here lies the untainted suffering chart: Larkin Edition

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here lies the untainted suffering chart: Larkin Edition Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:37:14 2018 No.11928147 [Reply] [Original]

have fun, just don't touch Larkin you twats.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:39:21 2018 No.11928159 bump

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:40:21 2018 No.11928164 >>11928147 Missing a lot of people there. >>11926600 was the latest non-corrupt version.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:40:58 2018 No.11928169 File: 1.07 MB, 2199x2163, new.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Latest chart for reference

Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:41:22 2018 No.11928172

>>11928147
Someone keeps remaking this and moving all of the Marxists to least deserved and all of the right wingers to 100. Thanks for recovering the previous version.

From now on, can we please keep the politics out of this? Obviously there is going to be some politics in involved but can we not just move stuff to 100 or 0 because its fit your personal ideology. Again, thanks OP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:42:28 2018 No.11928174 >>11928169 Ignore this one. It's corrupted with extreme bias.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:43:14 2018 No.11928179 >>11928169 fuck off, seriously, go fuck yourself. >>11928164 No Larkin, friendo, they built that one from the corrupt one where Plath is somehow a saint.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:44:44 2018 No.11928183 >>11928179 Plath did nothing wrong

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:46:44 2018 No.11928194 >>11928169 this would be accurate if /lit/ was reddit, but no, it isn't. Varg? Really? Hitler? Really? Barely of them have any literary backgrounds.

Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:46:49 2018 No.11928196

>>11928174
>>11928179
I think he posted it as, well, reference - for the non-political entries we're missing now.

>>11928172
Why would someone fuck with some online chart for sake of politics? The guy's just doing it to be annoying. Rectify his bullshit another two times and he'll run out of fuel, that's their defining characteristic anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:47:29 2018 No.11928198 >>11928179 Larkin's at 60, 35. If you wanna debate positions do so but use that as base since it has all the recent nominations.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:48:50 2018 No.11928204 >>11928183 Sure, she's not a homewrecker who nearly killed her child by being lax with her suicide and ruined Hughes' life all the while being a hack.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:49:45 2018 No.11928208 >>11928147 This change was needed. >replace DFW with Henry Suso and move DFW somewhere lower. >>11925193 >>11927703 >>11927710 >>11927719 >>11927735 >>11927752

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:49:48 2018 No.11928210 >>11928169 I like how he always replaces Winston's spot too for some reason, clearly nothing to do with the anti-soviet messages in 1984.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:49:58 2018 No.11928212 >>11928198 no

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:50:10 2018 No.11928213 >>11928204 She had depression. If all those men you relate to can kill themselves and be placed at 10 deserving then she can too

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:50:36 2018 No.11928219 >>11928169 Now that I'm comparing the two next to each other it's impressive how much effort yet little thought he put into this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:53:03 2018 No.11928228 >>11928212 Then honestly I can't say you're much better than the lefty fag. That's about a whole threads effort you're throwing away.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:54:14 2018 No.11928232 >>11928169 I read authors on the left and the right. You are absolutely clueless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:56:13 2018 No.11928239 >>11928204 Dazai was a manslut and a terrible father but he's only at 35.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 19:56:57 2018 No.11928242 >>11928239 Dazai ended up killing two women due to his depression

Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:00:03 2018 No.11928257

Reminder that 60,85 and 30,80 are the same person.
Also, the guy did impressively little to really deserve anything, he even avoided having to cover war stories when he was working as journalist. Anyone have an idea why someone would put him at 60 deserved?
And again, lower his suffering factor a tad, he "only" lost his parents and grandparents when he was young, but had some distant relatives he grew up at and a chill college life.
Someone who actually knows his life and didn't just read his wikipedia page chime and correct me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:00:22 2018 No.11928259 >>11928228 It was worth it

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:00:22 2018 No.11928260 File: 1.09 MB, 2199x2163, 7y457457.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11928239 >>11928242 OK, moved him over just to be fair

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:00:34 2018 No.11928263 File: 1.66 MB, 2199x2163, newestchart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ignore both leftyfags and OP's chart, who's extremist Larkinfagging has led him to discard almost the entire efforts of the last thread. This is the latest official one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:03:16 2018 No.11928270 >>11928169 fuck off leftist still the whole board will not use your retarded, far-left chart

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:03:46 2018 No.11928272 >>11928263 This is the /pol/ version, why is Foucault so far on the right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:03:53 2018 No.11928275 >>11928208 seconding this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:05:00 2018 No.11928277 File: 1.29 MB, 2199x2163, evenstevens.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11928263 OP here, thanks, here, even stevens.

Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:05:10 2018 No.11928279 [DELETED]

>>11928270
Not all of us are from /pol/ either. We can make both a /pol/ chart and one that doesn't represent the /pol/ posters. You are forgetting that making a chart doesn't objectively represent all of /lit/ just because it was made by the opinions of a few lurkers of these threads

Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:05:44 2018 No.11928282

>>11928272
>This is the /pol/ version
nah, it's just the old version, Foucault was put somewhat on the far right by OP of thread #2 because someone suggested such placement
the /pol/ version had Hitler at 20 deserved
the /leftypol/ shill version you can see above
it's really easy to tell which one is which one

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:08:11 2018 No.11928293 >>11928279 I actually doubt anyone here is from /pol/. If you look at the history of the chart that's simply how its been turning out. You, on the other hand, have demonstrated a very obvious bias agenda over a long period.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:08:24 2018 No.11928294 ok lets stop with the politic bullshit and just work to get this chart done. start recommending people along with their picture and position

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:09:11 2018 No.11928297 >>11928294 >>11928208

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:09:52 2018 No.11928300 >>11928277 Who's 45,90? I remember him being at the top for a while, what's his story?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:13:26 2018 No.11928320 File: 204 KB, 294x296, emmabovary.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11928277 >>11928294 Again, Bovary 55, 55

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:14:12 2018 No.11928322 File: 1.30 MB, 2199x2163, alright.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11928297 one trainwreck of a thread later, back on track >>11928300 good question

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:16:29 2018 No.11928329 >>11928322 Prometheus 60D, 100S or you could switch him with someone who's at 45-55D and 100S

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:18:32 2018 No.11928331 File: 1.15 MB, 2199x2163, fix.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] New not biased version

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:19:41 2018 No.11928334 >>11928322 Give Goethe Mann's spot to be honest. Mann got bullied at the nobel prize speech and mocked people, put him at 20,15 or something

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:20:36 2018 No.11928338 File: 40 KB, 302x384, odysseus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11928322 Is Odysseus on here? If not, I suggest 100 suffering, 50 deserved.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:22:45 2018 No.11928346 >>11928331 >Stirner still remains outside the chart based >>11928338 Yeah, he's 40, 85.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:25:21 2018 No.11928351 >>11928331 hearty kek still a better chart than the "serious" "non-biased" "politics-free" extremist ones, kudos

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:27:24 2018 No.11928361 >>11928346 Thanks. I guess that's ok but I would swap around Christopher Hitchens, there's no way he suffered more than Odysseus.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:33:55 2018 No.11928382 File: 729 KB, 904x301, i want to be an intelligentual too.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] H E L P

Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:38:59 2018 No.11928394

>>11928382
Guy at the top is Winston from 1984
Bearded man is King Lear
Fat guy is John Kennedy Toole
Boy I think is Piggy from Lord of the Flies
In the corner is Hitchens and Leopardi. (neither of whom I understand why are there)
Don't know the robot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:43:19 2018 No.11928415 >>11928394 grug thanks you

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:46:51 2018 No.11928428 File: 1.31 MB, 2199x2163, okay.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11928334 >>11928338 etc. Additions + Lester Bangs, Alright I need to hit the hay, keep it clean

Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:49:20 2018 No.11928438
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>>11928322
S 100
D 60

Agrajag, Hitchhiker's guide

I wasn't really paying attention, but I guess there was something the matter with the version of the chart I had suggested him for

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:50:05 2018 No.11928442 >>11928428 dude i said odysseus is already on there, come on famalam.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:50:55 2018 No.11928448 >>11928438 >>11928428 Oh, didn't see that. S 95 D 65 would probably work too then

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 20:57:10 2018 No.11928473 File: 1.31 MB, 2199x2163, finally.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11928438 alright, last call for me for now, replaced a duplicate Larkin I put in earlier to remove a meme with Frank Stanford of "The Moon..." fame. Godspeed, anons

Anonymous Sat Oct 13 21:01:13 2018 No.11928489
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>>11928394
>these are the people taking up YOUR suggestion's spot
Can we get K somewhere into top left? My recommendation: Shift part of the column down by moving the trolley problem guy and work from there
Good luck

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 21:04:05 2018 No.11928497 File: 1.60 MB, 2199x2163, 1539478630227.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11928473 removed duplicate Odysseus myself because chartanon is a brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 21:09:03 2018 No.11928515 Including real life people on this was probably a mistake

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 21:10:19 2018 No.11928522 >>11928394 The Robot is Marvin the Paranoid Android

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 21:11:20 2018 No.11928526 >>11928382 Most of the ones you apparently don't recognize are more well-known than a lot of the ones you apparently do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 21:38:24 2018 No.11928634 >>11928497 Sadler on S:40 D:5

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 21:40:40 2018 No.11928643 >>11928147 >Satan is a literal entity and not a symbol of our evil desires Invalidated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 22:11:43 2018 No.11928763 >>11928526 You make it sound like that means anything, when recognizing half of these images depends entirely on whether you just so happened to have seen that presentation of the character and less even on having read the book.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 22:13:15 2018 No.11928769 >>11928643 >only literal entities may be included in the chart, no allegories allowed Please direct me to this rule

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 22:16:17 2018 No.11928776 >>11928769 How can something with no consciousness suffer? Where in the Bible does it even say that Satan suffers?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 22:32:43 2018 No.11928834 >>11928515 Yeah. No real life people could suffer anywhere past the 80s if we're including characters that are literally damned to eternal suffering

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 22:34:39 2018 No.11928842 >>11928643 There are plenty of literary works where Satan is an entity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 23:13:50 2018 No.11929011 >>11928776 >the Bible its obviously a reference to paradise lost

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 23:15:52 2018 No.11929018 >>11929011 We should include Biblical Satan, Paradise Lost Satan, and Divine Comedy Satan

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 23:17:59 2018 No.11929026 File: 232 KB, 640x480, AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am from I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream S 85 D 100

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 23:20:44 2018 No.11929032 >>11928331 I like this one. Only chart that puts Schopenhauer where he should've been, from the get go

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 23:24:13 2018 No.11929044 File: 444 KB, 1169x1594, Portrait_of_Michel_de_Montaigne,_circa_unknown.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Unless he's already there put Montaigne at S:35 D:20

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 23:25:53 2018 No.11929047 >>11929044 or D:10

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 23:41:44 2018 No.11929097 File: 21 KB, 97x97, titus97x97.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Titus Andronicus D: 80 S: 50

Anonymous Sat Oct 13 23:47:00 2018 No.11929120
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>>11929026
>>11929044
>>11929097
Added

Some corrections have been made;

Marx- moved right because his selfishness causes the death of two of his children. He would spend his days drinking and writing his propaganda instead of making money and feeding his family. He also is a serial adulterer and has never had a real job in his life.

Foucault - Aside from his extremely degenerate ideologies, toward the end of his life when he was infected with AIDs he admitted to willingly "infecting as many people as possible so he can take them with him". It's likely dozens of men died because of this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 13 23:51:11 2018 No.11929135 File: 818 KB, 1600x2102, hofmann_1-062316.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11929120 Walser, S-70 D-35

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 00:08:34 2018 No.11929202 >>11929120 Probably shouldn't have done that. Leftybro's gonna get triggered again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 00:15:09 2018 No.11929226 >>11929202 I'm not doing it on an ideological basis, but based on them themselfs

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 00:25:52 2018 No.11929260 >>11929120 >he admitted to willingly "infecting as many people as possible so he can take them with him". sauce?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 00:36:58 2018 No.11929295 >>11929260 I saw it on a /pol/ infographic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 01:56:04 2018 No.11929514 Lady Macbeth ??S 100D

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 02:04:33 2018 No.11929547 File: 1.18 MB, 2199x2163, sufferingchart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Was it intentional?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 02:10:10 2018 No.11929569 >>11929547 hegel needs to be wayyyyy further on the deserved it axis. literally made a career out of trashing his friends.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 02:20:07 2018 No.11929598 >>11929547 >deleuze 85 35 >>11929569 >>11929120 get the fuck out We back to this version->>>11928497 Plath or no Plath is a sacrifice I'm willing to make

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 02:28:49 2018 No.11929637 File: 17 KB, 97x97, ladymacbeth97x97.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11929514 I say put her right below her husband. D: 95 S: 75

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 02:30:55 2018 No.11929650 >>11928147 >penguin >bugs bunny Why?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 02:31:10 2018 No.11929651 So far nobody's disputed any of the ones I suggested. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or if it's just that nobody recognizes them

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 02:35:55 2018 No.11929667 >>11929547 Where is Sauron?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 02:42:53 2018 No.11929695 >>11928169 Fuck off /leftypol/. Stop trying to make everything about politics, you obsessed faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 02:49:44 2018 No.11929715 File: 1.62 MB, 2199x2163, 22222.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 02:50:53 2018 No.11929721 >>11922183 old thread for breadcrumbs

