/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11942638]

what is the form of the meme? what makes a meme a meme? what's the difference between a meme and a funny picture?

[Anonymous No.11942669]

Memes require context and are funny because of said highly specific context, in which the requirements of the memes are fullfilled.

Funny pictures are not based on recognition of the format, and any humour derived from the context of the picture doesn't stem from the format.

Pic related, a meme

[Anonymous No.11942708]

>>11942669
comic strips in the newspaper are funny (or they're supposed to be) and they have context but they aren't memes

[Anonymous No.11942763]

>>11942669
Retard, memes have to be propagated by the people organically. That’s what makes them memes

[Anonymous No.11942772]

>>11942638
A meme is a picture of a cat with some funny text on it.

[Anonymous No.11942792]

Prior knowledge of the subject being joked about is a prerequisite for every joke, yes, but the specific format through which the joke is expressed is the part that makes it a meme. Comic strips in the newspaper don't make you laugh because they're comic strips

>>11942763
Your definition of a meme is the fact that people voluntarily spread it?

[Anonymous No.11942819]

>>11942792
I would add nonbiologically so you can’t meme me with STDs or genetics but yes pretty much

[Anonymous No.11942838]

>>11942772

[Anonymous No.11942839]

>>11942638
the meme is a byte

that is to say the meme as we know it is only applicable in a digital world

the meme is a byte, accumulating bytes as it spreads through the internet

memes are organic originated concepts quantified in bytes. once reflected through the mirror of the internet, it belongs to the nascent AI slowly being coalesced by the collective online contribution of humanity

[Anonymous No.11942860]

>>11942638
meme is life, literally. What a meme is, is anything that is seen, duplicated, and repeated. Its a meme learning how to drive on a highway. Its a meme enjoying the same things as someone else.

memes are everywhere. A funny picture becomes a meme when its passed around and invokes the same sentiment and feeling from one person to another.

[Anonymous No.11942872]

>>11942860
you're neglecting to consider its medium of transferal.

in antiquity memes did not exist, because the internet did not exist, because its supranormal method and speed of transferral did not exist. the world wide web did not underlie the world at that time

therefore to consider the meme is to consider people in relation to the internet

[Anonymous No.11942894]

>>11942638
A meme is a funny picture, or just something funny. A meme is a joke, and while there are obviously other meanings to the word, this is what is usually meant on the internet

[Anonymous No.11942906]

>>11942872
Explain sator squares faggot

[Anonymous No.11942916]

>>11942872
>in antiquity memes did not exist, because the internet did not exist,

[Anonymous No.11942919]

>an entire thread full of people who have never read Dawkins
Defining memetics is the one meaningful thing he ever did with his life and he ought to be required reading for anyone with a pirated copy of photoshop

[Anonymous No.11942925]

I thought one of the definitions of meme was that it was spread through generations.

[Anonymous No.11942926]

>>11942872
>memes are not present in newspaper, books, colloquial words

My friend, please. Use something more than the urban dictionary.

[Anonymous No.11942933]

>>11942638
Kek saved. That's a funny ass image.

[Anonymous No.11942940]

>>11942638
>hard Rs
Excuse me but we prefer to be called philosophas

[Anonymous No.11942960]

>>11942919
we aren't talking about those memes, we're talking about internet memes. so his work might be helpful but his definition is too broad so we still need to narrow it down

[Anonymous No.11942967]

>>11942919
Etymology is not what defines a word, usage is.

[Anonymous No.11942968]

>>11942916
>>11942926
>>11942906

memes can describe archtypes but archetype != meme

"meme" is what happens when you input a concept through the machine

in antiquity for something to be a meme it had to pass through the crucible of history, of cultural resistance, of fundamentalism, traditionalism, ancestral boundary, etc.

it is the very existence of the internet that made "meme" possible

[Anonymous No.11942976]

>>11942967
how did we define what defines a word? was that also by usage?

[Anonymous No.11942978]

>>11942968
I thought the snail pic was a good example, it didn't have to fight any of that, a bunch of monks just found it hysterical and kept drawing random snail encounters

[Anonymous No.11942984]

>>11942976
No, that was linguistics anon

[Anonymous No.11943000]

>>11942968
keep on trollin friend. Internet is in itself a meme. Memes exist in the physical world. Its literally what composes a military "psyop". meme has existed for as long as man has lived. Stop being an intellectual and get some sense.

[Anonymous No.11943047]

>>11943000
1 i'm not trolling anyone
2 everything in this realm is physical
3 funny that you mention a psy op without even realizing that the internet is in fact the theater of the information war, all other media pales in comparison. my problem is not that i am an intellectual, your problem is that you cannot think hard enough to consider the phenomenon

[Anonymous No.11943070]

>>11942968
Not really, you could consider Killroy a 'meme', for example.

[Anonymous No.11943072]

>>11943047
>the internet is psysical

the internet is an extension of mans consciousness and completely NON physical. you are too smart for your own good.

and then the thread died.

[Anonymous No.11944293]

>>11942933
It's all yours, my friend

[Anonymous No.11944327]

>>11942638
for instance, your picture is neither funny nor a meme

[Anonymous No.11944345]

>>11942838
Kek

[Anonymous No.11944353]

>>11942968
Just imagine being this much of a spastic sperg

[Anonymous No.11944388]

>>11942638
Your "funny" picture is something like a cross section of a meme: representative of, but not itself the idea behind it. Simple emotions slapped in front of moderately related pictures is just the kornheiser thing mutated slightly. The repeated making of pictures such as this is the true meme, and the picture itself is step on the staircase to contextless unthought: the natural endpoint of memetics

[Anonymous No.11944604]

>>11942838

[Anonymous No.11944696]

>>11942838
nice

[Anonymous No.11944698]

>>11942919
>meme: exists
>virgin niggas:

[Anonymous No.11944716]

4chan: *exists*
incel niggas:

[Anonymous No.11944903]

>>11944353
It's the reason for this thread existing, because of every out of touch nigga calling everyting a meme in order to look hip and trandy

[Anonymous No.11944915]

Does meme come from the Greek "Mimêsis" (representation)? If it does, and from what I think, memes are representations of various, but specific things. Sometimes the things being represented originally are funny and other times they are not, but I think the representation itself, the meme, is supposed to be on some level funny, whether through irony, hyperbole, absurdity, a mix, etc. The things we call memes are not just jokes, but those singled out things that are parodied and connected to other things. The brainlet meme for instance is used to represent someone that the poster is calling dumb, and can even be themselves, and is derived from the wojak meme, which is used in various ways, some of which is self-representation.

[Anonymous No.11945116]

Everything manmade is a meme

[Anonymous No.11945165]

>>11944698
oh you!

[Anonymous No.11945308]

can anyone do a lense flare effect for the eyes of the nazi soldiers, and maybe also warp the image a bit. have meme idea