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>No amount of prevarication can keep the blinders before the eyes of those who understand. The truth is strange, but it is constant (insofar as it adheres to its object). That capital is sentient, or rather, that capital is the actualization of the proto-eminent, that is, the existent non-is of which the neoplatonists spoke—this truth is obvious to us. Marx travelled halfway, and thankfully these activists are too obtuse to finish the journey. In short, markets manufacture intelligence.

Holy shit, this is based. Why do Americans hate Nixon when it's clear that he was the smartest and fittest president? What else did he write?

>> No.11825277 [DELETED] 

saged

>> No.11825280
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no idea, but nixon's green and grey notebooks are full of proto-acceleration theory

he literally taught the finer points of dialectical materialism to mao during their weekly tennis matches and ultimately convinced him to denuclearize by quoting from chinese legalist theory in mandarin

things you can't make up

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>>11825277
You know what happens to people who say this right? Irony is a bitch.

>> No.11825319

>>11825277
Can't handle the truth, goy?

>> No.11825349

Source?

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>>11825280
that said, a lot of the inspiration nixon had for discovering the theory of machine intelligenesis was inspired by the deep meditations he carried out in buddhist temples throughout southeast asia, which are today well known as conduits for astral travel. nixon habitually indicated the locations of these to the higher-ranking members of his cabinet during staff briefings.

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>> No.11826021

>>11825404
I knew Nixon made a trade deal with China, but I had no idea he was also into Buddhism

>> No.11826051

>>11825266
Watch Nixon in front of the Oxford union. He speaks very well and keeps absolutely cool while being protested by hundreds of people outside of the debate theater. It's on YouTube.

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>>11825266
NIXONS BRBRBBRBAAACK BABY !!!

>> No.11826118

i remember people comparing nixon to trump....lol

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>> No.11826353

Lies

>> No.11826535

>>11825266
what manner of word salad is this?
that of a deranged madman.

>> No.11826564

>>11825736
Goddamn, I hate him for betraying American manufacturers to China, but I don't think anyone can argue with him on this

>> No.11827061

i love nixon

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Nixon's an interesting president who doesn't necessarily have the legacy he should, even if he does have the one he earned. He's more left-wing than most Democrats today on lots of issues. Particularly on environmental issues he has the second best legacy of any president. To be fair he's dragged there kicking and screaming by his environmental Chief John Whitaker and a liberal congress but he still deserves some credit. I did some research in his library for my capstone and it's hilarious to see how all of his memos on domestic issues just have a signature but his meetings with Kissinger are full of notes and scribbles. He'd lock the door and talk foreign policy with him for hours.

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Here's an amusing document that has never been posted online or pulled out of the archives before. It was really interesting to see his documents and realize how little he cared about domestic issues at all. He really was just a huge foreign policy guy. Separately he was a political genius. It's amazing the things that he came back from and how he managed to stay relevant in politics. For someone with so little charisma to do as well as he did is so interesting. Won't get too deep into politics on here since 4chan's a terrible place to engage people in honest intellectual debate but I will say it's unfortunate that the historic narrative around him focuses on his paranoia and mental health. Abraham Lincon was openly talking about suicide while he's in office but if any scholar said well maybe his apathy about life is why he took xyz risks in the civil war they'd be laughed at. But any hack can write about how Nixon working for his dad's failing grocery store is why he never trusted his subordinates and the public and academic establishment just eats it up. There' a serious dearth of good Nixon Scholarship, particularly on his domestic policy issues. Hope that clears up in the next 50 years. If you're interested in Nixon the best books to read are probably Luke Nichter's. Bernstein's incredible obviously but read it as reporting written during the time not a historical assessment. Avoid Perlstein who has incredible writing but is so wed to his thesis that he bends the narrative to see himself right

>> No.11827285

>>11826118
One final point, this is a deep discredit to Nixon. Sure you can make the play up racial fears, law and order, douthern strategy, etc arguments and compare them to Trump. But I think even at his lowest Nixon was still calculating. I think on a good day you could call Trump bumbling. A much more apt comparison, and one that the press has yet to cover, would be Spiro Agnew. Nixon's attack dog vice president who was forced out of office in disgrace. I couldn't find all my Nixon books for the photo but one of them is the collected speeches of Agnew. Check out his Des Moines Iowa 1969 speech. The Impudent Snobs is written by an administration lackey but it's good at least as a reference for Agnew's speeches. The way he talked to the press, the way he played on racial divides and just his general attitudes are all very trumpesque.

