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Anonymous Tue Sep 25 16:51:59 2018 No.11841614 [Reply] [Original]

>Samuel Johnson
Melancholy, digestive weakness, fits of insanity
>Scott Fitzgerald
Hypochondriac, anxiety disorder, bouts of extreme depression and hopelessness, digestive weakness
>Nabokov
Pre sleep hallucinations, synesthesia, digestive weakness
>Hemingway
Bouts of extreme depression, suicide
>Flaubert
Anxiety, depression, claimed to be "afraid of life", digestive weakness
>Nietzsche
Extreme digestive weakness, hallucinations on closing eyes, insomnia, eventual mental collapse
>Hawthorne
Some melancholia, spent years living in a single room "I I have not lived, but only dreamed about living."
>Melville
Fits of near murderous rage
>Salinger
Emotionally feeble, would weep because he thought it was rude to blow off reporters who stalked him to his home
>Lincoln
Extreme depression, suicidal ideation, took pills for melancholy, fits of rage, poor digestion
>Lord Tennyson
Haven't read enough about him, but insanity in close family members
>Lamb
Haven't read enough about him, but insanity in close family members
>Weininger
Socially challenged, melancholy, committed suicide
>Blake
Literal hallucinations
>Poe
Depressive addict, died of his addiction
>Rimbaud
Enough said
>Tasso
Imprisoned on account of his insanity
>Beckett
Depression

Wtf is wrong with writers

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 16:54:25 2018 No.11841624 There are also dozens of good writers who were totally fine. It doesn't help your case that you cite a hack like Weininger.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 16:56:18 2018 No.11841639 >>11841624 This. Just one example is Albert Camus. He was Chad as fuck and was pretty happy throughout most of his life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 16:59:04 2018 No.11841650 Joyce was a scat fetishist

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:00:47 2018 No.11841659 >>11841650 No, he loved anal sex and enjoyed the smell of his wife's farts. That's it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:09:21 2018 No.11841707 >>11841624 >there are dozens The point is its prevalence. At least think before posting. Give me your thoughts on Weininger’s theory of genius and where he departs from Carlyle. >>11841639 Camus isn’t a great writer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:11:00 2018 No.11841715 >>11841707 >Camus isn’t a great writer. He's better than Salinger.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:13:05 2018 No.11841726 File: 25 KB, 337x354, 1527966050803.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11841715 >muh big idearz

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:14:14 2018 No.11841731 >>11841726 Direct me to the post where I said Camus is better because he has "big idearz"

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:16:47 2018 No.11841742 >>11841731 No.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:17:32 2018 No.11841746 >>11841715 lolno

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:18:08 2018 No.11841751 >>11841742 Damn... >>11841746 lolyes

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Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:18:10 2018 No.11841752

>>11841614
Lamb's (older) sister Mary killed their mother in a fit of rage, but she was let off for insanity and Charles became her guardian, and this effected his life in many ways. Though melancholy he had the right friends, was productive, and generally upbeat.
Each and every one of [us] has some portion of insanity to bear, fwiw

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:20:25 2018 No.11841762 >>11841614 >>Blake >Literal hallucinations These were real prophetic visions desu

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:33:27 2018 No.11841826 Cont. >Kafka Extreme melancholia >Tolstoy Extreme depression, suicidal ideation, homosexuality >Dostoevsky Self evident >Coleridge Fearful apprehensions, weak digestion, opium abuse

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:33:57 2018 No.11841829 >>11841762 This

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Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:35:14 2018 No.11841836

>>11841614
“I’m anxious and disconnected from other people and society. I dislike this anxiety and disconnection, but there is also something profound about it. I’m going to seek some answers to it by mining the wisdom of the ages.”

>reads a million books
>comes back into society

“I’m even more anxious and disconnected than I was before! What I thought would provide me with answers has only given rise to more questions, and now I cannot help but see even the other spiritually sensitive and discontent people of my age as fundamentally naive about their malaise. But at least I am now very articulate about this anxious alienation, which I understand in some details. Maybe I can overcome it, and in a way that clarifies it for other people, perhaps leading them out of it, by writing! At the very least, I’ll get famous and rich for writing, and then the gap that has grown between me and others will be bridged over by wealth and fame, so I can still be my alienated self, and yet be celebrated for it by the masses from whom I am disconnected!”

>spends years writing
>returns to society

“Not only am I not famous, not wealthy, and fundamentally misunderstood by even the most literate people, but I am more isolated and anxious than ever, because I have spent so much time trying to bridge the gap between myself and people by fleeing people into solitude, and so much time trying to conquer anxiety by keeping it close that I have become besotted with it, and am incapable of feeling anything else. This world appears to me as a strange, absurd dream, populated by ghosts who fill me with terror and mindless chattering mouths who fill me with disgust. I shall never touch another in the way I always needed to. I shall never be at home in the world. I shall always be frightened and alone.”

