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[Anonymous No.11893317]

Is 27 too old to start reading philosophy?

[Anonymous No.11893321]

>>11893317
Yes, you will never ascend

[Anonymous No.11893331]

>>11893317
>27
GET A LOAD OF THIS OLD MAN HAHA! HE THINKS HE CAN READ AND GET A GF AND GET /FIT/ AT THE AGE OF 27!? GO DIE ALREADY!

[Anonymous No.11893334]

>>11893317
Shouldn't read philosophy until 30 or so. Warps young minds too much, especially with all of the certainty written into philosophy today.

[Anonymous No.11893335]

>>11893317
Get off the internet grandpa. I'm surprised you even figured out how to turn on your computer.

[Anonymous No.11893339]

>>11893317
Yes, if you didn’t start at least reading some entry level philosophy like Hegel and Schopenhauer by age 12 it’s too late for you. Obviously you can still read their work but you’ll never be able to connect with it or produce work on a similar level like I can.

[Anonymous No.11893351]

it's fucking OVER if you didn't attend seminars on Kant and Heidegger by middle school

[Anonymous No.11893354]

>12.2
do americans have any self-respect?

[Anonymous No.11893368]

>who is that old man sitting at the back of class
>OH MY GOD LMAO Is he actually a student?

[Anonymous No.11893375]

Yes, to go to school for it? Double yes

[Anonymous No.11893383]

>his mom didn't read hegel during pregnancy
lmao don't even try old man

[Anonymous No.11893410]

>>11893317
anon u lookin rough

[Anonymous No.11893412]

It is, the global elite were reading the Greeks starting at age 12 and received a top notch trivium education from high quality private schools. By age 27 they are well versed in all philosophy and are already well established at prestigious careers in law, business, public policy, and medicine. By then you stand no chance, maybe you can eke something out with a good degree and make 120k a year, or start your own business and make a couple million with a mcmansion and BMW, but you will NEVER be one of them.

[Anonymous No.11893414]

I'm 20, got a concussion and self isolated myself after and just autistically read all day while studying on the side. I sold every form of entertainment/hobby and now my room is just a bed, protein powder, a kindle and some books. Since you're 27 with your life together starting now is pretty optimal. I feel unnatural, like I had this dream the other day where I was a non physically-comprehendible humanoid-being in a dark room staring at a floating light. I also remembered a memory I have before being born which physicalised my subconscious into two entry-ways at the start of the year. Help me.

[Anonymous No.11893419]

>>11893414
Based Anon, you're doing holy work

[Anonymous No.11893425]

>>11893334
Think there's much less certainty written into philosophy than there used to be, but otherwise agree... Aside from critical thinking and logic, which really needs to be drilled into the head from primary school on, if not sooner - but, of course, that'd make it harder to divide and rule the populous.

[Anonymous No.11893457]

>>11893317
never believe its not possible to do anything at any age, because you will surely say to yourself afterwards, damn, i had the chance, but i didnt, when you could of, and should of.

I did, and I choose to participate in the almighty tapestry of the human race, and for this, i will be ever so satisfied I had gotten the full value out of experience every living being deserves and should claim.

Will you, anon ?

[Anonymous No.11893464]

>>11893457
>the almighty tapestry of the human race
Niggerfaggot

[Anonymous No.11893465]

>>11893425
Yeah, if the entire school system was reworked to properly teach kids it would be fine.

[Anonymous No.11893467]

>>11893412
Lets in contemporary modern day society literally hold ourselves to the standards in detail of a civilization that existed hundreds of years before us. We are surely not more advanced than that.

[Anonymous No.11893474]

>>11893464
because you have anything eloquent to say

[Anonymous No.11893478]

yeah fuck off

[Anonymous No.11893481]

>>11893414
>I sold every form of entertainment/hobby and now my room is just a bed, protein powder, a kindle and some books.
Nice.

[Anonymous No.11893490]

>>11893317
is 27 too old to start listening to icp?

