/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.11942162]

TROPES EDITION
>Which tropes can't you get enough of and which tropes would you like to see dead and forgotten?

Monthly Reading for October: Sword in the Storm (The Rigante, #1) by David Gemmell

FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
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Previously:
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[Anonymous No.11942177]

First for mormon-fag is the G.O.A.T writer.

[Anonymous No.11942182]

>>11942162
Let's start the thread properly.

>>11942177
Oh no, too late.

[Anonymous No.11942221]

>>11942177
sanderson exists in a superposition of based mormon and fucking garbage reddit writer

[Anonymous No.11942224]

Urth of the New Sun is pure autism. What was Wolfe thinking?

[Anonymous No.11942247]

>>11942224
Probably not about his work becoming the ultimate pleb filter. That was an unintended consequence.

[Anonymous No.11942260]

What are some good, shorter scifi novels?

[Anonymous No.11942271]

>>11942162
Give me some guides on creating side characters with depth/distinction (semi-serious). Also big racks in white tank tops are an undisputed classic

[Anonymous No.11942281]

>>11942271
Anon you have to jerk off before you start writing.
Or posting here.

[Anonymous No.11942288]

[Anonymous No.11942314]

Any fantasy about court intrigue that isn't written by a young woman about a young woman with two guys that love her?

[Anonymous No.11942316]

I'm shocked at how good/bad Sanderson is. I've been forcing myself through Way of Kings because I loved Wheel of Time and heard it was similar.

It's only similar because it's long and padded out for seemingly no reason. The world building is put to the forefront, but even more than that, character building is somehow even larger than that. Personality types and character histories that could be explained easily in a chapter are given, unironically, about 100 pages to be shown, to ensure they're entirely described. I'm currently on page 500, halfway through, and unlike the later Wheel of Time books, where I had a fully invested interest because I had been reading for years and had a chance to like the characters and understand the world, I just feel like Sanderson is throwing it all up front and saying: "the plot can wait, check out this world" for 500 pages. His characters are all fucking depressed too, hopping between them is like jumping between uncomfortable mental disorders. The development they get seems to just be trying to rationalize to the reader why they're allowed to be depressed and moping.

Yet at the same time I can't say he's a bad writer, because the prose is at least easily digestible and a step above your average juvenile, on-the-nose dribble that can get published today.
At least that's what I've been convincing myself because I bought the first three hardcovers on release and continually pushed them off, assuming I would enjoy them. And now I'm forcing myself through them because I already spent the money.

[Anonymous No.11942322]

im mad
im mad about literature

[Anonymous No.11942324]

>>11942314
Mistborn

[Anonymous No.11942329]

Can someone remind me the sites to use for pirated books?

[Anonymous No.11942339]

>>11942316
>I already spent the money
There's your problem right there.

>>11942329
>sites to use for pirated books
mobilism.org, b-ok.org, libgen.io
mobilism is the best for sff.

[Anonymous No.11942344]

>>11942314
Hild

[Anonymous No.11942349]

>>11942339
Ohh, it was in the outer /lit/ sticky. No wonder I couldn't see where it was written. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.11942360]

>>11942260
any PKD

[Anonymous No.11942362]

>>11942316
>loves wheel of time
>complains something else is padded out for seemingly no reason

[Anonymous No.11942373]

>>11942224
The first half of Urth is really bad. The second half of Urth was the emotional highlight of the series for me. I still rate it highly, although everything on the spaceship sucks.

[Anonymous No.11942375]

>>11942339
I don't know what you're quoting but thank you for the links.

[Anonymous No.11942378]

>>11942362
He called that out as a similarity in literally the second sentence of his post

[Anonymous No.11942391]

>>11942344

[Anonymous No.11942412]

>>11942260
Planetarian

[Anonymous No.11942457]

what is your top of the head recommendation for a contemporary (late 20th, early 21th century) scifi novel (with an emphasis on technology, cyberpunk, internet etc.) that you would consider as really great literature? thank you so much!

[Anonymous No.11942470]

>>11942457
The Windup Girl by Bacigalupi was surprisingly enjoyable. Lots of focus on low-technology bioengineering with a very unique setting. I honk one review I saw described it as “steampunk without steam”. It’s been a few years since I read it and I still remember a few characters and scenes vividly, which isn’t usually the case with novels I read purely for entertainment.

[Anonymous No.11942491]

>>11942457
>you would consider as really great literature
There is very little sci-fi/fantasy at all that fits this. "Great literature" is shit like Paradise Lost. You're going to be hard pressed to find that in a genre ruled by publishers, and confining your search to recent times isn't helping. Looking for "great literature" in the hackneyed cyberpunk setting, which was basically built as a way to reskin hackneyed noir schlock, is really going to hamstring it.

[Anonymous No.11942493]

>>11942457
Probably Three Body Problem.

[Anonymous No.11942520]

Should my King Arthur stand-in fight a dragon or a chimera kind of thing in the first chapter of what I'm going to do for NaNoWriMo? I feel like the cat-beast kind of thing is less hackish for some reason, but people do love their fucking dragons, and it doesn't really matter to me either way. It's supposed to be a cunning but unwise beast/dragon queen from another (lower) world.

[Anonymous No.11942531]

>>11942520
He should interrupt a fight between a dragon and chimera then slay them both.

[Anonymous No.11942602]

>>11942520
He should fight a cyclops, a female cyclops is even better. Since it's a humanoid enemy and possibly fighting with a weapon you can show off Arthur's prowess with a blade. After he defeats and kills him/her maybe he makes enemies of that cyclops' kin from that underworld and he has to keep fending off cyclops assassins who want an eye for an eye.

[Anonymous No.11942666]

>>11942602
He's going to fight multiple mythological creatures. He's a bounty hunter for those sorts of things, and while that's not really the extent of the story I want to tell, it's going to be the means of exposition for the story. So there'll be a cyclops eventually. I'll even give it tits, just for you.

>>11942531
I have a pretty clear idea of how I want the first chapter to go; it's just the shape of the character I don't know yet.

[Anonymous No.11942700]

>>11942520
what if he fucked the dragon

[Anonymous No.11942715]

>>11942471
yes.
's = possessive. "Anon's post got three replies."
or
's = contraction of "is". "It's a good book."

There might be others I'm forgetting about but these are the most common. Plurals don't have apostrophe S.

[Anonymous No.11942738]

>>11942700
Well, someone did before the story started, but it's only implied. I'm a terrible furry fucker, but not so explicitly for the November challenge.

[Anonymous No.11942861]

>>11942520
>>11942738
You should collab with the bunnyfag and have King Arthur fuckfight a rabbit

[Anonymous No.11942871]

>>11942457
>contemporary scifi
>really great literature
None. I say this as someone that loves cyberpunk. The closest you'd get would be Snow Crash because it's satire, which almost no one here seems to understand. Anons think Stephenson is playing it straight and being 3edgy5u when he's really parodying so many parts of society. ... But it's not Candide.

