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[Anonymous No.11931471]

What are the benefits of reading Philosophy?

[Anonymous No.11931481]

boipucci

[Anonymous No.11931485]

>>11931471
Someone in another thread said Descarted studied people in public places to see if they were humans or machines. Was that true?

[Anonymous No.11931493]

>>11931471
None

[Anonymous No.11931509]

It's fun.

[Anonymous No.11931760]

>>11931485
utterly based and redpilled on the npc question

[Anonymous No.11932424]

>>11931760
>>11931509
>>11931493
>>11931485
>>11931481
if you read or really do anything because it earns you "benefits" you are an npc

[Anonymous No.11932436]

why is Beauvoir a jojo?

[Anonymous No.11933803]

>>11932424
People who read for enrichment are getting a benefit. What's the motivation if it isn't beneficial?

[Anonymous No.11933812]

Define benefits.

[Anonymous No.11933830]

>>11933812
Define define.

[Anonymous No.11934802]

>>11932424
???

[Anonymous No.11934821]

Test

[Anonymous No.11934828]

>>11932424
this. thats why i only read postmodern lit

[Anonymous No.11934849]

>>11933803
People who read for "enrichment" are not reading for reading's sake

[Anonymous No.11934860]

>>11934849
>reading for reading's sake
reading is a form of communication, retard. reading for reading's sake is like talking for talking sake. might as well just walk around talking like a sim at that point just to hear your own voice. you're the worst kind of psued

[Anonymous No.11936292]

>>11931471
Okay, de Beauvoir made me laugh.

[Anonymous No.11936298]

>Can you no longer see a road to freedom? It’s right in front of you. You need only turn over your wrists—Seneca
All the philosophy you need.

[Anonymous No.11936300]

>>11931471
You might get better at philosophizing.

[Anonymous No.11936303]

>>11933830
You already did by your use of it in a sentence that we both understand the meaning of.

[Anonymous No.11936580]

>>11934860

[Anonymous No.11936585]

>>11934828
GR is lit

[Anonymous No.11937266]

>>11934860
*instrumental reason intensifies*

[Anonymous No.11937283]

>>11934828
Because you get the benefit of not being judged by a random online autist?

[Anonymous No.11937637]

You get to call everyone else a pseud

[Anonymous No.11937673]

>>11937266
It's only instrumental reason if you don't know the purpose of what you are doing.

Additionally, what does "reading for readings sake" even mean? That's a better example of instrumental reason.

[Anonymous No.11938361]

>>11931471
makes you understand everything better, everything you turn your eyes to melts into its base parts and the world becomes more beautiful and unified

philosophers frequently wander into other subjects for fun and perform better than those around them

[Anonymous No.11938683]

>>11931471
True philosophy as Plato mentions is the study of death.That is why you study philosophy.The rest is unimportant

[Anonymous No.11938791]

Gives you something to disagree with, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.11938842]

"What we need, as the ancients understood, is not a politician who is a business man, but a king who is a philosopher.

I apologise for the word “king”, which is not strictly necessary to the sense; but I suggest that it would be one of the functions of the philosopher to pause upon such words, and determine their importance and unimportance. The Roman Republic and all its citizens had to the last a horror of the word “king”. It was in consequence of this that they invented and imposed on us the word “Emperor”. The great Republicans who founded America also had a horror of the word “king”; which has therefore reappeared with the special qualification of a Steel King, an Oil King, a Pork King, or other similar monarchs made of similar materials. The business of the philosopher is not necessarily to condemn the innovation or to deny the distinction. But it is his duty to ask himself exactly what it is that he or others dislike in the word “king”. If what he dislikes is a man wearing the spotted fur of a small animal called the ermine, or a man having once had a metal ring placed on the top of his head by a clergyman, he will decide one way. If what he dislikes is a man having vast or irresponsible powers over other men, he may decide another. If what he dislikes is such fur or such power being handed on from father to son, he will enquire whether this ever occurs under commercial conditions today. But, anyhow, he will have the habit of testing the thing by the thought; by the idea which he likes or dislikes; and not merely by the sound of a syllable or the look of four letters beginning with a “R”.

Philosophy is merely thought that has been thought out. It is often a great bore. But man has no alternative, except between being influenced by thought that has been thought out and being influenced by thought that has not been thought out."

[Anonymous No.11939328]

>>11938842
god he's so fucking based it hurts

[Anonymous No.11939338]

>>11934849
>l'artpourlartism
useless and unintelligent.

