/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11850842]

How do I attain the bloomer mindset through literature?

[Anonymous No.11850848]

>>11850842
>through literature
You won’t

[Anonymous No.11850869]

>>11850842
Know that there are genuinely good people in this world and realize the cynical belief that good people are merely faking it (i.e. the good neighbor is secretly beating his wife, etc) is just propaganda created by bad people to justify their inclination towards evil.

Once you accept the fact there are good people in this world, you can begin to try harder to become a good person yourself.

[Anonymous No.11850873]

Who added hair to the bloomer? Also stop posting this

[Anonymous No.11850883]

>>11850842
Stop adding stuff to his clothing.

[Anonymous No.11850898]

>>11850869
Imagine being deluded enough to think that there are people who don't have an inclination to evil.

[Anonymous No.11850900]

nietzsche

[Anonymous No.11850930]

>>11850869
Did you actually used to believe good people were pretending?

[Anonymous No.11850945]

>>11850930
It's a common theme in degenerate art and literature. It was actually the point of Silence of the Lambs, since Dr. Lecter realized he was projecting his own evil inclinations unto Clarice, the symbolic lamb.

If you were raised in California like I was, you'd often hear """smart""" people smugly talk about how dumb, good people were actually secret perverts, criminals, wife-beaters, etc. Then I met actual, good conservatives and realized the leftists I grew up with were all projecting.

[Anonymous No.11850952]

>>11850945
>If you were raised in California
Every day I give thanks that I wasn't.

[Anonymous No.11850955]

unironically read Proclus and uzdavinys

[Anonymous No.11850959]

>>11850842
>Phone posting
>latest spammed meme
it hurts lads

[Anonymous No.11850960]

>>11850842
Why don't you suck my boomer dick?

[Anonymous No.11850962]

>>11850945
If you’ve always thought in terms of good and evil you were bound to be conservative

[Anonymous No.11850968]

>>11850869
>Know that there are genuinely good people in this world and realize the cynical belief that good people are merely faking it
this is some weird projection mate

[Anonymous No.11850971]

>>11850945
It isn't that people are "pretending," it's that people have inclinations to both good and evil, and give in to both of them to varying degrees. If you care about conservatism, you'd recognize the importance of restraining and tempering this natural inclination to evil, rather than naively dividing people into "good" and "bad" categories. Maybe you should take a lesson from Christianity about the natural sinfulness of humans.

[Anonymous No.11850973]

literature is for losers and bloomers don't care about it.

[Anonymous No.11850974]

>>11850883
This. The original is the best. I dont mind the hair but dont remove the german march you fuckhead

[Anonymous No.11850979]

>>11850962
>not having a progressive view of a living God who hates homosexuality
We can only move forward

[Anonymous No.11850994]

>>11850971
Yeah yeah, I understand that. A tree that reaches heaven must have roots that reach all the way down to hell and all that. My point is that one of the biggest turning points in my life was realizing there is a substantial class of people who are not only good, but naively good. Like this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqOFUhP6cWk

From the way he talks, you can tell he has probably never been depressed his entire life. People like him radiate a certain kind of goodness because he is living at one with the world in his own way. If he struggles with the knowledge of evil, it is certainly not apparent in any way shape or form.

Think of it as a positive take on the NPC meme. Instead of thinking of people as being lesser for having a shallow internalization of the world, realize that people with a shallow internalization are probably more at one with it.

[Anonymous No.11850998]

>>11850842
You can't, its all genetics and early childhood development. You are doomed or blessed from the very start, no amount of work will fix you

[Anonymous No.11851005]

>>11850994
i know we arent supposed to romanticize pre-industrial farmers but I am feeling very much like romanticizing pre-industrial farm life atm

[Anonymous No.11851013]

Only read happy go lucky stuff like Rimbaud's Illuminations or Emerson. Drunken Boat is a good start.

He is love and the present because he has opened our house
to winter's foam and to the sound of summer,
He who purified all that we drink and tea;
He is the charm of passing places,
the incarnate delight of all things that abide.
He is affection and the future,
the strength and love that we,
standing surrounded by anger and weariness,
See passing in the storm-filled sky and in banners of ecstasy.
He is love, perfect and rediscovered measure,
Reason, marvelous and unforeseen,
Eternity: beloved prime mover of the elements, of destinies.
We all know the terror of his yielding, and of ours:
Oh delight of our well-being, brilliance of our faculties,
selfish affection and passion for him, who loves us forever...
And we remember him, and he goes on his way...
And if Adoration departs, then it sounds, his promise sounds:
'Away with these ages and superstitions,
These couplings, these bodies of old!
All our age has submerged.' He will not go away,
will not come down again from some heave.
He will not fulfill the redemption of women's fury
nor the gaiety of men nor the rest of this sin:

[Anonymous No.11851014]

>>11850998
Not true, early childhood development matters very little.

If what you say were true, the Jews would still be Egyptian slaves, slavery would still be maintained in the United States, cowboys wouldn’t have existed, Cinderella stories wouldn’t be a thing, God wouldn’t be real, and you would be gay because you can’t get any pussy (but you still have that grain of hope inside you that something is wrong with society).

Don’t worry me and my girlfriend are trying to fix things

[Anonymous No.11851017]

>>11850994
He seems to have never known something so sinister or never having an experience. OR just look at how he says that 5 of his fucking brothers and sisters died meh they died so what he seems to be missing something. A lack of logical empathy? I don't know but something is wrong so you better contain him to that fucking farm. He seems a little weird also everything in perfect order no this shows that he has some kind of issue. That's what I get from this I can see behind his mask.

[Anonymous No.11851021]

>>11851014
>Not true, early childhood development matters very little.
All of modern psychological research disagree with you

[Anonymous No.11851022]

For he is and he is loved, and so it is already done.
Oh, his breathing, the turn of his head when he runs:
Terrible speed of perfection in action and form!
Fecundity of spirit and vastness of the universe! His body!
Release so long desired, The splintering of grace before a new violence!
Oh, the sight, the sight of him!
All ancient genuflections, all sorrows are lifted as he passes.
The light of his day! All moving and sonorous
suffering dissolves in more intense music.
In his step there are vaster migrations than the old invasions were.
Oh, He and we! a pride more benevolent than charities lost.
Oh, world! and the shining song of new sorrows.
He has known us all and has loved us.
Let us discover how, this winter night, to hail him from cape to cape,
from the unquiet pole to the château,
from crowded cities to the empty coast,
from glance to glance, with our strength and our feelings exhausted,
To see him, and to send him once again away...
And beneath the tides and over high deserts of snow
To follow his image, his breathing, his body, the light of his day.

