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11863634 No.11863634 [Reply] [Original]

>"start participating in the cosmic war of becoming"

>> No.11863641

please don't do this
delete this thread
don't do this

>> No.11863647

>>11863634
In the what? Is this from Finnegan's Wake?

>> No.11863651

holy shit /lit/ is catching on

>> No.11863658

>>11863651
To what? Who is the guy in OP's pic?

>> No.11863662

>>11863658
that's not a guy, that's amy ireland

>> No.11863665

>>11863658
STOP she's a girl she's called amy ireland read this and never come back https://www.academia.edu/24546212/Poetry_is_Cosmic_War_Interview_

>> No.11863701

>>11863665
>>11863641
>>11863658
>>11863634
GREAT THREAD!

>> No.11863706

>>11863701
:(

>> No.11863824
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11863824

she looks like a good person and /lit/'s gonna ruin her.

>> No.11863879

ah christ, are we actually doing this

>> No.11863901
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>>11863634
what is xenopoetics

>> No.11863903

>>11863662
>>11863665
>>11863665

>reverse search
>Best guess for this image: gentleman

are you FOCKING with me, cunt?

>> No.11863907

>>11863665
Seems reasonable

>> No.11863914

xenofeminism is unironically based; is Firestone protoxeno?

>> No.11863921

>>11863914
Shulie? Hell no. They just appropriated some of her anti-naturalism.
For example: Xenofeminists are not anti-natalist.

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>>11863662
Google states it is a boy, and I'm inclined to believe google.

>> No.11864190
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>>11863901
The latest trick of the Big Pseud in its quest to destroy all thought.

>> No.11864207

>>11863879
>>11863641
>>11863651
quick rundown?

>> No.11864209

>>11864207
see
>>11863665

>> No.11864211

>man up

>> No.11864212

>>11864209
that's neither quick nor a rundown.

>> No.11864218

>>11863921
Firestone wasn't anti-natalist she was anti-childbirth. She wanted to use technology to free women from reproduction (not sex)

>> No.11864229

>>11864218
lmao

>> No.11864239
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>>11864212
xenofeminist/accelerationist academic

>> No.11864244

>>11864239
and poet and maybe sorcerer

>> No.11864252

>>11864244
i meant sorceress haha i'm not misogynistic

>> No.11864269

>>11864252
care to share some thoughts on her?

>> No.11864294
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>>11864269
if you like outer-fringe ultra-dark philosophy stuff amy's the jam

https://vastabrupt.com/2018/02/02/the-revolving-door-and-the-straight-labyrinth-part-0/

>> No.11864301

>>11864294
i'm kinda peripheral to this section of modern philosophy, who else is as fringe and dark as her and Land

>> No.11864302

>>11864269
i don't have much, as i like most of what i've seen her do (other than that one time she dunked on derrida which was pretty mean), which includes the poetry and her theory

>> No.11864306

>>11864301
early negarestani? the ccru? sadie plant? mark fisher?

>> No.11864309

>>11864294
Hi Girardfag. Didn't know you already started reading Vast Abrupt.

>>11864301
They inspired some copycats who largely lurk on twitter but are nowhere near as profound as them. Check out Land's followings and the like.

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>>11864301
no human being needs anyone to be *more* fringe or dark as her or land. beyond that horizon there is only the Warp. those two are interesting enough

>especially when one talks about the other
https://www.urbanomic.com/document/poememenon/

and everyone referenced here >>11864306 is worth reading too if you're into this stuff

>>11864309
heyo

& yes ofc, vast abrupt is way cool

>> No.11864338

>There are explicit ontological and methodological connections between xenopoetics and the feminist practice of Laboria Cuboniks - an international transfeminist collective that I have been working with since 2014. Both see human experience as an open system in a meta-system of cosmic becoming; both affirm anti-identity politics (Laboria writes of 'the right to speak as no one in particular' in Xenofeminism: A Politics for Alienation and uses this as a basis from which to advocate for gender fluidity and reject biological determinism)
>dood thuh cosmos is just a trannie doing an interpretation of Terrence McKenna lmao

>> No.11864348

>>11864212
It's the next stage of ultra-pseudery. Unironic They Live with Google Glass.

>> No.11864352

>>11864302
>other than that one time she dunked on derrida which was pretty mean

link? source?