[Anonymous No.11939341]

>>11938842
what word is he talking about at the end

[Anonymous No.11939392]

>>11931471
>Philosophy is the science that studies the fundamental aspects of the nature of existence. The task of philosophy is to provide man with a comprehensive view of life. This view serves as a base, a frame of reference, for all his actions, mental or physical, psychological or existential. This view tells him the nature of the universe with which he has to deal (metaphysics); the means by which he is to deal with it, i.e., the means of acquiring knowledge (epistemology); the standards by which he is to choose his goals and values, in regard to his own life and character (ethics)—and in regard to society (politics); the means of concretizing this view is given to him by esthetics.
>As a human being, you have no choice about the fact that you need a philosophy. Your only choice is whether you define your philosophy by a conscious, rational, disciplined process of thought and scrupulously logical deliberation—or let your subconscious accumulate a junk heap of unwarranted conclusions, false generalizations, undefined contradictions, undigested slogans, unidentified wishes, doubts and fears, thrown together by chance, but integrated by your subconscious into a kind of mongrel philosophy and fused into a single, solid weight: self-doubt, like a ball and chain in the place where your mind’s wings should have grown.
>The men who are not interested in philosophy need it most urgently: they are most helplessly in its power. The men who are not interested in philosophy absorb its principles from the cultural atmosphere around them—from schools, colleges, books, magazines, newspapers, movies, television, etc. Who sets the tone of a culture? A small handful of men: the philosophers. Others follow their lead, either by conviction or by default.
Thread over.

[Anonymous No.11939964]

>>11931471
Becoming based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.11940675]

>>11931509
The best kind of fun

[Anonymous No.11940692]

Studying philosophy increases your appreciation for being alive by making explicit the incredible and fascinating features of the world that give rise to even the most commonplace experiences.

You will also have an ability to directly engage with some of the strangest, most wonderfully fascinating and brilliant people in all of human history, and witness the splendor of their supreme autism.

You'll also learn to reason both efficiently and and very well, which will help you navigate the world.

Not to mention that it's just plain fun to see some of the smartest people ever seek out the hardest problems of their times and ram their heads against the wall until they find novel and thrilling solutions.

You don't need to have a personal or emotional investment in philosophy, although if you're inclined to be deeply concerned about philosophical problems, you'll probably find it therapeutic. I know that I do. When I worry that I don't know the nature of myself or knowledge, I can take solace in the fact that I'm doing everything in my power to change that, even if it's just taking one step at a time.

[Anonymous No.11940722]

>>11939392
>>11940692
This

[Anonymous No.11940729]

>>11938361
>philosophers frequently wander into other subjects for fun and perform better than those around them
Examples? I thought most philosophers were in philosophy because they were failures elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.11940851]

>>11940729
That's kind of confusing. If we're talking about prominent philosophers throughout history that's fantastically untrue. Most of them were major contributors to other fields. Descartes produced some of the most absurd philosophical theories out there yet he's a crucial figure in the development of math and natural science.

But I used the present tense, because I'm speaking about people I know. Taking on extra degrees in math and physics and whatnot. Also my experience as an undergrad, and how fun it was knowing that I or any of the other majors could wander into just about anything and rock it. After studying philosophy, everything outside of it not only becomes easier but more appealing as well. That said, make no mistake - I was damn good at every subject I touched, and the same went the same went for most of the people I knew in the philosophy program. But philosophy's generally going to be more stimulating than anything else if you're someone who thinks. It is definitely a gratification decision in this day and age... There are easier, more lucrative, and more prestigious fields of study available, but people choose philosophy because it's fucking better.

I don't understand what the basis is for dismissing the intellectual utility of what's literally a science of pure thought. Hearing people trash philosophy is as mystifying as hearing people protest GMOs.

[Anonymous No.11940876]

>>11940729
>I thought most philosophers were in philosophy because they were failures elsewhere
???
Historically, most prominent philosophers in the western arena were major contributors to math and natural science.

Anecdotally - I knew a lot of multiple degree holders. Physics and math were common areas of study undergrads with time to spare.

Personally... I performed well at just about everything I was ever presented with as far as institutional education goes. There are plenty of easier, more prestigious, and more lucrative fields of study - philosophy is just better. However, other subjects do become both simpler to process and more interesting... I'm generally down to study just about anything, although I haven't had formal exposure to anything except physics.

[Anonymous No.11940972]

>>11932424
Buttmad NPC detected.

[Anonymous No.11941086]

>>11939392
>greentext
Who said this then?

[Anonymous No.11941124]

>>11932424
>being rational makes u an NPC
this meme has gone too far

[Anonymous No.11941126]

>>11931471
>that meme
>that file name

[Anonymous No.11941131]

>>11932424
It's impossible to do nor not do anything without attempting to earn "benefits", even if the rewards are firing neurotransmitters (Which everything actually is anyway). Every decision is based on an evaluation of outcome in terms of pleasure or pain value.

[Anonymous No.11941374]

>>11941086
Ayn Rand

[Anonymous No.11941391]

There are none. Philosophy consists of meaningless linguistic proliferations completely divorced from the actuality of life itself.

[Anonymous No.11941907]

>>11940729
One of my favorite quotes about philosophy is that nobody respects it because all of the discoveries of philosophy turn into actual fields of study.

Aristotle developed biology as it is today. Pythagoras made huge leaps in math and how it pertains to music. Somebody basically correctly guessed cell theory and the theory of atoms

[Anonymous No.11941945]

Understanding People. I see a lot of harm done because of ignorance but the problem of ignorance goes much deeper then mere not knowing stuff. There are certain things to it making it inevitable, and I have a want to understand this wich makes me forgive ignorance better as some can't help it. This only for epistemology tho.

Justice and Revenge too are interesting concepts and finding out what is "just" and what you can do about it.