[Anonymous No.11851027]

>>11851017
>He seems a little weird also everything in perfect order no this shows that he has some kind of issue. That's what I get from this I can see behind his mask.
>behind his mask

See? This is the kind of shit I'm talking about. Everyone in California talks this way. There is nothing "wrong" with him. He's not hiding anything. He's not wearing any kind of mask. He just IS. He's a (naively) good person.

[Anonymous No.11851029]

>>11850994
I think you are denying a vital aspect of a person's humanity if you claim that they do not struggle with evil. To put it another way, the greater a saint a person is, the more honestly they can call themselves a sinner; the more we approach the good the more we are able to recognize our own faults.

[Anonymous No.11851037]

>>11851021
I can tell you it’s wrong just from wisdom and personal experience.

This is part of the deterministic machine, modern psychological/sociological findings support a deterministic machine which is set apart, and at ends with, God. Look at evolutionary biology or anthropology.

[Anonymous No.11851038]

>>11851027
It's projection, they are all terrible neurotic people and they assume that everybody is like them. I have to deal with these people day in and out and it is a relief when I can be around normal people again

[Anonymous No.11851048]

>>11851037
And I can tell you from personal experience that people never truly change. You can identify who's life is gonna be a fucking mess by the time they're in the first grade. Of course the universe is deterministic, free will implies a soul or some other magical bull shit

[Anonymous No.11851058]

>>11851029
Look, I'm not trying to demean him or anything. Let me put it this way. There's a reason why Gandalf looked to the hobbits. Even though in their daily lives, their struggle with evil was very small (so and so took my food without paying!), their capacity to resist evil was also very strong. This put them in a unique position to take the ring of power and hold onto it.

The naively good aren't incorruptible, no one is, but I think it's fair to say a person who appreciates the simple things in life is more resistant to the call of evil than those who think highly of themselves. I'm not saying these are p-zombies, just that their sphere of concern is much more narrowly focused and, if cultivated properly, they have a stronger inclination towards the good because they are more at one with the world naturally.

[Anonymous No.11851059]

>>11851027
Go and meet him then because I did not like this perfection he had on his fucking garden in Wales.And do not even dare call me a Californian fag like yourself I can see people through 10 miles away 9/10 times I am correct. And I know this and I have proven it now this faggot you showed is weird show me someone kind and I will accept it.

[Anonymous No.11851071]

>>11850898
Imagine having such poor reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.11851074]

>>11851048
i was extremely engaged in life, school, friends, sports, hobbies, etc. all the way up until i was 17 when my bipolar set in. Idk how anybody could hve predicted that from my behavior in 1st grade, which was extremely precocious, and socially well-adjusted

[Anonymous No.11851092]

>>11850842
Read something in the vein of Stoicism or Buddhism to ingrain into yourself some temperance and then start from there.

[Anonymous No.11851110]

>>11851074
He won’t listen. He is blind to the truth

[Anonymous No.11851112]

Reading Plato did it for me

[Anonymous No.11851143]

>>11850842
Unironically Tolkien.

[Anonymous No.11851157]

>>11850974
Sorry that not all of us are nazi LARPers

[Anonymous No.11851160]

>>11850974
The marching song is cringy
It ruins the positivity by putting in wehraboo garbage

[Anonymous No.11851177]

>>11850968
Witness the Jewish mindset

[Anonymous No.11851190]

>>11851160
not as cringy as posting a fucking pro-stalin meme jesus

[Anonymous No.11851210]

>>11851059
>And do not even dare call me a Californian fag like yourself I can see people through 10 miles away 9/10 times I am correct
Autism

[Anonymous No.11851211]

>>11851160
The Nazis were based you Commie gas chamber fodder

[Anonymous No.11851235]

>>11851190
>>11851211
Calm your tits, it's a joke you faggots
Also the nazis were fucking shit, they failed miserably because they picked fights they had absolutely 0 chance of winning due to their lack of resources.

[Anonymous No.11851237]

>>11851074
I'm always curious about how stuff like that happens. I sort of had a reverse course where I was really bad as a kid and got better (still a mess right now, though). Would just be weird to see it from the other side.

[Anonymous No.11851244]

>>11851235
>it's a joke
So was the original reference to the German march

[Anonymous No.11851248]

>>11851244
A joke is funny, and the recent _oomer memes have been anything but funny.

[Anonymous No.11851260]

>>11851237
If you have ever taken a psychedelic, it is basically like around age 17 my entire waking existence became a mild bad trip, punctuated by periods of 'good trip' and then mania, which mania is like heaven on earth, cant explain it. It is almost always just the bad though. It has physical symptoms as well, I have a constant headache, and inflammation of my muscles and joints in a bizarre tension.

I literally just can't 'wake up', i cant get off the 'drug' that is causing this bad trip of sorts. I am always in a state of confusion and panic, yet everything is ominously portentful

[Anonymous No.11851265]

[Anonymous No.11851284]

>>11851059
>>11851210
>What is insensitivity to sample size bias?

[Anonymous No.11851306]

>>11850842
>tfw I'm both a doomer and a bloomer

[Anonymous No.11851320]

>>11851306
Some people need the carrot and others need the stick

[Anonymous No.11851332]

>>11851306
You're in a transitional phase. Soon you'll wake up you the sunshine anon.

[Anonymous No.11851350]

>tfw Bloomer
>tfw my time is too valuable to waste reading this thread

[Anonymous No.11851371]

>>11851143
this but add Dostoevsky

[Anonymous No.11851632]

post bloomer music I'll start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK_F1sacgt0

[Anonymous No.11851638]

>>11851248
No, a joke is INTENDED to be funny. Just because someone doesnt find it funny doesn't make it not a joke

[Anonymous No.11851675]

>>11851632
thanks, nice tune

if you watch YMS you veto your permission to visit this board. Find someone better

[Anonymous No.11851707]

>>11851675
sorry, I was posting in a /tv/ thread about dogfucker and got mixed up. Here's the real thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcBEojJlziU&t=277s

[Anonymous No.11851751]

>>11851707
np man, nice music

I don't think there's any actually good youtube film guys anyway. Every Frame A Painting was the best but they stopped. MrBtounge has some great film analysis when he puts out a video. The only reason YMS seems decent is that everyone else just sucks

Despite the fact that I disagree with her a lot, Lindsay Ellis is pretty great too

[Anonymous No.11851773]

>>11850842
Jonathan. Livingston. Seagull.

[Anonymous No.11851792]

Damn you all are such faggots. Just suggest a book why must you always delve into the depths of your autism

[Anonymous No.11851808]

>>11851707
I'm not the person you responded to and I have no idea what genre this is but it's really great. Thanks for sharing this anon.

[Anonymous No.11851842]

>>11851157
It's just a nice tune...wasnt even thinking of the nazi boogieman

>>11851160
die

[Anonymous No.11851864]

People who romanticize pastoral life are fucking disgusting.

Go clean up some horse shit at 5 in the morning every day and get back to me.