[Anonymous No.11942887]

>>11942871
Shit writing is still shit writing even if you do it ironically

[Anonymous No.11942893]

>>11942493
Man, I loved TBP despite the shit characters and the awful writing (I assume the latter is due to translation). Would love to read more decent Asian sff

[Anonymous No.11942952]

>>11942316
I've heard these complaints many times which makes me hesitate about starting that series. Anything you like or would recommend, apart from Wheel of Time?

[Anonymous No.11942990]

>>11942457
I honestly enjoyed Neuromancer even though it's probably baby's first cyberpunk novel. It was less whiplash than Mona Lisa overdrive with it's three storylines that worked next to each other and it allowed me to focus on the main character more.
I loved that it pretty much cemented what the setting was for a cyberpunk novel together Phillip k dicks novels in the subgenre.

[Anonymous No.11943011]

>>11942861
I'd be down to be his editor or co-author or whatever, honestly. He's good at making a compelling story. And overgrown anthro rabbits are very good.

[Anonymous No.11943032]

>>11942990
Neuromancer is still the best of cyberpunk.

[Anonymous No.11943054]

>>11942952
Malazan had a similar epic scope, so that's one I'd recommend trying. The Broken Empire trilogy, despite how it's shamed here, is fairly well-written if you like edgy stuff, where a teenage prince runs away and explores a nuked post apocalyptic world with a band of edgy characters. The Godspeaker trilogy is another good one, with two continents ruled by two different types of religious zealots being developed in book one and two respectively, then the third and final book having them clash.

[Anonymous No.11943090]

Now this the face of a talented author.

[Anonymous No.11943096]

What are some good militart sci-fi books? Don't say Forever War because I already finished it.

[Anonymous No.11943121]

>>11943090
>more attractive
>better prose
>much higher sales
>harder working and more prolific

Why are YA authors so much more accomplished in every way than ""adult"" fantasy authors who write one sentence every month then eat/con themselves into an early grave?

[Anonymous No.11943124]

>>11943096
Starship Troopers
Armor
Blindsight

[Anonymous No.11943168]

>>11943124
>Blindsight
I wish posters like you would stop posting top ten's from io9.

[Anonymous No.11943177]

>>11942952
Not that anon but I strongly dislike Stormlight Archives and like WoT despite all it's flaws.

If you're looking for works similar to WoT, as in coming of age, chosen one and prophecy tropes in a high/epic fantasy setting, I would recommend
>Inda quartet
>Crimson Queen series (unf)
>Ember Blade (unf) (Tigana meets Wot)
>Licanius (unf) I disliked this one but a lot of people who liked WoT seem to love it and it does bear similarities to WoT
>Memory Sorrow Thorn
>Dune (sci-fi)
>Faithful and the Fallen
>Riftwar
>Belgariad

[Anonymous No.11943178]

Is there even a single good new author? Is SFF dead?

[Anonymous No.11943180]

>>11943178
See >>11942177

[Anonymous No.11943226]

>>11942893
I just finished the first story in Liu Crixin's The Wandering Earth short story collection. The characters are not amazing (they might just feel worse than those in TBP because of the short story format) and the social issues he try to deal with felt a little rushed but overall the idea and execution was quite good.

There's also Invisible Planets, a collection of contemporary Chinese sci-fi translated by Ken Liu. I have not read it yet but it looks promising.

[Anonymous No.11943227]

>>11943178
There are a ton of excellent new authors. The problem is that not a lot of /sffg actually reads, they prefer to meme and shitpost.
Oh and fantasy doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.11943249]

>>11943178
I read a Daryl Gregory book that was good - Afterparty.
Night Circus was really good but I doubt many Anons would like it.

But yeah I'm mostly reading or rereading older stuff. I mean we have decades of books. Just because something's newer doesn't mean it's automatically better.

[Anonymous No.11943265]

>>11943227
Oh we read, but admittedly this thread is not the most informed when it comes to newer stuff. I'm trying to read some newer stuff but it's hard to prioritize new, unknown stuff over discovering new dinosaurs. I'll try to nominate something new for the next monthly reading.

[Anonymous No.11943276]

>>11943178
Just you wait till I release my novel anon, it'll blow your socks off.

[Anonymous No.11943287]

https://www.strawpoll.me/16659820
https://www.strawpoll.me/16659820
https://www.strawpoll.me/16659820

I'm curious, pls no shaming the yes voters even if you're a no voter, thanks

[Anonymous No.11943298]

>>11943178

It's hard to make something unique these days. I feel everything follows the same format. Last book I felt was some-what unique was Priest of Bones, but that was basically Peaky blinders meets fantasy.

>>11943227
>There are a ton of excellent new authors

Any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.11943299]

>>11943287
i don't even know what kkc is

[Anonymous No.11943308]

>>11943287
>KCC
Picking the only plausible candidate from Wikipedia's list of abbreviations, I assume you're asking about Kingkiller Chronicle?

[Anonymous No.11943315]

>>11943287
I mean i thought the first book was decent but the second was a steaming pile of shit so I guess I'm tilting toward a no?

[Anonymous No.11943346]

>>11943315
the second one, excluding the adem part, was a lot better than the first

[Anonymous No.11943362]

>>11943346
Nonsense, the neck beard wish fulfillment sex-a-thon was the worst thing I've ever read in any book.

[Anonymous No.11943370]

>>11943362
fuck i forgot about that too.
I guess my mind protected me from large parts of the second book, because all I remember from it is the university shenanigans and the maer's court. those are fucking comfy.

[Anonymous No.11943391]

What would your thoughts be on a world similar to Irish mythology? Using the same sort of character archtypes and worldbuilding (different migrations reflecting the different races ie one would be similar to the Nemedians another to the Milesians) and having champions duel ala the Táin?
Just started reading it. Pretty interesting stuff especially their idea of honour in the stories.

[Anonymous No.11943475]

>>11943265
While I have not been involved in monthly readings here are some new novels you could take a look at:

Station Eleven by Emily Mandel, a post-apocalyptic novel about a wandering troupe of actors and other artists and their interactions with the pockets of survivors of the global epidemic.

Cold Skin by Alberto Sanchez Pinol, which recently had a film adaptation. Think of it as a study of human nature under literally inhuman conditions.

The Bloodsounder's Arc by Jeff Salyards, a well written, tight as a fish pussy, focused dark fantasy without hundreds of pages of characterization or world building or other gay shit. The author stays clear away from world shattering events and the usual fantasy padding. The novels are not about Robin Hood but more about hoods robbin'.

Germline by T.C. McCarthy, a well written proper military sci-fi, hard on science and hard on characters. The best way I would describe this is Dispatches by Michael Herr. Same journalist protag, different future battlefield, same human lunacy and violence.

Crooked by Austin Grossman, a very nice novel about Richard Nixon battling Lovecraftian monstrosities (yeah boy!).

[Anonymous No.11943494]

>>11943121
PB is antifa faggot

[Anonymous No.11943515]

>>11943475
>>11942281
>>11942182
Can you stop posting traps?
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/b/
>>>/cm/

[Anonymous No.11943601]

>>11943515
I don't know. Maybe if you ask me nicely?

[Anonymous No.11943609]

>>11943494
Antifa is good actually

[Anonymous No.11943621]

>>11942224
Apparently his editor convinced him to write it because BotNS didn't make enough sense to plebs.

