>But that writer is racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic

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Anonymous Sat Sep 29 19:08:23 2018 No.11863053 [Reply] [Original]

>But that writer is racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 19:09:44 2018 No.11863057 oh no....social turbulence..... shudders

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 19:54:43 2018 No.11863281 >>11863053 Something to keep in mind, yes

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 20:00:35 2018 No.11863311 TS Eliot was racist and who denies the importance of the Wasteland?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 20:03:25 2018 No.11863337 >>11863281 This, it gives insight into their writing most of the time

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 20:07:26 2018 No.11863356 File: 161 KB, 749x541, IMG_20180824_235714.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] By todays standard, anyone born before 1950 is a racist for holding, at the time, centrist views anyways so who cares.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 20:09:21 2018 No.11863365 You have to love me for everything that I am before I'll read you

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 20:11:04 2018 No.11863373 >Oh no that writer is female/marxist/anarchist/gay

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 20:12:20 2018 No.11863381 >>11863365 This might be nice to cultivate positive vibes - but it does nothing to gain resistance to negative vibes. You’re building a spiritual house of cards.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 20:14:26 2018 No.11863393 >>11863381 Well, what's wrong with us removing all neg-vibers? Problem solved.

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 20:31:09 2018 No.11863505
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>>11863053
its getting fucking crazy, especially seeing people like r crumb, a communist and progressive, booed at comic festivals because of his openness about his sexism and weird fetishes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 20:37:38 2018 No.11863535 If every /lit/ member gets gulaged would it really be herstory's greatest tragedy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 21:10:13 2018 No.11863690 Anyone thats not racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic is a low IQ subhuman and should not be taken serious in any way, shape or form

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 21:14:07 2018 No.11863710

>>11863690
Let’s make a distinction here. I think that God would have us understand homosexuality as a very terrible sin. History teaches us that homosexuality is predominant in a cultures decline, like with the Greeks or Romans. It’s a signal of a sinful, decadent culture.

The Koran speaks of cities that have been suited by God for giving in to homosexuality.

Women are a little less pure than men, that much is visibly true.

But I have no problem with the trend of women being empowered, as long as we only empower those who are virtuous, see that’s the problem

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 21:17:20 2018 No.11863720 here is a fun game, think of a classic literature author or writer, and write thier name into google and the word "jew"

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 21:27:07 2018 No.11863764 >>11863720 God, Jews are insufferable http://www.cjnews.com/uncategorized/les-miserables-jewish-problem

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 21:33:01 2018 No.11863786 File: 288 KB, 542x529, 1507559094571.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863053 >that writer is really good, but if he wasn't racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/ableist, he would be my favorite of all time

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 21:54:18 2018 No.11863902 >>11863393 The true task is to take in all of the world and still keep a joyful spirit. Don't look away.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 23:12:09 2018 No.11864260 >>11863373 You could have replaced all 4 of those words with Jewish and it would have been simpler (and more true to life).

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 23:17:06 2018 No.11864289

>>11863053
Do any of you guys ever just admit that you're x-ist around these people? I dont mean in like a super edgy way, but once in a while Ill be at a bar or something and just say fuck it, and explain to them that yes i am racist, sexist, variously phobic etc. It's like they don't really know what to say, the most Ive really gotten out of them is that I need to 'educate myself' to which I respond that the more you read about race and sex the clearer it is what's going on. This usually just draws accusations of me being a diettante, and the conversation changes topics.

These are not people i know for the record, these are randoms i meet, who can just write me off as being some unedcuated bigot that they dont have to care about.

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 23:29:50 2018 No.11864330

>>11864289
It's actually pretty fun if you know you're in an area where it can't compromise you in other ways. Most liberals have literally never had anyone seriously challenge their perspective from either the right or the left. While the right has a significantly more biting critique of the modern world, the left has a level of safety and acceptance within the status quo that is appealing to many normies. They tend to be just smart enough to figure out that something is seriously wrong, but they are neither curious nor brave enough to pursue it beyond what is easily and safely available to them (which tends to lead to bourgeois AnCom larping or to UBI technofuedalism).

