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/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General Anonymous Fri Oct 5 21:39:15 2018 No.11889011 [Reply] [Original]

POST APOCALYPTIC EDITION: YOUR FAVORITES, POST 'EM.

Monthly Reading for October: Sword in the Storm (The Rigante, #1) by David Gemmell

FANTASY'S GREATEST
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SCIENCE FICTION'S GREATEST
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php

Previously on:
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>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 21:44:28 2018 No.11889030 >>11889003 You mean post about it in the check-in threads on places like r/writing? I don't see why not. Unless you had something else in mind.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 21:48:03 2018 No.11889041 Wandering Chef guy, what's motivating your mains? How do they handle this water nazi?

Anonymous Fri Oct 5 21:48:36 2018 No.11889043

>>11889030
They have a self promotion thread going on r/fantasy but what I'm talking about is their self published book review system. It's called Tbrindr I think google it, basically there's a list of bunch of voluntary reviewers, you can give one of them your book if they're available and they'll read it then review it and post it on Reddit, some of them even have blogs so it gets posted there too.

Anonymous Fri Oct 5 22:22:19 2018 No.11889150

>>11889041
The way I pictured it initially, it would begin with an act of charity that unexpectedly leads to conflict that further entangles them in matters, but that already sort of echoes the previous part of the book so I'm not sure I want to repeat it

What I do see is that the story has to begin in the spice market becuase the characters aren't wandering heroes, they're just wandering foodies.

I'm going to go out and come back. I think I can figure something out on my way to the store

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 22:38:05 2018 No.11889206 File: 45 KB, 200x303, This_immortal.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11889011 This Immortal is top tier post apocalypse

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 22:48:36 2018 No.11889240 >>11889206 This was good shit. Peak Zelazny.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 22:55:28 2018 No.11889267 File: 150 KB, 1024x1454, Soulcatcher_by_Mikey_Patch_(Irontree).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11889011 Anti-Soulcatcher fag a fag

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:04:05 2018 No.11889293 File: 526 KB, 1709x2589, M2033_novel_cover_west.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11889011 This any good?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:04:39 2018 No.11889295 >>11889240 The books of Corwin was peak Zelazny.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:05:18 2018 No.11889298 >>11889293 the games are better but the novels are decent.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:08:41 2018 No.11889315 Black Company is a meme. Stop posting about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:09:56 2018 No.11889322 >>11889315 No it's not and you're literally the only one who posted about it retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:12:49 2018 No.11889333 >>11889315 Did you just bad mouth an Appendix N series?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:14:44 2018 No.11889340 >look up the hugo and nebulae awards >almost every winner of the past few years is either female, trannie, nigger, fag, or has colored hair Where do you find out about good recent sci fi?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:17:15 2018 No.11889352 >>11889340 In your safe-space, Boomer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:18:07 2018 No.11889356 >>11889315 >stop posting memes Where do you think you are my man

Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:21:13 2018 No.11889370

>>11889293
Somehow, the last one, were one of the most anticipated books to me. the second one really drove me nuts with the ending and the overall relationship between that pedo and his loli. So i was looking for a tie-in or even a explanation of what really happened to artyom.

But, to be honest, the last books somehow lacks that sense of "answer" that was pointing to. I mean, out of nowhere suface military and completely fuctional cities where found and you where like, wtf. And the explanation given to it doesnt help that much.

To me, the best thing that could happen to Artyom would be his dead and make a new character for this one (Or use Homero instead) But no.

Its a decent book and i like it much, but somehow this didnt hook me as much as the first two.

Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:21:25 2018 No.11889371

>>11889340
Good question. I have enough backlog to keep me occupied for a good while, but almost anything published this decade that's not by established authors seems like hot garbage just by being straight out cheesy and generic if not for those reasons you listed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:23:51 2018 No.11889381 >>11889340 Dragon Awards are fan-voted so that's your best bet if you're going by awards and shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:25:32 2018 No.11889385 >>11889340 what do you expect. the nebula awards are rigged as fuck to push an agenda and not offend anyone. they arent about literary integrity anymore. not since the late 2000s.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:28:42 2018 No.11889394 File: 45 KB, 853x543, stormlighnt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I enjoy Brandon Sanderson's books

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:32:15 2018 No.11889405 Why is it that every time I start reading an unfinished series the author aborts the series after the next book I'm still waiting on peace talks and the third dandelion dynasty book

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:36:48 2018 No.11889419 >>11889405 >dandelion dynasty Probably coz it's a bad book and didn't sell much regardless of how many fags and progressive ideas the chink author stuffed into it >peace talks dresden peace talks, or?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:37:11 2018 No.11889422 File: 81 KB, 544x720, GRRMAWOIAF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anything like this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:42:04 2018 No.11889438 File: 457 KB, 1536x1536, anhod.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11889422

Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:46:05 2018 No.11889453

>>11889419
dresden peace talks

also, the dandelion dynasty was really good, and it wasn't because of politics. It set itself apart GoT clones by telling a story that, while gritty, focused on the wonder of human ingenuity, and had a world that felt unique to boot

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:48:15 2018 No.11889459 >>11889453 dresden peace talks isn't aborted though, it's still coming.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 5 23:51:01 2018 No.11889471 File: 77 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault-6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11889459 >he thinks peace talks is going to happen

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 00:05:53 2018 No.11889514 >>11889471 what do you mean? Butcher literally said he was building a house the last 3 years and couldn't get it done but he will now asap.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 00:12:08 2018 No.11889541 >>11889322 Dis nigga got trigga'd >>11889333 But it isn't?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 00:22:11 2018 No.11889561 File: 38 KB, 670x457, he also recommended a bunch of sci-fi authors somewhere on enworld.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11889541

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 00:23:05 2018 No.11889566 >>11889561 lol who is this clown

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 00:23:56 2018 No.11889571 File: 43 KB, 520x347, 5463112_f520.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11889566

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 00:27:33 2018 No.11889583 >>11889566 u wot son?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 00:32:52 2018 No.11889599 >>11889561 So I was right. It isn't in Appendix N.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 00:36:38 2018 No.11889612 >>11889599 It's part of Gary's recommended reading list.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 00:37:53 2018 No.11889616 >>11889612 >yeah but it wasn't in Appendix N so it doesn't count -The Retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 00:39:21 2018 No.11889625 >>11889612 But it wasn't in Appendix N so I was right. Just admit it, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 00:40:28 2018 No.11889630 >>11889340 >good Well, you see anon I >recent sci fi? >:(