At one point he was courting Rockefeller to run for president (for the Democrats) and expected to be his VP pick. So he's the governor of I think Maryland at this time. He has a color tv installed in his office and then he invites the entire press corp in to watch Rockefellers speech where he's expected to announce his candidacy. Instead, without having let Agnew know in advance, Rockefeller declares that he has no interest in running for president.

Another Agnew story. After he's kicked out of office when it's revealed he embezzled funds he blames the evil media and the left and blah blah blah. He goes on to write a fictional thriller novel called the Canfield Decision. What's the Canfield decision about you ask? A vice president who is wrongfully accused of a crime of course. A quote from the NYtimes review of it. "No good citizen will urge Mr. Agnew, as he might another writer, to return to his previous work. All will want him to keep on trying.”

Another great Agnew story is how he sued the creator of the agnew watch for using a picture of his face.

>> No.11827362

>>11827285
God I love Agnew. Feel free to keep going on in this thread NixonAnon.

>> No.11827475

Thanks for the great posts nixonbro. A vindication of this board

>> No.11827499

*carpet bombs Cambodia*
Pssh.. nothin personell... gooks..

>> No.11827508

>>11827362
I've got some work to do but tomorrow I'll find some quotes from his book. I did a 3k word paper that was basically about his use of racial language in speeches. I looked before and after the baltimore riots to see what changed. He really is a proto trump in so many ways. I remember in undergrad I called his school to see if they still had his capstone paper on file to see if his writing was better or worse before politics.

The Agnew watch craze was pretty funny. The guy who made them gave them to a bunch of senators and they got to be really popular. 'They say Mickey Mouse wears a Spiro Agnew Watch.' At first Agnew was flattered that he was in the limelight and he even owned one. Then he realized people were making fun of him so he sued the guy making them (Dirty Time Company).

>> No.11827515

lets not gush upon reading hagiography; kissinger was running the show

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>>11827508
If you read his speeches he sounds like a middle schooler trying to use as many big words as he can. It's weird because he took such pride in his blue collar spokesman image.

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>> No.11827585

>>11827515
ehh as someone who has read the foreign policy papers and read the notebooks and listened to lots of tapes I wouldn't be so quick to discount Nixon. The way he made his foreign policy decisions was by asking his staff to prepare him options papers and then he'd either select what he thought was best or if he really cared he'd call in a staff member and discuss it with him. As I said earlier all the foreign policy option papers are full of notes on the side and he'd chat for hours with his advisors. If you go through the Kissinger boxes you'll see that Nixon makes him do 5 or 6 drafts before they reach a policy decision. Plenty of times Nixon goes against what Kissinger suggests. They're both believers in grand strategy and they both want intervention in Asia. Nixon came to these conclusions and developed his foreign policy chops while he was vp. It wasn't like he came into office and suddenly adopted all of Kissinger's views. He also had an incredible grasp of foreign politics that he worked daily to stay educated on. Don't know anything about the OP's posts and claims but I can verify that he would spend weeks preparing for foreign trips.

>> No.11827591

>>11825290
>>11825319
What did he say?!

>> No.11827607

Thread theme: https://youtu.be/uMO5DfRIv-k

>> No.11827621

hahahaha. Oh man I actually am going to do work now but I just opened the Canfield decision and I see that it was published by playboy press. Also it takes him a whole 7 paragraphs before he starts to complain about the press.

>"Having the press aboard is no picnic. I guess I'll never learn to move fast enough to run booze to those newsies. Man, they really scarf it up, especially the writers." Hentz's expression showed his distaste. "Just because their papers pay a first-class fare, some of them think they're entitled to special treatment, including a private consultation with the veep every time they get itchy."

>> No.11827640

>>11827585
Not him but is there a good place to start with Nixon's Foreign Policy? Just buy and read through all his papers or what? Or do I need to go visit his library like it seems others have on here.

>> No.11827646

What?

>> No.11827651

>>11827640
to be clear I'm these people >>11827621
>>11827585
>>11827551
>>11827528
>>11827508
>>11827285
>>11827211
>>11827153
and I think I am very much in the minority in having been to Nixon and Agnew's libraries I'll put a name on going forward.

Do you just care about foreign policy for that time period or do you want to learn about the nixon administration more broadly?