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 03:15:42 2018 No.11929786 >>11929715 Why are Elliot Rodger and Ted Kaczynski on here? Releasing a manifesto so people pay more attention to your crimes =/= literature. They're not even related to /lit/ board culture, they're just memes that crossed over from /r9k/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 03:18:59 2018 No.11929799 >>11929715 Why is de Sade so low? Wasn't he jailed in really shitty conditions?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 03:21:47 2018 No.11929811 >>11929799 He spent more than half of his life in an 18th century French prison (so yes, horrid conditions.) I agree, he should be placed higher on the suffering scale. This chart is already ruined though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 03:27:13 2018 No.11929826 File: 1.62 MB, 2199x2163, 22222.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11929811 Why's that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 03:37:04 2018 No.11929855 File: 1.38 MB, 2199x2163, 1539502033198.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11929826 If this chart were serious, it would look more like this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 03:47:26 2018 No.11929882 >>11929855 hm, I don't know. Freud was an ass that caused a lot of hysteria instead of helping people like he was supposed to, and I don't see any issue with Raskolnikov or Gatsby's place.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 03:52:41 2018 No.11929897 File: 1.62 MB, 2199x2163, 22222.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11929855 No idea what the plant is Ted n Bugs get posted here a lot so I left em but I did everything else

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 03:55:03 2018 No.11929903

>>11929882
Well, one problem is that we have ordinary people (who were unable to help people to the extent that is possible today) on par with killers on the D axis. Freud attempted to look for causes in mental problems. He was not a bad man in his private and professional life. That he was wrong about a lot of things doesn't mean he deserved to suffer as much as someone like Karl Marx (who let his children starve to death so he could attain fame.)

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 04:00:42 2018 No.11929915

>>11929897
nah m8 I wanna this guy's explanation for Raskolnikov and Gatsby.
>>11929903
Alright but what about the characters? Gatsby certainly didn't deserve more than he suffered. He's the symbol of the man roped and broke by the american dream and the only guy of substance in his hollow rich society. He deserved some of it of course for being foolish and falling for a slut but he was only looking for that 'greenlight' in the end.
Raskolnikov got equal dues I think. He went through terrible mental agony after the murder and went to some shit gulag prison for several years and reformed for his waifu.

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 04:15:27 2018 No.11929953

>>11929915
I'm not of the belief that suffering after the fact means that suffering was undeserved. Perhaps he deserves to suffer less than an unrepentant killer like Patrick Bateman. I would accept that argument, but that is not the same thing as using what he had to go through after committing the murder as a way to say that he deserved better. Also, if I remember correctly, Raskolnikov only went to the prison for 7 years (which is rather tame for murder.)
You only feel that way about Gatsby because he is meant to be a relatable character. Everyone arguably has hopes and dreams that fall through to varying degrees, but this is not a justification for murder. You could say the same thing about Patrick Bateman if you wanted, that he was consumed by hollow American materialism, but I think many would agree that he absolutely deserved to suffer. Gatsby is written in a more sympathetic, romantic light. You feel that he is of more substance because the story is told by someone who admires him; it does not really mean that everyone else has less substance and deserves to die.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 04:24:48 2018 No.11929983 File: 15 KB, 300x300, 1539504412580.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11928169 >christopher hitchens suffered more than fernando pessoa Just fucking end it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 04:29:02 2018 No.11929993 >>11929897 how did tin-tin deserve it? this oughta be good

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 04:31:45 2018 No.11930005 >>11929897 100,25?

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 04:37:05 2018 No.11930021

Move Evola to 25 deserve. Many people who actually knew him personally said he was pretty friendly. If you are trying to keep this apolitical you shouldn't judge him on his philosophy (which doesn't even have bad intentions as people who have actually read him will tell you).

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 04:43:59 2018 No.11930042 File: 1.12 MB, 2199x2163, 123.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11930021 point taken

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 04:45:22 2018 No.11930049 >>11930042 >Zizek more deserving than Marx Zizek might be a bit of a fool but it's hard to dislike him personally.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 04:53:31 2018 No.11930081 >>11930042 >tried to commit suicide multiple times >abusive husband, cheated on her >miscarriage how the fuck is plath 60 80? what the fuck is your deal

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 04:57:30 2018 No.11930102 >>11930081 We discussed this. Read the thread before making dumb comments. >>11928204

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 05:03:13 2018 No.11930118 >>11929897 WHERE IS SAURON?!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 05:13:41 2018 No.11930162 File: 1.13 MB, 2199x2163, 123.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Added Hamsun and Knausgaard. Moved Tao to the right for shilling and not going to bed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 05:17:08 2018 No.11930178 >>11930162 Why the fuck is Zizek 75 deserved?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 05:18:32 2018 No.11930184 File: 2.23 MB, 2199x2163, 1539508421747.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11930162 >>11930162 >>11930162 Added Murnane ya boi

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 05:23:14 2018 No.11930192 >>11930102 Do you understand what depression is? And not the "middle class kid failed out of college" edition Both wives of that faggot Ted killed themselves but nah he dindu nuffin

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 05:29:34 2018 No.11930207 File: 1.15 MB, 2199x2163, chart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11930184 Added the dude from Death in Venice. Moved Plath back to her original place because she ruined the lives of her children.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 05:32:31 2018 No.11930220 >>11930207 SAURON?!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 05:36:52 2018 No.11930235 File: 2.26 MB, 2199x2163, 1539509374699.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11930207 added ts eliot moved tolstoy the prick

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 05:38:09 2018 No.11930239 >>11930235 fucking idiot, theres two ts eliots now

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 05:39:13 2018 No.11930242 >>11930239 who cares

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 05:51:05 2018 No.11930268 >>11928169 fuck you for removing Simone and replacing her with Schopenshit

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 05:54:47 2018 No.11930274 >>11930235 >K >50% deserving lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 05:57:04 2018 No.11930282 >>11930207 Horrible post. I'll resume with >>11929897 tomorrow unless it gets really bad

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 06:09:32 2018 No.11930308 File: 1.20 MB, 2199x2163, real.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Added a bunch because no one else is helping

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 06:11:00 2018 No.11930313 >>11930274 This. It should be around 80

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 06:13:13 2018 No.11930325 Can someone explain the "Stirner is outside of suffering and deserving to suffer" thing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 06:15:22 2018 No.11930331 >>11930308 Why did you switch Montaignes position? Also remove duplicates.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 06:17:01 2018 No.11930335 >>11930325 spooks

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 06:18:44 2018 No.11930337 >>11930331 Which one is Montaignes? and which duplicates?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 06:53:41 2018 No.11930411 File: 1.25 MB, 2199x2163, 35.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Let's get this finished today

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 06:57:31 2018 No.11930425 >>11930411 lacan deserves to be at 80 for being an obscurantist charlatan hack. He slept with his students too

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 07:01:38 2018 No.11930438 >>11930411 daniil kharms needs to be there also why is martin buber, ts eliot, and lenin are each there twice

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 07:30:38 2018 No.11930499 File: 392 KB, 673x985, 0e09fb44-f655-11e2-8abf-005056b70bb8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11930411 Put Wishbone somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 07:39:21 2018 No.11930511 File: 1.29 MB, 2199x2163, Z.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11930438 >>11930425 Added and done. Plus a couple others

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 07:40:46 2018 No.11930515 >>11930511 where is the recently added Hamsun? because there is one at 15D, 70S, and has been there for ages

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 08:06:42 2018 No.11930577 Add Mao s70 d95

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 08:15:50 2018 No.11930608

>>11930511
>Kierkegaard is still that high
Literally why? He grew up in a rich family, no one around him died particularly tragically, he didn't fight public opinion only to be recognized only after he died like many other authors, and his death was a fairly normal one, though soon.