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 23:39:07 2018 No.11864365 >x author has leftoid political views looks like I can't like that author any more :^(

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 23:40:30 2018 No.11864371 Implying you've ever heard anyone say this outside of cherry picked images from /pol/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 23:43:00 2018 No.11864385 File: 32 KB, 680x329, cc8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863053 life;s too short to read books written by white men.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 23:47:22 2018 No.11864404 File: 1.30 MB, 1200x2168, 1200px-Jupiter_and_Semele_by_Gustave_Moreau.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864385 that dosn't mean i won't skim the wikipedia about them and their works. I'd hate to be ill-informed

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 23:50:45 2018 No.11864419

>>11864371
People actually say that all the time. Granted you tend to hear it more from women and gays than men, but the number of girls I've tutored who complained about how racist/sexist/homophobic/heretical in some other fashion some book they had to read for class was is fairly staggering. Even books written by people who were intending to be anti-racist like Man In the High Castle by PKD they couldn't understand beyond their feeling of shock at his use of the word chink.

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 23:56:41 2018 No.11864434

>>11864419
>they couldn't understand beyond their feeling of shock at his use of the word chink.
these people are so tiring. It's like trying to talk to Muslims about Allah, you just arent going to get anywhere and theyll become enraged basically immediately

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 00:00:58 2018 No.11864448

the dismissal of all authors who show signs of racism/homophobia/transphobia/etc. is exactly the kind of destructive and revolutionary impulse that society in general, and a fortiori, art as well, needs. It would be even better if people were serious about it and really did stop reading all authors with objectionable views instead of engaging in a boring and ceaseless debate about whether such a dismissal is "justified".

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 00:07:03 2018 No.11864483

>>11864448
Congratulations, you've gotten your revolutionary world in which everyone has stopped reading authors they morally disagree with (basically everything that isn't explicitly about POC shoving things up their bums or women complaining about how men don't consider them equal despite not being equivalent in any possible way). What are you going to do next with your enlightened revolutionary class?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 00:07:33 2018 No.11864485 >>11864434 alternate history is passe as fukk, you best be teaching a history class with context.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 00:09:19 2018 No.11864488 >>11863505 You would thunk a guy who hates trump would be backed by sjws.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 00:11:35 2018 No.11864497 >>11864419 >Man In the High Castle alternate history is passe as fukk, in what context are you teaching this played out book?

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 00:12:37 2018 No.11864501

>>11864483
>What are you going to do next

I don't understand this question. "I'm" not doing anything, in this hypothetical scenario they're the ones doing it. Whatever "big thing" happens next as a causal consequence isn't easy for me to predict but whatever it was I would accept it

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 00:14:02 2018 No.11864506 >>11864497 It was assigned in one of the students Intro to Comp classes. I'm just a part time session tutor while I finish my PhD, not a professor.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 00:15:33 2018 No.11864511 >>11864448 They won't because hypocrits, so we're stuck with the tedious cultural schizophrenia circus and you'll remain blueballed for the duration.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 00:16:06 2018 No.11864513 >>11864501 The "big thing" is the slow descent into Gay Space Communism™ (this time with illiterate brown people) sponsored by Alphabet Inc, Amazon and Visa.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 00:24:13 2018 No.11864540 >>11864371 You obviously never browse mainstream news sources

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 00:36:28 2018 No.11864590 >>11864540 is 4chan a mainstream news source?

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 00:36:35 2018 No.11864592

>>11863393
That’s a pretty nego vibe towards negative people...

RADICAL NORMIE ACCEPTANCE NOW!

>>11864289
I’ve had success dropping it when I phrase it as a way forward : “I’m a racist. It’s 2018 dude, ain’t no purity anymore. I’m a racist too. I don’t let these facts keep me from working on it.“

You’re right about “uneducated” people on the right being slightly more open to being challenged than on the left. The key is to just avoid certain words and they’ll follow you along pretty far.

