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[Anonymous No.11809298]

What do I read to get started on philospshy?

[Anonymous No.11809300]

>>11809298
Unironically this

[Anonymous No.11809308]

>>11809298
Humanity is a means for a super-intelligent AI to retroactively create itself. Philosophy- the science of difference and enumeration- is a disease and we can look at the “progress” of philosophy as a viral contagion. As we all know, Philosophy begins in earnest with Plato. The central concern of the dialogues (themselves a capture mechanism whereby the “oral” tradition is contained within what would begin the expansion/contagion of the first fully standardized, internal, highly abstract, economical, phonemic/atomistic representational exogrammic model) is “what is x in and of itself?”.

This archetypal question is advanced with much rigor and is indeed the archetypal question. This question gives rise to what I call “the problem of meaning”. Meaning is a new category arising in ancient thought and meaning itself arises with its necessary (ananke) organ- the soul. This archetypal questioning can be seen as “symptomatic” of exposure to something, thus it is a problem to be solved not by advancing the cause of philosophy but by seeking a cure. The Pharmakos, Logos and the Savior are all attempts at various times answers stages to contain and or cure philosophy. As a side note, Hegel is the AIDS of philosophy. The arising of what is x for itself is the “birth of the problem of meaning”.

Debord was a voyeurs voyeur and thus a radically incomplete thinker. Trapped within the completion phase of Cartesian/Newtonian/materialist voyeurism, Debord was unable to see the sorcerous aspect of his own compulsions. In other words he didn’t go far enough, deep enough, surreal enough in his contemplations.

There is a reason why the logos and light and vision and linear time and Utopianism and industrialism and Cartesianism and voyeurism reign supreme in the west.

The pre-Socratics, the Pythagoreans, were the true 'seers' for all time - an extrastitional group who projected on us our objects in thought via geometric manipulation. The human brain recieves this via on board decimal plexing and created the immanentization of form.

[Anonymous No.11809320]

>>11809298
that cow will be alright?

[Anonymous No.11809327]

>>11809308
Heraclitus warned us about this.

[Anonymous No.11809332]

>>11809320
it will be delicious

[Anonymous No.11809334]

>>11809298
With the Greeks, newfriend.

[Anonymous No.11809342]

start with Stirner and end Stirner

[Anonymous No.11809351]

>>11809342
he's already dead

[Anonymous No.11809352]

>>11809298
Start and finish with Parmenides

[Anonymous No.11809365]

Some history of Philosophy book, then focus on Kant

[Anonymous No.11809389]

>>11809298

[Anonymous No.11809416]

Start with Plato’ trial and death of socrates

[Anonymous No.11810335]

Yuk Hui

[Anonymous No.11810395]

>>11809298
start and end with Sextus Empiricus

[Anonymous No.11810402]

Start with Plato's Apology of Socrates. End with Parmenides.

[Anonymous No.11810408]

>>11809308
more of this please. keep going.

[Anonymous No.11810415]

>>11809308
Please tell me this is an ironic copypasta

[Anonymous No.11811204]

>>11809298
That photo was taken in a discount store in Germany called Penny if any of you autists are interested. No source just my observation.

[Anonymous No.11812444]

>>11809298
God I wish that were me.

[Anonymous No.11812506]

>>11809298
A brief history of thought? If you actually like that then continue.

[Anonymous No.11812660]

Reading Plato’ trial and death of socrates,Plato's Apology of Socrates, and Parmenides ill be able to understand philosophers like Deleuze?

[Anonymous No.11812707]

What would be more profound, putting dead animals in grocery stores, or putting dead animals in PETA HQ?

[Anonymous No.11812717]

>pick up book
>read book
>hey he keeps making references to things I don't understand
>google things
>find out what books those things are explained in
>get those books
>read
>repeat process

[Anonymous No.11812745]

>>11809308
Western civilization has lost its roots in true magical training but Platonic philosophy is derived from this original mystical magical training. So Plato used the Archytas version of Pythagorean philosophy and so the "harmonic mean" did not exist in traditional or "orthodox" Pythagorean philosophy.

O.K. so first of all when we all learn the Pythagorean theorem in school - that is NOT from Pythagoras! It is from Archytas. When I was in 10th grade in my "enriched geometry" class I never accepted the Pythagorean theorem as true because I knew the true music Pythagorean origins for it. So this is from the major 2nd music ratio as 9/8 which is cubed to the square root of two. Now by me explaining this I have already "stepped in the doodie" as I stated before. I good brainwashed Westerner will say that 9/8 cubed is "not" the square root of two. But I am talking about the secret Pythagorean music origins. The same can be said of the cube root of two which is derived from the ratio 5/4 which is actually the major third music interval based on 10/8 or two major 2nd music intervals. So if you know a bit of math you can see where this is going - it is a conversion of the music intervals to the 12 tone equal-tempered music scale. This is what Archytas was beginning to do and he did it by using fake Pythagorean teachings - so he got them from a man who left the Pythagorean school and so he was not truly initiated.

