Infinite Jest feels

[Anonymous No.11952091]

tfw you'll never listen to a madame psychosis broadcast all comfy and cozy in your favourite angle of your room

[Anonymous No.11952160]

>>11952091
>madame psychosis
>cringe ulysses reference
burn this shit

[Anonymous No.11952441]

>>11952091
how was orin so fucking cool? I wish I was him

[Anonymous No.11952609]

>>11952441
After the PGOAT he only fucked trash desu

[Anonymous No.11952822]

we are all gately

[Anonymous No.11952823]

>>11952822
you wish

[Anonymous No.11952874]

>>11952160
huh?

[Anonymous No.11952882]

>>11952441
his mom molested him, anon

[Anonymous No.11952886]

>>11952160
what

[Anonymous No.11952999]

>>11952091

I just read the fight scene with Kevin Gately. AMA

[Anonymous No.11953021]

>>11952882
That's a leap

[Anonymous No.11953101]

>>11952999
Who took the gun?

[Anonymous No.11953175]

>>11953101
Lenz or the spooky goste

[Anonymous No.11953189]

>>11952882

I never got that impression.

[Anonymous No.11953210]

What was the thing about the beach at the very end. Did the nucks kill Gately?

[Anonymous No.11953217]

>>11953210
he overdosed

[Anonymous No.11953396]

tfw Orin kills Avril's dog while sky high on weed and Avril pretends to believe his made up story

[Anonymous No.11953430]

>you'll never attend ETA
>You'll never have conversations in the locker room with your friends after a tough practice
>You'll never get up to hijinks with Pemulis
It hurts bros

[Anonymous No.11953545]

>>11952874
>>11952886
Anon’s referring to Bloom and Molly talking about Metempsychosis (reincarnation of the soul) in the beginning of Ulysses. DFW is not exactly referencing Ulysses but it’s hard not to make the connection if you’ve read both.

[Anonymous No.11953587]

>>11953545
huh?

[Anonymous No.11953710]

>>11953545
Like because metempsychosis vaguely sounds like madame psychosis?
WOW GUYS

[Anonymous No.11953711]

>>11953021
>>11953189
>inexplicably attracted to single mothers with children
>talks mad shit about her both to Hal and Steeply
>Avril fucks John Wayne while he wears football equipment
>Avril's absurd allowances to him (>>11953396), implying she was/is compensating for her guilt over it
The book deals heavily with the idea of denial too (Erdedy's internalization of his marijuana addiction in the second chapter, Pemulis pretending to sleep while his dad fucks his brother, etc) so it follows that Hal and the rest of the Incandezas could be equally in denial about a dark part of the family history like that.
The whole book makes so many things ambiguous that arguments over what exactly happens outside of the text are kind of pointless, desu (and that's probably the point).

[Anonymous No.11953725]

>>11953210
Gately survives the crisis since in the first chapter (that is chronologically the last) Hal mentions him digging up his father's skull with Wayne. So clearly he left the hospital.

[Anonymous No.11953734]

>>11953711
>inexplicably attracted to single mothers with children
Hal describes this as being a phase of his
>talks mad shit about her both to Hal and Steeply
Also explained because he blames her for Himself’s death (Orin is Hamlet btw, not Hal)
>Avril fucks John Wayne while he wears football equipment
I’ll give you that
>Avril's absurd allowances to him (>>11953396 #), implying she was/is compensating for her guilt over it
Moms is described as being like that for all her kids

[Anonymous No.11953749]

>>11953210
That was his 'bottom' or lowest point as an addict

[Anonymous No.11953759]

>loved IJ, read it only oce and without having read pynchon
>been wanting to re-read IJ ever since I finished it
>just read V., Lot 49 and finished GR yesterday
>want to finally get to philosophy again (Aristotle)
>get a fucking urge to re-read IJ at multiple points of GR
FUCK. What do I do mates, do I go for the Entertainment or for the Serious Classic Philosophy?

[Anonymous No.11953772]

>>11953759
>What do I do mates, do I go for the Entertainment or for the Serious Classic Philosophy?
why not both

[Anonymous No.11953780]

*stares at you*

[Anonymous No.11953857]

>>11953772
always end up giving all the attention to one book

[Anonymous No.11953872]

>that part where Hal beats up the uggos trying to get Mario to join them

[Anonymous No.11954147]

>>11953189
>>11953021
It's like explicitly stated that they fuck towards the end

[Anonymous No.11954158]

>>11953872
when was this?

[Anonymous No.11954162]

>>11953545
Metempsychosis is a pretty prevalent term if you actually read

[Anonymous No.11954238]

>>11954147
A brief paragraph describing the fraternal bond between Hal and Mario. Don't remember where exactly.

[Anonymous No.11954251]

>>11954238
I meant to respond to>>11954158

Do you guys prefer the ETA parts or the Ennet house parts?

[Anonymous No.11954352]

>>11953734
Do you not understand how books work or something?