Either way you definitely want to read a book about it. Reading the papers with no context if just going to be confusing. You've got lots of options but tell me a little bit more about what you want to learn and I'll try to direct you

>> No.11827711

>>11827651
>>11827640
Ironically for someone whose kitchen table is covered in books about Nixon I'm not sure if best suited to answer this question. I really care about domestic policy and agnew. Most of my nixon foreign policy stuff comes from the time at the library or some undergrad courses I took on the 60s and 70s. I don't have a lot of knowledge on Kissinger and I haven't any academic foreign policy analysis of that era. Obviously being in the US you get a lot popular and journalistic writing on it but I can't tell you like, this is the Skocpol on this subject, this author's crap, this one has a good thesis but bad sources, etc etc.

So disclaimer aside Nixon's official memoirs are pretty long and dry but volume two would cover his presidency and what you're looking for.

Richard Reeve's biography is decent and covers his foreign policy but it falls into the analyzing Nixon's paranoia / mental state trope that I find irritating.

I don't know the authors well but Nixon in the World is published by Oxford Press so I expect that is going to be what you're looking for. It specifically covers foreign relations from 69 to 77.

>> No.11827985

>>11827651
>>11827711
I sort of assumed this. I wouldn't mind both actually. Probably a focus on both primary and scholarly stuff. Any good textbooks or other stuff from your courses and research that you used? That last recommendation looks interesting so I'll look into it later. Hopefully this thread gets some traction by then. Memoirs too. Thanks for this interesting stuff.

>> No.11827989

>>11825266
so Nixonposting is now going to be a thing
Good Job faggot

>> No.11828205

>>11827989
>He says this as if it's a bad thing.
Based Nixonposters are going to be interesting.

>> No.11828343

>>11827989
Nixonposting is actually being suppressed in /his/, glad to see it find refuge here.

>> No.11828535

>>11825266
Isnt that Nick Land?

>> No.11829746

Dont get this maymay

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>>11828535
Nah that's obviously a picture of Nixon silly!

>> No.11830184

>>11828535
>>11829746
I think Nick Land's using /lit/ to sell (s)b00ks

>> No.11830202

>>11825280
>he literally taught the finer points of dialectical materialism to mao during their weekly tennis matches and ultimately convinced him to denuclearize by quoting from chinese legalist theory in mandarin
are you serious? mind giving a sauce on that or perhaps jsut the name of the book you got this information from if you remember?

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>>11828535
>nyx-land
>nix-land
>coincidence?

>> No.11830213

>>11830202
i'm pulling your leg, sir.

>> No.11830219

>>11830202
>>11830213
Lies. This all totally happened. I bet Spiro will come through and help us locate the source eventually.

>> No.11830436

>>11830169
>When Kissigner buys you a Nintendo Switch

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>>11830436
>Tfw you will never get to play Civ 5 on the Nintendo Switch with Nixon, Kissinger, and Agnew.
Why even live?

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>>11830169
IMO this is the funniest Nixon photo. I think the version without the quote is on my other hard drive, will check later. He took a bunch of these shots at camp david and he's just so clearly out of his element in all of them. High marks also go to his photos with Checkers.

>> No.11830824

Also I found the rest of my books! To the Agnew fan earlier in the thread strange bedfellows is a great read. It's more fun that witcovers earlier Agnew biography. Unfortunately those two books are about all we've got for Agnew scholarship. I suspect we'll have one in the next year or so making a Perslstien-esque 'this is where modern political divides come from' argument. I'll flip through some stuff later and come up with quotes or scans

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Sorry mobile posting sucks

>> No.11831304

>>11830824
>>11830827
Thanks for this. Do you have any other interests outside of Nixon by the way? Curious more about how you got to this.

>> No.11831333

>>11830206
hubba hubba

>> No.11831578

>>11831304
urghh 4chan just ate my long reply.

I went to undergrad with a lot of credits from highschool so I was able to skip gen eds and take classes that interested me. The professors I liked taught on the 60s and the 70s so I took quite a few classes there. When it came time to do my history capstone Agnew's papers had just been released online and it seemed like a good opportunity to do some novel research. I'd read Nixonland on a whim and had gotten interested in the administration. I was never really a Kennedy guy and I had a ton of respect for Nixon's story. The Agnew research also felt topical to politics today so I decided to check it out. Ended up getting a few hundred bucks from the uni to drive down to Agnew papers in Maryland. Wrote my capstone, later on did a little bit of research in the Nixon Library. I sort of decided that academic research wasn't for me though. I had double majored and my other research in poli sci focused on political islam and islamist propaganda. I ended up doing a Master's in security studies and now I work for a large defense contractor. Didn't have a ton of other research interests in undergrad but I took a lot of legal philosophy courses that were interesting. Nixon and my security research were the two things that really captured me though.