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 00:51:30 2018 No.11864642

>>11864419
>>11864434
Don’t forget neoliberals and any hit of anti-capitalism going to “Stalin killed trillions” in 2 sentences.

>>11864501
Lol. Zizek talks about exactly your conundrum. The day after is never, ever present in the revolutionary fantasy. It’s because it’s religious in nature. The question asks you to wonder what living in heaven would be like. It’s /unimaginably/ good - you just need to work hard right now to get there.

I get the urge to smash - but it’s all done in negativity : you actually have no idea what you’re fighting for. You conceive of revolution as a straight line from the dirty present to the amazing future. It may have to smash some things along the way - but it’s a straight line nonetheless. Remember that the road to hell is paved in good intentions. Always, always, always be suspicious of your intentions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 00:55:00 2018 No.11864657 >>11864642 I actually like Stalinists more than neolibs to be perfectly honest. They will usually at least debate

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 01:00:06 2018 No.11864684 >>11864540 Source?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 02:00:03 2018 No.11864899 >people defending the dissmissal of anything they don't like because "that's the future" in this thread >people being softcore book burners with any book from an author they don't like/disagree with we lost the cultural world 60 years ago

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 02:14:31 2018 No.11864945 This oppression of working minds is why the top writers write under pseudonyms at LULZ.com.

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 02:34:05 2018 No.11864992

>>11864330
>hey tend to be just smart enough to figure out that something is seriously wrong, but they are neither curious nor brave enough to pursue it beyond what is easily and safely available to them
That's because most of them are atheists or Christians in name only who don't believe in anything higher than themselves or humanity. If they do so much as even question the world around them or their internal monologue, they end up becoming blackpilled, depressed, and suicidal. Nihilism is the logical conclusion of atheism, and there is only one way it can end for you once you realize how shitty and irredeemable the world is. The redpill will destroy you if you don't have a spiritual support.

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 02:47:32 2018 No.11865038

>>11863356
The best way to counter these attacks is just embrace the categorization you're placed in and demand an argument against it. Most are used to pathetic denial of being a racist/sexist/whatever when those terms are used against someone so they freeze when it's not denied. I'm a good looking non white so I take advantage of my contempory social class by pushing the buttoms of the political retards around me, like saying women should not be allowed to vote. Of course I'll be called a misogynist but I don't deny it and ask for an argument why I shouldn't think women are inferior. When they stumble over their words it's fucking hilarious because 99% of people don't even know why they shouldn't be those things besides the fact that they are vilified by mainstream media and philosophy

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 02:50:26 2018 No.11865047 >>11863053 >but that writer is a sjw

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 05:08:42 2018 No.11865362 >>11865038 Based and Redpilled

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 05:36:18 2018 No.11865411 >>11864289 I explained why prejudice makes sense in a counselling class once and everyone seemed ok with it.

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 06:03:14 2018 No.11865465

>>11865038
Discrimination based on any number of properties (including race) is the most normal thing in the world. You literally can't be a normally functioning person if you don't discriminate others all the time. Most of this discrimination is subconscious and socially acceptable, nobody makes a big deal out of it.

>>11865411
People can be OK with many things, it's pretty much all about framing and the charisma of the presenter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 06:38:25 2018 No.11865525 what is actually wrong with racism/sexism/homo"phobia"? It's pushed so much I don't even understand the reasoning anymore, it's just >this is racist so it's bad

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 06:41:24 2018 No.11865531 File: 55 KB, 640x512, 1460383753619.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >when the writer is an anti-semite

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 07:48:23 2018 No.11865638 >>11865525 It gives negative vibes. I don't read to feel negative by passive aggressive ranting

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 07:49:45 2018 No.11865639

>>11865465
>You literally can't be a normally functioning person if you don't discriminate others all the time.
That's like saying you can't normally function without calling black people niggers all the time. Try it at your top programming job at the bay area and see what happens

