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Zola depicted in his novels the main drawbacks of capitalism/industrial revolution.

Bocaccio, the joy of living apart from the moral severity that featured his time.

All realism and naturalism went in that way: in order to describe a changing society.

Take a look around. We are living a fucking subversion of values and dogmas, something that didn't happen in ages, but is taking place now. A REVOLUTION in its worst sense.

Then, ¿WHERE ARE YOU, FUCKING WRITERS? ¿Is that you don't have enough BALLS to DESCRIBE in your writings THIS DYING CIVILIZATION?

History and Literature NEEDS YOU, /lit/

>> No.11840149

>>11840104
Because you won't get that shit published due to Jews and women being in charge of the publishing industry. If you want to read anything like that you have to come to shitholes like this

The main reason being as I see it that the internet acts as such an accessible and immediate outlet for these types of discontent that it rids the need of any pressure on publishers to take a risk or give legitimacy to these types of thoughts. Nothing new will be said in them that is not already being said to a far larger audience by 105 IQ morons on youtube as thoughts become disseminated to them. Great writers operating in absolute darkness having their minds ripple out like pebbles in a pond.
Nothing to be done

>> No.11840834

>>11840104

I agree with most of your post. but let me say

Plebs are plebs. We don't need them. Important movements are always developed by an illustrated-conscius minority.

There is a problem with editorials, you're right. But that can be solved founding new ones or sending your works to foreign publishers (like Nabokov, didn't he?) .

Provocation will do the rest.

Obviously it may not work. But I honestly believe that we, as members of this society, have contracted a serious doubt with all our art-loving ascentors. They legated us an incredible amount of experiences about the time they were living, and I feel that we have the obligation of doing the payback.

Really, nothing to be done (for a changing) except writing, although you may know nothing is really gonna change.

Stay strong

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>>11840104
It's what I'm working on.

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>>11840900
God bless you.

It's gonna be difficult. A vale of tears.

>> No.11841064

Nevermind that most of Zola's work is trash, I would be very surprised if a midwit concerned primarily with so called capturing of zeitgeist instead of writing captivating fiction wrote something marginally better than this https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/8kcqsa/inspired_by_the_work_of_jordan_peterson_i_wrote_a/
>>11841030
quasi woke npc tier

>> No.11842382

>>11841064
It looks like the work has been taken down.

>> No.11843545

>>11841064
This doesn't really help either.
How many people are really 'woke'? I can think of maybe 3 writers in the whole of the 20th Century who could be considered truly 'woke'. And things have only gotten worse since then. Most people can barely write a proper sentence, yet they shit on everything that pops up while promoting all of the academic pseuds with their techno-formalism.
People should be required to post a sample of their own writing next to any critique.

>> No.11843664

I can't even fully work out in my head how the world came to this point so quickly, or how skeptics have been so thoughtlessly pushed aside. I'm constantly entangled godless people, and I've become like them to such a point that I've lost touch with God. And without God, I can't even begin to answer that question.

But just like I used to cling to positivism and postmodernism, I had to live that way for what felt like ages before I was eventually left feeling empty, worthless, alone in the crowd. I think we've fallen so far down the rabbit hole of globalization and belief in the power of humanity that there's no way to back out now. We'll need to see how dark it gets, and then maybe we'll find a way through it.

>> No.11843704

>>11841030
nice larp

>> No.11843739

>>11840104
I wonder if society will change in the next 50 years,or if ego will truly consume us and bring unavoidable destruction.

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I've begun to realize that one of my chief goals as a poet is to "re-ensoul" the world. The world has become desecrated. What used to be grand mountains and stunning cities has become dead rock and dirt.

I hope to change that, or at least do what little I can.

>> No.11843756

>>11840104
>>11840834
>>11840900
>>11843664
>>11843739
It's nice to know that some other people think about this as well. I still don't know what to say or do though.

>> No.11843759

>>11843754
is this where zoomer writers headed? romanticism revisited?

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>>11843759
I feel like some second coming of Romanticism is inevitable. Don't you? Especially since the dawn of the 21st Century, we've had a vast stripping away of grand, sacred things. That will inevitably provoke a backlash.

>> No.11845156

>>11843774
Totally agree. Specially a reaccionary type of romanticism, against the dehumanizing aspects of technology, the loss of national roots due multiculturalism and globalization, or the concept of decadence inherent to secularism. If Romanticism put feelings over reason, his next descendant will put HUMANITY (what characterizes a human being) over postmodernity and it's bastards.

Defenders of the faith, this is your century

>> No.11845835

>>11840104
Don’t worry kid i’m coming

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>>11845156
Well, I'm trying my hardest on my end. Hopefully others will follow suit.

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>>11841064
>>11842382
>>11843545
Okay, this is epic

>> No.11846455

>>11846288
This is the same kind of shit as The Turner Diaries

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>>11840104

>> No.11847616

>>11843759
>is this where zoomer writers headed? romanticism revisited?

People like to believe so but I don't see it happening.

>> No.11849041

>>11847606
Who's this guy?

>> No.11849077

>>11843754
I agree. Believe it or not, the tv show Portlandia had a thing on this in the last episode, about how Portland (and in my experience, the entire West Coast) has lost all of it's individuality in the last decade or two and has turned into a bland, square-condo ridden city like all the others. Our culture is homogenizing in the worst way - all of the character that once made individual places great is being stamped out in the name of "multiculturalism" - which turns out to be no culture.

The OP image of the african dance at the Louvre is a spit in the face

>> No.11849124

>>11840104
>Zola depicted in his novels the main drawbacks of capitalism/industrial revolution.
Is he Tedpilled? Which books for this?