Switch him and Wittgenstein, that guy at least fought in a war he even won several medals in.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 08:19:44 2018 No.11930619 >>11930511 >chart is now full of no-names Yeah great, better wrap it up as a pile of shit than keep working on it. There's literally no reason we need to "get it over with," what the fuck are you doing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 08:21:55 2018 No.11930625 >>11930619 who do you mean by no-names?

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 08:27:39 2018 No.11930638

>>11930625
See my last 4 digits? The guy closest to them in coordinates, for one.
We should be adding more recognizable characters.
inb4
>upset you don't see your favorite YA character?
The chart is fucking pointless when 95% of /lit/ only recognizes 10% of the entries. Put in the people actually discussed on here, both authors and characters.

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 08:35:02 2018 No.11930656

>>11930638
I'm not the chart guy btw, just being curious, because I can recognize 90% of the people. Faces of some known people are less recognizable than their names, but I wouldn't say that 95% of /lit/ can only recognize 10% of the entries.

The chart has 400 spots, do you find it weird that Richard Rorty made it? Maybe less than 50% of people here will recognize his face, but he's discussed here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 08:36:35 2018 No.11930659 >>11930638 >See my last 4 digits? The guy closest to them in coordinates, for one. your previous post ends in 0619, so... 5 suffering, 20 deserved? or 20 suffering, 5 deserved?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 08:37:53 2018 No.11930663 >>11930638 Gaddis?

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 09:07:46 2018 No.11930739
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>>11930638
OP here, agreed. I hardly recognise any of those and recent additions look like modern nobodies in the paper with zero legacies.
+Added Balzac
Emily Bronte
G.G.Marquez
Wordsworth Editions
Salmon Man Rushdie
Lassoman Krasznahorkai

Take it easy

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 09:16:14 2018 No.11930767 >>11930739 Codreanu?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 09:45:32 2018 No.11930885 >>11930739 inb4 you cut Gaddis out because the guy admitted he doesn't know who he is

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 09:53:18 2018 No.11930911

>>11929953
Gatsby didn’t murder anyone, what are you talking about? Daisy’s the one that ran over the girl at the end.
And sure Nick romanticizes him but as far as it’s demonstrable he is still the only one with substance in his society. He at least suffered more than where he’s at. Getting shot dead in a pool for something someone else did is a pretty shit fate compared to the others on his row.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 09:55:09 2018 No.11930915 >>11930739 You removed a literature nobel prize winner ya big ninny

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 09:59:54 2018 No.11930931 >Ben Shapiro ????

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 10:03:44 2018 No.11930943 >>11930915 >>11930885 Whereabouts, I'll add them? William Gaddis or JL Gaddis?

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 10:05:18 2018 No.11930946

>>11930931
>he hasn't read the absolute bomb novel by Shapiro

>>11930943
Gaddis is already on there, it's just that anon suggested that "guy with coordinates closest to his post ID" is "unknown", while it seems that he was talking about Gaddis (5, 20)

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 10:06:55 2018 No.11930953 >>11930739 Can anybody explain Atwood's position? Just in case they're not already on there: Faust: S65, D100 Salome: S45, D100 Chaucer: bottom left somewhere

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 10:10:49 2018 No.11930967 >>11930953 >Atwood's position vile bitch with one of the dumbest, worst, most political novels in history, absolutely wortless fiction ouevre, and a couple idiotic essays which, while it might seem very hard to achieve, are even worse than her fiction

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 10:21:53 2018 No.11930999
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>>11930953
added save the children edition Dylan
>>11930967
this guy gets it, she cowardly passes of thinly veiled sensationalist propaganda as YA fiction and then has the nerve to call it "literary".
Plus a Handmaids tale was clearly about Islam but she wussed out because she feared getting Rushdie'd with a fatwa when all she wanted to make was boyfriend / rape fiction

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 10:29:56 2018 No.11931028 File: 30 KB, 200x200, 7C5BF39C-994A-494D-92B0-B86AC0D5C004.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I feel like the dog Martha would be a better 5, 5. Seems more relevant since her show is about language, and the ‘read a book’ meme.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 10:37:43 2018 No.11931045 File: 1.32 MB, 2199x2163, mike.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11931028 added Jurassic Mike, need to go hoover a bit

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 10:39:43 2018 No.11931048 >>11931045 how the fuck is Jurassic Mike literary? also the Clifford > Martha change is bad tbqh, Clifford is more known

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 10:44:32 2018 No.11931071 >>11931048 To be fair, Martha does look like she's endured less suffering than Clifford. King is there, Crichton was an airport novelist as well for sure, they've both sold a fuck ton of books and are far more well known than some avant-garde nobody.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 10:45:50 2018 No.11931075 >>11931071 King and Crichton are memes though, is Mike one too?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 11:16:09 2018 No.11931200 Who are 25,100 and 30,100 and 35,100? Also, why does Gentile deserve to suffer so much, besides being the intellectual of fascism?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 11:17:08 2018 No.11931203 >>11931200 >Gentile who

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 11:18:28 2018 No.11931210 >>11931203 Giovani Gentile, he's at 40,100 in the OP.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 11:30:55 2018 No.11931263 >>11931200 Susan Sontag, Anton Chigurh and Margaret Atwood

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 11:32:11 2018 No.11931264 File: 2 KB, 125x102, 1535749570218s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11928643 >fedora

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 11:33:53 2018 No.11931268 >>11931045 >no sauron >no candide Trash.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 11:34:59 2018 No.11931277 >>11931268 nigga, we still have 20 spots left.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 11:35:14 2018 No.11931279 >>11931263 No i meant the entire 100 row. I get Sontag, but who are the two above her? The jewish/dykish looking ones?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 11:46:58 2018 No.11931321 >>11931279 >Anton Chigurh and Margaret Atwood

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 11:48:32 2018 No.11931328 >>11931321 reeeee thats not anton chigurh

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 11:51:42 2018 No.11931342 >>11931268 Candide is 20, 85

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 12:04:02 2018 No.11931401 >>11931268 except they are both on there....