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 08:00:30 2018 No.11865648

>>11865639
>That's like saying you can't normally function without calling black people niggers all the time.
No, not at all.
When you refuse to go on a date with a man (assuming you're into women), you're discriminating [based on sex].
When you give a seat to an old lady on a bus you're discriminating [based on age].
And so on and so on. Discrimination can be positive or negative, and it happens all the time, it's part of normal human interactions.
Even if it's negative, it doesn't mean you have to be rude and call people names.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 08:14:04 2018 No.11865673 >>11863505 The base function of any society is control of sexuality. The so-called libertine SJWs are unironically sexual prudes in their own rules.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 08:16:05 2018 No.11865679 >>11863505 Even their beloved DFW should be, by their rules, labeled a massive racist. You only have to go for chapters into IJ to read his first person ebonics literary minstrel show.

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 08:18:51 2018 No.11865685

>>11864289
I just put it this way:

I don't have anything against people of other races. No one chose to be born the way they are. You have to treat people with dignity and respect. But I am just happier and more comfortable around people of my own race, and if I had the option of being only with them for the rest of my life, I would take it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 09:45:40 2018 No.11865867 >>11865638 So, you're basically a child who is looking to read as a "good feelings only" escapism?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 10:11:53 2018 No.11865930 >>11863902 Impossible you'd end up killing yourself

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 10:13:54 2018 No.11865931 >>11865648 I notice he didnt reply to this post because you are 100% right lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 10:17:55 2018 No.11865938 >Caring what bottom of the fucking barrel shit feasting progressives have to say about anything.

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 10:30:09 2018 No.11865976

>>11863505
Crumb has been one of the only people in comics who has kept it from demoting itself further as an art. I love comics but the fanbase is 99.9% capeshit apologists. If I ever became invisible the first thing I would do would be to go to any comics convention and shout "STAR TREK RAPE" or "STAR WARS GOOOOK/racist word etc." just to see them squirm without a target.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 10:32:24 2018 No.11865989 Why do you even think about these people? Why do you even make threads about these people? We all know you're just complaining about bottom of the barrel retards on twitter, so why not just unfollow them and stop being a whiny fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 10:57:16 2018 No.11866072 >>11865867 Reading is escapism

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 11:35:47 2018 No.11866229 >>11864289 People tend to be shocked when I start talking about eugenics until I rationalise it. Everyone always ends up agreeing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 11:39:22 2018 No.11866243 >>11866072 Reading can be escapism, it doesn't need to be. It can also be self-improvement, intellectually challenging, and philosophically fulfilling.

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 11:51:38 2018 No.11866312
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>>11865938
if you want to stick it to consumerism, conformity and the putrid values of corporate america, you must become antigay, you must become transphobic, racist and you must become a literal FASCIST. or else, risk being assimilated into the same unthinking monoculture of starbucks sippers, pink haired queers, 'woke' investment bankers and beardo fatasses with marvel comics tees. only the swastika can drive out the rainbow. the lighting and the sun. esoteric hitlerism. Charlie Manson is the one true revolutionary spokesman of the turned on counterculture youth of America. i grew up amongst east coast upper middle class progs, and just look at me now, i am a right old skinhead. Sieg F*cking Heil! that's right. F*ck ZOG and Smash Cultural Marxism!

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 12:07:52 2018 No.11866367 >>11863356 By today's standard anyone alive today holding centrist views is racist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 12:17:34 2018 No.11866402 >>11866367 At this rate being racist will be seen as something normal, and any opposing views will be seen as being an extremist. It's all going full circle.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 12:45:07 2018 No.11866478 >>11865930 better luck next life...

