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11913788 No.11913788 [Reply] [Original]

>Half a chapter is taken up by purpley prose horseshit about the beauty of the sunlight reflecting off an ornate clock or someshit and an argument between a character and a doctor who gives jewish people nosejobs.

I don't understand why does /lit/ like this guy again.

>> No.11913799
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>>11913788

>> No.11913867

The Pinch really did a number on my psyche depicting the nosejob

>> No.11913889

>>11913788
That chapter was great. Every single part of that book which takes place in New York is spectacular.

>> No.11913904

>not wanting to be a part of the Whole Sick Crew
baka desu senpai

>> No.11913908

his best book, stay pleb

>> No.11913926

>>11913799
If wasn't so pretentious I would appreciate verbose sections of some canon shit? Shouldn't it be the inverse, i.e only the pretentious appreciate the verbose.

>> No.11914045

>>11913926
He wrote this in his early 20s, he was practically a kid and managed to debut a novel better than most authors could ever dream of as their magnum opus

>> No.11915308

V ain't that great. Checkout Gravity's Rainbow.

>> No.11915573

I loved the hell out of V. but I couldn't get into Gravity's Rainbow.

>> No.11915643

>>11913788
The nosejob stuff is great though.

>> No.11916175

>>11913799
I was the OP of this, and to this day I am convinced Pinecone Senpai noticed me. Best /lit/ day ever

>> No.11916183
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What's the best chapter and why is it Mondaugen's Story?

>> No.11916219

>>11913788

I've always wanted to like Pynchon but the very word-to-word mechanics of his prose lack music to my ears. I don't know why. His rhythms are always just so unappealing. Almost banal. I want to love his work because I can recognise the talent at work in Gravity's Rainbow, but the sentences themselves are just so jarring.

>> No.11916232

>>11914045
early 20s isn't being a kid if you've been focusing on literature a lot like Pynchy did.

>> No.11916246

>>11916183
She Hangs on the Western Wall**

>> No.11916334

>>11916183
>not V. in Love

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>> No.11916901

>>11916183
The part when the girl fucks her car

>> No.11917140

>>11913788
They aren't particularly long chapters, chief, calm down.

>> No.11918212

>>11917140
the shorter the better's what I always say!

>> No.11918346

>>11916334
Ouchy!

>> No.11918370

>>11918346
Aye, balls jumped up a mile on those last few pages.

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>>11918346

>> No.11918549

>benny profane chapter
read
>stencil chapter
skip!!!

>> No.11918565

>>11918549
The Profane chapters are just unaired episodes of The Simpsons.

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>>11918565
Huh.

>> No.11918586

>>11918565
i started to write out some profane passages in greentext to refute you but the longer i thought about it i came to agree

>> No.11918607

>>11916183
my favorite chapter too. great to see the parallel between the present and the past

>> No.11918728

>>11918549
benny chapters were amazing, i wish the entire book had been about him desu

>> No.11919419

btw what was the deal with constantly mentioning big noses and weak chins? i didn't get that part

>> No.11919438

>>11919419
[spoiler/]a central theme of the book is how people are treated as inaminate objects, to the point that their bodies become inanimate or artificial. the part where the pilot has his face rebuilt with spare parts or whatever it was explains everything. when esther gets her nose job it begins (or accelerates) the process of her becoming inanimate.

>> No.11920016

>>11919438
other anon here
ohhh, nice. I mean I noticed that theme with Bongo-Shaftsbury, that guy who invented that underskin TV switch and V. herself, but I didn't draw the plastic surgeries into this. Then again, Benny Profane the human yo-yo also fits there, the tourists being described as part of the landscape of the Baedekerland, and the theme inverted with SHROUD
I feel closer to understanding

>> No.11920642

>>11918370
Yeah, that was an amazing chapter- the actual V. stuff from the Italian hotel courtyard through Africa house to her dismantling (howsoever staggered) is what's stayed with me, as well as the frankly amazing conclusion. In a weird way I think I fell in love with her, or wanted to.

>> No.11920704

>>11919438
i did pick up on that central theme but just didn't make the connection until you said it.

thanks anon.

>> No.11921486

>>11919438
The corrolary is that inanimate objects are becoming animate, or more and more alive..

>> No.11922652

>>11913788
The suggestion here is that this section is not an integer of (what ought to be) the novel's wholeness, or that it might have been left out without injuring the novel's integrity?

>> No.11922731

why cant i find a copy of this with a decent cover

>> No.11922780
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>>11922731
Just condition yourself into liking the Picador cover.

>> No.11922818 [DELETED] 

>>11922780
Any cover which doesn't have the full stop/period after V is really annoying. One reason being that the first 16 chapters follow a chiastic structure like a V and the epilogue corresponds to the full stop after it.

>> No.11922841

>>11922780
I've seen that cover in a charity bookstore, it has a certain charm to it. But any cover that doesn't have the full stop/period after the V is really annoying...

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>>11922841
Saw this on sale at a Used Bookstore today

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>>11922841
But this is the one I own

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>>11922841
I have this one and it kind of sucks. The original is the only one I've seen so far that I genuinely liked

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>>11922731
>>11923176
this one is pretty decent