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Any good books about having so much love to give and yet nobody wants to receive it? Books about want a gf but never being able to get one. Books with a tone of idealistic melancholy.

>cynical stuff preoccupied with stuffing your gland up a vagina doesn't count. No French incel meme lord here please
>if the protagonist has gotten laid or has had a girlfriend or has had somebody interested in him, it doesn't count
>preferably not just one case of unrequited love but multiple

Does any book like this exist? Asking for a friend.

>> No.11901999

>>11901960
People in that position haven't a conception of what love is. They hardly know a stomach ache from a tooth ache they're so unfamiliar.

>> No.11902044

>>11901960
no book about such feels has ever been nor ever will be written, because if one was an effective enough human being to engage in the sacrifice and devotion required to author a piece of literature worthy of remarks, that person wouldn't possess such selfish pseudo-selfless feels.

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11902048

>>11901999
Shut up, I know what love is

>> No.11902067

http://religionconfidencetrick.blogspot.com/2014/06/unnatural-selection.html

>> No.11902068

>>11902044
Explain

>> No.11902083

>>11901960
don't try to distinguish yourself from the masses, admit that you are aiming for the sweet joy of the pussy, then you can go on explore your feeling, it's not like you are gonna do a girl any bad if you want to fuck her really hard, they probably would enjoy it too

don't be one of these guys, I hate when someone doesn't take the initial step to admit that he's after sex in the first place, wanting sex doesn't exclude love, I hate when I make a remark to a friend that he wants to fuck a girl and he's like "no, no, no, it's not like that!"

>> No.11902169

>>11902083
I want love through the prism of sex

>> No.11902184

>>11902083
>>11902169
i joke with my friends around the idea of the desire for sex and 'love' being completely part of the human physiological program and nothing more. when i actually do flirt with this theme it just baits my own vulnerability which i guess is cool, sometimes

>> No.11902213

>>11902184
You sound really kool

>> No.11902234

>>11902213
i've burned all my bridges. i have no friends

>> No.11902305

>>11902068
basically autistic nerds should kill themselves because they're worthless. Their struggles are unimportant.

>> No.11902321

>>11902305
half of the western canon was written by autistic nerds.

>> No.11902567

>>11902321
reading anecdotes about wittgenstein's life makes me wonder if his ponders were worth it

>> No.11902829

>>11901960
read dharma bums and fuck boipussi

>> No.11902933

>>11902044
you contradict yourself

>> No.11902940

>>11901960
>not a single recommendation
Christ we really are a bunch of pseuds aren't we?

>> No.11902948

>>11901960
>>if the protagonist has gotten laid
What if the protagonist only frequents whores? Is he still forever alone?

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>>11901960
put aside your passive aggressive misogyny and read this.

>> No.11902966

>>11901960
you have no love to give but to yourself you narcissist. there's no book to recommend because anyone smart enough to write a book is past the phase your in by the time they start writing their first serious work

>> No.11902976

>>11901960
Notes from Underground

>> No.11903000
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>>11901960
Here some anon posted this in a similar thread.

