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Are VN's considered books?

>> No.11784865

>>11784839
For the millionth time, no.

Go away.

>> No.11784888

>>11784839
No, but are there any good lit approved ones?

>> No.11784898

Yes, but only the untranslated ones. Once it's no longer in Japanese the VN ceases to be literature and becomes trash.

>> No.11784900

>>11784888
Subahibi

>> No.11784902

I believe that every 'low culture' medium has at least one fantastic work that works because it plays with the genres tropes (Watchmen, NGE, Shadow of the Colossus etc.) and I would like to think that VNs are no exception, so please prove me right

>> No.11784910

>>11784888
Chaos;Child

>> No.11784914

>>11784839
The girl with prosthetic legs was so clingy, the definition of easy.

>> No.11784936

someone please give me a nice literary review of umineko
it seems interesting but the only people that talk about it are teenagers and weeaboos and i don't trust them

>> No.11784949

>>11784839
I know Manga is.

>> No.11784953

>>11784888
Saya no uta

>> No.11784954

Why are visual novels so long? I tried getting into the medium, but it seemed like a waste of time reading anime shit that was longer than War and Peace.

>> No.11784980

>>11784954
Why are books so long? :(

>> No.11785011

>>11784888
Fate/Stay Night

>> No.11785041

>>11784902
DDLC

>>11784888
see >>11784900

>> No.11785052

>>11785041
DDLC is shit it has a very shallow parody of VNs. There are a lot better ones out there

>> No.11785199

>>11785041
>DDLC
oh my god fuck off

>> No.11785205

>>11784900
>>11784910
>>11784953
>>11785011
>>11784888

No, it mostly harry potter tier ya writing meant for teens.

>> No.11785216

>>11784898
Same with Mishima except it was also trash in japanese

>> No.11785222

>>11785041
commit cancer

>> No.11785267

>>11785222
No u commit not feel very good

>> No.11785973

Who was best cripple girl

>> No.11786049

>>11785973
Shizune. I love feisty, deaf bitches.

>> No.11786058

>>11784839
They combine only the worst aspects of books, anime, and vidya. Truly a trash medium.

>> No.11786066

>>11785973
no legs grill

>> No.11786067

>>11784839
low brow garbage

>> No.11786081

>>11785973
Armless Autism.

>> No.11786130

>>11785973
Rin obv

>> No.11786428

>>11784865
I’m actually kind of surprised how infrequently OP's question is asked here

>> No.11787153

>>11784839
VNs are what they are, Visual Novels. They're not books, nor are they video games. It is its own medium.

>> No.11787160

No

Higurashi was a fairly neat experience when going in blind, but that's about the only time during my VN playing days I felt moderately impressed.

>> No.11787161

>>11784839
Henri Bergson

>> No.11787180

>>11784839
No, but the Rin route was worth reading.

>> No.11787379
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11787379

are H games (hentai games) literature?

>> No.11787504
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11787504

>>11784888
I'm as big of a weeb fag so I love most of them but people say that Cross Channel is one of the few with genuinely beautiful (or at least unique) prose in the Japanese. Though the current English translation is clunky, even if some overstate its unfaithfulness.

SeaBed is a really good one that not enough people play. It's also a good one for people who aren't used to them yet but are used to novels since outside of the art there's barely anything typical of anime and otaku culture about it.

I don't know if I'd outright recommend SubaHibi as a first to someone who isn't into the medium in general because so many people here seem to think it's too long and bloated (poor fellows). Besides SeaBed, Saya no Uta is a good one to start with because it's short. Kikokugai: The Cyber Slayer is another awesome short one, but it's more of a kickass wuxia sci-fi thing that isn't too deep.

>>11785973
Rin best personality, Shizune best looks.

>> No.11787535

>>11785041
DDLC was pretty creepy but come on, it's obvious the dude just went "hey let's make a creepypasta VN where it seems innocent at first then spooks you"

>> No.11787567

>>11785052
>>11785199
>>11785222
>>11787535
lol DDLC is one of the few games that can compete with other forms of art

>> No.11787583

>>11787567
Why do you think that?

>> No.11787600

>>11787583
triggering VN aficionados is high quality performance art, while all other VNs are just cliched adolescent-tier stories over anime backgrounds and cheap soundtracks

>> No.11787633

>>11784839
I love the Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney series. Those VNs are not quite books (they're interactive, especially in the court scenes), but definitely literature.