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 12:21:11 2018 No.11931487 >>11931045 >bloom moved to 80 deserved What in the absolute fuck. His original spot was perfect.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 12:25:36 2018 No.11931508 >>11931045 Tits androgynous is missing>>11929097 Make his suffering 60 though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 12:26:15 2018 No.11931512 >>11931487 what was his original spot then?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 12:27:01 2018 No.11931516 >>11931512 25D, 45S or so

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 12:36:05 2018 No.11931571 >>11931512 S65 D 25

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 13:38:31 2018 No.11931908 >>11929897 the plant is a character from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I don't think there's any official visual depiction of him so the picture is a bowl of petunias, one of his incarnations

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 13:39:44 2018 No.11931921 >>11929715 Why'd AM get removed?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 13:57:05 2018 No.11932023 Machiavel s10 d85

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 14:01:43 2018 No.11932049 >>11931045 Why is Lenin on there twice?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 14:03:19 2018 No.11932054 Can someone post all the names to the picture so I can fill out my reading list

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 14:15:38 2018 No.11932113 Is Sima Qian on there? Great contribution to world literature/culture, got castrated.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 14:37:30 2018 No.11932206 >>11932049 They still have him laying around and plan to raise him again on the third century.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 14:54:37 2018 No.11932287 >>11932023 He's already at 45S 60D.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 15:41:47 2018 No.11932493 >>11932206 top lel

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 16:24:52 2018 No.11932687 Bob Dylan at 25s, 30d

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 16:43:33 2018 No.11932778 >>11932687 already there

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 16:48:36 2018 No.11932804 File: 16 KB, 176x240, 176px-Europe_a_Prophecy,_copy_D,_object_1_(Bentley_1,_Erdman_i,_Keynes_i)_British_Museum.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Top right

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 16:59:16 2018 No.11932843 >>11931045 >tfw lenin is literally madara uchiha

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 17:00:13 2018 No.11932853 File: 15 KB, 97x97, Pound97x97.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11931045 No one's submitted Pound huh? D: 60 S: 85

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 17:03:47 2018 No.11932866 >>11931028 Martha doesn't have the same literary value as Clifford, though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 17:06:02 2018 No.11932879 Who is bottom right and top left?

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 17:12:20 2018 No.11932909
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>>11932866
The anon made the request, I put Clifford there in the first place as a joke but again, she looks more innocent.

OP here, some light changes,
All the new additions more or less in place, with Hitchens moved and Allen Ginsburg moved (I have no idea why he was at a deserved 40-something, must have been a NAMBLA poster)

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 17:15:25 2018 No.11932923 >>11932909 >Marx slowly inching to the right more and more every day Lol. Not complaining or anything since this is just a fun project.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 17:16:07 2018 No.11932927 File: 1.33 MB, 2199x2163, bloomfix.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11932909 forgot to remove old 2nd bloom take it easy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 17:19:08 2018 No.11932947 >>11932927 why are people next to Meme Goonan (75/85D, 10S) gone?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 17:19:36 2018 No.11932949 100,100 Lucifer?

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 17:19:53 2018 No.11932952

>>11932923
Marx has been moved once on this thing, I'm imagining most people put him there because of what he spawned rather than what he said. Much like why Ben Shapiro is near him and Dworkin.

I think one "internet-cool-kid-marxist" obsessively kept removing himself from that spot, that's why you might see inconsistencies.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 17:20:20 2018 No.11932955 >>11932909 If the one dude's not gonna contest my argument about gatsby I want him back to his old spot (40, 55)

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 18:15:29 2018 No.11933274 >>11932927 why should schoppenhauer deserve it? he's just alone with a fucked up mother

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 18:30:56 2018 No.11933348 >>11933274 because you are a faggot

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 19:14:05 2018 No.11933515 >>11933348 no u

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 19:20:21 2018 No.11933552 >>11930619 Out of 400 people there are going to be some that not all of us know. Which ones are you having trouble with?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 19:21:49 2018 No.11933562 >>11932853 He isn't known enough here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 19:22:21 2018 No.11933566 >>11933562 what level of irony are you on

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 19:24:40 2018 No.11933588 bump

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 19:30:48 2018 No.11933626 File: 1.56 MB, 2199x2163, 1539375270804.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Stop fucking with the chart if you are just going to fuck around

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 19:47:48 2018 No.11933714 >>11933626 Hey moron, I made that chart motherfucker

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 19:52:55 2018 No.11933747 >>11933714 You are ruining it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 19:55:46 2018 No.11933766 >>11932927 Why are you letting Deleuze get off so easily when his peers Derrida are Foucault are so far right? Same with Lacan. Don't let them off the hook so easily.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:02:38 2018 No.11933809 >>11933562 As opposed to 80% of that chart?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:02:39 2018 No.11933810 >>11933766 because capital is sentient also I may just not be seeing him but where is Land

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:06:09 2018 No.11933822 This has turned into even more of a trainwreck than the other boards' charts

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:07:31 2018 No.11933832 >>11933810 35, 35 >>11932927 Damn we might actually finish this. I say just keep looking for appropriate fillers and afterwards debate shifting positions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:10:15 2018 No.11933849 File: 68 KB, 696x674, Mr._McGregor_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] S 45 D 35 Mr. McGregor

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:16:01 2018 No.11933879 >>11930511 There are a lot of good people in this one to use

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:21:46 2018 No.11933908 >>11933879 Too many literal whos

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:23:03 2018 No.11933918 File: 124 KB, 765x765, 6C0A672D-E951-4497-ABED-0ED8036CD3D7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11932927 Clifford Lee Sargent S 20 D 80

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:23:09 2018 No.11933919 >>11933908 Does that term mean anything other than "I don't recognize it so it's bad"?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:24:13 2018 No.11933923 File: 172 KB, 900x900, 6E83117C-822B-48B7-858F-34856B73F0A6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11932927 Gregory B. Sadler S 40 D 5

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:29:32 2018 No.11933940 >>11933923 What has he written?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:30:34 2018 No.11933942 >>11933919 Let OP make it dude. We have too many people trying to add their own shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:31:36 2018 No.11933950 File: 27 KB, 333x499, B15F1B63-3416-4389-A870-C0C79840C4E2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11933940

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:32:17 2018 No.11933954 >>11933942 What does that have to do with anything? I'm not the one who made that one chart, I was just asking about the term

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:35:25 2018 No.11933962 File: 791 KB, 1500x1000, 1535427220560.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11932927 65, 15?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:35:38 2018 No.11933964 >>11933954 We are making a chart where people know who everyone is on it. Once you start adding obscure figures you ruin the purpose

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:36:40 2018 No.11933971 >>11933962 No.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:37:56 2018 No.11933977 >>11933971 why

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:38:44 2018 No.11933980 >>11933977 She's a meme and not a real author.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:39:55 2018 No.11933984 >>11933980 there are several memes on the chart.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:41:10 2018 No.11933992 >>11933918 I've never seen him brought up on this board, but why does he deserve to suffer?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 20:48:22 2018 No.11934035 >>11933992 He is an edgelord attention seeker whose favorite book is Story of the Eye

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 21:02:39 2018 No.11934119 >>11934035 Okay, so you don't have a reason. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 21:58:57 2018 No.11934453 bump

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 22:13:03 2018 No.11934558
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>>11933626
That version is so old what the fuck. Just use this version, you people probably don't have much else you can think of anyway
>>11933964
liberal democracy is anti-/lit/ you may as well flip the entire chart and go back to /leftypol/ shitposting

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 22:17:00 2018 No.11934584 >>11934558 This chart is retarded nonsense. >>11932927 THIS is the latest real version.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 22:34:30 2018 No.11934709 >>11934558 Fuck off with this chart you retard. No one knows any of those people

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 22:36:30 2018 No.11934726 >>11934709 There are a lot of essential people from /lit/ classics on it. Slothrop, Oedipa, Siddhartha, Novalis, Lolita. There are some I am not sure about but they aren't that obscure