>eats the business end of a Remington

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:40:45 2018 No.11841861 >>11841614 All those things just give them different perspectives to write about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:41:55 2018 No.11841867 >>11841707 >>11841715 Read Camus in French before criticizing him. It's the translations that always make him seem dry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 17:44:00 2018 No.11841879 >>11841614 Sounds like a bunch of typical human experiences to me. Pretty much everyone had bad digestion in the old days since the food wasn't the same quality as it is now and they ate a lot of lard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 18:07:31 2018 No.11841985 >>11841614 >ben ten dropped

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 18:08:33 2018 No.11841986 >>11841639 he was also a horrible writer and a shallow thinker

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 18:14:45 2018 No.11842019 >>11841986 Let me guess, you read him in translation

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 18:34:13 2018 No.11842116 >>11841879 If they were typical, they wouldn't be classed as special disorders

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 18:46:48 2018 No.11842184 >>11841836 Is this from something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 18:49:03 2018 No.11842196 I love these threads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 18:50:26 2018 No.11842202 >>11841986 careful with that edge, son

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Anonymous Tue Sep 25 18:50:49 2018 No.11842204

>>11841614
high creativity and high iq strongly correlate with mental illness and specifically schizophrenia, they also correlate with autism which again happens to correlate with digestive and sleep issues. Its an unfortunate side effect of having sig more brain power than is necessary to survive. Also being a creative genius will drive you insane.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 18:51:32 2018 No.11842208 >>11842116 Most people have special disorders

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 18:54:29 2018 No.11842230 >>11842208 >Most people have special disorders Yeah, it's really common to hallucinate or suffer your neighbors to watch you because they suspect you're going to stab yourself

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 19:17:10 2018 No.11842332 >>11841614 >Pre sleep hallucinations, synesthesia These seem like benefits if anything

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 19:22:26 2018 No.11842358 >>11842184 From me brain tappin on me iPhone

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 19:23:00 2018 No.11842361 as someone who actually has severe digestive issues and is obsessed with finding writers who are equally cursed, the only person you listed who had real non-self inflicted physiological problems is Nietzsche.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 19:23:35 2018 No.11842366 >>11842230 Fits of rage, depression, emotionally feeble, anxiety, melancholy are all very common things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 19:26:13 2018 No.11842375 >>11841614 We fetishize the crazed genius.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 19:28:08 2018 No.11842387 >>11842332 They are weird and uncomfortable desu

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Anonymous Tue Sep 25 19:32:44 2018 No.11842411

>>11842366
No, they don’t. Fits of rage doesn’t mean slamming a door and depression isn’t getting to starbucks only to find they’re out of pumpkin spice.

Melville supposedly chased his wife around a kitchen table while holding a knife. Hemingway blew his own brains out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 20:23:22 2018 No.11842644 >>11841624 >It doesn't help your case that you cite a hack like Weininger. le resentful jew Shut up, retard. Weininger was a genius.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 25 21:14:34 2018 No.11842892 >>11842644 Shut up Blumpftard. Go back to your MAGAcel buddies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 26 00:32:27 2018 No.11843740 >>11842375 Explain

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 26 00:39:01 2018 No.11843766 >>11842375 Speak for yourself, creep.

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Anonymous Wed Sep 26 00:41:09 2018 No.11843775

>>11843740
not the other guy but here goes. we view creative prowess as a product of madness/genius because it's comforting and glamorous to us. we wonder what our "natural gift" is. we also fantasize about some of our neurotic tendencies being a side effect of some dormant talent. the reality of a guitarist practicing scales for hours or a writer reading/practicing Elements of Style by EB White is not sexy whatsoever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 26 00:42:56 2018 No.11843781 >>11841614 >>11841826 >>11841879 What is all this weak digestion shit, surely this is not important or rare enough to be significant. >>11842204 Nothing about autism makes you more likely to be a great writer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 26 00:43:55 2018 No.11843784 I wonder if the increasing trend of treating serious mental issues will cause us to lose some unique authors

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 26 00:46:00 2018 No.11843790 >>11843775 >Elements of Style Do you think any great writer has done this? Seems like it would hinder you if anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 26 00:52:07 2018 No.11843806 >>11842332 As someone who suffers from hallucinations before and after sleep, no, it is not a benefit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 26 01:01:12 2018 No.11843838 >>11843806 What sort of hallucinations are these? I haven't heard of it in the terms of sleep. Is it similar to sleep paralysis, or dreaming while you are awake?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 26 03:11:28 2018 No.11844246 >>11843790 if you're one for the "know the rules so that you know how to break them" mindset it's a good template

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 26 04:00:09 2018 No.11844395 >>11841715 no. Sartre is the superiour existentialist anyway. (inb4 "muh absurdism") Nausea blows The Stranger out of the water.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 26 04:05:01 2018 No.11844409 >>11841836 Whoa. Do you write? You clearly get it.

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Anonymous Wed Sep 26 09:16:56 2018 No.11845231

>>11843790
Elements of Style was originally a manual that EB White himself studied in college. He later added to it and republished it. I'm sure you'll argue that he isn't a great writer but his columns for Harper's about life in Maine were sublime.
>white would burst into his chicken coop every morning and shout, "cubism is dead!" to rile up his birds
These columns are collected in One Man's Meat and they're maximum comfy-core.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 26 09:43:38 2018 No.11845322 >>11843781 >What is all this weak digestion shit, surely this is not important or rare enough to be significant. having chronic digestive issues is pure, constant agony, and it interferes with your life in a lot of ways

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 26 09:51:03 2018 No.11845344 File: 29 KB, 451x377, 1525653154898.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11841614 hey cool, I've got depression, insomnia and digestive weakness. Buy my book!