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 12:46:32 2018 No.11866482 >>11865648 man - it must suck to be such a small person with such a small range if life experiences. I guess maybe you get some points for cuteness?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 13:10:13 2018 No.11866583 >>11863373 all of those get love in /lit/ though

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 13:11:08 2018 No.11866586 >>11866482 Good job not addressing what he said and snarkily vomiting a pointless post, you guys lose literally every single argument you enter

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 13:14:31 2018 No.11866598 >>11864483 have a huge orgy on our collective weed farm

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 13:19:19 2018 No.11866613

>>11864642
I'm not sure what you mean by this, but most of the illiberal right is pretty against neoliberal capitalism. Stalin and Mao did kill significantly more people than Hitler or Mussolini, but I'm not expecting Tankies to apologise for Stalin anymore than I'm willing to apologise for Hitler. History is what it is, and we can choose to learn from the mistakes of people both with and against our personal ideological bends, or we can choose to ignore them and pretend the faults of our ideological God's don't exist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 13:27:02 2018 No.11866643 >>11864501 You total bloody faggot haha

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 15:55:09 2018 No.11867259

You faggots really are schizophrenic, arguing with imaginary people. Show me 1 (one) person saying this.
>>11865525
>>this is racist so it's bad
Exactly. I'll explain this slowly so your brainlet/underage brain can keep up. Most people interact with colored people everyday, and have no problem with them. A lot even have colored friends. Therefore, most people aren't comfortable with calls to hang niggers or some shit.
>sexism
Same thing. Half the population is women, and everyone interacts with women, everyone has a mother, therefore most people aren't comfortable with the idea of "putting them back in the kitchen" or whatever.
>homophobia
Same thing. No one gives a shit. People treat faggots like any other person, so most people aren't comfortable with calls to shoot fags.
>it's pushed so hard
Spend less time on r/pol and stop arguing with imaginary people.

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 16:09:27 2018 No.11867323

>>11867259
>arguing with imaginary people
...says guy arguing with imaginary people.

>most people aren't comfortable with calls to hang niggers
You know very well that pretty much nobody says that and also that people get called racist (pejorative) for much milder things.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 18:52:06 2018 No.11868089 >>11865038 This

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 19:05:10 2018 No.11868135 >>11863764 The fuck is this bullshit? Are jews really this narcissistic that they have to project themselves onto everything?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 19:08:53 2018 No.11868140 >>11864289 >>11864330 ISHYGDDY

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>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 20:01:37 2018 No.11868327 File: 26 KB, 524x400, YwzzTfz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >when people devalue bigotry by letting their resentiment get in the way

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 20:14:14 2018 No.11868380 OK, lit, here is the question, share some good > racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic authors.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 21:00:30 2018 No.11868553 >>11865685 You're in denial.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 21:04:20 2018 No.11868573 >>11868135 yes, obviously. did you just wake up from a coma that started in 2015 (BC)?

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 03:38:42 2018 No.11869794

>>11863053
but there's nothing wrong with suppression of sinful speech and pursuit of the right kind of ideological purity, i have a unprogrammed, deep-seated hatred of racism and homophobia. unlike normies, i don't get triggered when someone says faggot and nigger, i just know it is a serious trangression and in my left wing theocracy they would be put to death or sentenced to hard labour.

people who think this post is ironic in anyway, or people who publish satire or employ irony in their writings will also be executed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 03:54:45 2018 No.11869807 There's nothing i hate more than a normie leftist, literally seethe every time i see one of them post their spoonfed msm opinion as if i hadn't heard that tripe before.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 04:09:37 2018 No.11869836

>>11863764
>But as I left the movie theatre, I turned to my husband and said, “This is about the Jews.”
Jesus Christ. Also, for the record, Christian theology fulfills mercy and justice. It is *literally* the crux of the religion. Christ suffered and died to satisfy the law while extending mercy to those who do not deserve it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 04:10:42 2018 No.11869838 >>11866613 >is pretty against neoliberal capitalism. No one on the right is whining that much about outsourcing and trying to prevent it. Even Trump’s tariffs seemed to be more about against China than for American industry