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 22:40:57 2018 No.11934759 >>11934558 We should just complete this one and then change it after if anyone has anything better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 22:44:41 2018 No.11934784 >>11934759 No because the fag's been changing around and deleting a bunch of shit without asking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 22:45:01 2018 No.11934785 >>11934726 >Slothrop, Oedipa, Novalis Literally who?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 22:46:05 2018 No.11934791 >>11934784 Then change it back. It's easier to do that then remove everything

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 22:46:55 2018 No.11934796 >>11934726 u know novalis was an actual dude and not a character right

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 22:47:47 2018 No.11934800 >>11934791 It's not so easy willy-nilly because then you have to re-arrange or decide who to delete in it's place and it ends up being a bigger mess.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 22:48:58 2018 No.11934805 >>11934800 What big contentions are there?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 22:50:21 2018 No.11934809 >>11934805 There are literally too many for me to tell you, it's a fucking mess.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 22:55:13 2018 No.11934829 >>11934809 It's going to be a mess either way. Look at /his/ and /mu/'s, theirs is even worse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 22:58:48 2018 No.11934847 >>11934829 It doesn't have to be so, though. If you're gonna go with this chart we need major revision discussion, like multiple threads worth (which /a/ did so we'd be capable of too).

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 23:09:19 2018 No.11934900 >>11934847 We should do marx :^)

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 23:10:52 2018 No.11934906 >>11934900 Honestly move him to 100D because he caused more deaths than anyone in history.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 23:10:58 2018 No.11934908 >>11934900 I agree, the guy's responsible for such atrocity 100D row doesn't even fit him. Him and Satan should have a special 105D

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 23:19:38 2018 No.11934944
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Added dudes from Waiting for Godot, Gatsby,
Patriach of the Buenos family from 100 Years of Solitude

>>11934906
>>11934908
Moved Marx for causing over 60 million deaths through his niavity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 23:21:30 2018 No.11934954 >>11934944 christ these fucking duplicates. I'm not gonna tell you what they are either, find them yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 23:23:18 2018 No.11934969 >>11934954 Duplicates are fine for now. We can easily just replace them later

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 23:31:28 2018 No.11935006 File: 1.31 MB, 2199x2163, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Added Hal, the Idiot, the boy from Death in Venice. Moved Althusser the literal murderer over right. Moved Rimbaud over and switched with McCarthy

Anonymous Sun Oct 14 23:52:40 2018 No.11935081
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>>11935006
>Celine at 70 deserving

He can seem like a harsh guy if you aren't familiar with him but he was actually a really compassionate dude. His distrust of humans came from the fact that he was around in a time where millions would die in pointless wars and suffered a lot in the trenches of WW1. He turned to animals when people failed him and even claimed he would willingly sacrifice his own life just to save a scraggly old cat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 23:53:27 2018 No.11935084 >>11935006 This is unsalvagable. I'm out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 23:56:25 2018 No.11935102 >>11935006 Who's at 50 80 and 90 100?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 14 23:57:59 2018 No.11935118 File: 1.31 MB, 2199x2163, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11935081 I think that is fair. It's too politically biased to put him too far right anyway. >>11935102 50 80 is Zeus's father Cronus. Don't know 90 100

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 00:06:07 2018 No.11935152 >>11935084 No one who is complaining is giving any constructive criticism as to what to change.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 00:08:27 2018 No.11935168 File: 8 KB, 210x240, sappho.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ?where?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 00:10:25 2018 No.11935176 >>11935168 50s 25d?

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 00:22:56 2018 No.11935242

>>11935152
The problem is that everybody thinks the character they came up with belongs at one of the corners, so those fill up, and when new characters are thought up they just get shoved in a random empty square. The deserved axis is obviously pretty subjective, but the suffered axis that should be slightly more objective ends up putting people who lived through WWII PoW camps at a third of the suffering of people who were just sad

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 00:36:40 2018 No.11935286 File: 1.33 MB, 2199x2163, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Added Toadvine, Sappo, Japanese British dude, Franzen, Oblomov, Icycalm, Diaz. Fixed Deleuze

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 00:37:42 2018 No.11935290 >>11935242 Most people will probably realize that. There isn't any other way to fill up the chart and still use the people that people know about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:06:32 2018 No.11935412 >>11934558 What is that thing at 45,10?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:15:44 2018 No.11935432 File: 1.37 MB, 2199x2163, almostdone.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Added Grand Inquisitor, Cohen, Watts, Bernard, Gandalf, Gaddis, Pnin, Dune worm >>11933918 Added What should we put in the final spots?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:19:11 2018 No.11935442 >>11935432 How come we have both George and Lennie (80, 30) and Lennie by himself (30, 25)?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:20:29 2018 No.11935446 >>11935442 Which one should we remove? Should we change the one to George?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:29:12 2018 No.11935474 >>11935432 What a wild ride...Plato Aristotle?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:32:01 2018 No.11935486 >>11935474 Aquinas, Parmenides, Heraclitus, Hesiod, Emerson, Buber? Some options

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:32:03 2018 No.11935488 File: 1.38 MB, 2199x2163, COMPLETE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Added some of the meme chicks, vonnegut, kobe abe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:35:09 2018 No.11935501 >>11935488 disgusting it's finally over we didn't even add plato or aristotle LOL

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:35:55 2018 No.11935504 >>11935486 >>11935501 Heraclitus is there. We could add Plato and Aristotle. Where should they be?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:40:47 2018 No.11935513 >>11935504 probably bottom left somewhere i'd be pretty ok replacing that ugly mongrel at 5 15

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:41:23 2018 No.11935516 >>11935513 You mean Bilbo Baggins?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:42:15 2018 No.11935520 >>11935516 oh I feel like he suffered more than winnie the pooh though lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:42:26 2018 No.11935521 >>11935488 corncob is there twice... 80S 45D and 80S 65D

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:43:18 2018 No.11935527 >>11928147 I assume that's Satan at far top-right, in which case this thing is clearly bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:44:43 2018 No.11935534 File: 1.38 MB, 2199x2163, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11935513 >>11935504 Plato and Aristotle

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:46:41 2018 No.11935542 >>11935534 Who'd you replace?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:47:14 2018 No.11935547 >>11935527 >The lord of evil and cause of mans fall from grace is a good boy, he didn't do nuthin!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:48:18 2018 No.11935549 >>11935542 No idea. Some meme cartoon and some ugly mongrel

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 01:52:21 2018 No.11935565 >>11935534 rip thoreau yeah replace one of the cormacs, probably the right one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:01:15 2018 No.11935586 File: 1.38 MB, 2199x2163, 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11935565 It's Aquinas now

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:03:42 2018 No.11935590

>>11935547

God-as-described is an asshole who is undeserving of worship. It's true that some of these are contradictory and un-biblical, but the rhetoric is still useful. only stupid people believe that god exists, is-as-described in the historical traditions handed down, is justified, and is good. The only morally correct approach with any meaning is to reject god.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:04:59 2018 No.11935594 >>11935590 This is Paradise Lost we are talking about. The John Milton book

