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11824545 No.11824545 [Reply] [Original]

When did you find out Allen Ginsberg was a member of NAMBLA?

>> No.11824546

Probably the first time I heard about him

>> No.11824554

>>11824545
As soon as I heard of him? It's not a secret or anything and you're a retard if you think it's a revelation that any of the beats were fucked up degenerates when Burroughs, the most noteworthy one among them was a junkie faggot who went to other countries to fuck teenage boys up the ass.

>> No.11824584

>>11824554
I read Howl! and The Ayahuasca Letters and didn't find out untill now.

>> No.11824600

>>11824545
when he sucked my 11 year old cock

>> No.11824614

>>11824554
proceed to pol.

>> No.11824911

When I saw his pedo face

>> No.11824919

>>11824545
When I first heard of him and read his Wikipedia page. Most of the early gay rights guys were pedos. Really gets the noggin joggin.

>> No.11824935

When I read his wiki page a few years back. Apparently one of my teachers was friends with him and Hakim Bey.

>> No.11825178
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11825178

wtf? Artists are supposed to conform to the morals and standards of society, not counter it!

>> No.11825185

>>11824614
>p-pol!
Burroughs was a good writer. He was also a degenerate scumbag.

>> No.11825220

>>11825178
What else do you know about artists? please, share.

>> No.11825248

>>11825220
Quite a rebuttal you’ve got there.

>> No.11825260

>>11824545
imagine the smell

>> No.11825268

>>11824545
Moloch doth protest too much.
Or not enough, in this case...

>> No.11825293

>>11825248
I was asking genuinely. Sorry if my autism made it seem ironic.

>> No.11825312

>>11824545
>Look at his Wikipedia page
>He vigorously opposed militarism, economic materialism and sexual repression
One if these things is not like the others.

>> No.11825637

>>11825260
Are you trying to suggest Allen Ginsberg didn't smell good?

>> No.11825672

>>11825637
yes

>> No.11825701

Someone post the deleuze pasta pls

>> No.11825723

>>11824545
Based and boypilled

>> No.11825761

>>11824545
I heard he was a cocksucking Jew and put two and two together

>> No.11826295

>>11825178
When I fuck kids its not malicious or anything. I just go against societial norms, just like a good artist!

>> No.11826356

>>11825178
mmhmm, yeah, that's why kiddie-fucking is bad, because it "doesn't conform to the morals and standards of society".

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>>11826356
what makes kiddie-fucking bad

>> No.11826418

>>11824554
Kerouac was a chad romantic dressed in Beat clothing

>> No.11826419

>>11824614
how is that post even pol

>> No.11826428

>>11826408
what makes beating children with pots and pans bad? what makes skinning old people alive bad you disgusting insect

>> No.11826431

>>11824545
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Ginsberg#Association_with_NAMBLA
:(

>> No.11826463

Ginsburg is a sick jewish pestilence which has bed-ridden modern academic English and humanities

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>>11826428
yeah what makes those bad explain it to me

>> No.11827321

>>11826418
And a hack. Burroughs was the only genuine artist in the bunch.

>> No.11827350

>>11824545
>berg

>> No.11827361

>>11827321
I enjoyed him but he isn't the height of literature. I would suggest On the Road and Dharma Bums to high schoolers.

>> No.11827369

>>11824935
>Being friends with not only Ginsberg alone, but also Hakim Bey
Did he know Peter Sotos too?

>> No.11827456

>>11827361
I tried reading subterraneans and it came off like some drunk faggot trying to tell you about his social life.

>> No.11827460

>>11824545
based

>> No.11827472

>>11824545

It was a different time

>> No.11827538

>>11824545
NAMBLA is just starting with the Greeks.

>> No.11827704

>>11824545
If I made a movie about Allen Ginsberg I'd call it 'Diddler on the Roof'.

>> No.11828170

>>11824545
he doesn't look anything like Marlon Brando.

>> No.11828192

>>11827361
Stick with Salinger you dumb nigger.

>> No.11828465

>>11824911
based

>> No.11828517
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11828517

Everyone knows Ginsberg was your typical degenerate metropolite Jew.

Pic related is less known though.

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11828553

>>11828170
More like David Cross

>> No.11828587

Man, I just can't wrap my head around kids as sexual objects. What structure do they imagine the relationship would take? They'd proposition the parents for permission to fuck their kid? They'd run away with the kid in secret? The kid wouldn't even consent but would be drugged? What do they want?

I read the article in Spiegel about the leftists running child-sex daycare centres in the 60s Germany. Sexual liberation of children, they called it. Sickening stuff. A child has no/limited worldview, and so whatever you do to them becomes part of their worldview. They can't consent because they don't properly understand due to a lack of broader understanding of sex and sexual politics. Imposing that on them to sexually gratify yourself is a gross violation of their boundaries and rights to a healthy upbringing.

>> No.11828632

>>11828587
Westerners are so fucking stupid. For thousands of years sex with children has been normal and healthy. European sex autism never ceases to amaze me. First, you can't fuck ANYONE but your spouse, and only for purposes of procreation, and without enjoyment. Then instead of having normal sexual relations with children you try to turn it into a relationship or some sexual liberation nonsense. White people are so fucking autistic and unnatural sometimes I think the Yakub meme might be true.