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 00:46:13 2018 No.11889651 >>11888672 I'm the same as I was 5 years ago. Kill me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 00:53:02 2018 No.11889671 File: 162 KB, 600x906, 15415.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Vance obviously has a knack for ending stories concisely and satisfyingly, so how the fuck did this happen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 00:56:01 2018 No.11889678 >>11889671 This had a great ending though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 01:01:08 2018 No.11889692 The Dispossessed was real fuckin good

>>	Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Sat Oct 6 01:09:46 2018 No.11889714 >>11889671 >>11889678 Yep. Might be his best ending, at least that I can think of: amusing and open-ended whereas his usual endings are rushed wrap-ups.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 01:35:35 2018 No.11889769 Is there any fiction that takes place in an ancient mesopotamia (Sumeria, Assyria, Babylon) inspired setting?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 01:38:54 2018 No.11889779 >>11889769 Epic of Gilgamesh.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 01:44:47 2018 No.11889794 File: 60 KB, 786x600, 1534978345644.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any books where you can self-insert as someone trying to support a female authority figure on her way to gain power? >pic related

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 01:48:44 2018 No.11889807 >>11889794 Closest I can think of is Your and My Asylum, but that's a gook LN.

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 01:51:17 2018 No.11889813

I uploaded a collection of 83 apocalypse themed science fiction novels for the novanon.net OCH forum a while ago. It's on rapidgator.net. Here is the lik for anyone interested: https://rapidgator dot net/file/78603e25d76a809f9c2027b3efa6a633/Apocalypses.7z.html

>>	Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Sat Oct 6 01:54:08 2018 No.11889817 >>11889011 >>11889813 Linked so OP notices.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 01:54:44 2018 No.11889819 >>11889769 Enûma Eliš may also count.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 01:55:08 2018 No.11889820 >>11889813 That's fantastic anon, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 02:10:53 2018 No.11889855 File: 123 KB, 800x1003, 52457-bram-stoker-s-dracula-amiga-front-cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone read this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 02:11:30 2018 No.11889856 >>11889855 >>>/vr/

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 02:12:22 2018 No.11889861
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I loved the politics on South Ulfland and the dreamy aspect of this world but this was definitely not as good as the first one. Worth reading Madouc? What did you guys think of the series?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 02:12:49 2018 No.11889865 >>11889856 you know what i meant you pedantic little baby

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 02:22:58 2018 No.11889894 >>11889855 The accents are really bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 02:23:12 2018 No.11889895 >>11889861 Madouc was my favorite. It was a lot more focused I thought.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 03:33:57 2018 No.11890106 File: 102 KB, 717x491, bc 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11889267 Based waifufag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 03:42:28 2018 No.11890134 >>11889438 >female protagonist with a husband >female author I dread to ask but does it evolve cucking of any kind?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 03:43:36 2018 No.11890142 >>11890134 *involve

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 03:43:41 2018 No.11890144 >>11889267 >>11890106 Is this series any good?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 03:44:44 2018 No.11890148 >>11889394 All i've read are Sanderson books. What should I have read instead?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 03:46:48 2018 No.11890152 >>11890144 I liked first couple of books (North ones). Later it just gets boring, partially because some intriguing and interesting characters are dead.

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 03:47:51 2018 No.11890154

>>11889769
What kind of fiction? If historical fiction is good enough for you try the Tiglat Ashur books (2) by Nicholas Guild. They are really entertaining books to, the kind of satisfyingly rich, unapologetically swashbuckling derring-do violent asskicking story that is not easy to find nowadays. The second book is better than the first, too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 03:49:08 2018 No.11890158 >>11890154 that and the party of adventurers are my favorite kinds so thanks for the rec

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 03:51:18 2018 No.11890165 >>11889267 We had a whole thread without you autists.

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 03:55:02 2018 No.11890176

>>11890158
You're welcome. Those two books are contained in another best-of collection (of historical novels) that I have uploaded for novanon.net.

https://rapidgator dot net/file/084e704cd0e459e4831cb5ce965ade39/historical_novels.7z.html

Btw best-of doesnt include the usual generic Follett, Gordon Gabaldon stuff you can find anywhere but the rarer and older stuff that never got the attention it deserved. I have read all of them myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 04:25:22 2018 No.11890255 >>11890144 See: >>11889315

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 04:29:33 2018 No.11890273

Finished Book of the New Sun the other day. Was really satisfying, and I ended up loving it. Anything else by Wolfe that's worth a read? I liked The Fifth Head of Cerberus a lot as well. Started Blindsight, and I'm finding it sort of hokey at the moment but I'm really early on in it. The vampires seem like a sort of stupid idea, but I think the way the author writes the protagonist's perspective to be interesting.

>>11889438
What is that? I have a soft spot for dragons and haven't read anything involving them that isn't smut in a long time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 04:36:31 2018 No.11890298 >>11890148 Conan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 04:39:42 2018 No.11890306 File: 33 KB, 301x475, 36638002.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why do Russian translations always have the best covers? Is it because they aren't designed to grab as much attention as possible in a book shop?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 04:41:48 2018 No.11890316 File: 44 KB, 317x475, 32683449.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11890306

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 05:04:43 2018 No.11890372 What the FUCK is magical realism?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 05:08:41 2018 No.11890379 >>11890372 Pretentious way of saying fantasy

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 05:12:12 2018 No.11890390 File: 5 KB, 250x187, 1080.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw based Connovar is fighting a godsdamned bear

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 05:18:06 2018 No.11890404 >>11890390 Did I turn the wrong way and end up in Goodreads?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 05:20:04 2018 No.11890413 >>11890404 No. Goodreads has better taste in SF&F

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 05:23:02 2018 No.11890421 Describe the last book you read as poorly as possible >autismal Warhammer 40K player btfos his opponent so bad that it causes the collapse of a regime

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 05:24:38 2018 No.11890427 >>11890404 welcome to the new reddit, it's all this and Sanderson praise now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 05:27:08 2018 No.11890439 >>11890421 >baby is born, castle staff goes crazy

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 05:54:05 2018 No.11890502 >>11890379 This. It's like calling a comic book a graphic novel or science fiction space opera so you don't look childish.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 05:59:40 2018 No.11890505 >>11890502 space operas are far more childish than sci-fi though

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 06:04:46 2018 No.11890512 >Foundation accent >Pleiadesian accent >Bookfilm Sometimes Asimov's terminology is worse than Hubert's.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 06:41:01 2018 No.11890633 Any of you shits up yet? What's on the agenda today anon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 06:46:03 2018 No.11890643 >>11890633 Been too busy writing my own thing to really read a lot. But I'm also still going through Gormenghast and maybe trying something about this monthly reading bit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 07:08:32 2018 No.11890704 >>11889340 John W. Campbell Award

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 08:02:15 2018 No.11890822 >>11890273 >Anything else by Wolfe that's worth a read? Latro is really good. I would recommend rereading BotNS in a year or two before going into Long and Short Sun.