>Welcome to the NHK
A quick read and probably the most accurate, true to life book about depressed socially isolated losers in the modern age ever written. Anime is also decent.
>No Longer Human
A book about someone who, despite his ability to socialize with others, never feels connected to humanity. It’s Semi-autobiographical and chronicals the slow spiraling path to the authors unfortunate conclusion.
>Notes From The Underground
A book by Dostoyevsky himself. It’s his take on the pseudo-intellectual, socially isolated auristic hermit type character. Definitely very relatable and worth taking a look at.
>Flowers For Algernon
A mentally deficient adult man gets to be part of a special new operation that could possibly exponentially increase his intelligence. Charts his growth as an individual. Don’t wanna spoil it but there are some parts where you’ll be jelly of him, some where you’ll heavily relate to him and others where you’ll just feel plain bad.
>100 Years of Solitude
This one is a bit different than the other books but it’s still quite sad in its own way. It covers a couple generations of a single family and takes you through all the ups and downs, from the founding of cities to the waging of wars. At the heart of it all though is the dwindling humanity of the characters.
I’ve also been meaning to read more comics lately so I’ll rec some of those as well.
>Goodnight PunPun
Oof. Read this if you haven’t, super super dark and depressing. Inio Asano is a legit master and he executes this perfectly by combining his realistic art with Surrealistic story telling elements. It’s all done in a hyper realistic style while the main character is a simple doodle. Just from looking at the art you can tell how disconnected he is from the world around him. The story covers his growth from adolescence to young adulthood and every single one of his failures along the way, of which they are many.
>How to be Happy
Pic related. Just read this one recently. It’s a collection of short stories, some are sad others aren’t. You could probably finish the book in an hour or two and it has lots of good stuff. Definitely worth giving a look.
>Ressentiment
This one is more of a fun read. It’s still good but I wouldn’t consider it quite as “literary” as the other ones. It’s about, you guessed it, a middle aged ugly lonely loser. He starts playing this VR game and gets heavily involved in it, meets a ai waifu, etc. pretty fun stuff.
>My Friend Dahmer
This was written by a friend of Jeffrey Dahmer’s, that’s right the serial killer. It’s mostly true to life and quite sad. It goes over how isolated and lonely Dahmer was, all the wierd shit he did in high school, his sad home life, lack of supervision, alcholholism

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>>11903000
2/2
>Hit the limit, off the top of my head that’s every thing. Also I’m currently reading another comic called “Beta Testing The Apocolypse” (pic related) and I’m not too far into it yet but it seems promising. It’s got some depressive overtones while also blending it with this surreal weirdness. I’d give it a look.
Anyways, hopefully That was helpful.

>> No.11903005

>>11903000
Thanks based trips guy

>> No.11903009

>>11903000
dahmer was a virgin?

>> No.11903026

>>11903009
>>11903009
I'm pretty sure he was, at least in HS. He had no friends at all except for the author's friend group and they weren't ever truly his friends. There's even a scene where a large group of kids gather at the mall and convince Dahmer to do some autistic shit in public so they can have a laugh. He was a huge loser. It's possible that he lost his virginity after high school though, I'm not sure. I'd recommend the book too, it's pretty good.

>> No.11903052

>>11903000
>his take on the pseudo-intellectual,
The first half of NFU is a refutation of the romantic utopianism that was popular in 19th century Europe. Dostoyevsky isn't merely being sarcastic. It's arealistic view of dark human psychology. He makes a very strong argument in my opinion and if you think it's pseudointellectualism you should reread the book.

>> No.11903055

>>11901960
>having so much love to give and yet nobody wants to receive it?
Doubt.png

>> No.11903062

>>11901960
Ik Marvel's Reveries of a Bachelor.

>> No.11903067

>>11903052
He's saying the character is ultimately a psued not the book itself. Of course it conveys very real and dark themes and of course it presents very convincing arguments but the underground man isn't supposed to be some sort of genius intellectual.

>> No.11903148

>>11903067
What is an intellectual? A pseudointellectual is someone only pretending to be intellectual. Just because his arguments are flawed doesn't make him a pseudo. You don't have to be a genius to be an intellectual. Nietzsche had said he was very much influenced by the ideas put forth by Dostoyevsky's unreliable narrators so I don't think it's so easy to dismiss Raskolnikov and Underground Man like they were just a joke.

People who throw around the word pseudointellectual carelessly are the most pseudo people.

>> No.11903163

>>11903026
>It's possible that he lost his virginity after high school
He was a serial rapist.

>> No.11903183

>>11902044
>selfish pseudo-selfless
You're trying WAYYYYY too hard, bud.

>> No.11903191

>>11902829
Wait hold on did Kerouac and Snyder fuck on that mountain???

>> No.11903199

>>11903163
Lol I know, I meant consensually. The dude was really strange but also very charismatic, tall, athletic and handsome so it’s possible that he found someone to bone before he completely lost it. I’m pretty sure the dude was a necrophiliac too so he was gonna lose it one way or another.