>> No.11864353
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11864353

>XF seizes alienation as an impetus to generate new worlds. We are all alienated – but have we ever been otherwise? It is through, and not despite, our alienated condition that we can free ourselves from the muck of immediacy. Freedom is not a given–and it’s certainly not given by anything ‘natural’. The construction of freedom involves not less but more alienation; alienation is the labour of freedom’s construction. Nothing should be accepted as fixed, permanent, or ‘given’–neither material conditions nor social forms. XF mutates, navigates and probes every horizon. Anyone who’s been deemed ‘unnatural’ in the face of reigning biological norms, anyone who’s experienced injustices wrought in the name of natural order, will realize that the glorification of ‘nature’ has nothing to offer us–the queer and trans among us, the differently-abled, as well as those who have suffered discrimination due to pregnancy or duties connected to child-rearing. XF is vehemently anti-naturalist. Essentialist naturalism reeks of theology–the sooner it is exorcised, the better.

>dood just like give in to the cuntish question of the technocosmos and detourne yourself lmao

>> No.11864359

>>11864352
nothing noteworthy, it was on her twitter. accelerationists have a tendency to take land's shitflinging on derrida seriously so they follow and do the same uncritically

>> No.11864368
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>Why is there so little explicit, organized effort to repurpose technologies for progressive gender political ends? XF seeks to strategically deploy existing technologies to re-engineer the world. Serious risks are built into these tools; they are prone to imbalance, abuse, and exploitation of the weak. Rather than pretending to risk nothing, XF advocates the necessary assembly of techno-political interfaces responsive to these risks. Technology isn't inherently progressive. Its uses are fused with culture in a positive feedback loop that makes linear sequencing, prediction, and absolute caution impossible. Technoscientific innovation must be linked to a collective theoretical and political thinking in which women, queers, and the gender non-conforming play an unparalleled role.

Dear Yale, could you please, ever so kindly, stay the fuck out of my old memes folder? Thanks.

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>>11864386

>> No.11864406

>>11864353
Ye, their "manifesto" is extremely cringe. Helen Hester wrote a short book on xenofeminism, and that was not as bad as this. I consider myself a reactionary naturalist, but have to give it to them that they are at least rigorous and coherent thinkers, unlike lots of other strains of feminism.
Also freedom not being given is always a great point, what divergent conclusions that may lead you to is another story.

>> No.11864412

>>11864207
Sex Girl Patrol reads Donna Harroway At (12:57)
https://youtu.be/ZaIwWRc6U_U?t=12m57s

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>>11864406
>reactionary naturalist
Pic related?

>> No.11864535
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>>11864348

>> No.11864568

>>11864190
Unironically one of the most original thinkers I've read. His answer is the only one that is actually correct. We are too corrupt to accomplish incremental change.

>> No.11864686

>>11864535
kek, this is great

>> No.11864823
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>>11864686
Edited out the white line.

>> No.11864837

YES WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING THIS! THE NEW AGE OF AMYPOSTING IS DAWNING READ HERE AND PREPARE FOR COSMIC WAR

https://zinzrinz.blogspot.com/2018/09/scrap-metal-and-fabric.html

>> No.11864852

>>11864837
Shouldn't experts on poetics be required to write at least a passable poem?

>> No.11864855

This is exactly the kind of meaningless buzzword drivel we need on lit.

>XENO CAPITALO TECHNOCRATIC MAINFRAME VIRUS!!

Literally on the level of a literary >CUMputer...enhance frame right by x10
>CUMputer defrag blow-up
>we got a lisence plate, chief. We got our man.

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>>11864852
Here's ya dang poem, buddy.!

>> No.11864868

>>11864864
but you can't read them in 2D, silly

>> No.11864971

we need an alt-right masculinist version of this

>> No.11864974

>>11864971
No, technology is inherently emasculating.
Harroway was right.

>> No.11865002

>>11864971
nrx?

>> No.11865014

>>11864974
so far. too bad 80s is but a boomers dried puke on his tattered chucks. true accelerationists welcome everything. AltRight Male Xenopoetics now.

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>>11865014
We already have it.

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>>11865014

>> No.11865052

How many poems could a poet poem if a poet could poem poems?