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 08:05:46 2018 No.11890832

>>11889340
If anyone was writing the classic white male hard science fiction you seem to want that was actually *good* then it would be winning those awards. All the people whining about the current Hugo and Nebula awards, I admit I'm not a fan of many of the winners, can't write for shit so honestly they have nothing to bitch about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 08:10:56 2018 No.11890839 >>11890818 is this similar to connan ? I dont want some soiboy shit.

>>	Thiskillsthedarkelf Sat Oct 6 08:14:24 2018 No.11890849 >>11890421 >china man feeds teenage girl to a bear but it's okay because parents are lame.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 08:20:58 2018 No.11890865 >>11890144 The books in the North are goat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 08:22:54 2018 No.11890872 >>11890421 The player of games >>11890439 titus groan >dog transforms into a human asshole and then back to a dog

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 08:41:36 2018 No.11890922 File: 394 KB, 1041x1587, solaris.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This book is remarkable, would recommend

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 08:51:28 2018 No.11890946 File: 227 KB, 276x422, 26863057.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Worst thing I've ever read. It's a shame, I like the idea of stone age humans fighting against bronze age elves, but the author is a massive faggot.

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 09:03:14 2018 No.11890981

>>11889514
Bullshit. I was eagerly waiting for it for years but Im not holding my breath. It still doesn't even have a general release date. I doubt he will even get it out by next year. Even if he churns one out he has four more books then a trilogy to end the whole series. But even letting that go the quality has plummeted, and its easy to tell he has no clue where to take it. I think he's figured out he can coast from now on doing the con circuit and his other shitty little projects.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 09:35:57 2018 No.11891054 >>11890981 He never wanted to write Dresden Files to begin with. He was just doing a deliberately garbage novel to prove his editor wrong, that people wouldn't actually like the shit. But then they did, and now he was stuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 09:48:23 2018 No.11891092 >>11891054 Which one was this? Ghost Story?

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 09:49:53 2018 No.11891095

>>11891092

Storm Front, he wanted to do a novel free style and they never got published.

So he wanted to go "fuck you", so he did everything so by the book, used a worksheet for everything, did as much by the numbers soulless hackery as he could, and he got his most prominent series.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 10:08:18 2018 No.11891133 >>11890981 >the quality has plummeted lol Fucking Dresdenfags.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 10:14:06 2018 No.11891143 >>11889794 Greatcoats series

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 10:18:15 2018 No.11891154
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>>11891133
Don't you fucking dare asshole, talk shit about me if you want but don't EVER talk shit about the second best book series to be ever written(Stormlight Archve is first ofc)

Come back and debate books with me only AFTER you've finished reading things like Cosmere, Dresden, Kingkiller and educated yourself on at least the basics of good literature. Until then you have no right to an opinion on ANY book.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 10:19:16 2018 No.11891160 >>11891154 If this isn't a copypasta, it should be.

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 10:21:18 2018 No.11891164

>>11891154
>>11891160
You forget the prose, because Rothfuss obviously got the best prose. Never mind that it's basically just a few loose metaphors which sound and read nice, but don't mean shit. On top of that he managed to write some seriously fucking atrocious dialogue.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 10:43:27 2018 No.11891240 File: 2.17 MB, 2560x1815, 0u2Jzvk0SEE[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11890306 The Anubis Gates

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 10:52:55 2018 No.11891267 File: 938 KB, 1548x1440, 70.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891240

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 10:54:53 2018 No.11891279
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Alright, I haven't read anything for three years because I was a useless Neet, but read plenty of fantasy in my youth, a lot of it not from English-speaking authors though. I now want to pick things up again, which series should I start with? I don't trust the generally recommended stuff from reddit and goodreads, I've only read ASOIAF and everything from Tolkien from their various top 20 lists, they would probably tell me to read Malazan or stuff from Sanderson next. Are the books in the selected list from this thread superior or is it just assumed that you've already read the usually recommended stuff?

So in short, please give me something to read bros, I really want to get back into it and don't know who to trust. Preferably something that is not full of antiheroes and grimdark shit, but more inspiring and moving.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 10:56:16 2018 No.11891286 File: 702 KB, 1371x2000, 178958_1[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891267

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 10:57:08 2018 No.11891288 File: 33 KB, 327x499, 51jFGwi2-BL._SX325_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891279 Conan can be more heroic than his reputation: pic related should be what you need. See also Discworld.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 10:59:30 2018 No.11891296 >>11891288 Thanks bro, isn't Discworld a bit too cheesy though? I've always assumed that it was full of jokes and humor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:01:06 2018 No.11891303 >>11891279 > Preferably something that is not full of antiheroes and grimdark shit, but more inspiring and moving. Anything from Tad Williams/Guy Gavriel Kay

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:01:18 2018 No.11891304 File: 620 KB, 1500x2339, 91X4uxpYMIL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891296 It's got its share of jokes, but gets surprisingly serious as time goes on. I'd say that from Night Watch onward the humor angle is dropped altogether.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:04:29 2018 No.11891315 >>11891303 I've actually read the dragonbone chair in my youth and something in the same vein sounds goods to me. A righteous heroe's journey, romance, magic and a sense of wonder.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:07:31 2018 No.11891325 File: 857 KB, 1662x2560, 91KJP67epxL[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891315 > A righteous heroe's journey, romance, magic and a sense of wonder.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:08:48 2018 No.11891329 >>11891325 That cover is so good, why don't we see covers like that anymore?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:10:37 2018 No.11891333 File: 509 KB, 1059x1600, Empire+of+Grass+by+Tad+Williams[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891329

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:11:27 2018 No.11891337

>>11891325
Many thanks, I didn't know that there was more in the same world as the previous trilogy, but looks like the series is still ongoing. I think it's best to start with something that's finished.