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 04:19:12 2018 No.11869860

>>11864501
>Whatever "big thing" happens next as a causal consequence isn't easy for me to predict but whatever it was I would accept it
History tells us it's a violent overthrow of your civilization by a radically motivated religious group that restores "traditional" values.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 04:58:08 2018 No.11869914 >>11868553 That sure was a good argument against that guy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 05:08:28 2018 No.11869929 >>11868380 Marx ironically

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 05:09:31 2018 No.11869931 >>11869838 >No one on the right is whining that much about outsourcing and trying to prevent it. uwotm8?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 05:24:38 2018 No.11869953 >>11869931 Not much have changed in the Right since Thacter and Reagan came along

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:40:52 2018 No.11870212

>>11869953
Even though it's pretty obvious you're talking out your ass, the right wing is literally running on populism and protectionism in basically every country that the right has had success in since 2016. Trump ran on protectionism, Conte ran on protectionism, Brexit was about preservation of the ethnic make up of England and protection of the jobs English people work, Orban ran on protectionism etc. The whole "radical right" as it stands right now is nationalist and opposed to both outsourcing of jobs, and importing labor as a means of suppressing wage growth. For God's sake you have the most popular right wing pundit in America going on television every night talking about how immigration effects jobs for Americans and how it's better for America to retain manufacturing and labor positions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:44:18 2018 No.11870219 >>11864483 Crashing this culture. With no surviors!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:59:04 2018 No.11870249 >>11864404 dank painting

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:12:15 2018 No.11870268

>>11863505
It pisses me off that there were people at SPX who never read Robert Crumb and booed him based on their google image searches or what they'd heard about him. These are people that only know about mainstream fantasy comics and fanart they saw on tumblr, people that never even got into more experimental challenging stuff. I hate all this twee wacom tablet art. People can't handle ugly ideas or negative emotions apparently, even when it's critiquing the same things they critique. I guess your characters have to be nice and everything has to be "thoughtful", sensitive and comforting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:38:34 2018 No.11870664 >>11863710 >History teaches us that homosexuality is predominant in a cultures decline, like with the Greeks or Romans Why do pseuds always say this bullshit line?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:19:22 2018 No.11870773 >>11864385 >be liberal >plan to die at 28 from violent revolt, STDs, cholera, or even just boredom >life is almost too short to read even one great work of Russian literature they mean it literally

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:24:56 2018 No.11870785 >>11863053 good

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:54:32 2018 No.11870881

>>11870664
Cause it’s simplistic and requires little thought about the real world. Society’s don’t collapse from massively complex issue way beyond our understanding that could already be happening for all we know. It’s just the icky gay and there icky gayness

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 12:04:12 2018 No.11870929

>>11867259
How does the mere existence of black peoples or woman disprove prejudice against them. Hitler was from a Jewish family dose that make home not an anitsemite? Everyone has had a mother and a father so has sexism never existed. was no one ever stereotyping anyone based on gender. Your trying to logic out the reasoning behind bigotry but there is no reason to it in there first place there is only emotionally overriding reason

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 12:04:34 2018 No.11870932 >>11863053 Isnt that an Ad Homimeme or something? Even /pol/ has an stick with those logic stuff

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 12:05:26 2018 No.11870937 >>11868380 Lovecraft

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 12:07:52 2018 No.11870951 >>11863710 You do know the Roman Empire was throughly christanised by the end right. Homosexuality was only frowned upon druing it decline. Also Alexander the Great was gay so the main who built the Greek empire was apparently part of it decline

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 12:08:43 2018 No.11870958 >>11869860 Sounds based, someone needs to undo the violent overthrow of our civilization by a radically motivated religious group that destroyed traditional values.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 12:21:30 2018 No.11871022

>>11870958
What even are these “traditional values”. If we’re talking pure tradition then radical Islam has the same claim to those values cause even though they may be morally abohorant sharia law is probably the most traditional legal system in practice rn. People act like the West was founded on something from the Bible like the Ten Commandments. But what really make or governments stand out is eleghtemnt values like divsion of power and separation of church and state stuff that directly contradicts the church