[Anonymous No.11851911]

>>11851864
Better than letting my daughter get raped by pakis in the city

[Anonymous No.11851950]

>>11851864
So what's wrong with taking care of animals exactly? You just say it's gross but that's neither good nor bad, it just is. Grossness doesn't affect everybody the same as it apparently cripples you. So what fundamentally is wrong with taking care of animals?

[Anonymous No.11851958]

>>11851864
"People" who romanticize city life are subhuman.

[Anonymous No.11851985]

>>11850842
Am I the only one that strongly feels the bloomer headed toward a crushing dire future?
His optimism is shallow and he has no real strong inner foundations, he's just a delusional fool.

[Anonymous No.11852064]

>>11851950
>You just say it's gross but that's neither good nor bad, it just is
likewise with all the posturing itt

who would we be without some devil to measure ourselves against

[Anonymous No.11852088]

>>11851911
Good thing that never happens you dumb fucking hick

>>11851950
I didn't say anything about it being gross
It's labor intensive at a constant grinding pace you've never experienced, otherwise you wouldn't romanticize it. Working on a farm sucks ass.

>>11851958
I don't, but having been in both multiple times living in human society and collaborating with others is much, much better than revolving your life entirely around agricultural subsistence, which becomes more necessary as you remove yourself further from civilization.

[Anonymous No.11852110]

>>11852088
Pastoral and working on a farm isn't necessarily the same thing. Farming societies are specifically agrarian, that's where the distinction arose in ye olde days. And we're all very sorry that you've spent your entire life in a classroom or office and haven't a pound of muscle on your body, but if you want to continue eating your produce in good conscience I'd consider it noble to not insult the people who actually have to do the work to provide it to you.

[Anonymous No.11852123]

>>11852088
romanticization as cope, hence religion, hence opiate of the masses, hence millennia of homo sapien not being able to just use these abstract considerations as useful in context without needing to revolve reality around them.

a few hundred years ago whoever had less power itt would be getting murked *and that's a good thing*

[Anonymous No.11852171]

>>11852110
Fuck you retard. I've actually done farm work most of my life, that's why I'm telling you to stop coopting my life for your shitty political games.
Kill yourself you pasty silver spoon.

>>11852123
No it isn't. You're just a fucking hooligan trying to dress up as an academic. Once the others become wise to your bullshit, you'll be placed in a cage where you belong until you're reeducated.

[Anonymous No.11852192]

>>11852171
I didn't even say I wanted to be a farmer you daft goon. You said "pastoral" before anything else. Next time say that peoplewho romanticize AGRARIAN societies are disgusting, because they're not the same thing. I too don't want to be a farmer but I have a boatload of respect for them because they get the worst end of the economic exchange for all the effort of creation that they contribute to the world.

[Anonymous No.11852208]

>>11852088
Yeah will it does happen in the UK you limp wristed shirtlifter

[Anonymous No.11852211]

>>11850974
the german march is exactly what needed to be removed, /pol/nigger

[Anonymous No.11852215]

>>11852211
>sanitizing the meme so it can take off on reddit

Die

[Anonymous No.11852220]

>>11852215
>thinking reddit is any worse than /pol/

[Anonymous No.11852227]

>>11852171
>a few hundred years ago whoever had less power itt would be getting murked *and that's a good thing*
>Once the others become wise to your bullshit, you'll be placed in a cage where you belong until you're reeducated.
Walked right into that one.

On a site where people espouse genocide and dehumanization at every turn, you are demonizing me for saying that people generally hole as true whatever is convenient for them. GENERALLY

I bumped into a pole once while parking, is that what you were referring to when you said that I am a hooligan, asshole?

[Anonymous No.11852246]

>>11852211
Nationalistic music is great you prudish faggot

https://youtu.be/kohsgr4kLdM
https://youtu.be/oDl7B4mlTj4
https://youtu.be/fc-DgRO1SrQ
https://youtu.be/RFimfcIRGj8

[Anonymous No.11852252]

>>11852220
>Thinking that /pol/ is worse than Reddit

[Anonymous No.11852258]

>>11852252
Reddit is better than /pol/

[Anonymous No.11852259]

>>11851985
>just a delusional fool
you say that like like it's an impediment to success or something

[Anonymous No.11852265]

>>11852252
I went on pol for awhile anon.

I think pol is great at pointing out some of what is wrong but their solutions are awful. Most people will look back on their time spent there and see it was filled with anger, it's like the Atheist phase you have in religion.

[Anonymous No.11852269]

>>11851958
but I love the city

[Anonymous No.11852271]

>>11852227
Your vulgar legalism reveals the fact that you aren't sophisticated enough to understand that advocating for right by might makes you a menace to everyone around you.

Should I be able to rape and kill your mom, evict you, and inhabit your house just because I'm smarter, faster, and stronger than you?

That would be *as it should be* right you fucking sociopath?

[Anonymous No.11852275]

>>11852258
If you like censorship enforced circlejerks of bourgie morons then Reddit is definitely the place you belong :D

You should go join them

[Anonymous No.11852280]

>>11852275
And you should go back to /pol/ fuckface

[Anonymous No.11852281]

>>11852252
>>11852258
It goes
1. /sci/,/his/,and/lit/
2. /r/literature and /r/books
3. Rest of 4chan except /b/ /r9k/ and /pol/

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10000. Literal shit (fecal matter)
10001. Rest of reddit
10002. /b/, /pol/
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100000000. Depths of Satan’s abyss, the final circle of Dante’s Inferno
100000001. /r9k/

[Anonymous No.11852282]

>>11852265
It's just the politics board of 4chan come the hell on now, quit complaining about how right wingers aren't censored on /pol/ like everyone else and learn how to use the site

[Anonymous No.11852286]

>>11852281
>/sci/ is at the top
Might as well include /bant/ and /s4s/ while you're at it

[Anonymous No.11852287]

>>11852281
>/r/books

[Anonymous No.11852290]

>>11852287
It’s not too bad, I like to post in those ‘what are you reading’ threads

[Anonymous No.11852293]

>>11852282
What anon?
I dont get your point

[Anonymous No.11852295]

>>11852286
t. CS student

[Anonymous No.11852296]

>>11852282
>everyone else
By everyone else I mean newfags. All the newfags who think /pol/ is this alt right hub of the internet and boogeyman trying to undermine every conversation on the internet making people racist.

Wherever you are getting that mentality, it's wrong. It's cringe. Stop and lurkmoar

[Anonymous No.11852297]

>>11852286
Gotta like the mathematics bro

[Anonymous No.11852304]

>>11850842
go to self-help section
wait around for others to wander into the section
blow smoke up their ass
get smoke blown up your ass
repeat all steps
ass blowing continues for life
grats you are a bloomer

[Anonymous No.11852307]

>>11852297
/sci/ is fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.11852309]

>>11852293
/pol/ is not stormfront, in fact most of the stormniggers that made /pol/ from moots faggotry and the death of /new/ left after /pol/ harbor to 8pol so they could have a Nazi larping circlejerk there.