>>11891303
>Guy Gavriel Kay
Only ever heard of Tigana, is this a good entry point?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:12:07 2018 No.11891339 File: 594 KB, 1365x849, ZuMVxyUT3g4[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891333

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:14:57 2018 No.11891345

>>11891337
It's quite popular but I think it's cheesy as shit with way too much sex where it's not needed and all the cheese being not worth the payoff at the end. But I'm sure I'm in the minority here and people love the book here. I'll say this though, the prose is fantastic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:16:36 2018 No.11891352 File: 400 KB, 1600x1200, 2013-05-26+18.45.36[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891337 > Only ever heard of Tigana, is this a good entry point? Nah start with The Sarantine Mosaic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:17:39 2018 No.11891353 >>11889240 >>11889295 Lord of Light was peak Zelazny

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:18:27 2018 No.11891360 >>11891353 your opinion is shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:18:33 2018 No.11891361 >>11891352 Patrician

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:20:19 2018 No.11891364 >>11891360 you're shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:26:12 2018 No.11891379 >>11890946 I on the other hand really like it. Listened to the whole series up to its latest release in audiobook format

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:29:13 2018 No.11891390 >>11891379 homo

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:30:29 2018 No.11891392 >>11889794 Hild

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:32:46 2018 No.11891399 >>11890946 Why? What's wrong with him?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:35:45 2018 No.11891409 >>11890981 >the con circuit How much can authors make for con appearances? It's enough to live on?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:37:36 2018 No.11891413 >>11891279 The Amber series by Roger Zelazny

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:38:14 2018 No.11891416 >>11891399 Cringy virtue signaller and it tells in his writing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:39:14 2018 No.11891417 File: 1.19 MB, 853x1024, dumps of spamber.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891413 Amber is pretty grimdark, though. The entire family is a bunch of treacherous serpents.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:40:14 2018 No.11891421 >>11891416 Give me some spoilers, I don't mind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:40:56 2018 No.11891424 >>11891413 Just wanted to express exactly this sentiment >>11891417, reading through the description makes it sound a bit gloomy. But I appreciate any suggestion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:43:17 2018 No.11891427 File: 130 KB, 743x288, throne-of-glass-series-banner.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who's your favourite character?

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:47:45 2018 No.11891443

>>11891421
>disabled female rape victim invents buckets, bows, iron and the wheel
>another woman invents writing and decodes an ancient runic language in a few hours
>first king is a woman
>her best warrior is a woman
>first human that can use magic is a woman
>male protagonist is pussywhipped by a milf twice his age that constantly rejects him
>all the other men are treacherous rapists

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 11:49:17 2018 No.11891449 >>11891443 I see, oh well.

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:04:25 2018 No.11891492
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Why is it so hard to write female characters that are reasonably smart, helpful, and drive the plot forward, without crossing over into flawlessness, obnoxious girl power virtue signalling, and cringe?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:11:07 2018 No.11891508 >>11890152 >>11890865 Do the North books end in a somewhat satisfying way? No big loose ends that'll make me want to continue? I don't feel like reading more than three books in a series right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:11:10 2018 No.11891510 >>11891427 Major Cum Loudly

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:14:09 2018 No.11891523

>>11891508
More or less I would say. I mean you don't know exactly what happens to some minor (though interesting) characters and some of them return later but you can read North as self contained series.
How I wish Soulcatcher was his waifu and not the Lady....

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:16:12 2018 No.11891528 >>11891337 >Tigana, is this a good entry point? I have never read Tigana or the Sarantine Mosaic but I love his alternative history novels like The Lions of Al-Rassan and A Song For Arbonnne.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:16:35 2018 No.11891532 >>11891508 Yea. Ends with the characters going separate ways and riding into the sunset.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:18:01 2018 No.11891538 >>11891528 You would like Sarantine Mosaic then, it's about (not)Justinian and (not)Theodora.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:18:22 2018 No.11891539 >>11891528 Last Light Of The Sun, too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:19:17 2018 No.11891544 >>11891532 Ayy I love these

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:22:37 2018 No.11891554

What are some actually good rise to power/rags from riches stories where the hero saves the day and gets the girl. Yes, a very classic trope, but that's exactly why many works tend to avoid it nowadays.

Good example: Tad Williams, Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn, starts out with a literal kitchen boy who becomes a righteous hero and gets a nice girl >>11891325

Bad example: Name of the wind, reddit incarnate wanders around meaninglessly and falls for a stupid bitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:24:15 2018 No.11891562 >>11891554 Rand gets multiple girls in Wheel of Time. One of them is even likeable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:26:28 2018 No.11891574 File: 161 KB, 1192x475, lg_3369c3233cd7-acotar.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891554 Throne of Glass. >hero saves the day and gets the girl. Like that, but she saves the men. Pic related is also great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:27:45 2018 No.11891579 >>11891562 Wheel of Time sounds like the ultimate power fantasy, looks like I should finally read it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:32:08 2018 No.11891593 >>11891579 >the ultimate power fantasy If being berated by women constantly counts, then yes, definitely.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:34:10 2018 No.11891601 >>11891593 Alright, Wheel Of Time, Riftwar or Farseer?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:37:08 2018 No.11891607 >>11891492 Doesn't get the author as much praise.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:39:26 2018 No.11891621 File: 62 KB, 718x638, 1535462139434.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891574 >Coaurt thoofrns roandses What language is this

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:48:26 2018 No.11891662 File: 39 KB, 640x480, Grandma-Finds-The-Internet.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891574 >>11891621 Someone really needs remedial lessons in layout design.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:50:02 2018 No.11891673 >>11891508 dude gets the girl big bad is gone kingdom is kinda fucked but whatever the good dudes fuck off somewhere with a reasonable climate and leave everyone else to sort shit out

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:52:54 2018 No.11891698 File: 24 KB, 263x400, 8008723.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11889011 As big a meme as Infinite Jest

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 12:55:29 2018 No.11891715 File: 1.56 MB, 267x200, 1529533219195.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891673 >silent still alive

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 13:00:10 2018 No.11891746 >>11891715 oh yeah, I don't really feel like reading the main books after the trilogy, but how is the Silver Spike?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 13:06:57 2018 No.11891788 File: 95 KB, 720x960, nido.org_1525923938120.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wat up homos? Still reading fantasy shit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 13:13:13 2018 No.11891818 File: 73 KB, 480x725, conanB01_79.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why are there no good fantasy novels where the protagonist ends up with a harem?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 13:15:39 2018 No.11891832 File: 2.21 MB, 2048x1365, 40306502075_2f11948005_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891818 Those insensitive and frankly misogynistic times are thankfully gone anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 13:19:29 2018 No.11891849 File: 491 KB, 1000x1244, behmen18.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sci-fantasy were magic manifests in an otherwise non-magical universe

