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11936460 No.11936460 [Reply] [Original]

Following on from the Larkin edition.
Don't add "20 gregory berrycones" by yourself, make recommendations and negotiate.
Have fun.

>> No.11936516

bump

>> No.11936547

>>11936460
I'm glad that this is the right version, but why follow up from that particular point?

>> No.11936567
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>>11936460
d:35 s:45, Nichiren

Really he deserves less deserved but it's the only spot open.

>> No.11936582

>>11936460
Is Jesus in here yet

>> No.11936583
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>>11936460
George and Harold 35,45

>> No.11936588

>>11936460
Wait, where the fuck is Clifford you nigger, fake chart

>> No.11936686

>>11936460
Why should goodreads suffer? I thought I'm not an newfag

>> No.11936696

Ann Frank is in the wrong spot.

>> No.11936707

>>11936460
>Gentile deserved 100
why? Apart from inventing fascism

>> No.11936708

>Marx, Engels, Foucault and Zizek deserve more suffering than monsters and serial killers

>> No.11936772

>>11936588
He was replaced by Marta 2 drafts ago. I was personally against it, and so were some other people, but OP's chart is the non-fake one nonetheless

>> No.11936777

>>11936583
I thought they were more say, 15, but I'll change them if you can prove reasonably why?
>>11936588
alright alright
>>11936696
go on?

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>>11936460
Is that Ted Bundy at 35,35?

>> No.11936826
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>>11936805
haha that's Nick Land

new changes and Beowulf

>> No.11936834

>>11936708
Why are you free texting something that should be in black text?

>> No.11936838

>>11936834
Greentexting rather

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I propose Jonathan Swift for 40,40 even though he would deserve less if there were still space in the bottom left corner.

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>>11936834
Even if you're a conservative who hates Marx and Foucault there's no way anyone can hate Zizek.

>> No.11937049

>>11937010
Zizek is quite openly misanthropic which is quite irregular for Marxists who most want to fashion Utopias out of society, my impression is that Zizek just wants to lessen human suffering rather than fix the system. He's quite a likeable presence too and surprisingly more socially conservative than I thought he would be. I think he actually managed to upset both sides of his areas of debate politically which makes him even more entertaining but he does come across as defiantly stubborn, which I suppose is inevitable for a philosophy-type

>> No.11937054

>>11937010
He’s an atheist. Any atheist gets unequivocal hatred

>> No.11937086

>>11937049
>Zizek just wants to lessen human suffering rather than fix the system.
Read Zizek

>> No.11937146

>>11937086
I'm going by the chart anon, admittedly I haven't read much and have mostly gone by his Perverts Guide and other YouTube interviews if you can call them that. But I will, that was the impression I was left with though.

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what’s the opinion for Prince Myshkin? i’d give him an s:85, d:5

>> No.11937194

>>11937054
He defended Catholic traditions and prayer in an article.
https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/political-correctness-goes-to-the-vatican/

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>>11937154
try a find someone who best fits an empty place in the puzzle anon.

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>>11937494
S: 35
D: 30

Mr. McGregor

>> No.11937555

>>11936460
>20 gregory berrycones
What are those?

>> No.11937640

>>11937154
>>11937494
Myshkin should be somewhere near Dosto

>> No.11937678

ahh man i like gregory up in the corner. jesus sucks

>> No.11937701

>>11937494
Eh Jesus was already 100, 0 in the /his/ and /tv/ chart, so it's kinda redundant, and I liked having I have no mouth guy there, he fit 100 suffering best.

>> No.11937814

>>11937494
Move Montaigne from 35, 20 to 30, 35

>> No.11937921
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>>11937701
new additions, moved Jesus to the most saint-like spot.
>>11937814
try and find an s. d. which isn't taken, moving people around isn't so much fun editing.

>> No.11937936

>>11937921
Kaczynski didn't deserve it dammit!

>> No.11937972

>>11937494
>>11937640

put myshkin in where dazai is and move him over to deserved 55

>> No.11937990

>>11937921
Agamemnon
D 100 S 70

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>>11937921
Then D:30 S:25. Here's the pic.
>>11937990
Why not D:75 S:100?

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Put Humbert Humbert at D:100 S:75 if he's not already there.

>> No.11938149 [DELETED] 

>>11937972
>>11937990
I'd go D:85 S:85 for now. I don't think he really fit either extreme, but i do think /his/ is most correct with D: 75 S: 85

>> No.11938156 [DELETED] 

>>11938149
>D:85 S:85
fuck i meant D: 80

>> No.11938181

>>11937921
Darger suffered a lot but not 100, lel.

>> No.11938192

Wasn't this completed yesterday

>> No.11938286

take out jesus and put gregory back in the corner. christcucks just have to ruin everything.

>> No.11938303

can someone post the /his/ version?