[Anonymous No.11943658]

>>11943090
If my printer was working I would make a tribute

[Anonymous No.11943664]

How does this series rate? I feel like most positive reviews are low iq idiots who’s opinion can’t be trusted

[Anonymous No.11943666]

>>11943299
It's a chicken joint

[Anonymous No.11943672]

>>11942457
I'm not going to take "great literature" too seriously -- more like "has some legitimate literary pretensions" OK:

>The Golden Age by John C. Wright
>The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson (last 1/3 of the book drops the ball)
>The Windup Girl by Paulo Baciagalupi
>Eden: Endless World (warning: manga)
>Axiomatic by Greg Egan (anthology)
>A Fire Upon the Deep/A Deepness in the Sky by Vernor Vinge (more space, less cyberpunk but I think it's a fit)

[Anonymous No.11943673]

>>11943609
kys subhuman commie

[Anonymous No.11943678]

>>11942520
Call it a dragon but make clear it's some weird chimera-like creature.

[Anonymous No.11943684]

>>11943168
Ignore them, blindsight is baby’s first attempt at philosophy in their fiction

[Anonymous No.11943705]

>>11943178
China Mieville manages to write good things even if not everything he writes is good. I've given up on John C. Wright ever writing anything even as good as Count to a Trillion again. Ted Chiang is still writing his one short story ever 3 years. Jemisin's Fifth Season trilogy is overpraised however it does show notable improvement over her earlier work.

As far as truly new authors I have no idea. Amazon publishing means the overwhelming majority of new authors are producing schlock based on a tight feedback loop. I've got Travis Corcoran's Powers of the Earth on my list but haven't read it.

[Anonymous No.11943746]

>>11943673
Topkek. I'm staying right here. Enjoy your seething.

[Anonymous No.11943758]

>>11943746
No the other guy is right, kill yourself

[Anonymous No.11943776]

>>11943664
Someone I know irl gave it 4/5 and the premise sounds good so it's on my list.

[Anonymous No.11943785]

>>11943758
>So much buttflusteredness

[Anonymous No.11943809]

>>11943609
>>11943673
>>11943746
>>11943758
>>11943785
>Taking sides and not being an enlightened centrist in 2018.

Do kindly end your worthless selves and save the oxygen.

[Anonymous No.11943954]

>>11943809
based as all hell

[Anonymous No.11943961]

>>11943664
I read Vicious and I was extremely let-down. It starts off fast, interesting and well-written, leaving things mysterious, but then it begins to get bogged down in the specific history of things, removing all the mysticism and revealing how lame things are, and the fast-paced plot just keeps slowing down and making less sense. Then the ending itself made me actually angry because it closed none of the plotlines, and nothing had really changed since the start of the book. So needless to say, I'm hesitant to recommend anything she had written, in fear her other books are just as poorly placed and planned.

[Anonymous No.11943973]

>>11943954
>21s

[Anonymous No.11944004]

wowwwww -_-

[Anonymous No.11944008]

>>11942177
He's a moro... I mean mormon?

[Anonymous No.11944020]

>>11943090
Never heard of her.
Is she at pornhub?

[Anonymous No.11944025]

>>11943954
>completely unsurprised that he's a lard ass

[Anonymous No.11944035]

>>11943121
Because writing YA is like painting by numbers.

[Anonymous No.11944097]

>>11944020
No, she's not capable of producing anything of value.

[Anonymous No.11944151]

Read this and loved it, is book 2 any good?
The blurb indicates it involves completely different protagonists, so I'm not sure if I should pick it up.

[Anonymous No.11944207]

>>11943090
I love how the book has this big sticker saying "signed copy" on the cover.

If you manage to find an unsigned copy, it'll be worth a fortune.

[Anonymous No.11944320]

>>11943664
It's a good series (and it is about 4/5 like another anon said) but the ending of the second book is a fuck you tier ;_;7 Goodnight sweet prince

Just don't read the Shades series, the third book of that one is like an even shittier version of Fire Emblem Awakening.

[Anonymous No.11944331]

>>11943664
*
Fixed. Shades is absolute shite tier AVOID AT ALL COSTS, the Vicious books are good tier.

[Anonymous No.11944372]

What makes a SFF book for you, anons?

Is it the prose? The plot? The character arcs? The world?
Does it need to be high concept? Does it have to be allegorical? Do you look for specific themes?

[Anonymous No.11944438]

Gonna write a comedic S&S story about a cult that worships an evil frog god at war with a cult that worships an evil worm god simply based on the fact that frogs eat worms.

[Anonymous No.11944452]

>>11944438
Is that the entirety of the conflict?
Are there focus characters? Do they have an arc?

[Anonymous No.11944468]

>>11944438

I'm going to write a sci-fi dystopian novel set in a far, far future where mosqitos have evolved to the point where they have overtaken humanity and are the new inheritors of the Earth.

[Anonymous No.11944470]

>>11944452
>character arcs in a short comedic story about two evil cults trying to kill one another
Christ Almighty....

[Anonymous No.11944476]

>>11944468
So it's about the jews.

[Anonymous No.11944481]

>>11944372
>What makes a SFF book for you, anons?
Catgirls :3
Failing that, I enjoy thought experiments that extrapolate out societal effects. Favorite themes include political intrigue and whatever you'd call Robinson Crusoe's. I'm fairly tolerant of prose above the sub-human level, but detest contemporary references.

[Anonymous No.11944486]

>>11944470
Stories without arcs are gay

[Anonymous No.11944487]

>>11944372
Mostly I try to take what's on offer. It could be any of the things you listed, then I'll try to read for that and not let the flaws get to me. There are some things I just can't stand, though, like angry moralizing, or stories that don't end. But usually if the author brings anything to the table I can enjoy it for that.

[Anonymous No.11944489]

>>11944486
>wanting character arcs in a short comedic story
Sweet Allah....

[Anonymous No.11944494]

>>11944489
>comedy's don't need arcs
>short stories don't need arcs

[Anonymous No.11944506]

>>11944494
CHARACTER arcs, anon. Only a retard thinks every single story needs character arcs. Hint: they don't. Especially in a short, comedic story

[Anonymous No.11944518]

>>11944506
You got any arcs then in your Pepe fanfiction, Hemingway?

[Anonymous No.11944521]

>>11944518
Why are you being such an NPC, anon?

[Anonymous No.11944530]

>>11944521
Give me something of substance. You do have something to say, surely.

[Anonymous No.11944536]

>>11944530
Anyone who thinks a short comedic story about two evil cults trying to kill each other needs CHARACTER ARCS knows nothing of substance. You should stick to reading Sanderson.

[Anonymous No.11944539]

On the subject of Catgirls who actually invented them? I know they aren't exclusive solely to anime and manga since a lot of sci-fi beforehand has used them but I want to say Frank Herbert maybe?

[Anonymous No.11944544]

>>11944536
>you got any arcs
>ANY arcs

So, do you? You're the one who keeps focusing on character arcs anon.
Do you even have anything to say?

