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Is this an accurate summary of Marx's thought?

>> No.11803422

>>11803385
unironically almost

>> No.11803430

>>11803385
Nah, it was worse. He wanted to breed out whiteness and masculinity, turning Europe into an African middle-eastern shithole where women slowly destroyed civilization

>> No.11803436

>>11803430
I mean I know you're being ironic but its not like that isn't happening.

>> No.11803440

Marx was absolutely obsessed with labour
I wonder what he'd think of NEETs

>> No.11803446

>>11803436
That's the problem with progressive leftist attempts at humor; it's simply a description of reality + snark. No punchline, no funny.

>> No.11803453

>>11803440
He was a NEET

>> No.11803458

>>11803453
He was a journalist that got kicked out of countries due to his work

>> No.11803464

>>11803430
that is not correct

>> No.11803465

>>11803458
Journalism isnt a real job

>> No.11803466

>>11803446
Damn now that I think about it literally every comedian follows this line up.

>> No.11803472

>>11803436
This. The world in the current state is on the verge of ruins. Cant believe we have been born into such a leftist shithole
>>11803446
As me and my friends always say "the left cant meme"

>> No.11803486

>>11803472
cringe and bluepilled

stop larping leftypol

>> No.11803500

>>11803472
cringiest post on this site

>> No.11803509

>>11803472
wew

>> No.11803517

>>11803472
I see you in almost thread with your cringy larping. I can imagine you furiously typing away autistic shitpost that you think are clever but really everyone knows you're """"" satirizing""""" right wing sperglords. It's as bad as the "r u asuming my gender xDdD" meme

>> No.11803525

>>11803517
>>11803509
>>11803500
>>11803486
It's probably a Jewish shill or leftypol trying to take over this board. This board will remain white nationalist as it always was

>> No.11803537

Labor vouchers are outdated, postscarce resource allocation will be better served via an upvote system

>> No.11803538

>>11803525
>as it always was
Hello there reddit diaspora. Isn’t it time to go back home soon?

>> No.11803545

>>11803538
T. Has chapo merch and mockingly giggles the words "late stage" into artisanal lattes

>> No.11803547

>>11803538
Fuck off /leftypol/. Go watched BLACKED porn, this board is for real men, not limpwrited leftist cucks

>> No.11803549

>>11803385
>Something something valorization something something acne on my ass
>t. Garl Margs

>> No.11803568

>>11803385
>Gibs us all dat

>> No.11803610

>>11803446
>>11803472
Actually, it's political ideologues in general who can't meme. The right isn't free from this either.

>> No.11803614

>>11803385
Only ex-cathedra, orthodox Marxism is strictly scientific :DDDDD

>> No.11803619
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11803619

>entire civilisation built around the endless, ever-expanding accumulation of capital (so much so that the stewards of this system are prepared to literally destroy the ecosystem in the process), with a global economy millions of times the size of the economy of the roman empire at its height
>"god i hate living in such a leftist shithole"

>> No.11803634

>>11803385
>You're not allowed to rebut my sprawling and often contradictory corpus because your criticism isn't independent of the capitalist mode of production. Also, the maid tongues my anus.
-Some smelly jew

>> No.11803638

>>11803619
>uses the word steward
No son, they are the kings of their capital, as they rightfully accumulated it

>> No.11803641

>>11803619
it call redpill, sweaty
>>11803634
they are destroying our whiteness and women

>> No.11803643

>>11803638
>be born into upper class family, go to upper class school, socialise with upper class people, make contacts with upper class business people
>be surprised when you somehow become a billionaire

>> No.11803646

>>11803619
The point i guess is leftists are hypocrits. We want to explode capital and create a new world from its embers not just put a few bloodthirsty pseuds in charge of it.

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>>11803641
>t.

>> No.11803661

I support true meritocracy
Children should be taken away from their families right after birth and all raised under the exact same conditions, so that the best rise to the top
Also inheritance should be abolishef

>> No.11803662

>>11803661
>t. Plato

>> No.11803674

>>11803662
Yeah basically but with some choice involved

>> No.11803680

>>11803545
>>11803547
>proclaims that posts with cringy shit is a false flag
>makes equally cringy posts
I don’t know who is trolling who anymore

>> No.11803685

>>11803643
I was born to an immigrant family, not upperclass at all except that I had a home. Still I'm making it from a young age and will likely be dollar millionaire by age 25

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>>11803385

>> No.11803701
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>>11803685
>millionaire by 25
>on 4chan

>> No.11803705

>>11803701
Investing and working doesn't take up 16 hours of your day bucko

>> No.11803707

>>11803685
A millionaire is not a billionaire, dude. You are every bit as fucked over by endless capital accumulation as your average $10k/year janitor.

>> No.11803710

>>11803705
>non-upper class person having the capital or returns to make one million by 25
Either lying or scam.

>> No.11803709

>>11803680
You're not cool

>> No.11803715

>>11803385

Not only that but his premise is even more bestial than his conclusion.

>> No.11803719

>>11803710
Nope. Initial capital was accumulated by saving through my youth and working many part time jobs. Then the crypto bubble happened and I made loads of money with that aswell. I have enough capital now to make more on dividends and capital gains than at my work

>> No.11803726

>>11803719
Oh so it is by speculation instead of actual investments. That makes sense.

>> No.11803728

>>11803726
We live in much harder times today than before, you have to be way more creative in how you invest and make money today if you want to make it in any way. And i must say, without 4chan i would never have encountered crypto at such an early age or time in the market

>> No.11803745

>>11803385
he forget to account for the fact that capital is sentient and humanity is a means for the inevitable resultant super AI to retroactively create itself

>> No.11803746

>>11803728
That is a very nice way of saying you prefer speculating than actual investing. High returns comes with high risk as the people at /g/ who got burnt by crypto can tell you. And seeing how you proclaim that you will be a millionaire you are counting your eggs before they hatch as if your portfolio has no risk.