>> No.11787640

>>11787600
For a high quality performance art, triggering weebs seems very entry level. Yuri the worst girl.

>> No.11787666

>>11787379
Any characters in novels who are Rance-like?

>> No.11787729

>>11784888
seconding Subahibi for /lit/ tier

>> No.11787755

>>11787666
>unlimited potential squandered for pussy
>extreme raep and god-like sexual prowess
>fucks 300 women a year
>somehow love shy
>violent asshole
extra zesty Byronic antihero

>> No.11787785

>>11787755
huh?

>> No.11787792

>>11787785
play Rance and read Byron

>> No.11787831

>>11787600
>while all other VNs are just cliched adolescent-tier stories over anime backgrounds and cheap soundtracks
Wrong

>> No.11787837

>>11787831
He's not wrong though

>> No.11787840

I liked Danganronpa 1 desu

>> No.11787842

>>11787837
He is wrong. All you'd need to do to prove him wrong is post a game with a decent soundtrack.

>> No.11787869
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>>11784900
Fucking this.

If there is one piece of media that should be remembered it is wonderful everyday down the rabbit hole.
Honestly I went though it pretty fast the first time. So when I next read it I am going to read it the same way I would read greek philosophy.

Man.

Just go read Subahibi and if you get it on steam make sure you get the adult patch because 90% of the game is unlocked with that. (because steam found the game to 'intense').

Anyways.

Go read Subahibi right now you degenerates.

>> No.11787871

>>11787869
Sucks that the new edition with the extra chapter and full voices (including Tomosane) probably won't ever be released in English.

>> No.11787872
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>>11787567
>>11787600
T. brainlet

DDLC is the 'edgy young adult fiction' of the VIsual novel genre.

>> No.11787883
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11787883

>>11787869
>(because steam found the game to 'intense')
Gee I wonder why

>> No.11787885
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>>11787871
Yeah my favourite part of Subahibi was when the main character was gang raped and forced to wear a dress by the bullies. I also liked the part where the teacher fucked her dad in front of the mom and then rode across town naked to appease jesus christ before being made into a human toilet.. And lets not forget The transgender karate master bartender. or the
wholesome lesbian sex scenes. but most importantantly lets not forget when the evil cult rapes a stuffed rabbit and pulls it's limbs off one by one infront of the main girl (guy (guy?)) who thinks it's actually her childhood friend.

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>>11787883
To be fair all these scenes are unironically necessary to the authors philosophical discussion with the reader. It's just sex, does it make you uncomfortable?

>> No.11787890

>>11787885
>evil cult rapes a stuffed rabbit and pulls it's limbs off one by one infront of the main girl (guy (guy?)) who thinks it's actually her childhood friend.
You're misremembering. They did that in front of Hasaki, because Takuji perceived Hasaki and her doll as Tsukasa and Kagami. Yuki only found the doll in the sewer afterwards.

>> No.11787892

>>11787889
What does what I like have to do with anything? You can't sell porn on Steam. It has nothing to do with Subahibi specifically.

>> No.11787895
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>>11787890
well it has been a while.

>> No.11787902

>>11787883
Ok now I know I won't play that

>> No.11787941

>>11787902
but it's high art

>> No.11787951

>>11787941
You're a moron

>> No.11787976

The best visual novel is _____Clannad___

>> No.11788027
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11788027

>>11784902
>Watchmen
>NGE
>Shadow of the Colossus

>> No.11788032

>>11784902
Muv-Luv Alternative

>> No.11788050

>>11787842
no, you would have to post an expensive soundtrack and not one made by a freelance musical conservatory graduate for pennies on the hour in fruity loops studio

>> No.11788066

>>11788050
What counts as """expensive"""?

>> No.11788070

>>11788066
Full orchestra would be one requirement, or a famous musician/composer.

>> No.11788145

>>11788027
they're all great though

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>>11788145
literally boomer-core

>> No.11788261
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11788261

I liked Root Letter and Steins Gate.
I realize those are babby's first VNs though.

>> No.11788387
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11788387

It's obviously The Silver Case but probably 10 people on this board played it so

>> No.11788405

>>11784839
they are as much books as ebooks and picture books, it's just a "new" medium.