[Anonymous No.11944556]

OH NO NO NO NONONO

[Anonymous No.11944558]

>>11944539
Egypt.

[Anonymous No.11944570]

>>11942457
Find Gaskun. Ask him for some of his space opera mess.

[Anonymous No.11944571]

>>11944539
>invented animal people

[Anonymous No.11944583]

>>11944372
Let’s be honest, there’s barely any sci fi/fantasy writers with great prose

[Anonymous No.11944592]

>>11944476
He said mosquitoes not cockroaches

[Anonymous No.11944602]

>>11944583
Seems like prose gets in the way of the Science Fiction and the Fantasy.
I don't rub my swollen cockmeat on the artisanal flow of the English language when I read a space opera. I want to shoot my wad on the celestial face of cosmic spectacle.

[Anonymous No.11944614]

>>11944556
He’s not wrong though

[Anonymous No.11944621]

>>11944539
Animal-people are present in a lot of mythologies. The Egyptians of course had Bast (pic related, female ofc).

However, ground zero for modern, anglophone catgirls are Cordwainer Smith, particularly his short story "The Ballad of Lost C'Mell".

[Anonymous No.11944707]

>>11942316
the kaladin and dalinar chapters are great. his story is why i keep reading. but shallan is insufferable. he writes her like she's supposed to be this witty and clever girl making fun of all the dumb men around her but oh shes also so naive and she needs a strong woman to teach her, but she's just annoying and cringey.
for example this is some of the shit she says. she's meeting with a person who asks her "what are you up to?" and she says "five foot six. i think thats all ill ever be up to"

[Anonymous No.11944742]

>>11944372
prose
engaging character

i don't see too many engaging worlds 2bh so they usually aren't a draw but some i've loved. i don't care about specific concepts, allegories, or themes. what's important is if the author has a strong vision.

>>11944583
true

>>11944602
true but only because most authors who try to get fancy with their prose aren't actually good at it

[Anonymous No.11944756]

>>11944707
Shallan thinks she's witty, everyone else realizes how autistic she is. Look at any chapter featuring Shallan when she's not the POV character. Everyone thinks she's retarded.

[Anonymous No.11944982]

>>11944707
I agree 100%.
She thinks she's so smart and witty but nothing she says is actually funny.
I guess that's a fault with the author Sanderson more than anything.

[Anonymous No.11944997]

>>11944982
It's on purpose.
She's not funny to anyone but herself.

[Anonymous No.11944998]

>>11944707
>>11944756
It seems like she's written the way she is to give the tumblr audience someone to identify with. le witty independent girl.

Also pls rec me some good fantasy that doesn't have that. finished amber which i quite enjoyed and somehow doesn't get mentioned that often.

[Anonymous No.11945015]

>>11944998
She's written the way she is because her shit is all about illusions.
Her mind is broken because she fucking murdered her parents and has suppressed her memories and emotions so much it literally broke her soul and shattered her mind into different personalities.
She's to be pitied for being a weak-willed turbofaggot, not idolized in any way by anyone. Everyone in the narrative hates her and she knows it. She hates herself and I hate her too.

Fucking level 1 readers I swear to Allah.

[Anonymous No.11945035]

>>11944998
I’m black. If I ever actually write a novel, am I too going to be forced to pander to hyper-chromosomal idiots? Or will I just get to write whatever I want and get my free nebula award because I’m the black guy?

[Anonymous No.11945041]

>>11945035
The latter, but the former helps a ton.

[Anonymous No.11945127]

>>11945035
If you have the wrong opinions you aren't really black.

[Anonymous No.11945321]

>>11945127
They gonna Kanye my ass aren’t they?

[Anonymous No.11945328]

>>11945321
They gonna give you bipolar disorder and a learning disability?

[Anonymous No.11945350]

>>11945321
>This is what happens when negroes who don't read books write books.

[Anonymous No.11945356]

>>11945328
>>11945350
Please leave, NPCs.

[Anonymous No.11945365]

>>11945356
awww, are you having a controversial thought?

[Anonymous No.11945369]

Give me a good space opera like Firefly

[Anonymous No.11945376]

>>11945369
Like Firefly in which way?
Comfy space western? ex-revolutionaries who lost the war? psychic, barefoot Summer Glau? smuggler chic?

[Anonymous No.11945391]

>>11945376
comfy space western with interesting characters who possess deep back stories and operate on the wrong side of the law.

[Anonymous No.11945455]

>>11945391
Not quite that, but fun

[Anonymous No.11945553]

>>11945391
Hyperion

[Anonymous No.11945589]

There's a new contender for the gayest cover of all time.

[Anonymous No.11945761]

>>11945589
Not as gay as my dick anon

[Anonymous No.11945770]

Any good First Contact stories in which the aliens aren't dickheads, and give us a nugget of amazing knowledge that alludes to a grander function of the universe?

[Anonymous No.11945775]

>>11945589
Is this series any good? Did he sell out and go all stronk womyn after red queens war?

[Anonymous No.11945792]

>>11942162
Is wheel of time worth it?

[Anonymous No.11945844]

I'm gay, but I don't want to write any romance into my story. How do I collect my Free Hugo(tm)? Just say on the bio section "btw im gay," or do I need to include something in the story?

[Anonymous No.11945846]

>>11945844
post on twitter and get a checkmark

[Anonymous No.11945857]

>>11945775
First book is decent, it's dark YA. I would describe it as Arya Stark going to Hogwarts to learn to be magic battle nun' Second book is trash though.

>>11945792
Really depends if you can tolerate overly descriptive prose, some people hate it and drop it, others don't mind it as much and just enjoy the story. Keep in mind book 1 is very LotR-esque and RJ wrote it that way on purpose to get published back in the day the tone changes significantly from book 2 onwards. I'd say read 2 or 3 books by then you'll know for sure if it's for you, ya it's a commitment but they're not all that bad and books 2-6 have some peak fantasy moments.

[Anonymous No.11945892]

>>11945857
>I would describe it as Arya Stark going to Hogwarts to learn to be magic battle nun'
Vomited out of my ass after reading that.

[Anonymous No.11946182]

>>11945892
Go to the vet

[Anonymous No.11946185]

>>11946182
racist

[Anonymous No.11946292]

Is Jack Vance better at writing Sci-fi or Fantasy?

[Anonymous No.11946325]

>>11945770
His Master's Voice kind of fits that description

[Anonymous No.11946405]

>>11945770
Have spacesuit?

[Anonymous No.11946495]

>>11940294
good news apparently. according to his facebook group hes got a prelimenary yes from amazon to come back to the platform, without a publisher. amazon is still holding out on the absolute final yes but supposedly before this year is over he should be back. and ha has written several sequels to his series and started two new series while this has been going down. also he admited to being greedy with the copyright stuff and promised to not do that again. he still denies his bookstuffing though. audiobooks are also still happening since they are seperate from ebooks on amazon.

[Anonymous No.11946500]

>>11946292
Both.