/pol/ is just a containment board for politics , learn how to use it

[Anonymous No.11852311]

>>11852296
My bad. Go back to /r/KotakuInAction since clearly you weren't here when we were telling your kind to fuck off back to /pol/ on the other boards in 2011.

[Anonymous No.11852312]

>>11852296
Well, pol is pretty shit

[Anonymous No.11852320]

>>11852252
>thinking /pol/ and reddit can be considered distinct entities

[Anonymous No.11852324]

>>11852311
Even today you're just that same class of whiny faggot who couldn't be bothered to ignore people who he didn't want to talk to on an anonymous forum.

Get over yourself and use filters instead of winging that people don't want 4chan turned into Reddit

[Anonymous No.11852327]

>>11852282
Pol isn't about politics, it's just some faggy larp fantasy for incels

[Anonymous No.11852328]

>>11852309
You don't think there is an overall political consensus from /pol/ users?

[Anonymous No.11852330]

>>11852320
Yup. Because I'm not a newfag like you who doesn't understand why he's posting on 4chan versus other sites

[Anonymous No.11852336]

>>11852324
>I wanna be a fag but I don't wanna be called out on it

nah

[Anonymous No.11852337]

>>11850869
I have that mindset, how do I now you're not just some propagandist?

[Anonymous No.11852338]

>>11852330
I mean, that used to be true, but these days...

[Anonymous No.11852341]

>>11852337
Stupid is as stupid does :)

[Anonymous No.11852343]

>>11852328
Nope. Because I've actually used /pol/ and realized you can talk to literally anyone on there you want instead of just. Consensus doesn't even matter on a barely moderated anonymous forum that allows you to literally filter people you don't like out of the conversation .

Fuck off

[Anonymous No.11852346]

>>11852336
No but... Thats you anon. You're the intolerant naggy little fag who can't handle people disagreeing with him calling for the hall monitor to kill any and all fun

[Anonymous No.11852351]

>>11852330
listen here cumgunk, I've been here longer than you've had pubes, only a reddit migrant piece of shit could possibly imagine that this travesty can be compared to the glory that was 4chan

[Anonymous No.11852352]

>>11852346
No I just can't handle pol idiocy

[Anonymous No.11852355]

>>11852351
>glory that was 4chan

[Anonymous No.11852357]

>>11852343
If you don't think /pol/ has a certain political alignment or culture to it then I'm not sure what to tell you anon.

Oddly enough you're thinking like a liberal

[Anonymous No.11852365]

>>11852346
>>11852343
Filtering doesn't work when you make 15 fucking Nazi threads on the cooking board knocking off any thread remotely related to the board topic to instead use it as a vehicle to proselytize.

It's always the same with you dumbfuck whiny snowflakes. You only believe in free speech as long as it's speech that you like and doesn't criticize you. As soon as we start doxxing you and swatting you, or even just posting a view slightly left of center or mentioning how that thing you did was racist, you completely change your fucking tune.

You all honestly need to be jettisoned into space.

[Anonymous No.11852369]

>VERSE
Divine Comedy
Shelley
Dickinson
Manley Hopkins
Walt Whitman
Robert Browning
Four Quartets (more Little Gidding)

>PROSE FICTION
Pilgrim's Progress
Middlemarch
Huckleberry Finn
Brothers Karamazov
Most of Tolstoy
Lord of the Rings
Winnie the Pooh
East of Eden

>RELIGION
The Bible
The Tao De Ching

NON-FICTION PROSE
Nicomachean Ethics
The Doctor and the Soul
Kierkegaard
Emerson
Hazlitt

[Anonymous No.11852372]

>>11852352
No man, you've changed. You're a narc now. What happened to you?

>>11852357
Are we talking about libertarian, fascist, magacancer, britpol, eirepol, deutschpol or whatever they call themselves, the random drifters just posting random political topics?

What about all the centre left fags on the board, do they just not exist anymore because of this retarded meme of /pol/ being the safe haven of far right extremism still going around?

[Anonymous No.11852376]

>>11852355
one time a dude injected dog shit into his pisshole and posted a pic then someone printed the pic off and came on it and posted that

[Anonymous No.11852388]

>>11852372
pol hasn't even read Gravity's Rainbow, fuck off :)

[Anonymous No.11852391]

>>11852372
You named five right wing groups.
I get that there are differences and I understand commies come into /pol/ but even /leftypol/ isn't that different.

The overall problem with /pol/ isn't the right wing part of it anon, it's that there solutions don't exist.

[Anonymous No.11852393]

>>11852365
>Filtering doesn't work when you make 15 fucking Nazi
Yes it does faggot
>Making this a left right issue
>ranting about how unfair it is right wingers are """"""shutting down free speech"""""" by protesting their getting doxxed by pink haired bourgie hall monitors

This is the other issue with newfags, political newfags just refuse to use 4chan or pol like it's supposed to and just go with this retarded mentality from Chanology that internet streets justice is the purpose of 4chan.

Fuck off, you ideologues are the cancer killing this site.

[Anonymous No.11852397]

>>11852372
>What about all the centre left fags on the board, do they just not exist anymore
No they don't because you fags start screeching about leftypol the moment anyone even dares stray from the Nazi line

[Anonymous No.11852399]

>>11852365
Use the ultimate filter. Just stop using the site. If contrarianism makes you that upset idk how you ever used 4chan in the first place.

[Anonymous No.11852402]

>>11852399
4chan used to be cool

[Anonymous No.11852406]

[Anonymous No.11852407]

>>11852391
>You named five right wing groups.
No I did not, and you're a complete newfag to /pol/ if you think this? I mean fascists consider themselves syncretic between the left and right, and there are both left and right libertarians who post regularly on /pol/.

There are basic bitch American Democrats and Republicans who posted on /pol/, there are democratic socialists who post on /pol/, there are socdems and anarchists who post on /pol/

Fuck off with this meme of /pol/ being monolithic entity. It's not.

[Anonymous No.11852412]

>>11852365
>As soon as we start doxxing you and swatting you
i dont think youre really grasping what free speech is about lol

[Anonymous No.11852414]

>>11852406
Has memes gone too far?

[Anonymous No.11852416]

>>11852397
>because you fags start screeching about leftypol
Right because lefties certainly never bitch and moan about racism and muh /pol/. It's almost like there is a sudden spike in partisanship on certain issues as more and more people start posting there.

Weird.

[Anonymous No.11852420]

>>11852393
No it doesn't shithead. If I made 15 communism threads on a slow traffic board, there wouldn't be any other threads on the board. They would get bumped off.