Interests outside of research. I'm on /lit/ because I read a lot, mainly fantasy stuff.

here's a thread I have on /diy/ about restoring a bunch of mixers. >>>/diy/1463539 . I need to bump it before it dies but I haven't had time to do what I need to do next.

I like to run.

>> No.11831852

>>11830772
It's just about the faggiest god damn thing one could ever imagine

>> No.11831952

>>11831578
It sounds like you should return as you seem to have a lot to contribute. Seems our interests overlap a good bit though. Wouldn't mind chatting with you/picking your brain sometime

>> No.11831968

>>11826353
Is it? Didn’t Nixon say this quote at his inauguration?

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>>11831852
Imagine being THIS MUCH of a pleb

>> No.11832304

So I don't want to type it all out on my phone so I'm going to upload the image I'd describing in my next post.I've mentioned John Whitaker before who was, along with Russel Train* , Nixon's lead guy on environmental issues. This is the person most directly responsible for the the environmental legislation that we still use to this day. He's a pragmatist, he's not super liberal, but he really got shit done. recall that before Nixon the Cuyahoga river had just caught on fire, there was no EPA, there was no meaningful water or air quality laws, cars didn't have catalytic converter and industrial pollution was making cities uninhabitable. I'll try to post some interesting documents from that time in this thread but I want to start with Whitaker's Biography, Striking a Balance. I brought this book used from Ebay for like 5$. When I get home and open it I see it has an inscription. "To Jim Watt, go get em tiger, John Whitaker May 1981."Who is Jame's Watt? The environmental chief under Ronald Reagan who spend most of his term dismantling Nixon era protections. How this signed book ultimately ended up for sale I don't know but I like to imagine that Watt gave it away immediately without ever reading it. Certainly he took none of its lessons to heart.

Brief caveat, the other Nixon environmental guy is Russel Train who was the first EPA chief. Now Train is better remembered than Whitaker but I know from internal memos how little Russel and Nixon got along and how much more he listened to Whitaker. Train's book, politics pollution and Pandas is interesting enough but it's much less focused on policy making and administration decisions than Whitaker's was.

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>> No.11832318

>>11831952
yeah for me security studies lets me do everything that I'd want to do in history with none of the downsides. Meaningful research, not writing for the drawer, get to work on exciting and diverse things, expertise is valued, don't need a phd, great pay and travel, etc. I respect historians and if I was interested in a Phd I think it'd be a fulfilling career eventually but I'm happy in the field I ended up in. What are your interests in Agnew exactly? What do you make of his impact on the political landscape

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Here's the version of this image that I did not turn into a shitty rap quote poster. Pretty certain that this is the highest resolution it's ever been uploaded online.

>> No.11832407

>>11832140
I got the quote wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPb-PN9F2Pc

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I saw earlier some discussion of Nixonposting? I'm not sure what that is but my expectations from 4chan are a bit low and I suspect people who agree implicitly with his racist divisive politics play up his achievements. I just want to stress you have to take a nuanced view on Nixon and recognize that he's got impressive achievements and also devastating lows. I do believe that he changed America's political landscape for the worse, that he debased the office of the president during watergate and that a lot of his domestic policies were a miss. Also Vietnam was a shitshow but that wasn't really his fault. I just feel obligated to provide that disclaimer because I'm obviously going to be pointing out the parts of his career that I enjoy and that might paint a rosier picture than reality.


So I've chatted a lot of shit about Nixon's environmental record but a brief summary of his accomplishments is in order.

The biggest one is probably NEPA in January 1970. This law is where the requirement for all construction projects to have an EIS comes from. Pretty soon after it's creation it stopped an airport they were trying to build in the middle of the everglades

February of 1970 he lays out his environmental program in a speech to congress. Pretty sweeping in scope. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=2757
"At the turn of the century, our chief environmental concern was to conserve what we had--and out of this concern grew the often embattled but always determined "conservation" movement. Today, "conservation" is as important as ever-- but no longer is it enough to conserve what we have; we must also restore what we have lost. We have to go beyond conservation to embrace restoration."

