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Why didn't it work?

>> No.11841684

>>11841672
Because it's a dumbass idea

>> No.11841696

>>11841672
>esperanto
>how did you come to your tenses
>we've been making sentences
>for so long now

>> No.11841698

Catered to much to Spanish people. Languages should arise organically and Esperato had a lot of syntax and grammar issues.

>> No.11841699

>>11841672
No offense but that sounds like some fucking commie gobbledygook.

>> No.11841710

>>11841672
True Esperanto has never been tried.

>> No.11841719

>>11841699
This. Esperanto didn't work because it's communism.

>> No.11841720

>>11841699
It basically is. A joke of a language and a joke of an ideology.

>> No.11841723

>>11841696
nice

>> No.11841728

>>11841710
kek

>> No.11841736

>>11841672
It is working. There are lots of speakers.
There's even a wikipedia.
Just because you aren't part of the community doesn't mean it's nonexistent.

>> No.11841738

>>11841698
this

thank fuck enough people were hip to the tricks of the interminable spaniard to reject this bullshit, though that may change in the near future

>> No.11841747

>>11841738
>spaniards
>future

>> No.11841749

>>11841736
Kvin centonoj estis deponitaj al via konto. Dankon!

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>>11841747
>implying they're not playing the long game and plan to rule the U.S. demographically via their latino horde proxies
anon...

>> No.11841784

>>11841736
Even Welsh has more

>> No.11841789

>>11841736
>designer language meant to be global lingua franca isn't a failure because a few thousand boomers speak it as a hobby

>> No.11841796

>>11841770
>US
>future

>> No.11841809

>>11841672
English because the international language

>> No.11841825

>>11841672
Yiddish is the real global language.

>> No.11841843

>>11841825
based and replied

>> No.11841844

>>11841749
Domaĝe la lingvo estas propre kontraŭkomerca per dezajno.

>>11841789
It's meant to be neutral, not dominant. I guess Latin is failed too, since most fluent speakers are all dead for centuries and only boomer academics use it to larp as aesthetes?
C'mon.

>>11841784
Sure, but Welsh also has a long history and a family tree. Esperanto is a fundamentally different kind of thing.

>> No.11841899

>>11841844
Latin at least had a period of succes like real languages do.

>> No.11841908

>>11841699
Lol I love Norm

>> No.11841921

>>11841825
They invented Esperanto as a newspeak for the global mulatto underclasses. Yiddish is for the elites.

>> No.11841950

>>11841696
>oh you're a weird one
>and i know you're trying to please us
>you're like linguistic jesus
>but it's fucked up somehow

>> No.11841957

>>11841672
Because you aren't going to convince hundreds of millions of people to put in the massive effort of learning a new language to fluency (yes I know it's designed to be 'easy' to learn but come on any language takes a very long time to book learn). Couple that with the fact that it's got a lot of janky grammar and syntax, relies too heavily on spanish as a base and has a limited vocabulary which is the opposite of what you want in a lingua franca and you have a very untenable argument for why it should be used.

English arose naturally as the international language and it works just fine as one so why would the entire world bother to shift to another one?

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>>11841957
>English arose naturally as the international language

>> No.11841974

>learn this language please
>(in kikongo) but I have blood diamonds to mine
And that's why there'll never be a true worldwide lingua franca.

>> No.11841979

>>11841961
You know what I mean, as naturally as it gets. There wasn't some big international council that agreed everyone should learn english and that non-english countries should all teach their kids to speak it.
The british empire was a thing and it's legacy meant that english was the most disseminated language on the planet, combined with the fact that europe and the anglosphere were the power houses of industry, research, diplomacy, culture etc. across the globe and non-english countries eventually just decided that it would be very beneficial if the taught their kids english from the first day of school.

>> No.11841989

>>11841979
I agree desu.

>> No.11842082

>>11841957
>Because you aren't going to convince hundreds of millions of people to put in the massive effort of learning a new language to fluency
This. It needs to be implemented as a second/third language in schools by the governments to catch on. You can't rely that the masses will bother with it otherwise.

>> No.11842578

>let's make a universal language!
>it's 95% Romance

But even if the guy had tried harder, it wouldn't have worked. As any linguist could tell you, it's impossible to create a single language that even does a somewhat okay job at unifying all the different grammatical and phonetic systems of the world's languages. You're never gonna get a Navajo speaker and a Romanian speaker to see eye-to-eye on that kind of thing (and no, restricting it to just Europe would still be impossible).

Any push for a universal language will be almost entirely about politics, not linguistics. If we had the chance to choose we'd be best off just making the easiest language possible (which wouldn't be Esperanto) and accept the fact that most everyone would have to learn it from square one.

>> No.11842657

The only language we need is reconstructed proto-indo-european

>> No.11842666
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>>11841844
>Ignore the fact that Latin has a long history and family tree in order to liken it to Esperanto
>Use the fact that Welsh has a long history and family tree to differentiate it from Esperanto

>> No.11842790

>>11842657
Baste

>> No.11842801

>>11842666
I missed the memo that similes needed to be symmetrical. Thanks for cluing me in, logic man!