That's deplatforming the actual ontopic board subject threads to talk about politics, which is classic /pol/. I'm not just going to fucking ignore it. I'll keep posting, and if you don't like it you can filter me instead.

>>11852399
I'll go where I please and you can't stop me. The more irritated it makes you that I won't conform or passively ignore you, the more I want to stay and fuck with your agitprop campaign.

Keep posting off-topic or only tangentially related right wing shit and I'll keep making your life hell.

[Anonymous No.11852421]

>>11852407
>It's not
It kinda is.

[Anonymous No.11852425]

>>11852420
>Keep posting off-topic or only tangentially related right wing shit and I'll keep making your life hell.
weve got a badass on our hands lads

[Anonymous No.11852426]

>>11852416
>It's almost like there is a sudden spike in partisanship on certain issues as more and more people start posting there.
Well yeah, people from all across the political spectrum used to have threads there.

[Anonymous No.11852429]

>>11852407
The average pol poster and leftpol poster has lots in common.

[Anonymous No.11852430]

>>11852425
No, I just know you hate it because you keep whining. So I'll keep doing it more because your boomer tears are sweet and delicious.

[Anonymous No.11852433]

>>11852429
There's no such thing as leftypol, just fascists with insecurity

[Anonymous No.11852438]

>>11852420
Keep it up dude, youre the hero 4chan deserves gulag those dirty right wingers

[Anonymous No.11852442]

>>11852433
You are either
1. On adderall
2. Just got into politics
3. Under 21

[Anonymous No.11852445]

>>11851260
Dude, ever been to a doctor for this? Dormant schizophrenia and other psychiatric disorders can unearth after use of psychedelics.
Do psychiatric diseases (like schizophrenia) run in your family?

[Anonymous No.11852446]

>>11852420
>That's deplatforming the actual ontopic board subject threads to talk about politics, which is classic /pol/.
Oh wow, sometimes people shitpost on 4chan fucking shut the internet down it's all over.

Are you really getting your panties in a bunch over shitposting on 4chan? Not just that, but you're so mad that a group of trolls would organize themselves to shitpost that you think this justifies not communicating with right wingers anymore because of course it's there fault?

Pic related

[Anonymous No.11852450]

>>11852442
Nope

[Anonymous No.11852456]

>>11852421
>It kinda is.
It kinda isnt

>>11852426
>used to have threads there.
They still do, you just have to weed things out now that more people post there

[Anonymous No.11852457]

There is so much anger in this thread. stop it ;_;

[Anonymous No.11852458]

>>11852446
>sometimes

pol is entirely shitposts

[Anonymous No.11852461]

>>11852450
Then you shouldn't care about politics so much and hopefully you will than realize while /pol/ isn't great.

The reason I said leftypol and pol aren't so different is they are both filled with individuals longing to belong to something and want to supplement their life with something to feel greater

[Anonymous No.11852463]

>>11852430
>spending your time raging against an imagined bogeyman of far right trolls on the 4chan literature board and being proud of this
wew

[Anonymous No.11852469]

>>11852458
90% of any amount of political discourse is shit anon

[Anonymous No.11852492]

>>11852469
Okay

[Anonymous No.11852662]

>>11850898
A person who feels an inclination towards evil and overcomes it is more good than a person who never knows evil.

[Anonymous No.11852693]

>>11852662
nah

[Anonymous No.11852700]

>>11852271
Where do I advocate for might as right to power? I said that that's how people generally act, be it mostly in innocuous ways. Describing, not prescribing.
And somehow, despite me being vulgar you are the one engaging in violent power fantasies.

I know people who think that rain after prayer for rain proves their *power* over the natural world through god. Can this be categorized as a good or evil? I'm more interested in that these people cannot define the process with any degree of specificity that would be expected if one were to teach an other any sort of task, hence comforting convenient thought/belief to mask powerlessness.

You could and should have thrown my words back at me as my own convenient cope but you can't see past your own crusade

[Anonymous No.11852782]

>>11850842
>all these libfaggots on my /lit/

Baka

[Anonymous No.11852817]

>>11852693
fuck you

[Anonymous No.11852880]

>>11850869
>the cynical belief that good people are merely faking it (i.e. the good neighbor is secretly beating his wife, etc) is just propaganda created by bad people
what bad people could you be speaking of?

[Anonymous No.11852887]

>>11850994
Ass mad depressios will literally SEETHE at this post because they are so offended by the mere suggestion that not everyone is a hateful animal with no self-control like they are

[Anonymous No.11852901]

>>11851864
you only say this because your weak mind and body have been exposed to a more convenient alternative. Your expectations have been ruined by luxury. Luxury does not benefit anyone, it makes them worse as a people.

[Anonymous No.11852918]

>>11852327
t. IT WAS HER TURN

[Anonymous No.11852922]

>>11852365
hi leftypol

[Anonymous No.11852925]

>>11852901
He said, flinging shitposts from his position perched high upon his general purpose luxury shitposting abacus.

[Anonymous No.11852928]

>>11850842
A mindset is a mindset, you can;t consume some type of media and become a completely different person

[Anonymous No.11852936]

>>11852925
Yes, if I had never been exposed to luxury and convenience I would be perfectly happy as a farmer, because I wouldn't have any choice. That's literally the point I'm making.

[Anonymous No.11852940]

>>11852936
No, then you would complain about how having livestock and agriculture makes you puny and weak compared to the golden age of getting ripped apart by sabretooths hunting mammoths with atlatls and chewing poisonous berries.

[Anonymous No.11853227]

>>11852940
Probably not, I doubt history had been so well established during the agrarian age. Carry on with your contrarianism, though.

[Anonymous No.11853244]

Lord Jim

[Anonymous No.11853405]

>>11853244
>>11852369
Deese

[Anonymous No.11854288]

>>11852922
BASED pede!

[Anonymous No.11854374]

>>11850994
>"My mother had 17 children, 13 of us survived."
That guy seems incredibly depressed. I imagine he's an empty-nester who took up gardening as a hobby because his kids are all grown and don't visit him very often.

[Anonymous No.11854455]

>>11850842
>start lifting, basic StrongLifts 5x5 is good
>do some sort of cardio 2-3 times a week, running is easy, biking or swimming could be an option as well
>don’t be a neet, get a job even if it’s just a part time job, use the job to get a good recommendation for your next job until you have something you enjoy more, not necessarily high stress it could be something relaxing like working in a nice bookshop or breakfast place
>commit at least a couple hours a month to volunteering, the humane society or working with kids is generally pretty rewarding
>limit your screen time to 1-2 hours per day, even on weekends
>Go to church
>always go to bed no later than midnight and wake up no later than 10 AM
>drink lots of water
>spend a lot of time in the sun getting that vitamin D
>read for at least 30 minutes every single day consistently

This is how you start on the path to bloomerdom my friend, we can all make it if we try

[Anonymous No.11854675]

>>11850842
It's interesting how there is a dialectical process to memes. Big brained wojack created brainlet wojack. The dab loving 30 year old boomer found his nemesis in the flossing zoomer. The doomer came about, and the bloomer immediately spawned to fill the gaps.

