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Why did he choose so many non-english speaking settings? It's just weird to hear god-tier english language spoken bits in Denmark and Italy.

>> No.11957584

Honor the source material
Make the plays more exotic
Italy was known to have devious/sophisticated people
Too political to set in England (besides the English history plays)

>> No.11957621

His audience was English, the vast majority of them would never leave their county, let alone country, so the locations are exotic and new to them.

>> No.11957630

>>11957584
Poetry is meant to rhyme and have metre dude

>> No.11957753

He made plays for the masses. The only way they could experience the world through plays.

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11957869

he knew that angl*s made for the worst subjects of a play

>> No.11957884

He translated from the Danish.

>> No.11957896

Foreign settings are more fun and interesting but he still needed his audiences to understand

>> No.11959129

>>11957621
Yea, but how much did he actually know about those places?

>> No.11960450

>>11957869
anglos are too individualistic to use in a story ya

>> No.11960614

>>11957630
wut

>> No.11960625

>>11957630
it's a list not a poem

>> No.11961780

Early modern English censors were insane, dude. They hated the playwrights enough, taking swings at aristocrats above them would never get by without a few drops of "lol Italians" or otherwise being clearly not threatening. Also no reason to fuck with that for adaptations.

>> No.11961782

>tfw Portugal was united with Castille during Shakespeare's age, and Castille was England's enemy then, which means no references to Portugal in Shakespeare plays
>tfw Portugal was good allies with England in literally any other time at all
Feels really bad desu

>> No.11962812

>>11957896
How is a Denmark monarchy more interesting than a British one?

>> No.11962831

The plays were performed in the actual languages. The scripts we have are just the subtitles, some of which are fansubs.

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>>11957630
>Poetry is meant to rhyme and have metre dude

>> No.11962859

>>11962812
For one thing, he can write whatever he wants about it without getting clapped in irons.

>> No.11963650

>>11957869
based fellow *nglo hating poster

>> No.11963826

>>11957499
Lastly, consider Western tragedy; observe how the same feeling leads it to
prefer .. historical" material - meaning thereby not so much demonstrably
actual or even possible, but remote and crusted subjects. That which the Faustian
soul wanted, and must have, could not be expressed by any event of purely
momentary meaning, lacking in distance of time or place, or by a tragic art
of the Classical kind, or by a timeless myth. Our tragedies, consequently, are
tragedies of the past and of the future - the latter category, in which men yet
to be are shown as carriers of a Destiny, is represented in a certain sense by
"Faust," "Peer Gynt" and the "Gotterdammerung." But tragedies of the
present we have not, apart from the trivial social drama of the I9th Century.1
If Shakespeare wanted on occasion to express anything of importance in the
present, he at least removed the scene of it to some foreign land - Italy for
preference - in which he had never been, and German poets likewise take
England or France - always for the sake of getting rid of that nearness of time
and place which the Attic drama emphasized even in the case of a mythological
subject.

-my nigger Oswald Spengler