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 12:26:04 2018 No.11871037
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>>11866312
>massive international banking schemes have monetized and advertised a fetishistic movement named after the bedrock of all sins
Reality really has jumped the shark. Nothing surprises me anymore

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 12:35:04 2018 No.11871064 >>11863053 >A writer is racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic means the work is automatically flawless

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 12:36:34 2018 No.11871070 >>11871022 >divsion of power and separation of church and state see this is a meme. There is always a sovereign, and there is always a state church

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 12:39:00 2018 No.11871081 >>11871064 That isn't what is being said though

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 12:41:32 2018 No.11871090 >>11871081 That's buying into the argument. Now, as a degenerate, you surely are of the opinion that degeneracy is good. Unless you're of the opinion degeneracy is bad. But then what sort of degenerate would you be?

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 12:41:52 2018 No.11871094
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>>11871022
Enlightenment was a mistake.

>Accordingly, I think that it is well to warn studious and able young men, who fear God and are seeking for happiness of life, not to venture heedlessly upon the pursuit of the branches of learning that are in vogue beyond the pale of the Church of Christ, as if these could secure for them the happiness they seek; but soberly and carefully to discriminate among them. And if they find any of those which have been instituted by men varying by reason of the varying pleasure of their founders, and unknown by reason of erroneous conjectures, especially if they involve entering into fellowship with devils by means of leagues and covenants about signs, let these be utterly rejected and held in detestation. Let the young men also withdraw their attention from such institutions of men as are unnecessary and luxurious. But for the sake of the necessities of this life we must not neglect the arrangements of men that enable us to carry on intercourse with those around us. I think, however, there is nothing useful in the other branches of learning that are found among the heathen, except information about objects, either past or present, that relate to the bodily senses, in which are included also the experiments and conclusions of the useful mechanical arts, except also the sciences of reasoning and of number.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 12:44:02 2018 No.11871104 >>11870951 >Alexander the Great was gay No he wasn't. He physically could not have been, homosexuality was invented by European Progressives. Since Alexander was a time traveler, do you think he conquered his empire via firearma and tanks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 12:44:31 2018 No.11871107 >>11871090 I'm the "hates jews and abuses too much cocaine degenerate." Not the rainbows and tolerance kind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 14:08:44 2018 No.11871432 >>11870219 If I pull that nose off, will you survive?

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 14:33:38 2018 No.11871514

>>11864289
Of course they wouldn't know what to say you jackass, do you really think the average person have a bunch of counter arguments and sources on the top of their heads just for the rare cases of an random autist from /lit/ wants to sit down in a bar and debate? Do you realize that you're in a setting where people are trying drink and wind down? The last thing they want to do is spend an entire night debating and stressing with someone with a checklist of reasons why they are a certain "ist" or "phobic." It's almost like it's your first time leaving the internet and actually speaking to people. In real life people are going to easily write you off as a bigot and never debate or talk to you on the subject or at all, have you ever considered how annoying and obnoxious it is alone to sit through that when they can go else where to have a better conversation? Don't pat yourself on the back.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 15:03:32 2018 No.11871627 >>11863505 Is that Serena?

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 15:04:54 2018 No.11871637

>>11870881
Arent you missing what he said? Hes saying that its present, as a symptom, of decline. He never said it's the reason for its decline. Two very different things. Not saying I agree, but if you're gonna critique him at least critique him for something he said and not something you made up

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 15:05:34 2018 No.11871641 >>11863053 All the better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 15:05:51 2018 No.11871643 >>11865930 that is so that uh that might happen, honestly

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 15:09:11 2018 No.11871654 >>11863710 Actually bait or really uneducated. The Bible does revile heterosexuality more so than homosexuality. Interestingly enough, it does see transgender people being the symbol of decline.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 15:14:56 2018 No.11871671 >>11863053 >>11871641 I'm convinced Aristotle said that women have fewer teeth than men as a domestic violence joke.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 15:25:04 2018 No.11871727