[Anonymous No.11954363]

>>11954251
Ennet House. I hate it when people talk about IJ as "a book about a tennis school." The book is primarily about addiction/obsession and difficulties in the pursuit of happiness; ETA shares in this, but Ennet House is more primary imo. Or at the very least it's more direct and honest about its relation to IJ's core themes, whereas ETA is surreptitious about it.

Calling it "a book about a tennis school" betrays the speaker's English degree ivory tower privilege, that they can only identify with anxiously preppy adolescents.

[Anonymous No.11954413]

The main IJ feel for me is an impression of how quickly and severely people break in a way that's totally senseless and absurd. Reminds me a lot of Dostoyevsky.

>>11954147
>they fuck
This is from an interview that's in the footnotes, right? I'm pretty sure it's an unreliable speaker - a lot of the other details from that interview don't add up.

[Anonymous No.11954692]

>>11952882
his mom was pretty hot so i consider it a win

[Anonymous No.11954781]

>>11953545
>tfw you realise you're retarded

shit bros :(

[Anonymous No.11954922]

>>11954781
it's okay if you haven't read ulysses yet, the correct order of the meme trilogy is reverse chronological

[Anonymous No.11955083]

>>11953210
that was flashing back to him bottoming out in the past right?

[Anonymous No.11955494]

>every drug in the book is extensively described in the footnotes
>Fackelmann gets some kind of liquid dropped into his eyes at the end before
>it's never explained what it is
w-what did they do to him, bros?

[Anonymous No.11955662]

>>11955494
It literally is explained though, just in the text. It’s an upper so he’ll get sober enough to feel the torture.

[Anonymous No.11955732]

>>11955662
Oh damn, i thought that was what they were injecting him with. I'll have to reread that last section

[Anonymous No.11956025]

>ywn go to boarding school
>ywn have intellectual conversations with your tennis bros and get sky-high afterwards
>ywn develop obsessive rituals before you blaze up
>ywn end up at a halfway house full of drug addicts and 12-step-ers
>ywn watch the entertainment
>ywn get high off opium with MIT/Harvard intellectuals as you discuss feminist film theory
>ywn fuck the PGOAT
>ywn fuck Avril
>ywn fuck Hal in his boipucci

literally why live

[Anonymous No.11956207]

>>11952091

[Anonymous No.11956208]

>>11955732
Oh shit I actually checked myself once you mentioned that and you’re 100% right, I guess I misremembered lol>>11956025

[Anonymous No.11956232]

>>11956025
One of those big wooden spoons, you know

[Anonymous No.11956247]

>>11953759
You know who you need to read next.

[Anonymous No.11956301]

i always get the feeling these threads are filled with people who have only read IJ and just hang out on /lit/ for some reason

[Anonymous No.11956312]

>>11953430
This. Reading the Hal chapters made me miss high school summers at the country club. That comradely paired with shared exhaustion.

[Anonymous No.11956314]

>>11956207
His hat looks kinda photoshopped

[Anonymous No.11956749]

>>11952091
>tfw you'll never be born the child of two loaded professor parents raking in more than 300k/year combined having millions in savings and never needing to worry about dinner, rent, or other concerns your entire life, have friends and a family, and you're so comfortable that you invent boogeymen to be upset about an inevitably kill yourself because "depression dude"

[Anonymous No.11956794]

only reddit will reply to the bait

[Anonymous No.11956830]

>>11956749
>that photo
>the original s o y b o y

[Anonymous No.11957224]

>>11956749
Basically, though you glossed over the severity of the depression, dude.

[Anonymous No.11957296]

>>11956301
>the neo-il/lit/erate cannot comprehend people actually discussing literature

[Anonymous No.11957320]

>>11957224
He didn't have depression, "dude".

[Anonymous No.11957329]

>>11956301
ive read IJ and a ton of fiction, but ive taken a break from fiction and been reading history, sociology, economic history, and philosophy in the last 2 years. im in grad school for econ and i feel like since im supposed to focus on one super specific thing, i dont have time to learn about other things that i find interesting (plus, knowing what sociology qts do gets them wet)

>tfw living sort of the literary lifestyle.
feels good man

[Anonymous No.11957334]

>>11957329
You seem low IQ.

[Anonymous No.11957345]

>>11957334
>oh no he called me low iq, im so butthurt
is that all you got, bub? enjoy your pathetic pseudo-flaneur neet life, sweetie

[Anonymous No.11957349]

>>11957345
Thanks for proving my point.

[Anonymous No.11957356]

>>11957349
cringe

[Anonymous No.11957482]

>>11957329
this is a bizarre response desu anon

[Anonymous No.11957542]

>>11957334
>believing in iq
low iq move

[Anonymous No.11957679]

>>11957482
just wanted to explain that i dont just come here to shitpost. i also read

[Anonymous No.11958256]

>>11957320
And just how do you figure that?

[Anonymous No.11958265]

>>11957329
>>11957345
>>11957679

[Anonymous No.11958305]

>>11956247
i've read all works published and not published by joyce. Giacomo joyce, pomes pennyeach, stephen hero, finn's hotel, and every year I re-read Ulysses and the Wake

[Anonymous No.11958796]

>>11958265