[Anonymous No.11893496]

>>11893490
Too young, you have to be at least 35.

[Anonymous No.11893633]

>>11893317
George Sorel started in like, 60's.

[Anonymous No.11893654]

>>11893414
>I sold every form of entertainment/hobby and now my room is just a bed, protein powder, a kindle and some books.
Based anon

[Anonymous No.11893663]

>>11893331
>wanting to get a 3DPD slut as your "gf" (who is actually nothing but a glorified cocksleeve)
I see you've fallen victim to the normalfag ideology.

[Anonymous No.11893670]

>>11893414
>non physically-comprehendible
>humanoid-being
fuck off, idiot

[Anonymous No.11893685]

>>11893670
Afraid of high IQ hyphen placement?

[Anonymous No.11893737]

>>11893317
If you can't refute Kant by the age of seven you've failed.

[Anonymous No.11893764]

You can start reading philosophy at any age as long as you're not retarded and can keep up with a certain level of abstract thought. You don't need to memorize everything you read, but you should take notes on the most important points and copy definitions for words that may be unfamiliar to you, or may be used in a certain sense which you hadn't known about.
I suggest you to start with the Pre-Socratics, continue onto Plato, Aristotle, and make your way from there.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/mobilebasic?pli=1
If you feel like reading the Stoics, Epicurus, Cicero, and the Neo-Platonists, then go ahead and do so, but they're not absolutely essential to read many other posterior thinkers (like Kant or Aquinas). Most of Medieval philosophy will be of very little interest to you unless you're either a) into Aristotelian logic and metaphysics or b) into Christian theology. Nevertheless, you should at least read one of St. Augustine's major works and one of St. Thomas Aquinas' major works. You should most certainly read Descartes, Hobbes, Spinoza, Locke, Leibniz, Hume, since they built up to Kant, who is probably the most influential philosopher after Plato and Aristotle. After that philosophy more or less splits into lots of different schools of thought. Pragmaticism, British Idealism, and analytic philosophy represent different incarnations of a certain kind of Anglophone trend which prioritizes empiricism, certainity in truth, and a trust for one's knowledge of reality, which are somewhat opposed to Continental philosophy (which is anything that doesn't come from America and the UK and that has been made during the last 100-200 years, so at least since Husserl, but probably all the way since Hegel).
Please remember that philosophy is mostly idle speculations, and will rarely, if ever, actually be applicable to real life situations. Therefore, do not expect anything but interesting-sounding ideas and concepts out of it.
Also, please do not assume that any one philosopher, or that any theory is absolutely certainly true, for what may be true to you might not be true to them and vice versa.

[Anonymous No.11893789]

>>11893334
Fuck off Confucius.

[Anonymous No.11893812]

>>11893670
Do not bully my spiritually awakened friend

[Anonymous No.11893870]

>>11893317
Plato said you shouldn't start until you're 30.

[Anonymous No.11893877]

>>11893870
According to one of the speakers in Plato's dialogues (I can't remember if he appeared in Gorgias or The Statesman) said should stop doing philosophical inquiries once you're an adult.
Therefore, should you take eveything ever written by Plato as sincere life advice?

[Anonymous No.11893887]

>>11893877
Everything in Plato is designed to make you think for yourself based on arguments from both sides. It's up to OP to decide for himself what to do, but these are both suggestions from a great mind already beyond what OP is considering.

[Anonymous No.11894196]

>>11893870
The only philosophers back then were like, some sophists. Plato didn't have 2400 years to catch up on

[Anonymous No.11894245]

>>11894196
There were also lots of Pre-Socratic philosophers' writings back then. Zeno of Elea famously wrote hundreds of pages where he defended his master Parmenides' doctrine, and where he wrote down the now-famous five paradoxes of Zeno.

[Anonymous No.11894361]

Your time allocation and goal is more important than your age. If your goal is to just understand a couple of things that interest you then just pick up some secondary lit on the the topic. If you are looking to become fluent in western thought then you should be in a position to dedicate a significant portion of time to it, otherwise you are kidding yourself.