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 13:19:58 2018 No.11891853
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>>11891832
That's just one type of harem, anon. Protagonist can be female too, and her harem a male one. You're the one being misogynistic and closed-minded for not realizing this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 13:20:12 2018 No.11891855 >>11891849 >sci-fantasy were magic manifests in an otherwise non-magical universe Horrible premise.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 13:20:31 2018 No.11891857 >>11891818 not directly a harem but the Gor books by John Norman might be right up your alley

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 13:26:35 2018 No.11891882 >>11891857 Sounds like something middle-aged women would be into.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 13:30:22 2018 No.11891891 File: 895 KB, 2048x1536, 22602211946_e3c4bbd955_k.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891853 >One Piece You should be ashamed of yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 13:32:49 2018 No.11891897 >>11891788 still reading, still lonely

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 13:34:02 2018 No.11891903 >>11891788 Yeah. Still watching porn, all alone? How are you better than us?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 13:41:49 2018 No.11891934 File: 665 KB, 1800x2700, 28377219999_11d1477f9d_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891897 Maybe you could stop reading and start doing? >>11891903 I have far, far better taste.

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 13:56:56 2018 No.11891979

>>11891417
>>11891424
>Amber
>grimderp
No gloom. There's no gore or rape. There's not even that much violence compared to new stuff. Yes there's battles, swords duels, etc but Amber is a sword & sorcery adventure with scheming and trying to figure who's behind the mysteries.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:01:35 2018 No.11892016 File: 325 KB, 800x659, 1529253393106.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anyone have some ambiguous utopia/dystopia res?

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:03:42 2018 No.11892034
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Hey, guys, Scott here. Sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if any of you have reconsidered finishing the Aspect-Emperor? I promise you it will be worth your time. I know the first three books aren't that great, but I've put my all into the fourth... Don't abandon me now, /sffg/. pls guys daniel dennett won't reply to my texts and i need you

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:07:03 2018 No.11892048 >>11891818 because its not interesting

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:09:18 2018 No.11892060 >>11891979 Benedict was clearly raped by the hellmaid Lithra. Probably with his severed arm.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:10:46 2018 No.11892070 >>11892048 If you're low-t, maybe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:12:30 2018 No.11892082 >>11891818 >he's not read road to kingdom

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:12:40 2018 No.11892083 >>11892034 >daniel dennett won't reply to my texts Wot?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:13:02 2018 No.11892085 >>11892070 reading about another man? that's fucking gay, you're basically cucking yourself especially if he fucks women in the book

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:15:58 2018 No.11892094 >>11892083 >he doesn't know about bakker's obsession with dennett

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:15:59 2018 No.11892095 File: 282 KB, 882x1200, Senlin Ascends.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11892016

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:17:09 2018 No.11892100 >>11892085 These are not "other men", but fictional human archetypes spawned by your own imagination.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:18:01 2018 No.11892104 >>11892094 No, I don't read his rape books either, I only know him as a meme from here.

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:19:16 2018 No.11892113

>>11892104
>rape books
Then you really did fall for the memes. There isn't much rape. And prose-wise, he's probably the best current author. Bakker's prose is fucking beautiful. And unlike most of these brainlets, he actually has something he wants to say with his books.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:20:41 2018 No.11892121 >>11892082 I might as well go to literotica right now, they at least have stories written by native English writers instead of botched translations of subpar Korean trash by some dork.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:23:20 2018 No.11892129 >>11892121 watch it asshole, it's japanese trash

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 14:50:17 2018 No.11892249

>>11891054
>>11891095
A slight correction which makes the story more amusing IMO: The first couple of books were written as homework after his creative writing teacher told him to please write something other than epic fantasy. Then she sent the stories to her editor right around when the late 90s Urban Fantasy fad really took off and the editor figured "yeah this will sell."

that "one good Urban Fantasy series" that nerds love is literally somebody's homework, the working title was "Semiautomagic"

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 15:03:11 2018 No.11892296 >>11891554 Curse of Chalion. A knight returns home a broken man, having been betrayed and sold as a galley slave. He gets hired as a tutor, slowly recovers, and eventually saves the kingdom, lifts the curse, finds love, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 15:08:39 2018 No.11892315 File: 115 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11889011 this any good?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 15:20:36 2018 No.11892378 >>11892315 I read Use of Weapons and really enjoyed it. I also read the first part of Excession and liked a lot of the ideas it presented but never finished it. I'd recommend checking them out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 15:42:07 2018 No.11892499 >>11892315 Yes, some of the best. Start with Inversions for a view of the Culture from the outside, you wont be able to have that experience ever again if you start with another book.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 15:47:19 2018 No.11892535 >>11892296 Yep, Curse of Chalion is pretty good. One of the few serious fantasy books with magic and shit that I could read without forcing myself.

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 16:08:58 2018 No.11892635

So, I've just finished rereading Baudolino by Eco. Does it count as fantasy? I don't care, I just want to talk about it.
It used to be among my favorite novels before, but now I can safely say it is THE favorite.
My favorite game is Baldur's Gate 2, and I've just realised maybe that's why I liked the book so much. Both have a medieval setting, a party of adventurers, strange, mythological creatures, religious themes, and a room(s) full of weird devices.
JFC, I absolutely adore this book.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 16:41:12 2018 No.11892756 >>11889293 I've only read the first book but I liked it (a 3/5 read for me). Dense atmosphere and some cool locations and scenes. It's been a while since I've read it but I can still vividly recall some moments.