[Anonymous No.11854689]

>>11854455
>Church
Why? Why this board likes church&bible so much?

[Anonymous No.11854695]

>>11854689
Just le alt-right compensating for lack of a father figure

[Anonymous No.11855142]

>>11852281
>/his/
Learn one historical topic in some amount of depth and then go read a /his/ thread about it. I'll rather gorge my eyes out than browse that board, especially when somebody mentions your niche autistic interest. This definitely applies to /lit/ but I'm not knowledgable enough about literature to spot it so easily

[Anonymous No.11855155]

>>11850883
So, is this actually implying that he's a Nazi?

[Anonymous No.11855174]

>>11855142
You just described virtually everywhere on the internet.

[Anonymous No.11855201]

>>11854288
>words words words
the left literally can't meme

[Anonymous No.11855208]

>>11854689
It's unironically contrarian to not be a degenerate drug addict or alcoholic today.

[Anonymous No.11855519]

>>11855208
90% of European men have been alcoholics for millenia

[Anonymous No.11855563]

>>11851265
/thread

[Anonymous No.11855786]

>>11850842
This meme made me smile. Thanks OP.

[Anonymous No.11855863]

Trying to be a bloomer to my friends who are negative about everything. Anyone have any tips?

[Anonymous No.11855930]

>>11855519
No, the church got the populace hooked on alcohol after they prescribed it in times of plague, because this "holy" alcohol was infection-free hydration. They burned "witches" who knew how to cure water and heal people.

[Anonymous No.11855951]

>>11855863
Personally I can't do it. I don't mind the occasional bit of negativity, but I've had a few friends who literally cannot be positive about things. The only topic they ever wish to discuss is how they hate themselves, hate life and wish to die. After a few years it just exhausted me, so I had to slowly limit contact.

[Anonymous No.11856157]

>>11855155
yeah that's why its dumb. the OP one is at least reasonable.

[Anonymous No.11856267]

>>11851638
shut the fuck up dumbass

[Anonymous No.11856476]

>>11855863
Get new friends. You don't have to straight ditch your old friends but they are dragging you down. It is a heavy weight dealing with negative people.
>>11855951 indeed.

[Anonymous No.11856484]

>>11850842
Yeah

[Anonymous No.11856946]

>>11851059
holy autismo

[Anonymous No.11858207]

>>11852406
>had friends but stopped talking to them to fulfill a reclusive lifestyle

HEY! That's not the ONLY reason. Jeez.

[Anonymous No.11858211]

>>11850842
Read Kropotkin

[Anonymous No.11859013]

>>11850842
First time I've fully related to a meme. I know it's just a meme made of general traits, but it feels weird.

[Anonymous No.11859281]

>>11852469
yeah thats cause political discourse is just shit flinging and trying to prove that youre right and theyre wrong. if you really want to change peoples minds on politics you talk to them about philosophy. peoples political views are entirely based on their personal philsophy.

[Anonymous No.11859300]

>>11851059
he is a kind person you can tell from his physniognomy. but autismos such as yourself can not see these things such as mannerisms and facial expressions. its ok it doesnt mean you are hopeless, in fact you can learn these things from studying about them. youre gonna make it bro :)

[Anonymous No.11859317]

>>11851048
lol have you ever even met a person? like wtf?

[Anonymous No.11859323]

>>11851027
it makes sense in their mind because the “secret evil” is actually something viirtuous like being against abortion

[Anonymous No.11859332]

The truth is understanding that even the darkest parts of your life are part of a greater picture. All art reflects this. Even the most depressing stories create a beautiful whole. Read everything and let it into your soul, that is the blisspill.

[Anonymous No.11859865]

>>11851235
Ask me how I know you’re a redditer.

[Anonymous No.11860560]

>>11851985
the nonreligious bloomers will face this realization, yes. the rest though will have an eternal peace in God.

[Anonymous No.11860567]

>>11852265
hahayeah true. but theres actually a pretty darned big chunk of people who arent nazis there. specifically in the chriatianity threads

[Anonymous No.11860671]

>>11851005
>I am feeling very much like romanticizing pre-industrial farm life atm
My grandmother lost one of her children to an easily curable infection

[Anonymous No.11860684]

>>11852469
It was better in /pol/ in the past.

[Anonymous No.11860845]

>>11860671
yeah but at least her life was worth living

[Anonymous No.11860983]

>>11852662
is good good because its good, or is it good because God says its good?

[Anonymous No.11861377]

>>11860983
The good is that which improves your life when viewed from the end of it (by an omniscient self). Is it possible to know the good at the time? Not entirely, but you can learn to get a sense of what would be the virtuous act and follow that intuition.

[Anonymous No.11861524]

>>11852662
This is a bug theme for Dostoevsky.

He uses this as his epitaph for Brothers K:
Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. (John 12:24)

[Anonymous No.11861533]

>>11860983
Why are those things exclusive??? The fuck?

[Anonymous No.11861541]

You don't get there with literature.

You get the Bloomer lifestyle when you're no longer obsessed with chasing pussy and competing with other males - typical teenage/early 20s stuff - and your brain spends a year or two re-shuffling your reward system, redesigning your priorities and channeling all that newly found extra energy towards other stuff, and you suddenly find a new love for life, for your hobbies and for your professional field.

[Anonymous No.11861683]

>>11852662
Why?

[Anonymous No.11861725]

>>11850869
All altruism is self serving, be it for ego, attention or for repentance. I am yet to meet a person I deem as 'good'.

[Anonymous No.11861731]

>>11861725
>All altruism is self serving, be it for ego, attention or for repentance
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_altruism

What about the maintenance of your species?

[Anonymous No.11861746]

>>11861731
Reciprocal altruism is exactly self serving. To do something for others with the expectation that they will do something for you. It's actually what started me thinking that all altruism is inherently self serving.

[Anonymous No.11861773]

>>11861746
Not just the expectation of others doing something for you, but also enjoying doing good for others, and enjoying participation in a larger community. While it is still self serving in a certain sense, is there anything wrong with it? The other poster was not trying to correct you but rather show you why "selfishness" is not a particularly meaningful critique of altruism and concern for the wellbeing of others; he is pointing out that it is even good that altruism is self serving insofar as contributing to the health of others increases your own health and vice versa.

[Anonymous No.11861791]

>>11858207
Death was best girl, but Delirium was genuinely a close second when she didn't have her god awful dyke cut.

[Anonymous No.11861828]

>>11850842
Wow that's literally me. Every single point fits.

