Whom of the bunch has the best argument agaisnt democracy?

[Anonymous No.11850966]

[Anonymous No.11850981]

>>11850966
>we're putting together a team

[Anonymous No.11850989]

>>11850966
The ancoms themselves when you see their bickering and talk of theory. Pure fantasy.

[Anonymous No.11850991]

>>11850966
Ever took a poop in your life? Did you ever bother to smell? Humans are just machines designed naturally to make fertile material for plants to grow. We must establish a sadistic order of total control over every living thing on the planet, and annihilate any and all possibly dissidents and invaders.

[Anonymous No.11851001]

>>11850989
yeah, reminds me of the deluded people who thinks communism is achievable, laughable desu

[Anonymous No.11851090]

>>11850966
Plato.
There's really no comparison, and putting them next to these pseuds is an insult.
Ted gets a pass for his ancient spirit.

[Anonymous No.11851134]

>>11851090
of those four it's plato for sure.

but you could make it more interesting by adding a new challenger.

[Anonymous No.11851163]

>>11850989
>>11851001
Examples?

[Anonymous No.11851173]

>>11851134
What is his critique of democracy?

[Anonymous No.11851198]

Examples of (non-bourgeois) democracy historically?

[Anonymous No.11851218]

Ted because of the obvious context - He was there to witness the development of civilization and implication of technological progress.

But Ted has nothing to do with politics.

[Anonymous No.11851225]

>>11851198
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy

[Anonymous No.11851228]

>>11851173
it might just be a phase. if the Spirit has other plans, too bad.

[Anonymous No.11851285]

>>11850966
I only recognize plato and ted. I think top right is hoppe, but idk who bottom left is. Any help?

[Anonymous No.11851294]

>>11851285
*bottom right, fuck sake

[Anonymous No.11851299]

>>11850966
>Ted being against democracy
unless you're saying that democracy is inevitably a result of industrialization, I don't see where the connection comes in

>>11851285
Bottom right is Moldbug

[Anonymous No.11851301]

>>11851285
>>11851294

Mencius Moldbug, the sjw´s worst nightmare

[Anonymous No.11851305]

>>11851285
>>11851294
It's mencius moldbug, who wrote Unqualified Reservations which more or less kickstarted the 'neoreactionary' movement which is said to have influenced the altright in general. His real name is Curtis Yarvin and he's some sort of tech guy, he appears to be independently wealthy because nobody would hire this dude except eccentrics like Thiel

funny anecdote, he once went to meet someone for lunch at the Google building, and his presence literally triggered a silent alarm that brought security guards to escort him from the premises

because he wrote some blog posts

[Anonymous No.11851309]

>>11851299
>unless you're saying that democracy is inevitably a result of industrialization, I don't see where the connection comes in

i just threw him there because i didn´t know who else to add in the image

[Anonymous No.11851317]

>>11851305
>and his presence literally triggered a silent alarm that brought security guards to escort him from the premises

what kind of orwellian state is that? lmao, ingsoc never dies

[Anonymous No.11851326]

>>11850966
Easily Hoppe regarding democracy in particular. However, Ted is the most based and the most correct overall. Plato incorrectly separated form and representation, and presents a bastardised version of Heraclitus who was pretty spot on and recognised that man is nature and must be what he is. In the end, nature will win out over man's rebellion and Moldbug is a fool to bet on tech.

[Anonymous No.11851338]

>>11851299
>unless you're saying that democracy is inevitably a result of industrialization
It kind of is. All forms of ideology are attempts to manage / control / keep productive, unnatural population sizes which could not be sustained (And would not exist) without industrialisation.

[Anonymous No.11851375]

>>11851163
It's just so funny when they think that if modern society collapsed they could rebuild it in an """egalitarian""" way.

[Anonymous No.11851383]

>>11851090
>Ted gets a pass for his ancient spirit.

[Anonymous No.11851460]

>>11851375
Yes, it can't be built in an egalitarian way.
Inequality is built into civilisation.

Which is exactly what Rousseau said... then people "follow him" by doing the complete opposite. Leftists are fucking braindead.

[Anonymous No.11851475]

>>11850966
Hoppe

[Anonymous No.11851480]

>>11851460

I don't think anyone "followed" Rousseau at all but rather it was so that every remotely "democratic" discourse at the time, his included, was nicely packed into the Enlightenment can of ideology and you just had to repeat the words inside of the can while continuing on the normal development of industrial society. Win-win for the bankers and entrepreneurs of the time, as well as those of our time

[Anonymous No.11851540]

>>11851480
This is a very reasonable position. Thanks for the perspective. It seems on the mark.

[Anonymous No.11851577]

>>11851383
I have a weakness for romantic thinkers.
Send me a package.

[Anonymous No.11851628]

>>11851577
But he thinks like a STEM robot

[Anonymous No.11851704]

>>11850966
Plato > Ted > Hoppe > Moldbug

[Anonymous No.11851710]

>>11851628
A STEM robot who was fed LSD as his super-computer mind was still developing**

[Anonymous No.11851718]

>>11851710
no, he was just autistic

[Anonymous No.11851735]

>>11851718
Jesus Christ, everything is "autism" with you fucks, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.11851952]

>>11851460
"Inequality is built into civilisation."
>built into

Or maybe all humans just aren't equal you fucking pseud

[Anonymous No.11852497]

>>11851735
well he was