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It's another day at the prestigious, proud St. John's College.

How many of these have you guys read?
Also, I know there are some Johnnies here. I saw you today.

>> No.11848587

19 from the freshman year list
21 from the sophomore year list
11 from the junior year list (currently reading Kant's Critique of Pure Reason and Metaphysics of Morals, so it'll later be 13)
7 from the senior year list
It seems to me like most of the books read here are books that most Humanities students will read in just about any university (like Plato, Aristotle, Shakespeare, and Kant's writings), or things most people would have learnt about, albeit in a heavily superficial way, in high school (like Newton's laws of physics, or Kepler's laws of planetary motion).

>> No.11849668

Cringe

>> No.11849799

>>11849668
Cope

>> No.11849995

>>11848526
Which of these books are St. John's College exclusives? I don't want to choose the wrong university and get locked out of reading the best AAA titles.

>> No.11850165

>>11849799
Crope

>> No.11850171

>>11848526
You don’t read the I Ching.

>> No.11850324

>>11849995
You don't have to be at an university to read a classic.
Actually if you want to read lots of classics the best thing you could do is to commit a crime. In prison you can read 16 hours per day and you still get food and a place to sleep for free.

>> No.11851457

>>11848526
Johnnie alum here. (A12)

What year are you? If you're a current student, how are things? I've been hearing about a lot of issues with student attitudes the last few years.

>> No.11851536

>>11850324
and to get raped

>> No.11851543

>>11851536
>not raping other prisoners yourself
ascend in the dominance hierarchy bucko

>> No.11851801

>>11851457
Not OP, but what have you heard?
I’m interested in the school

>> No.11851804

Unironically most of the mathematical works, including The Almagest. Ask me about any of them

>> No.11851902

>>11851801
From my time there, and getting to know students from the classes after me, the student body for the most part seemed to know what they were getting themselves into, and they could balance having raucous parties and taking their studies seriously. And the culture on the quad was very lively, with students from all classes feeling welcome to have conversations with members of other classes. In the last few years, whenever I look over the alumni and current student Facebook groups, I see the current students mostly interested in the classroom approach of student led discussion, and they seem almost hostile towards at least the seminar books, if not the other books from the program (I see some arguments over why we don't read scientists and mathematicians from other cultures). The last several alumni weekends, I've also noticed that quad culture seems dead. Like students won't talk to the alums, but also they don't seem to talk to each other very much, and there's noticeably fewer people on the quad. I can't tell if that's an issue with the kinds of students coming in, or if something else happened in the community or what, but it all seems like the place is directing itself towards something worse.

>> No.11852909

>I’m a Europoor
I’d go to St. John’s if I was American

>> No.11852930

>>11851902
So don’t go?

>> No.11853773

Could anyone explain the college itself?
From experience ?

>> No.11853802

>>11850324
>Listen to sissy hypno
>Identify as gay
>Murder some random NPC
>Go to prison
>Have free meals, access to a library, BBC on tap, and all the free time I want for reading
Paradise

>> No.11854442

>>11848526
Yeah, we're here... I think there are s few on the poster that fell out of the program by the time I graduated in '17, but I hit most of them.

>> No.11854448

>>11851902
Hey, btw, does New Years still happen on Wednesday nights? I ran it my sophomore year, and I wonder if the legacy is still going.

>> No.11855778

>>11854442
Which campus?

>> No.11855818

>>11851804
Are you a history of maths student? What's it like?

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>>11853802

>> No.11856346

>>11852930
More like, maybe go to the Fe campus, if things seem iffy at Annapolis.

>> No.11856355

>>11854448
Oh, I'm so sorry to disappoint you, but New Years has died in the last two years. They have a pseudo-New Years down by the Ptolemy stone, and security watches them and cards anyone who drinks, so it's mostly drinking songs and sea shanties without the drinking now.

>> No.11856394

>>11853773
There are several elements. Classroomwise, the emphasis is on student led discussion, with the professors going by the title of "tutors" whose role is to steer discussion and moderate.