The first earth is in 1970

He creates the EPA in July, evolving it from his council on environmental quality and appointing an actual liberal (Russel Train) to lead it.

In Oct of 70 he bans leaded gasoline

Clean air act is the first day of 71

In April of 71 he gets a treaty with Canada to control pollution in the great lakes. This one was thorny because the us polluted way more and there were disagreements about banning detergents.

I think 73 was CITES, Endangered Species Act and DDT being banned.

>> No.11832501

Neat fact on Leaded Gasonline. The guy who invented is, Thomas Midgely Jr., also invented CFC's. It's estimated that he is the single organism that has caused the most damage to the earth.

I was talking to a bush pilot on a ski lift the winter and he was telling me that just this year leaded gasoline was finally banned for airplane use. He said the little bush planes, which cause .01% of the pollution compared to jets, still need it fly safely. It was an interesting conversation.

I'd also suggest googling lead cryme hypothesis and lead flynn effect for two interesting theories that show the incredible impact that lead had.

Also a quote from the wikipedia page of leaded gas inventor (Tetraethyl Lead, TEL)

In April 1923, General Motors created the General Motors Chemical Company (GMCC) to supervise the production of TEL by the DuPont company. Kettering was elected as president, and Midgley was vice president. However, after two deaths and several cases of lead poisoning at the TEL prototype plant in Dayton, Ohio, the staff at Dayton was said in 1924 to be "depressed to the point of considering giving up the whole tetraethyl lead program".[7] Over the course of the next year, eight more people died at DuPont's plant in Deepwater, New Jersey.[7]

In 1924, unsatisfied with the speed of DuPont's TEL production using the "bromide process", General Motors and the Standard Oil Company of New Jersey (now known as ExxonMobil) created the Ethyl Gasoline Corporation to produce and market TEL. Ethyl Corporation built a new chemical plant using a high-temperature ethyl chloride process at the Bayway Refinery in New Jersey.[7] However, within the first two months of its operation, the new plant was plagued by more cases of lead poisoning, hallucinations, insanity, and five deaths.[citation needed]

On October 30, 1924, Midgley participated in a press conference to demonstrate the apparent safety of TEL, in which he poured TEL over his hands, placed a bottle of the chemical under his nose, and inhaled its vapor for 60 seconds, declaring that he could do this every day without succumbing to any problems.[5][8] However, the State of New Jersey ordered the Bayway plant to be closed a few days later, and Jersey Standard was forbidden to manufacture TEL again without state permission. Midgley would later have to take leave of absence from work after being diagnosed with lead poisoning.[9]

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>> No.11833026

>>11825266
>>11825280
Someone post Philosopher-King Nixon's letter on pornography.

>> No.11833034

>>11825266
Nick Land copied Nixon.

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This isn't Checkers iirc, it's one of the later dogs. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=24485
>One other thing I probably should tell you, because if I don't they'll probably be saying this about me, too. We did get something, a gift, after the election. A man down in Texas heard Pat on the radio mention the fact that our two youngsters would like to have a dog. And believe it or not, the day before we left on this campaign trip we got a message from Union Station in Baltimore, saying they had a package for us. We went down to get it. You know what it was? It was a little cocker spaniel dog, in a crate that he had sent all the way from Texas, black and white, spotted, and our little girl Tricia, the six year old, named it Checkers. And you know, the kids, like all kids, love the dog, and I just want to say this, right now, that regardless of what they say about it, we're gonna keep it.

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Oh another interesting environmental fact that from that time. In the original publication or the Lorax Doctor Seuss wrote had a line about pollution in Lake Erie. He changed it 20 years later when some group wrote him telling him how much better things were. Also on the topic of the Lorax / 70's environmentalism the Truax book is hilarious and worth reading. Available online.

You're glumping the pond where the humming-fish hummed!

No more can they hum, for their gills are all gummed.

So I'm sending them off oh their future is dreary.

They'll walk on their fins and get woefully weary.

In search of some water that isn't so smeary.

I hear things are just as bad up in Lake Erie.

>> No.11833097

>>11832463
imagine being such a brainlet you think the figureheads are the ones calling the shots

>> No.11833113

>>11833097
>President is just a figurehead with no real power
Why do midwits love this idea so much?