[Anonymous No.11861847]

>>11861746
>To do something for others with the expectation that they will do something for you
Reciprocal altruism is about instinctual actions taken to maintain your or another species, in other words it's about sacrificing yourself for the whole based on impulses you don't have control over.

How is that self serving?

[Anonymous No.11861909]

>>11861847
Because it is done with the expectation (even if some evolutionary impulse) of some return. Hence the 'reciprocal' in reciprocal altruism.
>>11861773
I suppose you are right. I think my mistake was equating altruism and being 'good'.

[Anonymous No.11861947]

>>11861909
>Hence the 'reciprocal' in reciprocal altruism.
The reciprocal in this theory implies no sentience , it's merely a reference to the end *result* of the action. It's not asserting the reason for this behavior is the expectation of something in return it's simply the end result of a behavior.

That means that this action is not done in the name of self interest it is simply done and has a result that benefits the whole. Not the self. The whole. That is not selfish. Altruism is the exact opposite of selfishness because it works for the whole beyond the self.

Reciprocal altruism completely destroys most conceptiom of cynicism because not only is it altruistic, but it's a form of altruism so primal it can be observed in single celled organisms. No people do not work solely for self interest, it's an absurd thing to think when even single celled organisms work in the name of a purely instinctual group interest.

[Anonymous No.11861973]

>>11850974
It is impossible to be a true bloomer and be beholden to a meme ideology

[Anonymous No.11861988]

>>11861947
But can some automated behavior really be considered as altruistic if there was no conscious intent. A bird calling out when seeing a predator is a reaction not an action with intent of helping others even if the ends are the same.
Dropping note $100 dollar accidentally only for a homeless man to pick up is not the same as giving $100 to a homeless man.

[Anonymous No.11862037]

>>11861988
>But can some automated behavior really be considered as altruistic if there was no conscious intent
Yes because we are looking at the net result being beneficial for the whole , there does not need to be intent for something to be altruistic , you merely need to examine actions and whether or not they benefit the self or something beyond the self. Whether or not this is done out of a conscious effort or instinctual one is somewhat irrelevant in trying to prove if the action is altruistic or not if that makes sense.

>Dropping note $100 dollar accidentally only for a homeless man to pick up is not the same as giving $100 to a homeless man.
That would be an accident. Reciprocal altruism does not imply sentience behind an action but it does imply intent to act.

[Anonymous No.11862047]

>>11850883
The wheat is a huuuge spook.

Should be a vegetable garden.

[Anonymous No.11862051]

Tfw I’m a bloomer

[Anonymous No.11862082]

>>11862037
Actual philosophical altruism (which is what i'm arguing) rather than zoological or ecological altruism is by its definition the concern for happiness of other beings so I would say that intent really is important. Sorry to use wikipedia but:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altruism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altruism_(biology)

[Anonymous No.11862092]

>>11851059
What the fuck did you just psychoanalyze me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top in my class from Praeger U and I have been involved in numerous meme wars and I have identified over 300 jewish ideologies. I am trained in aura-reading and I’m the top confirmed empath in the entire /pol/ army. You are nothing to me but just another NPC. I will wipe you the fuck out with dialectical precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this board, mark my fucking words.

[Anonymous No.11862097]

>>11862051
How?

[Anonymous No.11862116]

>>11852925

[Anonymous No.11862144]

>>11852887
Pmuch this.

It’s never a surprise that as a crab trying to pull it’s way out of a boiling pot of water - the other crabs will pull you down with them. Misery loves company. This is what’s bad about /pol/.

[Anonymous No.11862146]

>>11851260
Stop having literally the same life story I have

[Anonymous No.11862153]

>>11861683
Being couragous is not about not feeling fear - but about feeling fear and continuing on nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.11862171]

>>11862082
Altruism does not have one philisophical definition if you want to get into the semantics behind altruism. A christian will have a different definition from an athiest or muslim. Biologists use it differently from psychologists. That is a flaw, because then we have to establish what the best definition is. I'm really not convinced that the best definition of altruism is one that is contingent on *intent* behind an action that is benefitting the self or another whole.

What we are arguing on the lines of right now is even referenced in the wiki
>The theory of psychological egoism suggests that no act of sharing, helping or sacrificing can be described as truly altruistic, as the actor may receive an intrinsic reward in the form of personal gratification. The validity of this argument depends on whether intrinsic rewards qualify as "benefits".

Which to that end , I've asserted that altruism does not need to imply intent because it contrasts itself to selfishness alone. It is not about whether or not an action is caused by instinct or conscious effort , but rather whether an action revolves around the self or something beyond the self at the cost of the strength of a single organism/person. What this is doing is taking the biological determinism of psychological egoism and turning it on it's head by examining semantical flaws in the argument. This is done by pointing out what is essentially biologically determined altruism that is not contingent on intent to receive a benefit. It's simply an instinct. There is no detectable gratification for the individual beyond merely being part of the whole.

Pretty common criticism of the theory really.

[Anonymous No.11862172]

>>11850900
Unironically this

[Anonymous No.11862190]

>>11855863
First step is to recognize when they are starting to work themselves up about something negative and do your best to change the topic when that happens. Don’t try and tell them that they’re being negative and that there’s no reason to be negative (becuase that’ll just get them raging harder). Instead, just start talking about something else. Don’t indulge them with the reaction they want to elicit from you. This takes A LOT of mental fortitude, patience, and a healthy dose of compassion. Remember that they can’t see their own negativity - to them - it’s ///real///.

Expanding your social circle to find people who are less negative is an important step - but you’ll never find anyone who is 100% positive and never negative (people who are like this exist, but you’re not gonna find them in the secular world). Much more important is learning to deal with negativity without letting it infect them. The people who you want to meet are those who are learning to do the same. People who have turned spiritual development into weight-lifting, rather than NPC/PC club-membership.

Stay safe out there anon.

[Anonymous No.11862192]

>>11855155
Yes? Of course now normalfags are trying co-op a /pol/ meme because the left can't meme.

It's a goddamn shame too, misses the whole point of the meme.

[Anonymous No.11862204]

>>11852406
Wow he is not really like me

[Anonymous No.11862229]

>>11862171
I see your point and you make it well but I am unconvinced that an action can be altruistic without intent. Someone who inadvertently helps people I wouldn't consider altruistic or good. I suppose its a case of agree to disagree.

[Anonymous No.11862244]

>>11852925

[Anonymous No.11862249]

>>11850900
>>11862172
This. Amor fati.

[Anonymous No.11862252]

>>11851235

[Anonymous No.11862282]

>>11862252
Nicely done, the works at the top seem boring and derivative
unlike the holocaust

[Anonymous No.11862313]

>>11862252
I feel like people who post this image think art means "looks nice"

[Anonymous No.11862353]

>>11862153
That doesn't relate to me question in the slightest

[Anonymous No.11862370]

Lmaoing @ ur life

[Anonymous No.11862371]

>>11862252
>could draw buildings well = great artist
“No!” Entarte Kunst is kino

[Anonymous No.11862375]

>>11862370
Stirner's famosity was entirely predicated upon Marx's. Stirnerfags should just retire for life.