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 16:45:28 2018 No.11892775

Why, just WHY do writers think shitty purple prose and overdramatic dialogue straight out of a shitty movie are a good idea.
E.g. I tried The Shadow of What Was Lost recently and I may continue but that shitty prologue chapter alone made me want to vomit. It's like it was written by a teenager who thinks he's hot shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 16:49:54 2018 No.11892787 File: 90 KB, 479x799, Solaris.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Stanislaw Lem's books are very good. I especially like Solaris, Star Diaries, Tales of Pirx the pilot and The Cyberiad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 16:59:53 2018 No.11892825 >>11891443 Yeah I stopped after the first book since it was obvious where it was going. Literally every villain of the first book is a male. Some of the dialogue was so sewing-circle tier that I half-believed a woman had written it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 17:01:06 2018 No.11892829 >>11892775 I forced myself to finish book 1, boy do i regret that. Full of bad writing and badly done bad tropes, I swear I remember there's some time travel shit somewhere in there too. Great cover tho.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 17:03:57 2018 No.11892838 >>11892095 How do you get the water that high?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 17:04:59 2018 No.11892844 >>11892113 >he actually has something he wants to say with his books. His thoughts on rape maybe?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 17:08:04 2018 No.11892858 >>11891337 >>11891352 these are GGK's best work and some of my absolute favorite novels and damn, those covers are gorgeous. gonna buy the physical books just so I can put those beauties on my shelf.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 17:11:00 2018 No.11892878 >>11889293 I'd say it's mediocre in a good way. I read it many years ago and I managed to complete it, but I can't say it was worth it. I abandoned 2034 as that was painful to read.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 17:13:39 2018 No.11892888 >>11892787 I read Solaris when it was the monthly reading book. I did not like it at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 17:15:57 2018 No.11892897 >>11892888 Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion, man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 17:31:04 2018 No.11892963 >>11890922 yeah, this is one of the best sci-fi novels of all time

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 17:33:24 2018 No.11892978 >>11891492 Because the author fails in driving the plot through the character's desire and weaknesses.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 17:34:08 2018 No.11892981 Would you let jasaray cum in your young barbarian pussy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 17:35:12 2018 No.11892984 >>11891492 Tbh I only notice this problem consistently in fantasy

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 17:37:25 2018 No.11892997

>>11891818
Because every piece of erotica is simply badly written, as if the entire genre itself was cursed or something. It's depressing. You won't get something of the works of Lolita or, hell, A Song of Ice and Fire, because the authors just don't understand how to write stories or simply don't put the effort into it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 17:49:00 2018 No.11893035 >>11892838 Pumps, to be more specific would be to spoil a minor plot point. The books slowly unravel the mystery of the tower, worth a read if you're interested in such things.

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 17:52:25 2018 No.11893054

>>11891492
i think the reason why people who like anime/manga can stomach it is because those female heroes don't pretend to be realistic, and outside of their heroism they tend to be very girly characters, which makes it much more believable. Like the fantasy super hero magical girl stuff is absurd anyway and suspension of disbelief is not a problem there so let's go all out on that, and they can be perfectly normal girls in their day-to-day lives. A lot of western stuff tries so hard to seem real that it your suspension of disbelief is broken. It's the juxtaposition of female heroes against relatively realistic stuff. It's jarring. In Sailor Moon no such juxtaposition exists

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 18:09:22 2018 No.11893123 >>11892016 The Bridge by Iain Banks

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 18:17:55 2018 No.11893176 Any fantasy besides Discworld that's genuinely funny?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 18:31:59 2018 No.11893254 File: 48 KB, 333x500, 51Ld2c8sHBL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11893176 pic related Another Stupid Spell is good too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 18:48:06 2018 No.11893340 >>11893176 Red Queen's War

>>	Thiskillsthedarkelf Sat Oct 6 18:52:11 2018 No.11893358 >>11890946 >first king is a woman No wonder they're stuck in the bronze age.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 18:53:52 2018 No.11893370 >>11893358 I mean, that's elves who are in the bronze age.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 18:56:39 2018 No.11893377 >>11892787 The Invincible is a kickass book

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 18:57:02 2018 No.11893379 >>11893358 They haven't reached it yet

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 18:57:31 2018 No.11893380 A kind anon who is on mobilism and has a lot of WRZ$ should request someone upload the books Testament of Tall Eagle and Son of Tall Eagle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 18:59:12 2018 No.11893389 >>11893370 So are the Dwarves lol >retard girl sees Dwarf playing with clump of iron >immediately realises this would make better weapons

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 18:59:53 2018 No.11893395 >>11893380 I mean you could do it yourself, make 4 accounts, you start with 50 wrz on each, donate it all to one account. Make an upload request offering 200 and make sure you put the 200 in the title. You'll have your book in no time

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:01:00 2018 No.11893400 >>11893380 And make sure to bump it periodically with your other accounts till you hit the limit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:02:39 2018 No.11893406 >>11892296 Curse of chalion was great. Haven’t read the sequel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:04:14 2018 No.11893413 >>11893395 >>11893400 That sounds like a lot of work. You should do it instead. Thank you and God bless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:04:35 2018 No.11893415 >>11892775 It gets good. Has Christian overtones and a bit of a philosophical bent around free will vs unchangeable predetermined destiny

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:05:43 2018 No.11893418 File: 52 KB, 500x500, 516ROtbVasL._SL500_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11893176 waldo rabbit is pretty good. the humor stems from situation comedy and misunderstandings. i hugely recommend the audiobooks. also book 4 soon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:07:28 2018 No.11893424 >>11893413 Oh well, since you asked so nicely.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:08:04 2018 No.11893426 Is ship Fuchsia and Titus (seven years old). There, I said it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:11:49 2018 No.11893440 >>11893424 :3

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:12:59 2018 No.11893452 >>11892775 Purple prose > prose that reads like it was written by a robot

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:17:41 2018 No.11893475 >>11893452 You forgot purple prose that written by a robot restricted to a-zA-Z. I googled some made up words from my novel and dear god is there a lot of crap online. Self publishing was a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:18:36 2018 No.11893479 >>11893475 Even before self-publishing, there was vanity publishing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:19:53 2018 No.11893485 File: 2.00 MB, 1524x2339, RED-SISTER-cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Guilty pleasures I admit it, I actually enjoyed reading about Lawrence's psycho loli

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:25:23 2018 No.11893507 File: 231 KB, 590x1024, ironspell-4-590x1024.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love simple art like this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:27:36 2018 No.11893518 >>11893485 Grey Sister was trash tho at least give me an /u/ ending in the last one

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:28:33 2018 No.11893523 >>11893485 Jalan could beat her up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:28:53 2018 No.11893526 >>11893518 yeah it was, red sister kept it simple and stuck to it's strengths, grey sister was just a convoluted mess

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:31:16 2018 No.11893536 >>11893485 Yeah I enjoy the series. It's good to see Lawrence can restrain himself and write something not-edgy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:36:00 2018 No.11893553 >>11892787 Read His Master's Voice