The four basic classes are Seminar (philosophy, history, literature), Mathematics tutorial, Laboratory tutorial, and Language tutorial, with a Music tutorial that replaces lab for sophomore year. The curriculum is roughly the same for everyone, with certain variations due to different class paces and reading swaps based on tutor preferences. The program is roughly chronological, going from the Greeks in freshmen year, the bible, Romans, medievals, and early moderns in Sophomore year, more of the early moderns in Junior year. And the late moderns in Senior year. A kind of exception is Freshmen lab, which runs through ancient to modern takes on biology and measurement.

In Junior and Senior year, there are preceptorials available to choose from for about a month and a half.

The focus being on primary texts, we end up reading things like Euclid's Elements, Ptolemy's Almagest, Apollonius's Conics, and so on in the math and lab tutorials.

It's a really excellent opportunity to study this all, but it's wholly dependent on what effort you put into it.

>> No.11856431

>>11856394
What kind of people go there? Like is it mostly 17-18 year old high schools grads? Or there a lot of "non-traditional" students, like homeschoolers, kids who left high school early, older adults who never got a degree?

>> No.11856454

>>11856431
It might be different now compared to when I was there. At the time it seemed like it was a lot of people straight out of high school, with a smattering of older students. I assume that must largely be the same. The school seems to lately be making an effort at courting homeschoolers, though I can't tell if that's taken off at all.

I hear that a handful of trans students have come in the last few years, who all live on the same hall (and they arranged it so that it's only trans students) and are lowkey called the Trans Hivemind. Make of that what you will.

>> No.11856512

>>11856454
Interesting, thanks. I'm already at another college, but St. John's style of education sounds really enticing. Maybe I can do a masters there or apply to the undergrad program after failing out of engineering

>> No.11856552

>>11856512
They have two masters programs, a standard one which is a smaller version of the main program, and an Eastern Classics program only available at Fe at the moment. The EC looks especially good.

>> No.11856602

Do Johnnies believe in God?

>> No.11857298

>>11856602
Some. There's a sizable Orthodox set of students. I think most would say agnostic or atheist, tho.

>> No.11857469

>78.3%

>> No.11858068

>>11857469
not white enough

>> No.11858203

Might let my BS fester and apply for a masters at a college like this desu

>> No.11858773

>>11858203
Thinking the same.
I know ivies respect St. John’s

>> No.11858809

>>11851902
The whole current generation has been ruined by technology.

Worst era in history to go to college.

>> No.11858848

>>11858809
That might be right. Certainly my class and the underclasses I saw weren't attached to social media in anything like the same way the current classes are.

>> No.11858858

>>11851457
Current student here.
It’s chill as fuck, most people are just normal as they can be for this place. I wouldn’t say there’s any real issues.

>> No.11859356

>>11857298
Othodox Judaism or Christianity?

>> No.11859409

>>11859356
take a wild guess

>> No.11859443

>>11859356
Christianity, though I've known a few Orthodox Jews there.

>>11858858
That's good to hear. How's your year looking so far? What year are you?

>> No.11859652

>>11859443
Freshman.
Seminar is pretty dogshit, but the tutors are chill. I might just be insulated from the drama though.

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>>11848526

>> No.11859686

>>11848526
Why are there two copies of Euclid's Elements?

>> No.11859713

>>11859686
Different volumes of the Heath edition.

>>11859652
Seminars always start off that way. I hope it improves.

>> No.11859845

>>11859652
What don’t you like about seminar?

>> No.11860578

https://youtu.be/yk0XBCjW6ck

Uhhh

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11862195

>going to a literally who, brainlet, second-rate college like St. Johns

Meanwhile, all the REAL intellectuals are attending the top one university in history like me. I didn't even click your picture because I did not want to defile my precious brain with you brainlet """books'""

>> No.11862296

>>11862195
loser

>> No.11862950

>>11862195
>not going to St. John’s and then Harvard for superior intellect points
Phoo.

>> No.11863745

>>11859713
>>11859845
There’s just one retard in it that keeps wrecking every discussion we have.

Eva Brann shit all over him last time though, which I gotta say was pretty rewarding.