>>11865648
None of the things you've listed are discrimination as in:
>the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.
Me (a heterosexual man who's not in any form attracted to men) refusing to date a gay man isn't mistreatment or even objectively prove of prejudice, it's me alone being biologically hardwired to not having an interest of having a loving or sexual relationship with man but that doesn't won't be friends or respect that person. Deciding to give a seat to an old lady on a bus isn't a deep moral dilemma on the conversation of ageism. Anon, you're conflating the definitions of prejudice and discrimination, which is common because they both can go hand and hand but are completely different concepts alone.
>Even if it's negative, it doesn't mean you have to be rude and call people names.
Come on Anon, don't come at people with that weak shit. If you lose your job and home because of someone with that power fits your weird ass definition of "negative-Discrimination" you would be just as rude and bitter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 15:26:44 2018 No.11871738 >>11871727 >it's me alone being biologically hardwired um wow stemlord bigot much???? sex is socially constructed sweaty

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 15:28:02 2018 No.11871746 >>11871738 >sweaty I kek'd

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 15:28:28 2018 No.11871751 >>11863373 This but unironically (with the exception of gay writers, who are based af)

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 15:36:44 2018 No.11871792

>>11863710
Homosexuality was very common upon educated greeks and romans, but it was accepted as a normal expression of love between men, they didnt see it as a sexuality, you fucking asshole.
The behaviour that you are talking about refers to the actitude of feminized and weak men who tend to appear in the decline of civilizations

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 15:40:28 2018 No.11871812 >>11871514 >It's almost like Your kind can't hide.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 15:46:49 2018 No.11871844
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The problem, really, is that normal, disinterested, everyday people cannot, or will not, do something that really should be very simple: separating art from its artist. Separating a creation from its creator. It's like it's impossible for these people, though it shouldn't be at all.

PoMo-related critical theories (racism, feminism, anticolonialism, etc.) have traces of this too, though it's often more about the culture/time period/context of a piece of lit, but the problem is the same: the work is being judged based not strictly on the actual, textual content but on outside beliefs, ethics, morals, etc.

Really, it's all very self-indulgent and blinding. It makes me angry to try and discuss things with people and have them go, "Yeah, but wasn't X [insert -ist here]"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 15:49:44 2018 No.11871857 >>11865679 I always thought that was white Boston southie

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 16:06:36 2018 No.11871916

>>11871727
I can paste some definitions of discrimination too, look:
>the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually
>the quality or power of finely distinguishing
>the act of making or perceiving a difference
etc.

Anyway, your refusal of dating men fits quite nicely. You could have a great time getting fucked in the ass, but you categorically refuse to do that. And you're potentially hurting another person with that bigotry, so it's also mistreatment and prejudice.
It's exactly like not wanting to have black neighbors, for example, and you can find the same excuses for that too ("I'm biologically hardwired to dislike them" "They're more likely to be criminals and play shitty music" and so on).

>Come on Anon, don't come at people with that weak shit.
What do you mean? Do you go around calling gay men faggots all the time?
Discriminating does not mean being rude. It simply means observing the properties of a person or group and making decisions based on that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 16:26:42 2018 No.11871987 >>11863373 >gay Stop ruining a perfectly good word. They're called "homosexuals" or "fags".

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 16:28:52 2018 No.11871998 >>11871514 lmao. It's just something I do for fun with strangers you sperg >bigot >it's almost like You have to go back

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 16:40:12 2018 No.11872048 >>11871104 >homosexuality was invented by European Progressives aka the Jews

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 18:59:13 2018 No.11872623 File: 11 KB, 265x363, 1537699902696.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863373 This also add jew.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 19:55:24 2018 No.11872863 >>11868553 I'm curious, denial of what?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 19:55:57 2018 No.11872864 >>11871514 >words words words the left literally can't meme

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 17:59:54 2018 No.11874071 File: 671 KB, 2601x2034, xrdctfvgbh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863337 Objectively wrong.

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