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:08:11 2018 No.11935602 >>11935586 well that's all I can think of. all the leftists got moved to right again but at least it's spiting that /lefty/ shitposter. top lel

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:10:06 2018 No.11935608 >Marx at 100 I'd be against this if it didn't drive that one guy up a wall.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:10:30 2018 No.11935611

other suspect elements at far top-right: Joseph Smith, Emil Cioran, what might be Debord, I dunno, and the alien-thingy (Xenu?!) I seem to notice Trotsky. As an actual political actor, Trotsky richly deserved his suffering far more than almost all of these fictional characters. In fact, I fail to find a better candidate for extreme top-right than Trotsky at the moment. Most of the rest of these guy are just bitter guy who wrote some stuff and killed (or organized to have-killed, don't be cute on this point) a person or two. Not so Trotsky.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:11:34 2018 No.11935614 >>11935594 Pray, how is the relevant character there described? I haven't been. I don't imagine it goes well for him.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:12:52 2018 No.11935623

>>11935608
Even ignoring that his ideology killed people in the billions he was a pretty scummy person IRL. He would rather spend his time writing pointless papers then making money to feed his own family and his children died because of it. He straight out attacks peoples characters in his writings.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:15:35 2018 No.11935629

>>11935614
It's actually kind of weird, he almost seems like the main character that we are supposed to feel sorry for but apparently he is just being prideful which is the sin he was condemned for. It describes his torture as being the worst thing ever but Pandemonium seems pretty comfy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:27:54 2018 No.11935655 File: 1.39 MB, 2199x2163, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Added Mariner from Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Charon, Jesus

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:29:43 2018 No.11935662 >>11935655 Who is 90S 100D?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:36:11 2018 No.11935674 >>11935655 There are two Gaddis's. 20 5, 35 30

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:36:16 2018 No.11935675 >>11930999 why is Celine so far to the right? are people really mad he hated the Third Republic that much?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:37:12 2018 No.11935679 >>11935675 It got carried over from the leftist chart. We had to fix it to be politically neutral.

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:37:22 2018 No.11935681

>>11935662

I think it's Debord but I'm not sure. Poor form, this graphic. Yes, about half-2/3s are immediately understood, but the remainder are not. /mu/ has long since mastered the art of the large visual meme-table, /lit/ posters would do well to check in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:40:44 2018 No.11935688 >>11935681 Looks like a woman. Debord is at 40S 80D

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 02:41:52 2018 No.11935689 Anyone have a template?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 03:42:17 2018 No.11935856 File: 15 KB, 500x303, breaking-up-and-moving-on-quotes-breaking-up-and-moving-on-quotes-sad-little-winnie-the-pooh-reminds-me-of-mia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11935520 Nonce.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 04:01:17 2018 No.11935902 >>11935655 Double Eliot: 75-45 and 10-85 Double Tolstoy: 85-50 and 85-80 Double Buber: 65-40 and 60-80

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 04:03:03 2018 No.11935905 >>11935902 Who can we put in their stead?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 04:07:37 2018 No.11935912 >>11935655 why did cioran do to deserve it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 04:13:06 2018 No.11935920 >>11935912 Apparently: be a guy who survived war and lived quietly without bothering anyone who did not want to be bothered, writiing his thoughts down.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 04:23:45 2018 No.11935948 File: 7 KB, 99x99, shirley-jacksonjpg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11935902 >>11935905 Change out the duplicate at 65S 40D for Shirley Jackson.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 04:50:11 2018 No.11935997 >>11935948 Who the F is Shirley Jackson?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 04:56:44 2018 No.11936005 >>11935655 >jesus >deserved

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 04:59:56 2018 No.11936011

>>11935997
Awards and honors
1944 – Best American Short Stories 1944: "Come Dance with Me in Ireland"
1949 – O. Henry Prize Stories 1949: "The Lottery"
1951 – Best American Short Stories 1951: "The Summer People"
1956 – Best American Short Stories 1956: "One Ordinary Day, with Peanuts"
1959 – New York Times Book Review's "Best Fiction of 1959" includes The Haunting of Hill House
1960 – National Book Award nomination: The Haunting of Hill House
1961 – Mystery Writers of America Edgar Allan Poe Award for Best Short Story: "Louisa, Please Come Home"
1962 – Time magazine's "Ten Best Novels" of the year includes We Have Always Lived in the Castle
1964 – Best American Short Stories 1964: "Birthday Party"
1966 – Mystery Writers of America Edgar Allan Poe Award for Best Short Story: "The Possibility of Evil"
1966 – New York Times Book Review's "Best Fiction of 1966" includes The Magic of Shirley Jackson
1968 – New York Times Book Review's "Best Fiction of 1968" includes Come Along with Me
2007 – The Shirley Jackson Award is established for outstanding achievement in the literature of psychological suspense, horror, and the dark fantastic

Novels
The Road Through the Wall (1948)
Hangsaman (1951)
The Bird's Nest (1954)
The Sundial (1958)
The Haunting of Hill House (1959)
We Have Always Lived in the Castle (1962)

Collections
The Lottery and Other Stories (Farrar, Straus, 1949)
The Magic of Shirley Jackson (ed. Stanley Edgar Hyman; Farrar, Straus, 1966)
Come Along with Me: Part of a Novel, Sixteen Stories, and Three Lectures (ed. Stanley Edgar Hyman; Viking, 1968)
Just an Ordinary Day (ed. Laurence & Sarah Hyman; Bantam, 1995)
Shirley Jackson: Novels & Stories (ed. Joyce Carol Oates; Library of America, 2010)
Let Me Tell You: New Stories, Essays, and Other Writings (ed. Laurence & Sarah Hyman; Random House, 2015)
Dark Tales (Penguin, 2016)