>> No.11833118

>>11833113
Maybe they paid even a modicum of attention to what's going on in the US right now
Maybe they read more than 3 sentences about the activities of the intelligence agencies in the US

>> No.11833125

>>11833097
Listen I said earlier in the thread that Nixon's dragged kicking and screaming to most of his environmental accomplishments. I've also credited the man, John Whitaker, I see as most responsible for them. Again to give you your (you) and spare you the pain of scrolling up Nixon's environmental legacy is a product of the time he was living in, a pragmatic administrative staff, an engaged public, his personal disinterest in domestic policy issues and a willingness of his administration to try new legislative approaches. I think Nixon took a business first approach to conservation but it was pretty much business only before him so it was still a big step. Whitaker Train and Russel were big movers that made it happen and Halderman helped get it on his desk. If you're genuinely interested in learning more about how Nixon's envi policy was made I'm happy to recommend you a few books.

>> No.11833136

>>11833125
Not him but I'd love a lot of books on Nixon Environmental and just general Environmental stuff.

>> No.11833155

>>11833136
Whitaker's 'Striking a Balance' is the best one if you want to actually understand how the policy decisions were made. He gets into a lot of details on drafts of legislation and important issues and just his approaches and philosophy. I discuss it a bit here >>11832304 . The next best one is probably Flippen's Nixon and the environment. It offers more of a big picture view than Whitaker. If you're more interested in what policy was passed then how it was made pick that one. Finally Russel Train (first EPA Chief) wrote Politics, Pollution and Pandas which I have only read chapters of. My impression was that it was meant a bit more the general public and tried to capture the excitement of the new environmental age they were living in. I think he also focuses much more on the EPA. He was also not a fan of Nixon so I think you'll get a different perspective with him than you would with the other two. I have seen documents that show that Whitaker was not a fan of Train's book.

>> No.11833160

>>11833155
and of course I should mention perhaps the most important environmental work from that time period. Rachel Carson, Silent Spring. A bit dated but still a classic. Had a lot to do with ddt being banned.

>> No.11833369

>>11830206
fucking lol. late to this pic but holy fuck it is good.

>> No.11834640

b

>> No.11835643

>>11834640
ump?

>> No.11835650

Seriously I need to know the speech this is taken from.

Did Nixon say capital was sentient publically or is this from his writings?

>> No.11836045
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Yeah I haven't had the time to look through the agnew books yet. Does anyone have a request from a specific book or a nixon subject they're interested in learning more about?

Here's a neat Nixon fun fact. After the dwight had nixon as his vp, for lots of reasons, the two hated each other. They could barely stand to speak to each other. But their kids got along pretty well. So well in fact that Julie Nixon married David Eisenhower, Dwight's grandchild.

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>>11836045
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=1967
One other point I should add: What is involved here, and it is sad that it is necessary that Santa Barbara has to be the example that had to bring this to the attention of the American people, but what is involved is something much bigger than Santa Barbara; what is involved is the use of our resources of the sea and the land in a more effective way and with more concern for preserving the beauty and the natural resources that are so important to any kind of society that we want for the future.

I don't think we have paid enough attention to this. All of us believe that, all of us who have watched America grow as it has grown so explosively since World War II.

Looking toward the end of the century in the next 25 years--and the decisions we make now will affect the next 25 years--that is why I have set up within the Cabinet a Cabinet group for the environment 1 which will consider not only problems like this, but the broader problems like the use of our resources in a way that will see that we have all the material progress that we need, but that we have that material progress not at the cost of the destruction of all those things of beauty without which all the material progress is meaningless.


This is what we believe, and I think that the Santa Barbara incident has frankly touched the conscience of the American people. It made headlines in Santa Barbara. I can assure you it made headlines in Washington and New York and all over this Nation.

As a result of that, we are all thinking, in this administration, of this problem and we are going to do a better job than we have done in the past. It is up to the Federal Government to provide the leadership, and I know in the State here we will have all the cooperation of the State and the city.

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>>11836060
first ever earth day, co founded by Dennis Hayes. Interview excerpt follows.

FLATOW: Was it surprising that it came under Republican, supposedly conservative, President Richard Nixon? Our EPA was created under President Nixon.