[Anonymous No.11946541]

I'm nearly finished writing a novel and I'm wondering if my premise is intriguing. It's a post apocalyptic setting (20 years after a mass extinction event wipes out most people and nature has reclaimed everything). There's quite a bit of cosmic horror and a big terrible monster that can warp reality and erase people form existence. The story itself is centered around a young girl living with her family. There's a coming of age element that I think grounds everything, but there's plenty of weird stuff too. I think I'll understand my themes better once it's finished, but overall it's pretty dark. Does this sound appealing? Also, does a 12 year old protagonist and the whole coming of age thing make this YA?

[Anonymous No.11946626]

I don't know if I've ever skimmed through as many pages as I have for this series (particularly this novel). And that includes all the skimming I did with Malazan which was originally in first place. Jesus Christ. So much of this series reads like Bakker is in love with the way he writes so he'll write page after page after page of absolutely nothing that doesn't move the story forward a bit; he just wants to write for the sake of it. YES I GET IT; THE GREAT ORDEAL IS GOING INSANE. I DON'T NEED CHAPTER AFTER CHAPTER AFTER CHAPTER EXPLAINING THIS.

[Anonymous No.11946720]

>>11942162
Recommend me something like Malazan or Hyperion lads.

[Anonymous No.11946767]

>>11943664
Not that good. Generic prose, generic characters, stupid action sequences. Guess the premise is somewhat alright.
It makes me laugh that I've seen countless people praise it for being feminist for having a stereotypical Strong Action Girl character which we've seem hundreds of already.

[Anonymous No.11946847]

>>11945589
I thought Chuck Tingle had a monopoly on those?

[Anonymous No.11946861]

>>11942162
>Which tropes can't you get enough of and which tropes would you like to see dead and forgotten?
>good
Not so much a trope for scifi and fantasy but the villain that becomes a companion in a story is always good.

It's good as well when a companion sees merit in the antagonists idea's and switches sides from the "good guys".
I always like it when the lines are so blurred as to which side is doing the good and which side is doing the evil.

Final battles that are less about the big weapons or magic or whatever mcguffin is used by the characters in the story and just resorting to being animals and beating eachother to death with their bare hands. It doesn't matter to me what is the main way people kill eachother in whatever storyline, the final battle should be about two broken individuals barely able to stand and just wanting the other dead.

>the bad
I guess this is more a thing for scifi but very humanoid aliens always were strange to me. If you're going to have aliens make them weird aliens, don't make them humans with invasive plastic surgery. Elves are fine with me though since it's just long ears.

[Anonymous No.11946873]

>>11942520
>It's supposed to be a cunning but unwise beast/dragon queen from another (lower) world.
Legend speaks of an abomination called La Creatura...

[Anonymous No.11946882]

>>11946626
>Read a long modern fantasy series
>Wtf why is nothing happening its just hundreds of pages of filler :(
Why are you surprised?

[Anonymous No.11946881]

>>11944481
Are the catgirls in your mind like the scifi equivalent of a cat from an expensive breed or more like bio upgrades someone could do to themselves.
>tfw I will never be a cute catgirl

[Anonymous No.11946925]

>>11943746
Are you a tranny? Most pinkos that post here are

[Anonymous No.11946927]

>>11943809

[Anonymous No.11946973]

>>11943096
spiral wars

[Anonymous No.11946985]

>>11945455
icarus hunt is great

[Anonymous No.11946992]

How do you like personal growth in your protagonists ?
I always enjoy it when he sees someone in a position that he used to be in and just notices how many things they do wrong when they try to catch/fight him.
Especially if it's a good guy gone villain/neutral and a new set of good guys go after him.

[Anonymous No.11947010]

>>11946992
i like personal growth the most. like for example a young mc makes rash choices without thinking them through or acts on impulse. after getting burned by said choices, he or she learns from that and grows as a person and in the future actually stops for a moment before making a stupid act.

[Anonymous No.11947018]

I'm about a third of the way through Elantris and it's kind of boring. The parts inside Elantris are interesting, but the politics outside are dull as can be. Does it get any better?

[Anonymous No.11947042]

>>11946882
I'm surprised that it managed to surpass Malazan for me. Though I probably skimmed through more pages overall in Malazan since the series is so much bigger. Definitely makes you appreciate efficient storytelling and unpretentious writers.

[Anonymous No.11947062]

>>11947010
>like for example a young mc makes rash choices without thinking them through or acts on impulse. after getting burned by said choices, he or she learns from that and grows as a person and in the future actually stops for a moment before making a stupid act.

This works well with a recurring villain in a story, the first time the hero rushes in and promptly gets his ass handed to him to within an inch of his life, the villain was much more experience at this point after all.

The second time it's more or less an equal battle after a long period of incredibly hard training and learning about his mistakes and to grow as a person, having lost someone and seeing it as their fault and learning to come to peace with this would be a good little story arc (maybe losing a love interest after a particulary tearjerking scene where they finally admit that they love eachother after travelling for years together).

And by the third time they meet the hero's growth was so much more than the villains growth that he actually becomes frightend of him, and what has become of him, not rushing in blindly anymore, not wasting time to think of a catchy name when he throws a punch like a child would do, every movement feels calculated and with purpose and that purpose is make him pay for what he's done over the course of the story.

At least this is how I envision it in the story I'm writing.

[Anonymous No.11947073]

>>11947018
it's sanderson so probably not
unless you consider le epic sanderson payoff at the end worth slogging through hundreds of pages of shit

[Anonymous No.11947107]

How do you guys prepare when you're going to write something fantasy or scifi related.
I usually clear my mind of other feelings and thoughts by listening to some music that is fitting to the scene I'm writing so I can get the feeling I want to portay inside myself.

[Anonymous No.11947109]

>>11941830
To the Unsong shill. What about the audiobook? When I search for unsong I get a webserial?

[Anonymous No.11947125]

>>11947042
>Definitely makes you appreciate efficient storytelling and unpretentious writers.
The entire Lord of the Rings is the length of one modern fantasy novel.

[Anonymous No.11947130]

>>11945775
Red Queen was shit.

>>11945589
>3rd book
>still haven't started (nor will start) the second

[Anonymous No.11947131]

Where do you guys download epubs? I don't have my pc for now and I'm quite chained to my smartphone.

[Anonymous No.11947142]

>>11947131
Mobilism

[Anonymous No.11947152]

>>11947142
>>11947131
Also libgen has epubs.

[Anonymous No.11947187]

I just realised something.
The movie avatar was the tipping point for litrpg. It was the precursor for Ready Player one (the book) to be accepted by mainstream.
>hook up to vr set
>control you avatar in an alien world and do things your normal body could not (even if paralyzed)
>go out and kill things without repercussions to your real body

[Anonymous No.11947203]

>>11943809
t. me, an intellectual

[Anonymous No.11947212]

>>11947187
Kind of, I can't recall anything else having vr type stuff in it too much, especially controlling another body.
Everything from Sword art online to Altered carbon has it as a main focus on the story.

Could this be the tipping point as to when things went to shit ?

[Anonymous No.11947268]

>If the drones become enlightened you'll have such a noble swarm
books for this feel?

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.11947308]

>>11946292
>>11946500
Vance excelled at conceiving plausible cultures based around some local phenomenon. His books are usually travelogues through a series of these settings. Using this structure, he could write either genre with ease.