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>>11865014
I've already written the greatest ode to technomasculinism possible:

>> No.11865087

>>11865045
>>11865051
>>11865052
>>11865058OU
TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY! REEEEE. MEN CANT HAVE AN OPTIMISTIC FUTURE, BECAUSE I DONT HAVE AN OPTIMISTIC FUTURE. WE CANT HAVE IT NOT ANYMORE. SOMETHING WAS WRITTEN. AND THEN BOOM WERE DEAD,

>> No.11865093

>>11865087
this is the hardest blackpill. there's no future for us.

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>>11865087
Damn, are you okay?

>> No.11865101

>>11865087
>>11865093
Indeed. But it is going to chew up human females, both bio and trans as well. The future is female but only in the most abstract sense.

>> No.11865111

YOU RUINED MY NEO WEDDING THAT ARRIVES FROM THE FUTURE. REEEE

>> No.11865141

God I'm glad I deleted my twitter last year. The mental strain of constantly interacting with these materials is just too much.

>> No.11865230

>>11863824
She looks like anything but a good person. I would relish to to spit on her grave.

>> No.11866045

>>11864971
it's literally just BAP/NRX pseud hetero meme garbage
>>11865087
read ur sadie plant

>> No.11866073

Imagine believing that the academi has anything whatsoever to do with an avant-garde...

>> No.11866086

All these discount Landians are getting old

>> No.11866115
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>>11863634
is she the 3d landian gf?

>> No.11866315

She writes poetry about cybernetics through a feminist lens?

Wow, brave and powerful

>> No.11866338

>>11866086
He was already Everyday Low Prices, or whatever its Hyper_Anglo equivalent is.

>> No.11866444

>>11863665

How do you think she comes?

>> No.11867241

>>11866444
please respond

>> No.11867260

>>11866086
she is one of the originals. not discount at all

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>>11866444
Through vivisection of the avant-garde she will never know. But little does she anticipate how there is always some greater perversion.

>> No.11867290

>>11867260
Land also talks a lot about sex and how rape is the scariest shit ever.
It's a pseud movement in opposition to men, as 'capital' always was.

>> No.11867301

>>11867290
early Marxist Land in 90s is not comparable to 2010s Land

>> No.11867315

This is what a true accelerationist avant-garde would look like:
>the student sent an instructor “semi-nude and sexually fetishistic images” of himself wearing a diaper and sucking on a soother.

>In the document she said he presented himself to female staff at different campuses — in several cases asking them to change his soiled diapers. Eventually he came to Roth complaining of discrimination.
>"He's unfortunately obsessed with the fecal matter," said Roth.
https://www.columbiavalleypioneer.com/news/b-c-university-students-diaper-fetish-now-a-human-rights-issue/
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-island-university-fetish-student-professor-fired-1.4400306

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>>11867301
Are you sure?

>> No.11867326

What a fucker dumpster fire of a woman, what dumpster fire of a philosophy, what a dumpster fire of poet and what a dumpster fire of a thread. Fuck off and die you posthuman cunts.

>> No.11867330

nick land can fuck off, so his gf

>> No.11867578

>>11867319
https://soundcloud.com/bestrack/6-burn-the-night-bestrack?in=bestrack/sets/bestrack-workout-2000

>> No.11868042

>>11867241
could you reword that

>> No.11868195

>>11866045
plant has good arguments for the cyber feminine. its losing its edge fast like haraway. although they are mostly handpicked, they do not touch on diverse fields unlike Land. Even on the occult side of things there is no preference on sexual dominance in relating to technology. it is a constant play between two. if she couldve traced a rigorous biological pattern she would be more than a side note of Land. and main reason why the Landian right is creaming itself in HBD.

>> No.11868394

>>11864229
that's the obvious far-future.

>> No.11868452

the only "cosmic war" l know is cosmic war metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ipQ_ly0IUA

>> No.11868459

>>11868452
nice ÖÖGHs

>> No.11868542

>>11868452
Lyrics are pretty fitting desu

>> No.11868582

>>11865230
>giving them any headspace

>> No.11868593

>>11863634
>this roastie gets a longer thread filled with more discussion than the actual greats

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>>11867578
Capital has no ears to let it hear.

>> No.11868610

>>11864535
It's weird when you realise you're living in a cyberpunk era (or at least the very early stages)

>> No.11868653

>>11867326
in no way do i endorse or admire the woman in question, however, your reply is like the red flare of a rube in distress, unable to comprehend the floes that surround him, lashing out in his own futile vocabulary uselessly against the sea in which he is stranded, for the rube knows only the language of annoyance, because annoyance is the emotion of the inept