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Thoughts?

>> No.11924755

>>11924745
A pretty boring and dated read with a few moments of profound thought. Dialogue form is also pretty stale when it consists entirely out of yes-men.

Thank God this has paved the road for Aristotle's Politics, which is one of the deepest works in political philosophy ever written.

>> No.11924756

>>11924745

Yes, there are many, many thoughts in there

>> No.11924770

dude justice lmao

>> No.11924826

it's fascism cis scum

>>11924770
I need to reread the part where socrates talks about "justice being a thief''

>> No.11924838

>>11924745
pretty woke.

>> No.11924873
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>>11924745
It was alright for me
some boring when the discourse pertaining the roles of guardians and there state. but some intersting parts i.e. interesting on justice, the education of philosophers/rulers part, the cave, role of women and so on just the pages from 100-220 starts getting good... seems like hit and miss for me

>> No.11925415

>>11924745
>"Yo we need ta make a republic an shiet"
10/10

>> No.11925444

I have a problem with the whole idea of needing noble lies for society function, indeed, needing noble lies for even something as essential as justice to exist.

It seems peculiar that one of our greatest thinkers thought it was necessary to construct something that was untrue in order for society to work. Such a society seems by definition unstable and prone to corruption.

>> No.11925459
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11925459

Ὁμοίοις χρῶ

>> No.11926881

did anyone understand the part with the maths

>> No.11927176

>>11925444
Nothing about the content of the "noble lie" is said to be false, the only falsity is in the mode of expression of the truth it is to convey. If you warn a child about entering a dark alleyway by telling him that monsters are hiding there, at the end of the day you are teaching him something truthful.

>> No.11927185

>a bunch of rich white dudes whine to eachother about meaningless bullshit
yawn

>> No.11927382

Some really good parts, love when they talk about Forms and the Divided Line, Cave, etc.
But everything else was a struggle to get through, took me months to finish simply because I could barely make it through 10 pages a day without my mind wandering off

I love all his other dialogues, but for a larger work I think Aristotles way of writing is better

>> No.11927392
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11927392

>strawman: the book

althernatively, pic related: the book

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the enlightened beings choice of political philosophy

>> No.11928308

>>11924745
The republic is enormous.Could you be more specific in what you want to discuss

>> No.11929248

>>11928308
The book

>> No.11929280

>>11925444
it kind of compliments the allegory of the cave for a society to be built on lies though

>> No.11929296

>>11924755
Nice pasta.
But still, this place somehow manages to outpseud itself by the day.