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:39:40 2018 No.11893563 >>11891492 Because in doing so you put women in positions of men. A smart woman is a woman that wants babies, wants to raise babies, wants to please her husband. Not destroy the ring, slay the dragon, save the world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:41:14 2018 No.11893569 File: 41 KB, 500x500, 51SDuDLIRSL._SS500_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If you want some good post-apoc scifi do yourself a favour and pick up this colleciton. Fucking love Paolo after reading this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:43:33 2018 No.11893579 >>11892888 You're a pleb, sorry. Go back to reading J.K. Sanderfuss

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:48:34 2018 No.11893600 >>11893563 What if the quest for the ring gives her super femininity powers to cook the best babies and give birth to the best dinners for her husband? Think before you speak, eh?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:50:42 2018 No.11893607 >>11893600 Shut up, cunt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:50:53 2018 No.11893608 File: 781 KB, 272x320, 1537646499877.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11893600 >cook the best babies and give birth to the best dinners for her husband?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:55:25 2018 No.11893628 >>11893563 I'm amazed people like this are even able to read.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 19:58:43 2018 No.11893642 >>11893628 He's right though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:01:01 2018 No.11893651 >>11893642 >he It's a "she", like are all of us. No need to pretend, sister.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:05:47 2018 No.11893677 >>11893563 >>11893628 anyoen who doesn't want to be dominated by a penis is mentally ill desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:06:35 2018 No.11893684 File: 136 KB, 760x1146, ID_HCO2014MTH03COTB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are some fantasy novels with a genuine and moving teenage romance to fill the endless black void in my heart?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:08:11 2018 No.11893693 >>11893677 Sounds kinda gay anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:08:34 2018 No.11893695 >>11893607 Just because you don't appreciate my metaphorical plot structure to resurrect and reinforce traditional values in this degenerate age doesn't mean you have to call me a cunt, friend

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:10:31 2018 No.11893703 >>11893695 I'm not your friend, guy.

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:13:39 2018 No.11893714

finished reading Dune, and all I can say is god fucking damn. That and Starship Troopers are two works of science fiction that wholly transcend entertainment, and I felt permanently changed after reading both. Makes me want to go train in the wilderness and form a militia to overthrow the government.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:15:18 2018 No.11893719 Bros, I can't decide: Wheel Of Time or the Riftwar Saga?

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:16:10 2018 No.11893724

>>11892535
Bujold is one of the few modern genre writers who actually gets better as time goes on, IMO.

>>11893406
The sequels are good. The Penric short stories are also really good.

>>11893485
Jay Kristoff, some of the stupidest, most overwrought purple prosed YA tripe around, but it's entertaining.

Alchemists of Loom by Elise Kova, again a very overwrought YA series but entertaining. Gets a extra point in it's favor because the protaganist is in her 20s instead of being a teen.

I read a lot of shitty MilSF too. Jamie Sawyer does a pretty decent Colonial Space Marines vs Zergomorph Predators series, and Marko Kloos does one about horrific H.R. Giger giraffes that's good but has started to drag somewhat since the past three have been "humanity loses another planet because they underestimated the aliens/couldn't stop infighting"

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:17:18 2018 No.11893730 >>11893719 Riftwar is kinda middling but the Empire ones co-written with Janny Wurts are great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:19:55 2018 No.11893745 >>11893730 > the Empire ones co-written with Janny Wurts are great. They really are, it's his best stuff. Read Magician and those and frankly ignore everything else Feist has done.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:21:50 2018 No.11893755 >>11893719 I only ever read the first Riftwar, I thought it wrapped up well and didn't feel the need to read any other books in the series. I dropped Wheel of Time 6 books in and I'm pissed about wasting my time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:25:03 2018 No.11893773 >>11893755 Were all six books a waste of time or just the last one? Because people generally recommend skimming through half of them and praise the Sanderson ones at the end.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:28:17 2018 No.11893788 >>11893773 1st one was shit, 2nd was good, 3rd was less good, 4th was bad, 5th was great, 6th was shit. After the 6th I just came to the conclusion that it wasn't for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:31:39 2018 No.11893801 >>11893788 Well, you convinced me to abstain from the series for now, please give me something else then. Which finished series did you enjoy from start to end, bro?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:33:52 2018 No.11893806 >>11893801 Chronicles of Amber.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:35:44 2018 No.11893813 >>11893801 That's just one persons opinion. Most people would say it drop's in quality around books 8 or 9 and the pacing slows to a drag, but until then it's great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:38:27 2018 No.11893822 >>11893806 I've considered it before, but the combination of synopsis and reception didn't seem that convincing. Still, I'll trust your word on this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:38:48 2018 No.11893825 >>11893813 Only diehard Wheel of Time fans pretend it didn't go to shit with the 7th book.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:40:03 2018 No.11893831 >>11893813 Yeah, but he's not alone in his opinion and it's a great time investment in the end. I'll move it down on my list for now and probably come back to it later.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:44:35 2018 No.11893850 >>11893831 > it's a great time investment That it is. Yes the series is flawed and yes it's very slow past the middle books but damn does it have some god-tier world building and it ends on a high.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:50:40 2018 No.11893878 >>11893850 What do you feel is a well-known series that is very similar to the Wheel of Time and would generally be enjoyed by the same people?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:50:48 2018 No.11893879 >>11893850 >and it ends on a high. Not from what I've heard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:51:41 2018 No.11893883 >>11893745 From what I have heard the Empire books were mainly written by Wurts and Fiest provided input and his name on the cover, like all those "TOM CLANCY/CLIVE CUSSLER/JAMES PATTERSON and some author you've never heard of" books.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:58:09 2018 No.11893921 >>11892635 I'm going to doubt anyone here has read Eco. Even I haven't read Eco. But I downloaded Baudolino on your recommendation. >>11893822 The first Amber series is great. Not the second tho.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 20:59:38 2018 No.11893930 >>11893801 The Warlord Chronicles.

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:00:00 2018 No.11893933

>>11893879
Probably from people who hate Sanderson on principle. Considering we could have got no ending to the series at all any completion would have been okay. He did a good job putting together all of Jordans notes and trying to writing in someone else's style. Sure he had problems with Matt early on but it came together by the last book for a fitting finale.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:02:19 2018 No.11893944 >>11893930 I'm really not feeling King Arthur, does it transcend that by a lot?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:02:54 2018 No.11893948 File: 699 KB, 1000x4000, Suggestion Chart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11891279

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:02:59 2018 No.11893950 >>11893921 >I'm going to doubt anyone here has read Eco. I read Name of the Rose this summer and enjoyed it, but it's not really relevant to the thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:03:33 2018 No.11893954 >>11893883 I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that were true. Feist was great at the whole world building and magic stuff but sucked at plot and characters. The Empire books had none of his main problems but still had the really interesting setting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:08:05 2018 No.11893972 >>11893948 >Dude, I'm a bit lost and looking for something to get back into fantasy shit. >No problem bro, here take this mess of a chart full with shit you've never heard of and just roll with it, lmao.