>> No.11903924

>>11903191
Yes

>> No.11904472

>>11903055
Why do you doubt?

>> No.11904478

>>11902948
That demonstrates a lack of self awareness and a tendency towards materialism so no.

>> No.11904480

>>11902958
How am I passive aggressive?

>>11902966
Stop samefagging

>> No.11904543
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>>11901960
This book may be worth reading, as it seems to fit the theme of a lonely protagonist who idealistically yearns for more meaning to his life. I recommend that you people read it.

>> No.11904602

>>11904472
People who are unloved are unloveable because they have no love. And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.

>> No.11904733

>>11901999
I wanna know what love is

>> No.11904925
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11904925

>>11901960
The Perks of Being a Wallflower

>> No.11904929

>>11903004
tried downloading it from internet, can't find any source. Is it not available on internet

>> No.11904942

>>11901960
>Books about want a gf but never being able to get one

my diary senpai

>> No.11904976

>>11904480
>Stop samefagging
what? you sure you know what that word means?
extra question: do you know this website is 18+?

>> No.11905144

>>11904929
You could read it on comiXology unlimited, I’m pretty sure they have a 30 day free trial.

>> No.11905297

>>11904976
>literal NPC response
Are you a fucking not?

>> No.11905321

>>11904602
I love the Beatles but that lyric is facile nonsense. Just because you love doesn't mean it is always returned.

>> No.11905380

>>11904602
What a naive thought.
It’s pointless to give love and expecting love in return, not in our world. There is a chance, but it’s miserable.

>> No.11905464

>>11902958
That book isn't very good.

>> No.11905773

>>11901960
Unironically Don Quixote

>> No.11905807

>>11901960
White Nights

>> No.11906158

>>11901999

I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is

>> No.11906417

>>11903148
desu senpai

>> No.11906462

>>11905773
>>11905807
Actual suggestions. Thank you.

>> No.11906505

>>11904602
You're a huge faggot.

>> No.11906773

>>11901960
>having so much love to give and yet nobody wants to receive it?

Your problem is that you really have nothing to give, and you blame everyone but yourself. It isn't hard getting a gf, just stop being a fucking loser.

>> No.11906799

>>11906773
1. He said he has love to give
2. Most people like him blame themselves exclusively
3. just do it brah lmao” it isn’t that easy for everyone
Stop being such a fucking faggot for the love of god, putting the OP down for no reason other than to inflate your own ego. I hope you at least don’t think that you’re being helpful.

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11906830

>>11901999
This
>If you knew it and lost it you'd never be the same

>> No.11906889

The Gospel of Thomas.

>> No.11906906

>>11906799
>1. He said he has love to give

The love of a helpless infant for its mother is not love, it is helpless, hungry need.

OP is a void, stop feeding into it.

>> No.11906938

>>11906799
Love is a mutual thing. Everybody, in theory, has love to give. That is not valuable in itself, and it's more of a wish on OP's part than anything else

>> No.11907107

>>11906906
>>11906938
Everybody needs love. Do you think you're some kind god-men who are above these petty human needs? Do you have any idea what it's like to be raised in a loveless family? To have a mother who is incapable of loving you? Not OP, but I realize I'm a burden on society, neverless if I killed myself it would only cause more damage.

>> No.11907118

>>11901960
Just asking
Does The Sorrows of young Werther have this feels on it?
I want to read it to see if I kill myself already

>> No.11907227

>>11907118
Sort of. Werther has had a girl fall in love with him before the novel begins though.

>> No.11907233

>>11906906
Define love.

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>>11906938
>Love is a mutual thing

>> No.11908064

>>11906938
>Love is a mutual thing
It doesn't have to be

>> No.11909170

>>11906906
>The love of a helpless infant for its mother is not love, it is helpless, hungry need.
Is the PUA, chad or normalfag talking point? Ive seen this meme phrase a few times from somewhere but can't put my finger on it.

>> No.11909266

>>11906830
Based Dev poster