>> No.11938305

>>11936460

Why is Sontag at 100 deserved?

>> No.11938316

>>11937990
>>11938043
Agamemnon for D: 80, S: 85. He's fit's hard for both ends but he's not the extreme.

>> No.11938469

>>11938316
Sounds good

>> No.11938496

>>11938305
Because she's a cunt

>> No.11938515

prime cross posting displayed in this garbage chart

>> No.11938569
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>>11937921
Hmm, neither Candid or Myshkin really deserved anything, and Nietzsche could afford some more deserved. How about this?

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Just stop. We already finished.

>> No.11938728

>>11938718
>dune worm
yeah that's fookin shit ya cunt

>> No.11938746

>>11938718
>jesus 50, 75
it's shit

>> No.11938755

>>11938746
We aren't catering to christians. It's a non bias chart

>> No.11938801

>>11938755
It's a fucking mess. The Jesus position is just a great example why it is.

>> No.11938817

>>11938801
Not everyone is going to have all their favorite people at 0D.

>> No.11938818

>>11938718
This chart is shit. Bugger off to your containment thread. OP here is doing just fine.

>> No.11938824

>>11938818
This is the /lit/ suffering chart general and we finished the chart. We don't need another 4 threads going snail paced for the next few days

>> No.11938836

>>11938824
>we finished the chart
'we' aren't done. You might be.
And stop trying to push your chart on /his/, faggot.

>> No.11938840

>>11938824
That chart was taken over by a bunch of hooligans adding random people who have nothing to do with literature. You had your fun messing around, but now stay away from the actual chart.

>> No.11938844

Previous thread
>>11928147

>> No.11938850

>>11938840
If you don't know who someone is why don't you just ask? Not all of us are as familiar with literature as others, that doesn't mean we should remove all the people that you specifically don't know.

>> No.11938853

>>11938840
>>11938850
The problem isn't necessarily the obscurity, imo, it's that it's a disorganized mess that would take more threads to sort and at the moment has no authority being the 'finished' chart, and the guy deleted and shifted a bunch of other peoples nominations.

>> No.11938861

Who should we put at 5,5? The dog is a meme

>> No.11938885

>>11938850
>>11938850
I don't have a problem with legitimate authors who I haven't heard of or who might be a bit obscure. I'm talking about the memes that crossboarders pushed who 1) have never written anything read by more than 50 people and 2) are not characters in any such work and 3) do not in any way relate to literature or this board. That you randomly added images just because they were requested shows how useless and tainted that chart is. Beyond that, positions were being moved around with little to no reason and the rankings make absolutely no sense. Obviously there are people who find the chart in this thread has more merit and would like to work on the original chart started by OP without you coming in here to say that we should stop because another group decided to ruin one version of it in the thread you're shilling here so they could call it quits early. There is no reason to rush it when the product ends up being trash.

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>>11938853
It doesn't matter where someone is on the chart, just that they are there. It's one of those things where people look at it and go "I get that reference"

>> No.11938892

>>11938885
There isn't enough people to add without adding some filler. It makes the chart less boring to have someone shocking and bold than just another no name writer

>> No.11938899

>>11938718
>jesus 50,75
based. seriously who the fuck cares about some dead kike.

>> No.11938904

lmao i bet it's leftist anon from earlier come to sabotage the chart now because he finally conceded he wouldn't have his way. just listen to these slimy justifications.
>>11938887
>>11938892

>> No.11938911

>>11938887
>>11938892
>It doesn't matter where someone is on the chart
>"I get that reference"
>implying there aren't 400 writers/characters of note.
>It makes the chart less boring to have someone shocking and bold than just another no name writer
Scratch that, maybe you shouldn't be on this board at all.

>> No.11938931

I'm getting tired of chart ruiner. In fact he should be on the chart, right next to Salome.

>> No.11938938

>>11938899
>Not reading the Bible via Death of the Author

Never going to make it

>> No.11938946

>>11936460
And Frank had it coming

>> No.11938952

>>11938931
Just finish your chart and stop complaining. Neither chart is going to be "/lit/'s true opinion"

>> No.11938967

>>11938952
>Just finish your chart and stop complaining
Then quit fucking spamming your shit self-finished version as the official one.

>> No.11938976

>>11938952
If you're not interested in this chart, then just leave. Holy shit.

>> No.11938977

>>11938967
There is no official one. But charts belong in the chart thread

>> No.11938978

>>11938938
I read the old testament, the new testament is shit and not literary.

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We need a new 5,5. Any suggestions?

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>>11936460

Robert E. Lee should be above Anne on the suffering scale.

Pic related,

>> No.11938998

>>11938990
I think you want this thread
>>>/his/5471514

>> No.11938999

Great job bringing in the /his/fags now.