[Anonymous No.11947416]

>>11947308
If only 4chanX was able to sync filter lists across devices.

[Anonymous No.11947426]

>>11947268
Maybe one of those books that prepare you for maternity?

[Anonymous No.11947494]

>>11947416
Make a server that has filter lists that updates for adblock and other apps, and have 4chanx pull your filter list from there.

[Anonymous No.11947636]

>>11946541
I don't think that a young protagonist automatically puts your book in the Ya section.

[Anonymous No.11947656]

What's up with authors thing to keep their works PG by avoiding swear words? I am talking of course about books that are not aimed at children, with obvious adult themes, but that for some reason the authors try to avoid cussing as if their lives depended on it.
>"Wussy wimp" said the serial killer as he rammed his baseball but up his victim's sphincter
>"God dang it" said the sailor as his boat crashed onto the rocks

[Anonymous No.11947711]

>>11944556
What's the problem here?

[Anonymous No.11947806]

>>11947656
I guess it's what the publishing company wants, maybe they know that they'll be able to market it to school libraries or school curriculim reading lists if there aren't too many swearwords.

[Anonymous No.11947946]

>>11947142
>>11947152
What are other sites for ebooks besides of libgen, bookz(or whatever they are called now), mobilism and hexchat?

[Anonymous No.11947976]

>>11947946
novanon and epubshelf are decent. mobilism is all you need though, it has the best sff collection and you can request books that you can't find.

[Anonymous No.11947978]

>>11945015
No, she's written like that because the Mormon author thinks being a smart aleck is the pinnacle of comedy, as is also shown in Mistborn, WoT, etc.
We ain't goldfish anon

[Anonymous No.11947985]

>>11946873
It's actually supposed to represent motherhood, not some /pol/ shit, though I suppose people will take it however they want to take it.

[Anonymous No.11947997]

>>11947978
His WoT writing geuinely pissed me off, for the first time in his life he had a decent plot to work with but he couldn't pass up the chance to fuck up all the characters, the fucking mong.
Wanted to stab his face for what he did to Mat. Went from a genuinely conflicted character whom you would laugh at for the trouble he got himself into to being a 2d generic nice guy who "banters" with people around him to produce comedy in Sanderson's hands. Fuck I hate him so much the mormon fucking piece of shit cunt.

[Anonymous No.11948023]

More readable than his yngling books. The abrupt drop of the invasion story after all the buildup and initially detailed tactics stuff was kinda jarring, but I think Dalmas tends to that.
>his soft penis as long as a wolf turd
>>11946881
I don't entirely understand your question. I speak of the femme felids.

[Anonymous No.11948085]

It's official

[Anonymous No.11948170]

>>11944372
For me it's anything that makes me think and translates into the real world. Musings on history, war, shit like that. And boy is it hard to find good fantasy that does that well

[Anonymous No.11948338]

>>11947978
>I didn't read Oathbringer
Opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.11948362]

>>11948085
I’ve lost all faith in humanity

[Anonymous No.11948373]

>>11948362
>some hack publishes some shit about another hack winning an award because she appealed to a bunch of hacks
>woe is me, art is dead
there have always been hacks, there will always be hacks, and they will generally be forgotten, save to the extent that some non-hack stoops to satirize them

[Anonymous No.11948380]

>>11948362
Cool story bro

[Anonymous No.11948385]

>>11946626
Bakker's got a really bad case of "20 years to write your first album, 6 months to write the next". I dread what the third "trilogy" is gonna look like.

[Anonymous No.11948387]

Give me a story about a morally grey mercenary who has a lighter shade of morally grey mercenary gf who he sometimes slaps but she stays with him because she only she can see the real him and only she can fix him.

[Anonymous No.11948405]

>>11948085
The tenure of Queens and their magistrates by good women it must be deposed. The covenant made can be voided at once, disanoint her and take her crown

[Anonymous No.11948413]

>>11948387
Throne of Glass unironically.

[Anonymous No.11948414]

I've finally read this after a lot of recs and it's alright. Seen it trashed here a few times but I don't get why. It's nothing revolutionary but as far as bromances and heist novels go this ones not bad at all and there is a serious dearth of good heist fantasy out there.
I read it partly in the ebook format and listened to the audiobook for the remainder when I was doing other stuff and I must say this one's an exception for me as I don't usually like audiobooks but whoever narrated this did a bloody good job. I might just revisit it in the future and listen to the full audiobook.

[Anonymous No.11948418]

>>11948405
Definition of a butter face, looking from afar she seems like a pretty blonde but a close up reveals otherwise.

[Anonymous No.11948421]

I've finally read this after a lot of recs and it's alright. Seen it trashed here a few times but I don't get why. It's nothing revolutionary but as far as bromances and heist novels go this ones not bad at all and there is a serious dearth of good heist fantasy out there.
I read it partly in the ebook format and listened to the audiobook for the remainder when I was doing other stuff and I must say this one's an exception for me as I don't usually like audiobooks but whoever narrated this did a bloody good job. I might just revisit it in the future and listen to the full audiobook.

[Anonymous No.11948429]

>>11948421
people mostly shit on the sequels. book 2 is alright if you're not averse to naval shit but book 3 is pretty bad

[Anonymous No.11948431]

Any books with lots of superpowered martial arts rather than faggy blade shit?

[Anonymous No.11948441]

>>11948405
>>11948418
Looks like Jennifer Lawrence's fat autistic twin.

[Anonymous No.11948456]

>>11948387
BotNS
Dorcas is just the side bitch/grandma

[Anonymous No.11948483]

You really need to read this

[Anonymous No.11948502]

>>11942316
The sad thing is that the Way of Kings is the only decent book among the three currently released books of the stormlight archive

[Anonymous No.11948521]

>>11944707
Sanderson must feel bad that everyone hates Shallan and Lift

[Anonymous No.11948531]

>>11948085
Never heard of her.

[Anonymous No.11948532]

>>11947978
I can't believe that some people like Sanderson Mat

[Anonymous No.11948538]

>>11948456
So is Severan his own grandpa?

[Anonymous No.11948542]

>>11948521
>mfw Sanderson actually thought AWESOMENESS was a good idea

[Anonymous No.11948593]

>>11948532
I can't believe that some people like Sanderson or Mat.*

[Anonymous No.11948601]

>>11948338
In-book explanations are trumped by real world ones for why characters are written a certain way if you ask me. For example it the justifications given for Esmenet being so thirsty for cocks feel pretty shallow in light of the realization that Bakker himself is a degenerate

[Anonymous No.11948614]

>>11948405
Jemisin is without a doubt a better writer than SJM.

[Anonymous No.11948620]

>>11948421
There's nothing wrong with it, just don't read the sequels.

[Anonymous No.11948622]

>>11948614
Better eater too

[Anonymous No.11948627]

>>11944997
the problem with this is that you still have to read through 4000 pages of that tripe
it's like rothfuss and his cuckold fiction. kvothe may or may not be exaggerating wildly but that still doesn't change that you have to read through it

[Anonymous No.11948633]

>>11946292
I read The Demon Princes and decided he was an amazing SF writer.
Then I read The Dying Earth and decided he was an amazing fantasy writer.
I couldn't choose, he handles both settings with finesse.