[Anonymous No.11862378]

>>11862370
based egoist poster

[Anonymous No.11862389]

>>11851260
LSD? I've been fascinated with psychedelics for years now but I haven't gone any farther then Salvia because that was a shitty unpleasant trip and also because I don't trust my whacked Asperger brain to service.

I walked away from Salvia fine in the end but it caused all sorts weird little physical side effects like random twitching that took the better part of a year or so to go away. I was lucky they DID.

[Anonymous No.11862424]

>>11851260
*internet hug*
I haven't had the same experience as constantly as you have, but I have experienced what you have outlined. Months long seasons of depression and, I guess, oblong general ill feelings about things, punctuated by maybe a week, sometimes a little longer, of ecstatic mania, followed by another long season of terribleness or nothingness.

Shit sucks my dude. I hope you find some comfort.

[Anonymous No.11862454]

>>11850900
True. His will to power is essentially an optimistic reflection of Schopenhauer's will to life.

[Anonymous No.11862587]

>>11862252
It was an age of modernism, so just trying to copy life was boring at the time.

[Anonymous No.11862987]

>>11862252
Hitler's perspective was fucked and he didn't know how to maintain consistency in his shadows. Just look at that last one for examples.

[Anonymous No.11863005]

>>11862252
I really like hitlers third pic in that the rest of his stuff and the kike ones are pretty bad though.

[Anonymous No.11863093]

>>11863005
The third is easily the worst, /pol/tards should stay away from art desu

[Anonymous No.11863254]

>>11862252
>Buildings, classical nude poses and landscape paintings

*YAWN* was done to death by better artists hundreds of years before he was born.

At least the other stuff in that pic are in some way different, experimental.

Bet the Nazifag that made that pic absolutely despises the likes of artists like Dali.

[Anonymous No.11863455]

>>11852258
A bold statement, but a true one. They will hate you for it.

[Anonymous No.11863821]

>>11860983
Idk but how much good could a good cuck cuck if a good cuck could cuck good?

[Anonymous No.11864666]

>>11862389
Salvia fucking sucks. I felt like someone whacked me in the face with stinging nettles.

If you’re at all interested, you should try it. Set and setting. Apprach it with a calm and relaxed mind in a place you feel safe with friends you trust.

[Anonymous No.11864708]

>>11854455
>always go to bed no later than midnight and wake up no later than 10 AM
What if I go to bed no later than 10am and wake up no later than 6pm?

[Anonymous No.11864710]

>>11862252
People who post this unintentionally oust themselves as retards. You can have your qualms with 'modern' art and find bad work but those examples are not doing you position any favors. I say this as an autist who paints boring urban landscapes myself

[Anonymous No.11864714]

>>11862389
>salvia was bad
lmao no shit, that's because it's specifically a dysphoric drug. Very few people like it, and most of the ones who say they do are just saying it to seem tough

[Anonymous No.11864722]

>>11864710
>I say this as an autist
Autists are specifically the subset of people most predisposed to appreciate modern art and dislike traditionalism. idk what you meant by this

[Anonymous No.11864763]

>>11862370
based

[Anonymous No.11864773]

>>11852365
Most of the people there are probably ancap or right libertarian if anything.

[Anonymous No.11864784]

>>11864722
You cannot just paint literally 10,000+ years of artistic history as 'traditionalism'. That's a very narrow minded approach to art and art appreciation. I am personally obsessed with early Italian renaissance frescoes and late renaissance Flemish art but hate 19th century academic masterpieces. Am I a traditionalist? What does that even mean? All autistic people I know are really into one subset of an interest, and disregard tried and true methods and unneeded social and societal procedures, what they mean as traditions. That does not translate to hating all art created before the 20th century. It all depends on aesthetic taste

[Anonymous No.11864844]

>>11863093
>Not liking vorticism, romanticism, or futurism
Fucking pleb tastes desu

[Anonymous No.11864867]

>>11862252
Well Schiele is obviously more interesting than Hitler, that was a period of intense experimentation in art.

Whenever people shit on Hitler's art and writing it is so obviously coming from a general 'fuck hitler' place though. Like he wasnt particularly talented at either but his stuff is fine for an amateur, which is all he ever was.

[Anonymous No.11864885]

>>11864844
Futurism is kino but you’d be hard pressed to find any actual fascists on /pol/

[Anonymous No.11864922]

>>11864867
>fine for an amateur
True. I believe we could have developed his skills well if he kept practicing, even if it isn't appreciated by art schools at the time. Or maybe become an architect, no shame going into that field at all. Unfortunately Hitler found his true talent he had without practice, public speaking, and it took over his life. Idk why people hate Hitler, I see him as a tragic figure desu...

[Anonymous No.11864938]

>>11864922
I thinkthey hate him because of the business with the Jews and Poles and etc. and inciitng a war that killed like 80 million people.

I may have gotten my facts wrong though

[Anonymous No.11865007]

>>11864938
He was a war mongerer but blaming the cause of the war on just Hitler is wrong. Even if you feel his morals were not in the right place(understatement I know) there were many leaders and counties itching to get the tanks rolling just as much as Hitler. But the bias of recent history reigns supreme, Hitler is just one of the many arrogant fuckers in history who wanted it all, he just happened to control a production of warfare never seen before the 20th century. Placing Hitler as the perfect incarnation of destructive evil is hilariously short sighted and illerate of history. Leaders taking joy in watching the beheadings of an enemy army for 12 hours straight was the norm, those guys would take that shit much farther than hitler I can tell you that

[Anonymous No.11865013]

>>11850930
It's an extremely common theme in television and movies So a lot of people who aren't good people will justify their degenerate ways by proclaiming that they are in fact good people by flaunting their degeneracy, and therefore better than the people who "appear" good because they are just hiding their wicked ways

[Anonymous No.11865029]

>>11850994
Just because someone appears happy, doesn't mean their entire life was sunshine and rainbows. A lot of people I know who are happy now had to struggle greatly in their lives, and now they know to not let the depression take hold and to enjoy the good moments - however brief they may be

[Anonymous No.11865030]

>>11865007
I am not a zealous anti-Hitler type. I see HItler as par for the course for those types of people, we see mass exterminations of that sort and imperialistic impulses throughout all history everywhere.

And yes it was not Germany alone or even primarily that was the cause of the war, the Anglo powers and the Soviets are just as much to blame.

however- HItler is still nto some good guy tragic figure. He was a fucked up person, who had pathological obsessions with certain elements of society. Is he tragic in some sense, yes sure, but so are all these men.