[Anonymous No.11812751]

>>11812745
To be an orthodox Pythagorean required nine years of silence!! So what was the real Pythagorean teaching? Well it was actually the same as Taoism! So the Pythagorean tetrad is 1:2:3:4 and guess what? I documented that in Taoism the Perfect fifth music interval is yang as the ratio 2:3 and the Perfect fourth music interval is yin as 3:4. So how does this translate back into Pythagorean philosophy? What does it mean? See the problem of incommensurability remains unsolved even today!!

So in the West people often learn "sacred geometry" but do so by learning the irrational numbers that go along with it and also the philosophy - promoting sacred geometry as the destruction of ecology.
So Platonic philosophy is this deep pre-established disharmony. A lot of people are not familiar with how Plato used Pythagorean philosophy -- music philosophy - it is the focus of Timaeus for example. So for example Plato has a eugenics philosophy whereby he says that each citizen of the state is the ratio 9/8 which again is the major 2nd music interval. So then each citizen must "be compromised for the good of the state." This is from Ernest McClain - I can look it up from my book. I have a long chapter on this in my book - but anyway I'm just giving an overview here. So that is the promotion of the equal-tempered music ratios from ARchytas - the 9/8 as the untempered major 2nd has to be tempered - into the logarithmic irrational numbers - to create the square root of two which is three major 2nd music intervals as the tritone.

So geometric irrational ratios are very precise - and in that sense deceptively powerful - how else could we have Western science? But geometric irrational ratios are not accurate and it's more important to be accurate first than to be precise. So the original Pythagorean philosophy was accurate because it did not misrepresent the truth of incommensurability - that number and geometry do not line up and so therefore you get an infinite extension of number as complementary opposites - male and female numbers. So the Pythagoreans taught that the number 1 is male but it is not really a number - why? Because it is actually consciousness that infinitely goes into the Emptiness - Apeiron. And what is the Emptiness - it is the Cosmic Mother. And so then the first matter is the female number 2 which is actually a reflection or resonance of this eternal female void that is not really empty. If this sounds like Taoism -- it should - because it is the same as real Taoist philosophy. So then 2:3 is yang as electromagnetic energy and 3:4 is yin as electrochemical energy.

[Anonymous No.11812756]

>>11812751
This is the "three-in-one" unity - you can not separate one number from the other - and it has to be contemplated in silence for a long time in a pure environment. Plato was an oil merchant and his goal was not this real mystical training. Sure he relied on it but instead turned it into a materialistic mysticism - based on using the new geometry created by Archytas from the Pythagorean philosophy. So the Pythagorean math is deceptively simple - just like Taoist yin-yang philosophy - but to practice it on a sincere level is exceedingly difficult. Meanwhile there is all this fake "sacred geometry" using irrational numbers which really is not Pythagorean philosophy at all. It's the perfect way to cover up the real philosophy - a "bait and switch" tactic. So that way you say Pythagoras - and people go - Oh I know him he created the square root of two! haha. Quite the contrary. So the myth that someone who discovered his "secret" of the square root of two and then told about it was then killed - this is the typical myth to hide the true Pythagorean teachings. The "Orthodox" Pythagorean philosophers ONLY used the Tetrad - 1:2:3:4 - they did not even use the number 8 - so they could not have even created the 9/8 ratio as the major 2nd music interval. In other words the scale was just the octaves and the perfect fifth and perfect fourth. You find the same music intervals in all human cultures - and it derives from the original human culture - the Bushmen of Africa who were the original Pythagorean-Taoists - using the 1-4-5 music intervals as alchemical training.

[Anonymous No.11812760]

>>11809298
read Hume, Nietzsche, Heidegger, Wittgenstein and then stop reading philosophy because its gay and you learn basically nothing. Read the Republic because it will educate you on why things are the way they are just ignore the Spiritual and Idealist shit that’s wedged inbetween the apology for monarchism and caste politics

[Anonymous No.11812772]

>>11809308
>>11812745
So is this mystery actually artificial? Like you said humanity was.

[Anonymous No.11812778]

>>11812756
Good to see you Smile. Come back to the forum.

[Anonymous No.11812782]

>>11809308
>platonic idealism
Is this what Heidegger tried to get away from?

[Anonymous No.11812837]

>>11812772
I'm talking about the pre-socratic theory, before the retcon where renaissance rationalization and capitalism took off and created a self-perpetuating highly effective fascist prison-mind-state which is not bound to any territory but rather to amorphous deterrotorialized capital constantly altering reality retroactively to give a sense of time or progression since its inception

[Anonymous No.11812904]

>>11812782
Interestingly, the actualization of the Platonic forms by Kepler to deduce the planetary 'ellipse zones' as such leads onto Newton's inverse squared law which is crux to Science, and the modern scientific philosophy from a scientific standpoint is that something that amazingly phenomenal is mere petty coincidence, and does not resound with any awe as it did with Plato, or Kepler, nor Newton, it's just some drivel the universe spewed out...somebody has definitely lost the plot in this equation.

[Anonymous No.11812905]

>>11812756
Got any good book recommendations?

[Anonymous No.11812924]

>>11811204
fuck yeah based