[Anonymous No.11948634]

>>11948622
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.11948637]

>>11948601
bullshit
everyone in the books thinks Shallan is a retard. She's obviously not meant to be understood as an actually funny character. Anybody who thinks Sanderson is trying to make her actually funny is just as retarded as Shallan.
She thinks shes funny—and nobody else does—because she lies to herself about everything. It's a defense mechanism for being a family-murdering weak-willed piece of shit. Pattern is a liespren FFS.
Shallan is afraid to confront her inner demons and thus puts up walls around any lucid moment she tries to have.

[Anonymous No.11948653]

>mfw I stumble into a Shallan discussion thread

[Anonymous No.11948661]

>>11948538
Bitch he might be

[Anonymous No.11948678]

>>11948661
Severian is Phillip J. Fry.

[Anonymous No.11948683]

>>11948678
Oh shit nigger, he even has a robot best friend

[Anonymous No.11948703]

>>11948637
>Anybody who thinks Sanderson is trying to make her funny is just as retarded as Shallan.
Sorry but no. There's times characters banter along with her or indicate that they find her jokes funny, and there's other character's like The Wit who use the same type of humor. You're reading Sanderson through some seriously rose-tinted glasses

[Anonymous No.11948712]

>>11948483
Seconding this. I read it years ago and still remember scenes and characters vividly. I guess Catling wrote a couple sequels since then; I really ought to give them a look.

[Anonymous No.11948752]

>>11948703
Adolin, because he wants to raw her puss and he has actual autism.
and who else?

[Anonymous No.11948996]

>>11948085
>gays and trannys in fantasy
Yassss queen indeed

[Anonymous No.11949029]

>>11948996
Too unrealistic for you?
It's not like humans don't have a long history of being sexual degenerates.

[Anonymous No.11949066]

>>11949029

[Anonymous No.11949096]

>>11949066
>yfw the Roman Emperor Elagabalus was trans and degenerate

[Anonymous No.11949106]

>>11949096
Oh no you're a tranny.

[Anonymous No.11949107]

>>11949096
Lies and Slander, Caligula was a good boy too.

[Anonymous No.11949116]

>>11949096
Literally nobody said anything that is whatever it is you're trying to argue against you stupid donkey.
You just seem like an overly insecure tranny desu.

[Anonymous No.11949200]

>>11948622
Maas is fat bro... she always has a fat girl angle shot going.

[Anonymous No.11949219]

>>11949200
If only one's body fat percentage was in some way correlated to one's quality of writing.
Look at GRRM.

[Anonymous No.11949442]

>>11949200
She's big boned

[Anonymous No.11949485]

>>11949200
>fat
She's American.

[Anonymous No.11949537]

Thoughts on Legend of Drizzt?

[Anonymous No.11949581]

>>11949537
You need to grow up?

[Anonymous No.11949585]

>>11949581
>grow up
NPC detected

[Anonymous No.11949608]

>>11949581
Never read it, but I’m at a thrift store and they have a few Salvatore books. Just looking to see if there’s any sort of general consensus.

[Anonymous No.11949622]

>>11949585
What does NPC mean?
Non-combatant Paper Carrier?
Never Page through a book Carelessly?
Never Picking up Cartoons?
Needlessly Pretending to Care?

[Anonymous No.11949630]

>>11949622
Nerf Player Characters

[Anonymous No.11949635]

>>11949622
Non player character. Learn to use google retard.

[Anonymous No.11949639]

>>11942457

Frankenstein in Baghdad by Ahmed Saadawi
The Sky is Yours by Chandler Klang Smith
Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace
Annihilation by Jeff Vandermeer
Embassytown by China Meiville

[Anonymous No.11949645]

>>11949635
Quest Giver detected

[Anonymous No.11949651]

>>11949585
Maybe also stop being a weeb?

>>11949608
Salvatore is firmly in the high school DnD phase category. A phase that has long passed. While there are quite a lot of immature posters here, I doubt you are that immature.

[Anonymous No.11949666]

>>11949651
>stop being a weeb
he said, on 4chan—the original english-language weeb site

[Anonymous No.11949667]

>>11949485
>the definition of the word fat means american
Checks out.

[Anonymous No.11949669]

>>11949537

Dark Elf trilogy is the only good thing Salvatore ever wrote. Icewind Dale and Cleric Quintet were boring, Legacy of the Drow and Paths of Darkness were outright shit and I haven't read anything since then.

[Anonymous No.11949681]

>>11949651
>>11949669
That’s about what I was expecting desu. Just walked out with copies of East of Eden and 20000 Leagues Under the Sea. Gonna try to hit up 1 or 2 more thrift shops before they close for the night.

[Anonymous No.11949684]

sff is infinitely better when influenced by anime

[Anonymous No.11949691]

>>11949666
It's time to move on grandpa.

[Anonymous No.11949704]

>>11949639
Infinite jest isn’t science fiction, and I immediately disregarded your opinion when you called annihilation a good book

[Anonymous No.11949707]

>>11949691
you're not my dad

[Anonymous No.11949709]

>>11949684
your opinion would be infinitely more valid if you weren't so desensitized to shit as a result of consuming it all your life.

[Anonymous No.11949723]

>>11949704

>a movie can kill people
>not science fiction

I bet you think The Handmaid's Tale is "speculative fiction" and that magical realism isn't just a fancy word for fantasy.

[Anonymous No.11949727]

>>11949707
What a horribly depressing thought.

[Anonymous No.11949729]

>>11949707
Yes I am, come sit on papa’s lap and look him deep in the eyes lovingly as he slides the full length of his throbbing tumultuous scepter inside you. Papa loves the way you feel in his arms, so soft and tiny; like a delicate flower that only blooms for him

[Anonymous No.11949746]

>>11949729
scepter is literally the most-trash euphemism for cockmeat there is.

[Anonymous No.11949764]

>>11949746
>t. pleb
In a nervous and slender-leaved mimosa grove at the back of their villa we found a perch on the ruins of a low stone wall. She trembled and twitched as I kissed the corner of her parted lips and the hot lobe of her ear. A cluster of stars palely glowed above us between the silhouettes of long thin leaves; that vibrant sky seemed as naked as she was under her light frock. I saw her face in the sky, strangely distinct, as if it emitted a faint radiance of its own. Her legs, her lovely live legs, were not too close together, and when my hand located what it sought, a dreamy and eerie expression, half-pleasure, half-pain, came over those childish features. She sat a little higher than I, and whenever in her solitary ecstasy she was led to kiss me, her head would bend with a sleepy, soft, drooping movement that was almost woeful, and her bare knees caught and compressed my wrist, and slackened again; and her quivering mouth, distorted by the acridity of some mysterious potion, with a sibilant intake of breath came near to my face. She would try to relieve the pain of love by first roughly rubbing her dry lips against mine; then my darling would draw away with a nervous toss of her hair, and then again come darkly near and let me feed on her open mouth, while with a generosity that was ready to offer her everything, my heart, my throat, my entrails, I gave her to hold in her awkward fist the scepter of my passion.