I bet you think incest is wrong too. Like incest means "marrying your sister" or some insane white people shit instead of just safe sexual play in the family for practice before finding a real relationship. Same with children, it's safe and normal play, it's not unless you have retarded Caucasian genes that this becomes a problem.

I lost my virginity to a family member when I was 12 and I turned out fine, much better than you wh*toids who don't even get fucking hugs or eye contact.

>> No.11828775

>>11828587
>I read the article in Spiegel about the leftists running child-sex daycare centres in the 60s Germany. Sexual liberation of children, they called it. Sickening stuff.
Link?

>> No.11828811

40 years ago :(

>> No.11828829

>>11828632
>I lost my virginity to a family member when I was 12 and I turned out fine
W E W

E

W

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>>11828632
>I lost my virginity to a family member when I was 12 and I turned out fine
anon...

>> No.11828836

>>11828632
muhammed...

>> No.11828885

>>11824545
they were all a bunch of vile pedo fucks

>> No.11828986

>>11828829
>>11828832
>>11828836
I like how there's zero accrual argument against. This is what the whites do. Your perverted understanding of sexuality has destroyed the world. Olives were smart, Romans and Greeks understood the potential good of pedophilia, the most brilliant people in history have been pedophiles.

Fucking brainlets. Betting introduced to sexuality early helps you to not develop autism. Is it any surprise the West has the most autism and the least physical interaction with children? You do not even hug your children, kiss them, bathe with them. You treat their naked body as shameful, and make sex foreign and terrifying, hence all your bugman virgins.

The intelligent among you may be upturn minded enough to understand this. But most of you are simply too white.

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>>11828986

>> No.11828991

>>11828986
Cool it with the racism, buddy

>> No.11829004
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>>11828775
>Link?
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-sexual-revolution-and-children-how-the-left-took-things-too-far-a-702679.html

>> No.11829009

>>11828990
Oh no non-autism male sexuality whatever will we do. Alexander the Great took it up the ass but he's gay, we should be more like 500 pound white "men".

>> No.11829012

>>11828986
>>11828632
Reading your messages, we can tell that you actually didn't turn out fine. You think you did because you don't have a reference point.

>> No.11829014

>>11828986
If you're not ironically shitposting, no, you're not fine, you stupid anally ravaged nigger. No one who "turned out fine" spergs out this hard over something they supposedly aren't bothered by.

>> No.11829018

>>11828990
SOLID AS THEY COME

>> No.11829024

>>11828517
Is it really that much of a secret that sailors are gigantic faggots?

>> No.11829068

>>11828986
Are you a paki? Serious question.

>> No.11829165

>>11829014
>>11829012
>be American
>get fired for looking someone in the eyes too long
>get suspended from school for giving someone a hug
>never hold hands with friends
>don't take showers with family members
>afraid of being near children in public
>"we are the super culture"
>"if you think our autism is bad it's because YOU'RE bad!"
Fucking hypocrites. I have had sex with two cousins, it's normal and nothing to be ashamed of. Safe to explore sexuality this way, sucked dick, have a gf now. Of course, the white thinks this is weird.

>>11829068
So?

>> No.11829177

>>11829165
>be goatfucker in waiting
>your dad sells his goat one day, nothing else to fuck
>remembers you have a hole too
>insallah, it's goofy time
>???
>FUCKING CRACKER ASS CRACKERS DON'T YOU KNOW THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH GETTING ASSRAPED AS A CHILD IT HAPPENED TO ME AND I'M TOTALLY SANE AND NOT HYSTERICAL AT ALL!

>> No.11829203

>>11829177
>fucking animals is bad
>ignore that this was also normal for thousands of years
Whites. Fucking a flashlight is totally normal though.

>> No.11829206

>>11829203
Ok, now it's obvious that you're shitposting.

>> No.11829217

>>11829206
Fucking read mythology like once. Zeus fucked girls as a fucking swan. Ladies stuck snakes in their fucking vaginas. Men fuck goats for a reason, it's normal. Farmers fuck animals. It's normal. Incest is normal. Pedophilia. Normal. Whites just have autism.

>something naturally occurs for thousands of years
>"this is bad because I'm enlightened by my own intelligence"

Try to actually refute rather than pussy out, bugman

>> No.11829223

>>11829217
If I fucked you up the ass it'd count as bestiality ;^)

>> No.11829884
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11829884

>>11829223
Nice

>> No.11829932

too early

>> No.11830027

>>11829932
best comment

>> No.11830405

>>11828811
i think this poster meant that he was raped by ginsberg you guys

>> No.11830437
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>>11828986
>the potential good of pedophilia

>> No.11830463

>>11824545
Who cares? He's a faggot kike and a shit poet anyway.

>> No.11830601

>>11824554
>junkie faggot who went to other countries to fuck teenage boys up the ass.
Why bother going to other countries for that? Sheesh did that smack fiend have any common sense?