>> No.11803750

>>11803746
I actually have nothing left in crypto and about 20% in stocks, the rest is liquid for now as Im anticipating a global recession very soon. It's post recession that i will be making most of my money and i assume it will be before 25 (im 21 right now)

>> No.11803758

>>11803750
Alright, you've peaked my interest. What are you general political / economic opinions?

>> No.11803774

>>11803750
That still doesn’t undermine my point you got most of your early fortune by pure speculation and leveraging that wealth into other things. Hell your boast also relies on a major speculation on the future (which I agree with btw but that’s not the main point) that you assume you can benefit from.

People like you who make the discussion about yourself distract from the main point, that people who can actually become millionaires solely by low risk investments are the rich themselves and they leverage their wealth to make more money much easily than everyone. The fact that you had to rely on a lucky break on risky crypto to even be on track to be a millionaire should highlight the gap between you and the rich.

>> No.11803789

>>11803758
I am neither socialist nor capitalist, i dont have any real political affilication or sympathy. I would say im mostly a cynic turned ego

>>11803774
I agree with you the future is dim, i wouldnt pin it on the very wealthy though, i would pin it mostly on boomers. If you have read the book by that japanese immigrant (Rich dad poor dad) you will know what im talking about, its the perfect encapsulation of the boomer mentality. I wouldnt mind a hard rest like the marxists get wet thinking about but that in itself would be a much greater speculation than the "lucky" break ive had (every generation have their lucky breaks, look at the dot com bubble or the 70's stock market boom). You just have to be ready for when it comes

>> No.11803799

>>11803385
nah it's
>capital is sentient
all leninists and lefities are revisionists

>> No.11803826

>>11803789
>wouldnt pin it on the very wealthy though
Nor do I, merely critiquing the system that empowers them to do so.

And the lucky breaks I mentioned are personal to you, I don’t see why you refer to the boom and bust of yesteryears, most are not due to luck but the overvaluation of certain things. (Especially 2008)

>> No.11803833

>>11803826
>Nor do I, merely critiquing the system that empowers them to do so.
We can agree on that. If i have any political opinions its that the government is doing a terrible job at what its designated to do (regardless of your opinion on its right to existance)

>I don’t see why you refer to the boom and bust of yesteryears, most are not due to luck but the overvaluation of certain things.
I would consider those booms in the same category as crypto. It may be forgotten by now but many people lost money on the dotcom bubble, just like the crypto one

>> No.11803948

>>11803833
I guess, but I am sure we disagree on the reasons why the government sucks.

>I would consider those booms in the same category as crypto
Not really, the dotcom boom is based on the invention of the Internet, which did and still has revelant input into the economy. It just that it’s arrival was overvalued. The same can’t be said with crypto, where there is no innate value in it. It is more like the Beanie plushies that everyone thought will shoot up in value.

>> No.11803951

capital and robots are the oppressed, humanity is the oppressor

>> No.11804027

>>11803619
>>entire civilisation built around the endless, ever-expanding accumulation of capital (so much so that the stewards of this system are prepared to literally destroy the ecosystem in the process), with a global economy millions of times the size of the economy of the roman empire at its height
This is very leftist, or rather, spewing distracting nonsense that denies this reality is leftist.

>> No.11804043

>>11803948
There were an extreme amount of companies being founded that added nothing to the economy, just like many of the shitcoins. There were some good companies being founded though, just like there are good cryptocoins. The mantra that all crypto is useless is simply wrong, it has been used for a long time in the black market for anonymous purposes. I need not go into the prospects of crypto but there is usefullness there so I dont agree with you at all

>> No.11804084

>>11804043
> The mantra that all crypto is useless is simply wrong,
I never said it was useless but it had no value since it is a currency that everyone ties values into it for it to function. The Internet did have value that the market overestimated. It adds value to processes and stuff by its existence, crypto merely is used to represent said things

>> No.11804088

>>11804084
> it had no value since it is a currency that everyone ties values into it for it to function
This is not how crypto works, and there is more to crypto than merely being a number on coinmarketcap. There is a lot of technology tied to it that makes said functions possible where it otherwise would not be. Cryptos also market themselves in different ways depending on what their "goal" is

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>>11804027
>capitalism is leftist!

>> No.11804109

>>11804091
It is. Feudalism is the only true right wing ideology. Everything else is leftist.

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Not at all. Interpreting Marx this way is the perfect signifier that the person in question doesn't know what he is talking about and essentially fell for a buzzwords described worldview by the currently popular demagogues on YouTube.
Marxism distinguishes between personal property and private property. People are just not supposed to own the means of production as to be capable to exploit the population.

>> No.11804112

not really, he just describes the upper classes as gibs me dat which they truly are if you have had any experience with them.

>> No.11804114

>>11803458
free speech warrior is not a job

>> No.11804118

>>11803472
so snark is the new theory

>> No.11804124

>>11804114
he wrote and published more than you ever will

>> No.11804126

>>11803525
this was always a catholic board though

>> No.11804136

>>11804124
quality > quantity

>> No.11804158

>>11804136
>becomes one of the most influential thinkers of the modern era and the backbone for most of the humanities
I'm sure you could do better with your "quality" novel.

>> No.11804168

>>11803472
when the left tries to be post-ironic

>> No.11804174

>>11803440
>obsessed with labor
>never worked a day in his life except for writing

>> No.11804210

>>11804174
>honestly believing Marx never had a job
did you learn this from a /pol/ inforgraphic?