>> No.11939006

Where is Hitler? You guys are missing out on great meme potential? He wrote a book you know

>> No.11939007

>>11938987
my wee wee

>> No.11939013

>>11938977
What are you even on about, dumb nigger.

>> No.11939045

>>11937921
Did Frankenstein's monster really deserve anything? It's not like he had free will.

>> No.11939055

>>11938987
need Clifford back there

>> No.11939062

>>11939055
Really? He isn't that literary and I didn't think too many people here even grew up when those comics were popular

>> No.11939071

>>11939045
He did have free will in the book.

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>>11938987
How about the Cat from I am a Cat?

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>>11939072
added the cat in the hat under the least suffering banner and others including the "derailer", was gonna make it a leftypol & pol jab but I really don't want to incur the wrath of autismboy and his internet superpowers. You guys get what I mean, looks like mostly the center to fill in now

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>>11939072
Good enough. Fixed the ugly frodo and biblo too

>> No.11939176

>>11939146
rushdie and marquez replaced by literally whos

trash meme

>> No.11939196
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>>11939176
They are both on it.

>> No.11939200

>>11939117
Derail fag deserves worse. He's not giving up.

>> No.11939205

>>11939200
>wahh only I was allowed to make the chart and add to it

>> No.11939226

>>11939205
>says the nigger that literally bullrushed all the inclusions and changes

>> No.11939232

>>11939226
You could have done the same?

>> No.11939235

>>11939232
but i didn't cause i'm not a fag

>> No.11939238

>>11939235
Youre loss desu senpai

>> No.11939293

>>11939117
CAT in the hat should be way higher that guy was a grade A shit

>> No.11939374

Bump. Start recommending people boys.

>> No.11939384

>>11936460
why does asimov deserve suffering in any capacity?

>> No.11939385

>>11939293
alright haha I'll put him at D 60

>> No.11939387

>>11939384
sci-fi cancer

>> No.11939389

>>11939387
give me a real reason

>> No.11939391

>>11939389
Sci-fi is a cancer genre

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>>11939391
thanks anon

>> No.11939402

>>11939117
ayo
>>11938079
>>11938043

>> No.11939406

>>11939196
>all those literal whos
shit chart.

>> No.11939475

>>11936460
my contentions:
>lolita deserving to suffer
are you putting the onus on dolores, or is the cover meant to represent humphrey?
>woolfe deserving to suffer more than peterson
>pessoa suffering that much/deserving to suffer so little
>tintin deserving to suffer at all
>nietzsche deserving to suffer so little
>rimbaud deserving to suffer so little
>hp lovecraft deserving to suffer so little
>joyce suffering so little
the man had eye aids his whole life and had his cornea scrapped off by dumbfuck doctors
>rand deserving to suffer so little
>wilde deserving to suffer so much
>bolaño suffering so little
read literature + illness = illness and his other little biographies, dude was poor and sick his whole life and died not knowing if his family would be stable without him
>dumas deserving to suffer so much
>knausgård deserving to suffer so little
>thoreau suffering so little and deserving to suffer so little
his whole life was spent bemoaning how alone he felt and that he never had a true friend, died alone and unloved. also had a neckbeard that he thought was sexy.
that's about it for the people i recognize and disagree with. there are plenty of good placements in here.

>> No.11939488

>>11939475
Stop trying to sabotage the thread

>> No.11939493

>>11938718
Icarus repeated at 55,65 and 75,70 ya fools.

>> No.11939544

>>11939475
Great observations. Made some changes accordingly.

>>11939493
Fixed

>> No.11939545

>>11939488
that's just how i feel anon, i don't think any of those placements are justified and calling the chart complete leaving them in those places feels dishonest to me

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>>11939544
>>11939545
Forgot the chart.

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>>11939475
I'd appreciate it if you picked one of those contentions and then made an argument for it
>>11939402
ayy

>> No.11939561

>>11939548
It just keeps getting worse.

>> No.11939565

>>11939548
Zadie Smith deserved it, hahaha why is this so funny, how could you fuck up this badly

>> No.11939566

>>11939548
Boo!

>>11939556
Nice. Keep it up

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>>11939565
added Zadie and Martin Amis in more or less temporary spots

>> No.11939600

>>11936826
Yuck.

>> No.11939601

Since this board still thinks theodicy is important, add God below the 100, 0 point.

>> No.11939602

>>11939588
>Vonnegut
>30 suffering
Dude survived the bombing of Dresden and seen hundreds of burning bodies

>> No.11939616

What's at 100, 85?

Poor Sylvia :(

>> No.11939621

>>11939616
Slyvia is a homewrecker who feigned depression and almost killed her own kids with her own careless death and she almost ruined Teds life. She eventually cased the death of her son by suicide.

>> No.11939625

>>11939616
Dinosaur from Land Before Time.