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:09:42 2018 No.11893977

>>11893944
As far as the legend of King Arthur, not really. But I really enjoyed the dark age setting, the battles were all fantastically done, the villains were great (especially compared to the clowns in Wheel of Time) and the clash between paganism and Christianity. Dervel is a beast too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:09:48 2018 No.11893978 >>11891286 I googled this shit. It's a Russian cover of a Polish book. Where is the fucking English?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:13:13 2018 No.11893992 >>11891352 Fuck this guy. Tigana was great, but I read his earth and sky shit and the only fantasy was a Japanese ancestor spirit following the girl around. And I had to read hundreds of pages to find that out. Fuck ggk.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:13:46 2018 No.11893994 >>11893948 >Storm Front is this about a protag who hunts down key members of the ZOG

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:18:18 2018 No.11894016 How should one go about binge-watching Legend of the Galactic Heroes?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:18:40 2018 No.11894017 >>11893992 >I need magic systems and sword fight on meteors!

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:26:56 2018 No.11894047

>>11894016
It's really not worth your time. Sure, it's the best anime has to offer for someone looking for fantasy or scifi on a grander scale with somewhat interesting worldbuilding, but it's still worthless compared to the many things you could read in that time. Watch the movies in beautiful 1080p for their genuinely high production standard and ignore the rest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:39:29 2018 No.11894181 File: 2.58 MB, 3000x3000, 1512676895357.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11893972 >hasn't read in 3 years >expects him to know what's what Maybe he'll like this one

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:42:13 2018 No.11894187 >>11893948 that's legitimately the most horrifying chart i've ever seen, what in the fuck is wrong with you?

Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:43:54 2018 No.11894193

>>11894017
When I read fantasy, i expect something fantastical. Not historical retellings with very, very, minor glimpses of something fantastic, fhat you aren't sure is there.

Kys you cunt. You were probably the filthy faggot that post the Russian covers that memed me into reading it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:44:53 2018 No.11894197 >>11894181 Your post doesn't make any sense desu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:46:15 2018 No.11894204 File: 1.68 MB, 2000x3000, Modern Fantasy Recs V2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11894187 >what in the fuck is wrong with you? I've been in sffg from the inception.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:46:27 2018 No.11894207 File: 255 KB, 550x550, 99FA142B-5E9B-4DA4-BF5F-BD7F134BF797.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11893485 >it’s not until you’re broken that you find your sharpest edge

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:47:19 2018 No.11894213 >>11894197 Learn2read greentext then

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:49:23 2018 No.11894220 >>11894193 Could you get more specific? Which of his works didn't you enjoy, which ones were worth your time? I've not read anything from him and might get Tigana to get started.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:50:00 2018 No.11894225 >>11893948 god i hope this is bait

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:51:16 2018 No.11894228 >>11894220 >names book >earth and sky >which book are you talking about .....

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:52:56 2018 No.11894231 >>11894225 >if I don't like something it's bait Nice coping mechanism you have there

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:53:28 2018 No.11894234 >>11894181 I’ll be sure to avoid these thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:54:17 2018 No.11894237 >>11894228 It wasn't clear if you just mean the 2016 book or also some of his other historical stuff that is apparently interconnected in some way, give me a break bro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:54:44 2018 No.11894239 >>11894231 The categories are all over the place, not even talking about the contents it's a fucking mess

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:55:22 2018 No.11894241 >>11894204 Why is the 5th season on here? Come on man

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:57:49 2018 No.11894247 >>11893948 Lotta shit on this list. Biggest turd is steel world tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 21:59:23 2018 No.11894253 File: 69 KB, 578x441, emperors blades.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] remind me never to read reviews on goodreads again

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:01:06 2018 No.11894259 >>11894253 you have only yourself to blame.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:01:54 2018 No.11894264 The joke in >>11893948 is that it's shit. Look at how bad the recommendations are and how nonsensical the categories are. You all are humorless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:04:36 2018 No.11894273 >>11894239 You try and make a chart. It's hard work. There isn't a template, you do everything from scratch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:05:19 2018 No.11894276 >>11894253 Bet the girl that wrote this is a 6 pushing 7

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:06:47 2018 No.11894280 >>11894276 more like pushing 300

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:07:46 2018 No.11894283 >>11894264 He has a version 2 as well with jemisin included to boot. Doesn't seem like bait, he's just that challenged. probably a redditor that lost his way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:09:01 2018 No.11894289 >>11894283 >Doesn't seem like bait The first category is "gay rape and incest." It is a joke. Not everything is meant to be taken seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:09:01 2018 No.11894290 >>11894264 Each category was something frequently requested from the threads over the years. I just put books I read into the categories. Also hello newfag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:11:21 2018 No.11894300 File: 61 KB, 800x600, GRI APPROVED.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11894289 Please stop embarrassing yourself newfag. >>11894283 I never went to redshit. And I wish mentioning that site was still bannable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:13:36 2018 No.11894305 >>11894253 >emperor's blades >female special forces >they still complain

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:14:35 2018 No.11894311 >>11894289 >The first category is "gay rape and incest." It is a joke >they made a gri chart as a joke >>11894181 gri is a sffg defining standard of quality Every great book has some combinations of gri in it. gri is a form of life

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:14:54 2018 No.11894312 File: 24 KB, 300x250, 1533994830858.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11894289

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:15:18 2018 No.11894314 >>11894305 Sooner or later they'll realize you can't pander to a black hole.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:18:24 2018 No.11894325 REBIRTH!!! >>11894323 >>11894323 >>11894323 >>11894323 >>11894323

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:22:27 2018 No.11894340 >>11891279 The first Amber series by Zelazny is fun sword & sorcery Vurt by Noon has cyberpunk style prose but is modern fantasy with a unique magic system The Night Circus by Morgenstern is Victorian era magic with great prose None are grimderp

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 6 22:58:05 2018 No.11894464 >>11894253 it would be fine if women were just banned

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