>> No.11788429

>>11788387
Silver Case is kino and Killer7 is art

>> No.11788430
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>>11788206

>> No.11788447

>>11788430
why did you post an image of chandelure

>> No.11788471

Saya no Uta is one of the rare VNs that
1)Has a neat concept
2)Uses "moe" against the reader and not to simply make him buy the game
3)Has actual philosophical subtext without namedropping anything to impress the simple-minded
4)Doesn't take 20 to 50hrs of your life to finish

>> No.11788535

>>11788471
5) is shit

>> No.11788536

>>11784888
Swan song

>> No.11788753

>>11788447
Look at the flames

>> No.11788755

>>11788753
ohhhhhhhhh

>> No.11788776

>>11788753
(You)
Ahah that was cool

>> No.11788781

>>11784839
I remember when the mods made VN's /v/ related, now all they have to do to piss everyone off is allow them on /lit/ as well, that way VN's can have three shitposting boards, /jp/, /v/ and /lit/.

>> No.11788790

>>11788387
Been meaning to get around to this

>> No.11788793

>>11788781
Basically are allowed here anywhere considering mods never come here. Only way something on /lit/ get deleted 90% of the time is if it's mass reported

>> No.11788809

>>11788781
>three shitposting boards, /jp/, /v/ and /lit/

you're not thinking big enough, If I wanted to make a VN thread and get some replies I could make one on pretty much every board in existence. /tg/, /co/, /mu/ (ost thread), /r9k/, /vr/, /vp/, /tv/, /s4s/, /bant/, /qa/, /ic/, /d/, /h/, and so on..

>> No.11788956

Shizune is the sexiest of the girls, with her blue hair and big boobs. But Lily has the nicest personality, and Emi has the best route.

>> No.11788960

>>11788781
VNs are only supposed to be allowed on /jp/ and /vg/

>> No.11789574

>>11784888
Saya no Uta
Cross†Channel

>> No.11789580

>>11788956
>not wanting to fuck a quadripalegic

What are you, gay? She can’t resist

>> No.11789672

Where would I even download SubaHibi?

>> No.11789754

>>11789672
something called google might be able to help with that

>> No.11791375

>>11784949
Unironically this

>> No.11791501

>>11784888
SeaBed

>> No.11791522
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11791522

RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MANGA IS NOT /LIT/ GET OFF MY BOARD WEEAABOO , YOU SHITS

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11791549

Was the Tale of Genji the original otome game?

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>>11787504
>>11787729
>>11787869
Suhabihi is the most pleb shit ever. It's so up its own ass that its main message is directly referred to be worthless by the end of thes tory, known by everyone unconsciously. The mystery aspect is revealed to be stupid shit. No one should ever have the displeasure of reading Subahibi. The only interesting aspect of note is the mention that we are born and die in a hospital. Everything else is just boring shit.

>>11784888
Umineko. Ever17. Higurashi.

>>11784936
It's a deconstruction of the mystery and detective genre placed in modern fantasy setting in a literal format. It's basically an homage to the classic And Then There Were None then progressively becomes more and more meta. The ending will either infuriate you and make you respect its decision, especially if you know how And Then There Were None ends. I don't think any mystery novel compare to it.

>>11784954
Visual Novels act as basically long form stories the same way you would watch a long form TV show.

>> No.11791759

>>11789672
Steam

>> No.11791766
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11791766

Visual novels are literature of the highest quality.

>> No.11791779

>>11791766
How is that sentence even deep?

>> No.11791792

>>11791766
damn . . . . . . .

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>>11784888
Muramasa
it's kino

>> No.11791936

Just make sure not to read anything by Uchikoshi and Ryukishi07. Massive hacks celebrated by embarrassing teenagers who don't know better.

>> No.11791964

>>11791936
999 is absolute shit compared to Ever17.
At least Ryukishi can write.

>> No.11791980

>>11791964
>Ryukishi can write
Good joke.

>> No.11792009

>>11784839
I couldn't even play half these games if I wanted to, pretty sure they're illegal here.

>> No.11792089

>>11791737
goddamnit rikafag

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>>11787951
Your the fucking moron here

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>>11791766
wow...

>> No.11792978

Fate Stay night is longer than

The Bible
LOTR
War and Peace
COMBINED

Why would you waste your time reading adolescent shit full of fillers instead of these three books?

>> No.11793082

I don't get why people consider muv luv a masterpiece or even a 9/10.
Not even talking about extra or unlimited, but alternative is just extremely shallow in its writing. It's like any generic hollywood action movie with some war drama thrown in. The action is certainly good, but that's really all it has.