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Added better Gollum

>> No.11939639

>>11939588
OP you gonna pass judgement on my suggestion or what >>11938569
I think it's a good one.

>> No.11939692

put my boi artaud on here he suffered a lot

>> No.11939704

switch spinoza with houllebecq at least spinoza is the Christ of philosophy abd houlebecq is a meme writer

>> No.11939709

You guys are doing it completely wrong. It says "How much they deserved it", so for 5,5 It means that they suffered very little and it asks how much they deserved to suffer very little, 5 being they didn't deserve to suffer very little meaning that they actually deserved to suffer a lot. Putting Rupi at 100 means she 100% deserved her 5 suffering.

>> No.11939726

>>11939709
so what is wrong with this?

>> No.11939727

>>11939709
No one has ever followed that so who cares.

>> No.11939738

>>11939692
>avant garde
90 deserved?

>> No.11939744

>>11939692
>>11939738
Yeah he was also a degenrate freak almost on the tier of de Sade and loved to traumatize people. Either 85, 80, or 90, 90.

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Who is this new Rupi meme I never come on here anymore

>> No.11939866

>>11936826
they're both sociopaths t b h

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>>11939841
A popular modern poet. /lit/ hates her because her poems are simplistic "anyone can write that" stuff.

>> No.11939980

Roaches do not feel suffering because they're already dead

>> No.11940140

>>11939841
the embodiment of everything wrong with the contemporary literary scene.

>> No.11940146

>>11939588
Feels a bit pathetic that we place /lit/ at 100 suffering, I think it would be fit better around 100,25

>> No.11940555

>>11936460
we have a blake painting on the chart but not blake himself?
oh well, any of the places we could have put him have been taken

>> No.11940567

/WHERE/ /ZARATHUSTRA/

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>>11938998

Nah, I'm pretty sure I'm in the right place.

Bobbie Lee tried to stop the cascade of insanity that led to the death of Anne Frank and countless others and failed.

He was forced to live with the agony of that failure on his mind until his dying day.

>> No.11940636

been off /lit/ for a year, when did this board turn against ted k? gass being so high up is pretty funny though. was there some backlash to gassposting or something?

>> No.11940710

>>11940636
pretty sure teddy was on the left a few threads ago.

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>>11938286
>*scanning*
>!alert! (Jesus_Christ.jpg -05,100) detected
>begin, outrage.

>> No.11940803

>>11939621
Wasn't she suicidal before marrying Ted, and didn't he cheat on her with a women who would eventually also suicide with her kid? Didn't Ted beat his wife Sylvia? Didn't Ted have multiple affairs while dating a woman of whom he bore children but did not marry?

>> No.11940898

>>11940800
>when you want to join in the memes but don't know any programming languages

>> No.11940925

>>11940800
reverse-fedora detected.

>> No.11940931

>>11939709
>Putting Rupi at 100 means she 100% deserved her 5 suffering.

No, it doesn't. It's how much they deserved it vs. what they actually suffered. Not sure where you're getting that from.

>> No.11940934

>>11940931
It's been clarified thread to thread what the x-axis means, but the language is misleading. It would be clearer if it just said "HOW MUCH THEY DESERVED'"

>> No.11940946

>>11936460
still don't know how to read this "How much they deserved it" doesn't make any sense it can be intoned to mean someone with 100 suffering deserved 100 suffering but someone with 10 suffering could have deserved 100 suffering but they still deserved their 10 suffering so how would that fit?

>> No.11941013

Why is Gentile at 100 deserved? Do you know anything at all about him?

>> No.11941451

>>11939602
But he is a liberal so...

>> No.11941462

>>11940800
what are you on about christcuckery is npc the religion

>> No.11941478

>>11941462
>brainwashing en mass to the point where you even lose your individuality
that's not how you spell Islam

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>>11936460
Moby Dick (the whale himself) Suffering 25 Deserved it 80

>> No.11941648

>>11939636
>All the commies on 100 deserving
You went wrong somewhere, remake the chart

>> No.11942270

>>11941557
Moby-Dick did nothing wrong. How would you feel if someone came to your house and stabbed you for your oil?

>> No.11942356

>>11941557
He's already there

>> No.11942370

>>11942270
Moby Dick is more than just the whale

>> No.11943058

>>11938946
>And
topkek

>> No.11943327

anyone got any recommendations
for the empty spaces on >>11939588

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>>11943327

>> No.11944315

>>11941557
Moby Dick was the writer.

>> No.11944321

>>11941648
This isn't a leftist board

>> No.11944337

Why does Cioran deserve such suffering?
How did Beckett suffer at all, except for his mother dying?

>> No.11944664

>>11944337
Barely anyone is in the right place. It's best if we just move on and forget

>> No.11945430

Where would Severian be? I'm suprised he's not allready on