HAYES: Richard Nixon deserves full credit for the EPA. He really wanted to become a player, and a few other Republicans that he saw as challengers, like John Lindsay, who were becoming players on the environment, and he did the EPA. I don't think he gets much credit for anything else. In fact he vetoed the Clean Water Act, and we had to override him in the Congress.
https://www.npr.org/2013/06/14/191614372/denis-hayes-on-being-green


Haye's brings up a good point here which is that Nixon's interest in the environment was really a political strategy for him. I think if Nixon had beaten Kennedy in 1960 he would have no environmental legacy at all

>> No.11836109

>>11825266
>fittest president
he was kinda fat desu

>> No.11836127
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>>11836109
Man I probably should have read the OP and recognized this was a troll thread before dumping a lot of interesting things. fwiw I don't think he was fat. He certainly wasn't in shape while he was in office. Lots of drinking didn't help. He did eat pretty healthy. His favourite meal was a cantaloupe with the middle scooped out and filled with cottage cheese. There's an entire roll of him eating one of them in the library

>> No.11836641

>>11836127
It turned into such a good thread though Spiro!

>> No.11837129
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yeah well I'm glad you like it. Hopefully people learned a few neat facts. I just have a bunch of nixon trivia. Most of this is on my old thinkpad. if the thread stays up I'll dump some other shit.

Here's an interesting fact. https://www.myrecipes.com/extracrispy/richard-nixon-had-a-horrifying-breakfast-habit . I have personally spoken to the NARA researcher in this story and he can remember hundreds of other food photos. In fact this photo is part of an entire roll of photos that were taken just of this meal. It's not even the best one! I get that NPR ran this article because a bunch of clickbaity sites found it and it seemed cute but color me unimpressed. I think the value judgements are a bit over the top for a photo of lunch.

Relatedly Nixon was really into cottage cheese. he had it every single day for lunch and sometimes breakfast. Allegedly he liked to have it with ketchup. I mean allegedly here in the same sense that every historian means it which is to say that I've heard this somewhere, I don't remember where and I'm too lazy to look up a source

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>>11825266
Nope. Marx was much farther along than this shit. As was Camatte.
Capital is lunacy.

For accelerationists you really are behind the times...

>> No.11837191

>>11837129
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/07/16/423224405/the-startling-evocative-photo-of-nixons-resignation-lunch sorry wrong link

>> No.11838928

>>11831968
Yeah it was almost as big as Trump's

>> No.11839004

>>11825280
I totally fell for this even knowing that the OP sounded exactly like Land. I also was apparently confusing Nixon with Reagan.

>> No.11839024

>>11837129
Shit man Cottage cheese is awesome. Haven’t had that in a year or so, I found some gas station where they served it packaged with fruit, like those fruit bottom yogurts. ‘It’s a good cheese

I like all kinds of weird cheese tho. I’ll eat bleu cheese on it’s own. I like 6-8 year aged cheese, I’m known for licking cream cheese dry. Goat cheese is amazing on toast. You can call me cheesy McQueen.

Cheesy McQueen doesn’t really care for American cheese tho.

>> No.11839026

>>11837129
Spiro is that a real quote in the OP??????

>> No.11839068

>>11836127
>He did eat pretty healthy. His favourite meal was a cantaloupe with the middle scooped out and filled with cottage cheese.

that... doesnt sound very healthy

>> No.11839128

>>11837129
That doesn't look like a bad lunch, desu.

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>>11839026
I really really really doubt it. Also this >>11825280
is not right either. Nixon did keep really thorough daily notebooks but they were all pretty topical to his policy goals. Also that Nixon and Mao never played weekly tennis matches. I think this poster is a bit confused about what exactly ping pong diplomacy was. I have to disagree with his 'things you can't make up' and rather go with 'things i made up and posted on 4chan.'

>> No.11840333

>>11840089
To be honest, if you can’t confirm if it’s a real quote or not you aren’t an expert on Nixon.

What was Nixon’s stance on the Hegelian ‘spirit’? Do you even know?

Did he meditate on Mongolian steppes in a yurt, like Barack Obama’s? Or cut his toenails with Alligator teeth like Donald Hussein Trump?

>> No.11841177

>>11840333
Oh snap this brings up so many questions

>> No.11842460

>>11834640
ased

>> No.11843224

>>11825266
Hes liked buy some, he was based, understood the commies for the most part. I don't know if the China hting was the right move but it did fuck Russia.

>> No.11843244

>>11834640
Itch

>> No.11843954

>>11839068
What's wrong with that?