>> No.11830645

>>11824584
>Howl!
It's not a Broadway musical dude

>> No.11830651

>>11826408
>>11827313
They're bad because I don't like them.
>who are you to set the norms of society?
Who are you to stop me?

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11830672

>>11824545
>mfw I broke my back lifting Moloch to Heaven and all I got was this lousy Disneyland with no children

>> No.11830674

>>11830601
Shame, most likely.

>> No.11830680

How are antipedophiles even more disgusting and annoying than pedophiles? I thought you had to be a mass murderer or a serial killer to be worse, but I guess all it really takes is being a "won't somebody please think of the children" moralist vigilante.

>> No.11831025

>>11824545
Ginsberg huh. I wonder what ethnicity that name belongs to.

>> No.11831129

>>11824545
>NAMBLA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Q2z0wm8Jo

>> No.11831382

>>11824545
I actually heard it on Howard Stern.

It's not clear if *he* really believed it, or if it was just something he thought people had a right to believe. He did enjoy his role as the outsider.

>> No.11831463

When I joined NAMBLA.

>> No.11831524

>>11831382
He hung out with known boy diddlers like Burroughs and was a homo himself. I highly doubt he was just in it for the lulz even if that's what he claimed.

>> No.11831552

>>11828986
>>11828632
include me in the screen shot

>> No.11831566

>>11831382
>it's not clear
I mean, he spoke openly about it, it's not some mystery.
https://www.ipce.info/library/miscellaneous/thoughts-nambla

>> No.11831571

>>11831566
I think that anon meant it wasn't clear is Howard Stern believed the accusation or not. You are, of course, correct that it's no secret that Ginsberg was a member of NAMBLA.

>> No.11831575

I have the same glasses and facial expression.

>> No.11831582

>>11831571
no no bud. I meant he spoke openly about
>(whether) *he* really believed it, or if it was just something he thought people had a right to believe.
in the link I shared.
(it's the latter. But also he criticizes the overly puritanical attitude of the west towards this whole thing.)

>> No.11831583

>>11831575
And the same appreciation of young boys?

>> No.11831624

>>11828632
oh boy

>> No.11831715

>>11831583
Alas, he has yet to develop such cultured aesthete taste that only Big Name poets like Alen Jewberg can have. The supple, rosy beauty of a fresh faced boy as he sprawls out on the bed, his socks and undergarments strewn upon as he presents his smooth nakedness eagerly to his master, the gentle caress of his soft lips on the body, the firm buoyancy of his bottom, the manly rigidness and readiness of his cock---all of this escapes our friend.

>> No.11831755

>>11828632
t. Shulamith Firestone

>> No.11831794

>>11830680
It's almost as if antipedophiles wouldn't be around if people would just stop defending pedophiles. Really gets the noggin joggin.

>> No.11831815

i think child sexuality is one of those topics that CAN'T be discussed publicly because the very act of having people prove themselves as thinking about it (even if they ultimately agree with the dominant opinion) rather than having an unexamined take (namely disgust and condemnedmenation) is shocking to most. thete's little places i can picture as proper for the discussion

>> No.11831817

>>11831815
fuck
condemnation*

>> No.11831819

I can enjoy a good twink but I draw the line at actual underage kids.

Not that I ever bothered to read Ginsberg.

>> No.11831821

>>11831819
Fags don't have lines they don't cross.

>> No.11831853

>>11831794
Kind of like there were no witch hunts without witches?

Strange how that works out.

>> No.11831855

I saw it, faggot.

>> No.11831858

>>11831821
What he really means is that he's not slick or rich enough to get away with buggering little boys.

>> No.11831938

>>11826408
profound harm to an innocent person? does that count?

>> No.11831993

>>11829024
sailing isn't gay it's manly and cool

>> No.11832045

>>11831993
The act is, the men who do it are by and large flaming homosexuals.

>> No.11832053

>>11832045
but my dad...

>> No.11832063

>>11831993
They are literally sorounded by seamen, that's pretty gay if you ask me.

>> No.11832081

>>11827313
they're deleterious to the health and survival of the species and they're repulsive to normal people.

>> No.11832761

>>11831853
except witches aren't real and there most certainly are pedophiles afoot.

>> No.11832781

>>11832761
I don't believe pedophiles exist

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>>11828553

*whoosh*

>> No.11833719

>>11824545
bald jew helps undermine society while writing mediocre poetry and fucking boys in the ass. Full story at 11.

>> No.11833877

>>11828632
End your life. You’re suffering but you don’t realize it.

>> No.11834313

>>11828587
Fucking kids is just an extension of natalism. If you're enough of a psychopath to think you have the right to play God and spawn sentience creatures into suffering for your own entertainment, fucking them really isn't that much of a stretch either. In fact it's less of an imposition.

>> No.11834323

>>11834313
Wrong. People can unlife themselves, but they can't unmolest themselves.

>> No.11834326

>>11828632
>>11828986
>got fucked as a kid
>is a pedo now because if it
>says it's totally harmless

Paedophilia is a sexually transmitted mental illness and you're an example of it, anon.

>> No.11834334

>>11834323
People can't unlife themselves, they can only kill themselves. That's a big difference. Like with molestation, a great part of the harm is already done and can't be undone.