[Anonymous No.11949770]

>>11949764
Scepter is overused, and Lolita is shit

[Anonymous No.11949773]

>>11949770
I hate you, truly I do

[Anonymous No.11949780]

>>11949773
I don't think about you at all.

[Anonymous No.11949782]

>>11949770
I've never seen "scepter" used outside of Lolita and I read a ton of smut.

[Anonymous No.11949784]

>>11949645
kek

[Anonymous No.11949786]

>>11949727
It's okay anon I'm sure you'll be his dad someday.

[Anonymous No.11949793]

>>11949782
Calling someones (or even worse your) penis a scepter is the opposite of arousing.

>>11949786
I hope I'll do a better job at parenting.

[Anonymous No.11949796]

>>11949782
Not enough apparently.

[Anonymous No.11949926]

>>11942177
Finally, a cover that matches the book.

[Anonymous No.11949996]

So why haven't read the best fantasy book written in the last 10 years anon?

[Anonymous No.11950003]

So why haven't you read the best fantasy book written in the last 10 years anon?

[Anonymous No.11950039]

>>11950003
I am already reading the other best fantasy book - The Storm of Hammers.

[Anonymous No.11950078]

>>11950003
Title is gay

[Anonymous No.11950095]

>>11949793
It would seem you lack basic reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.11950128]

>>11950078
So's your dad's dick but you don't seem to mind gobbling that up.

[Anonymous No.11950142]

>>11950128
Weak

[Anonymous No.11950161]

>>11948483

Are there any good INNAWOODS SF&F?

I want that feeling of the wooded other, a place where man's laws fall short.

[Anonymous No.11950178]

>>11950161
It's not exactly SF/F, more historical fiction, but it's medieval and told from the point of view of a man who believes he's living in a world of old gods and magic. Difficult to start but once you get the fake-Old-English down it's a really enjoyable read.

[Anonymous No.11950182]

>>11950142
>title is gay

[Humberto No.11950218]

Hi, my name is Humberto, i wrote a sci fi novel, its in spanish but Im doing a popr translation by myself. I would like to share it with you to see if some of you like the chapter so I can either translate more or hire a profesional translator.

https://nerdcast.net/the-gamer-program-chapter-1-a-city-under-flames/

My novel is called El Programa GAMER (The GAMER Program), its available for purchase either in digital and paperback, right in Amazon store.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_13?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=el+programa+gamer&sprefix=el+programa+g%2Caps%2C235&crid=7JVEPLN19RL7

If some of you like it I will try a full translation of this trilogy of books.

[Anonymous No.11950271]

>>11950003
I read it years ago, it was great. The sequels (especially the third) was complete bed shitting.

[Anonymous No.11950276]

>>11950271
Yes, I like to pretend it's a stand alone. It was like a completely different person wrote the sequels.

[Anonymous No.11950287]

>>11950271
Also, he's starting another series with Vaelin(The MC of Blood Song) btw, it's supposed to come out in Jan.

[Anonymous No.11950312]

>>11950161
The book you're looking for is called Mythago Wood by Robert Holdstock

[Anonymous No.11950336]

>>11950178

I'm always down for good historical fiction, especially one that handles the beliefs and folkways of the time and how they trend into magic and lore.

>>11950312

That sou

[Anonymous No.11950377]

>>11950336
>I'm always down for good historical fiction, especially one that handles the beliefs and folkways of the time and how they trend into magic and lore.

It's a great book imo, just be warned that it's hard to read when you first pick it up. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.11950383]

>>11945553
The shrike was so scary

[Anonymous No.11950394]

>>11950218
>The words where mildly spoken, almost as a whisper; weather was cold, yet he was sweating as the night unfolds. He saw at the street, from behind the curtains, in front of a small and rounded window in the attic, away from it, enough to avoid be seeing from the outside. The street was empty, no one walked on it, no car drove over it; he knew that street so well, he passed by it every day, it used to be so full of life; full of kid running, playing soccer, young girls walking their pets, elderly men working on their yards, pruning their roses and taking out the thrash; housewives carrying groceries from their cars to their homes, greeting their neighbors or raging the kids for crossing the street without care. Now it seemed so different, so lonely, mute and dead.

I only read up to that point, not enough to like or dislike the story but I would strongly recommend hiring a professional translator if you decide on having the full thing translated.

[Anonymous No.11950413]

who the fuck itt praised age of assassins

>whodunnit plot with incredibly obvious reveals
>characters still stop to literally spell out the plot at the end

I'm not very harsh on the quality of my fantasy books but I can't fucking stand mystery plots that the reader works out hundreds of pages before the characters even think about it

[Anonymous No.11950437]

>>11950413
oh that's what bothered you about that shitty book and not the part about the cripple being a ninja?

[Anonymous No.11950446]

>>11950437
Charles Woodson won literally every honour going in football whilst being clubfooted so nah that wasn't that implausible

[Anonymous No.11950538]

Is Vorkosigan Saga by Lois McMaster Bujold any good?

[Anonymous No.11950570]

>>11950538
It's the best space opera and has some truly exceptional books within it but there are a few weaker ones.

I'd suggest reading it in omnibus order as that makes the most sense (internal chronological has some stuff 200 years before the main story)

[Anonymous No.11950573]

>>11950437
We talking about half a king? Where the cripple became a comic book villain and ruined the series?

[Anonymous No.11950582]

>>11950573
No, Age of Assassins by RJ Barker

[Anonymous No.11950592]

>>11950570
Thanks.
Is there even a single omnibus edition with everything in it? Coz there's nothing of that sort on Goodreads that I can find.

[Anonymous No.11950602]

>>11950538
>The point of view characters include women (Cordelia in Shards of Honor and Barrayar; Ekaterin in Komarr, A Civil Campaign, and The Flowers of Vashnoi), a gay man (Ethan of Athos), and a pair of brothers, one of whom is physically handicapped
Cringe.

[Anonymous No.11950604]

>>11950592
Nah they're all 2 to 3 books long, this is a good brief writeup of them

https://jamesgecko.com/vorkosigan-omnibus/

[Anonymous No.11950656]

>>11950573
You the guy that shits on Abercrombie every time he’s mentioned?

[Anonymous No.11950678]

>>11948752
Wit likes to pretend they're both smart, at least.

[Anonymous No.11950679]

>>11950656
Bitch I might be

[Anonymous No.11950709]

>>11950678
Hoid is also up to something, that immortal rat-fuck.

[Anonymous No.11950718]

>>11950709
I agree that the chapters where she shows up but isn't PoV are fucking hilarious because she sounds autistic, I don't think it's intentional though.

[Anonymous No.11950739]

>>11950656
That's all of us.

[Anonymous No.11950777]

NEW AND SHINY

>>11950770
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[Anonymous No.11951578]

WHERE THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO FIND A EBOOK COPY OF FREDERIK POHLS "GATEWAY!?!"

IS IT NOT EVEN IN PRINT ANYMORE? I CAN'T FUCKING FIND IT!

AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!