[Anonymous No.11894783]

>>11893764
Finally a good post for op

[Anonymous No.11894810]

>>11893317
Yes. The age of 27 is for dying. You are too late.

[Anonymous No.11894882]

You're at a good age to start. You're not likely to get trapped for life into some retarded ideology which to a young ear sounds like it has all the answers. There's nothing sadder than a 40 year communist.

[Anonymous No.11895021]

No. In fact whatever philosophy you've read before 30 yo should re-read it again.

[Anonymous No.11895279]

>>11893317
no

[Anonymous No.11895284]

welp, do you think about and mentally prepare yourself death and dying? meditate on that shit for any period of time?
because Ka-Chow that was enough in Socrates' eyes to define philosophy.

but for real, s' never too late. just try to hold off on more modern ones, cuz outside of the Analytics, a lot of it just seems to be dudes pimping their worldview out with super sexy pitches and with not the most solid logical underpinnings, thereby creating cults.

easy peezy start, give "The Problems of Philosophy" by Bertrand Russell a go. s' only a 100 or so pages and he gives a logic nerd's account on certain issues like perception of reality or the nature of existence (i.e. are we physical or ideas propped up by an outside perciever)

[Anonymous No.11895312]

>>11893414
u use that kindle to shitpost here ?

[Anonymous No.11895343]

>>11893317
is 27 too late to find a girlfriend? I’m 27.5 and single. I want to DIE. All my friends getting married.

[Anonymous No.11895347]

Reading philosophy is a waste of time if you don't plan on studying it formally, and twenty-seven is too old to go to school for a new subject.

[Anonymous No.11895374]

>>11893317
Damn.... this meme is literally me....

[Anonymous No.11895384]

If you didn't start training your mind before the age of 25 (once it is fully developed) you lost your chance at giving a boost to your IQ, g, intelligence.

Just end it.

[Anonymous No.11895420]

>>11893354
you are right, those numbers are embarrassingly low

[Anonymous No.11895433]

>>11893685
ok. this is epic

[Anonymous No.11895449]

>>11895384
this is such a dumb fucking trope

for you to research:

neurogenesis
neuroplasticity

[Anonymous No.11895457]

>>11895449
>>neurogenesis
>neuroplasticity
Can you recommend books? t. >>11895384

Any introductory/dilledant/autodidact tier books on topics would be gr8

[Anonymous No.11895503]

>>11894882
>There's nothing sadder than a 40 year communist.
kek'd at this, very true anon

[Anonymous No.11895528]

>>11893317
According to most ancient greeks you should probably wait another 10 years or so.

[Anonymous No.11895649]

>>11893414
Based.
Add some psychedelics into the mix and you are on the path to ascension

[Anonymous No.11896371]

>>11895649
Cringe. Don't dampen my friends unblocked spiritual antenna with your brain warpers

[Anonymous No.11896395]

>>11893414
Based mental health troubles, anon.

Based

[Anonymous No.11896397]

>>11893877
Socrates disagrees with that character though

[Anonymous No.11896404]

>>11895384
your god frowns upon you

[Anonymous No.11896410]

>>11893317
you might as well try

[Anonymous No.11896868]

>>11893383
>Lol. He isn't even a cumstain in a Husserl book!
You are going to die unhappy, never knowing the true light!

[Anonymous No.11897003]

>>11893317
That's too old, sorry. Philosophy is like a musical instrument; if you're not learning it at the vey latest 6 years old you'll never be that good at it.

[Anonymous No.11897168]

>>11893317
how would anyone here know whether you're too old and why would you believe anyone anyways?

[Anonymous No.11897179]

>>11893317
start reading philosophy and find out for yourself. all of the people here saying that it's too late are literally committing an evil act

[Anonymous No.11898719]

bump

[Anonymous No.11898812]

>>11893317
Am I too old to need assistance wiping my ass? The answer you receive from me is irrelevant, as much so as any answer you'll receive here in regards to your question. Do what you want.