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 05:00:58 2018 No.11936013

>>11935997
Short stories
"About Two Nice People", Ladies' Home Journal, July 1951
"Account Closed", Good Housekeeping, April 1950
"After You, My Dear Alphonse", The New Yorker, January 1943
"Afternoon in Linen", The New Yorker, September 4, 1943
"All the Girls Were Dancing", Collier's, November 11, 1950
"All She Said Was Yes", Vogue, November 1, 1962
"Alone in a Den of Cubs", Woman's Day, December 1953
"Aunt Gertrude", Harper's, April 1954
"The Bakery", Peacock Alley, November 1944
"Birthday Party", Vogue, January 1, 1963
"The Box", Woman's Home Companion, November 1952
"Bulletin", The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, March 1954
"The Bus", The Saturday Evening Post, March 27, 1965
"Call Me Ishmael", Spectre, Fall 1939
"A Cauliflower in Her Hair", Mademoiselle, December 1944
"Charles", Mademoiselle, July 1948
"The Clothespin Dolls", Woman's Day, March 1953
"Colloquy", The New Yorker, August 5, 1944
"Come Dance with Me in Ireland", The New Yorker, May 15, 1943
"Concerning … Tomorrow", Syracusan, March 1939
"The Daemon Lover ['The Phantom Lover']", Woman's Home Companion, February 1949
"Daughter, Come Home", Charm, May 1944
"Day of Glory", Woman's Day, February 1953
"Dinner for a Gentleman," Shirley Jackson: A Rather Haunted Life, September 2016
"Don’t Tell Daddy", Woman's Home Companion, February 1954
"Every Boy Should Learn to Play the Trumpet", Woman's Home Companion, October 1956
"Family Magician", Woman's Home Companion, September 1949
"A Fine Old Firm", The New Yorker, March 4, 1944
"The First Car Is the Hardest", Harper's, February 1952
"The Friends", Charm, November 1953
"The Gift", Charm, December 1944
"A Great Voice Stilled", Playboy, March 1960
"Had We But World Enough", Spectre, Spring 1940
"Happy Birthday to Baby", Charm, November 1952
"Home", Ladies' Home Journal, August 1965
"The Homecoming", Charm, April 1945
"The House", Woman's Day, May 1952
"I Don't Kiss Strangers", Just an Ordinary Day (Bantam, 1995)
"Indians Live In Tents," Just An Ordinary Day (Bantam, 1995)
"An International Incident", The New Yorker, September 12, 1943
"I.O.U"., Just an Ordinary Day (Bantam, 1995)
"The Island", New Mexico Quarterly Review, 1950, vol. 3
"It Isn’t the Money", The New Yorker, August 25, 1945
"It's Only a Game", Harper's, May 1956
"Journey with a Lady", Harper's, July 1952
"Liaison a la Cockroach", Syracusan, April 1939
"Little Dog Lost", Charm, October 1943
"A Little Magic", Woman's Home Companion, January 1956
"Little Old Lady", Mademoiselle, September 1944
"The Lottery", The New Yorker, June 26, 1948

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 05:01:59 2018 No.11936015

>>11935997
"Louisa, Please Come Home", Ladies' Home Journal, May 1960
"The Lovely Night", Collier's, April 8, 1950
"Lucky to Get Away", Woman's Day, August 1953
"The Man in the Woods", The New Yorker, April 28, 2014
"Men with Their Big Shoes", Yale Review, March 1947
"The Missing Girl", The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, December 1957
"Monday Morning", Woman's Home Companion, November 1951
"The Most Wonderful Thing", Good Housekeeping, June 1952
"Mother Is a Fortune Hunter", Woman's Home Companion, May 1954
"Mrs. Melville Makes a Purchase", Charm, October 1951
"My Friend", Syracusan, December 1938
"My Life in Cats", Spectre, Summer 1940
"My Life with R.H. Macy", The New Republic, December 22, 1941
"My Son and the Bully", Good Housekeeping, October 1949
"Nice Day for a Baby", Woman's Home Companion, July 1952
"Night We All Had Grippe", Harper's, January 1952
"Nothing to Worry About", Charm, July 1953
"The Omen", The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, March 1958
"On the House", The New Yorker, October 30, 1943
"One Last Chance to Call", McCall's, April 1956
"One Ordinary Day, With Peanuts", The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, January 1955
"The Order of Charlotte's Going", Charm, July 1954
"Pillar of Salt", Mademoiselle, October 1948
"The Possibility of Evil", The Saturday Evening Post, December 18, 1965
"Queen of the May", McCall's, April 1955
"The Renegade", Harper's, November 1949
"Root of Evil", Fantastic, March–April 1953
"The Second Mrs. Ellenoy", Reader's Digest, July 1953
"Seven Types of Ambiguity", Story, 1943
"Shopping Trip", Woman's Home Companion, June 1953
"The Smoking Room", Just an Ordinary Day (Bantam, 1995)
"The Sneaker Crisis", Woman's Day, October 1956
"So Late on Sunday Morning", Woman's Home Companion, September 1953
"The Strangers", Collier's, May 10, 1952
"Strangers in Town", The Saturday Evening Post, May 30, 1959
"Summer Afternoon", Just an Ordinary Day (Bantam, 1995)
"The Summer People", Charm, 1950
"The Third Baby's the Easiest", Harper's, May 1949
"The Tooth", The Hudson Review, 1949, vol. 1, no. 4
"Trial by Combat", The New Yorker, December 16, 1944
"The Very Strange House Next Door", Just an Ordinary Day (Bantam, 1995)
"The Villager", The American Mercury, August 1944
"Visions of Sugarplums", Woman's Home Companion, December 1952
"When Things Get Dark", The New Yorker, December 30, 1944
"Whistler's Grandmother", The New Yorker, May 5, 1945
"The Wishing Dime", Good Housekeeping, September 1949
"Worldly Goods", Woman's Day, May 1953
"Y and I", Syracusan, October 1938
"Y and I and the Ouija Board", Syracusan, November 1938
"The Witch", 1949

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 05:06:11 2018 No.11936019 File: 1.38 MB, 2199x2163, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11936015 >>11936013 >>11936011 I added her

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 05:25:21 2018 No.11936057 File: 342 KB, 476x401, 4fHYLz1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11936011 >>11936013 >>11936015

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 05:26:56 2018 No.11936058 File: 1.38 MB, 2199x2163, hot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ok it's done. Let the thread archive from here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 05:31:59 2018 No.11936061 >>11936058 Two Vonneguts

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 05:57:20 2018 No.11936106 Is Borges on it? Remove Clifford and some of those comics and bugs

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 06:06:52 2018 No.11936123 File: 1.36 MB, 2199x2163, e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11936106 Removed some of the comics and memes in favor of adding more literary figures. Will add them back if people actually want them

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 06:16:46 2018 No.11936143 >>11936123 Why is Varg (15S 40D) on here? Ignoring the totally inaccurate placement, he has nothing to do with literature.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 06:16:49 2018 No.11936144 >>11935486 There was two bubers

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 06:18:03 2018 No.11936145 >>11936143 He has 15 books published thank you very much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 06:21:43 2018 No.11936154 >>11936145 His "books" appear to be role-playing game guides. His popularity on /pol/ does not warrant inclusion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 06:22:20 2018 No.11936156 >>11936154 He was requested twice

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 06:28:16 2018 No.11936170 File: 1.36 MB, 2199x2163, 22.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 06:59:41 2018 No.11936231 Nabokov did 9/11. Move him to the right

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 07:18:34 2018 No.11936263 Where is Spengler?

Anonymous Mon Oct 15 08:11:40 2018 No.11936377
File: 1.35 MB, 2199x2163, aaaaaa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>11936263
OP here, I've added all the actual /lit/ references posted since I left, in which the chart has been left in the hands of absolute dregs who have taken it upon themselves to add a bunch of literal whos.

They chart was meant to be a collaboration of people's recommendations, not a fuckfest of "oh I'll add 20 gregory berrycones and his dog" by myself.

Here is the new chart.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 08:25:42 2018 No.11936424 >>11936377 Yeah, the other fuck’s chart is an unsalvagable mess. With this we can at least determine some reasonable additions and changes as we go.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 15 08:40:32 2018 No.11936463 >>11936424 >>11936377 New thread >>11936460 >>11936460 >>11936460 >>11936460

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