/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11756280]

You rage you lose.
This so called "poet" has 50,000 followers on instagram and her self-published books have rave reviews on Amazon. Every one of her shitty poems on instagram has dozens and dozens of comments of people saying stuff like, "omg so beautiful"

But it is all so trite, so vapid, so devoid of any insight or literary use of language!! Fuck! Her poetry is SO BAD. I could write the same shit in less than 10 seconds per poem.

https://www.instagram.com/n.r.hart/?hl=en

[Anonymous No.11756287]

>>11756280
yes yes we live in an age of vapid sentiment and narcissism, this is old new m8.

[Anonymous No.11756291]

>>11756280
I would never want my highest achievement to be instagram comments and rave reviews on Amazon.com

[Anonymous No.11756296]

I know next to nothing about poetry but this literally reads like a parody. This is middle school level shit. Jesus.

[Anonymous No.11756300]

look at this. this is not a poem! this is NOT. A. FUCKING. POEM! RKJHKSJF SK KJSHK

[Anonymous No.11756305]

idk, some of her stuff reminds me of the classics

[Anonymous No.11756306]

I've written better work completely inebriated. What a degenerate loser!

[Anonymous No.11756311]

>>11756305
delete that abomination

[Anonymous No.11756318]

maybe we should leave her alone...

[Anonymous No.11756325]

>>11756300
The idea of a poem went out the window when we started to consider unbroken paragraphs of text with no rhyme scheme or meters poetry too. The word has no meaning anymore, beyond wanting to hang doilies on what amounts to prose.

[Anonymous No.11756334]

>>11756325
No.

[Anonymous No.11756340]

>>11756325
Immensely talented people like Rimbaud could make poetry out of that form. Rimbaud you will note studied Latin and Greek as a child, won prizes for Latin poetry as a child, mastered metred rhyme, and then created some poetry which while beautiful is inferior to his metred rhyme.

Compare to the type of people who write in these styles today.

[Anonymous No.11756350]

>>11756325
>>11756334
>>11756340
meanwhile, at the Poetry section of the Harvard Review

[Anonymous No.11756366]

>>11756305
wtf i hate love now

[Anonymous No.11756367]

>>11756350
That's like saying the 3 minute rock song is a horrible form and then bringing up Lady Gaga or some other shitty artist as an example. You can find plenty of bad poetry that uses meter and rhyme schemes too.

[Anonymous No.11756368]

>>11756318
And it's not even grammatical. If she wants to have the run-on sentences for stylistic reasons, okay whatever, but the "them" at the end should be an "us." It doesn't even make sense how it is now.

[Anonymous No.11756373]

this thread kind of make me want to write poetry again, I don't care what that guy said to me in that thread where people were posting their poems and I posted one of my poems and he was very negative about my capacities as a poet.

[Anonymous No.11756377]

>>11756350
That is at least poetry. I don't really like it but it is poetry, especially the beginning, after which it degenerates. It has at least the hint of a rhythm and musicality to it, and enough ambiguity to present the possiblity of essence that poetry aims at. Whereas the girl in this thread is just not poetry, neither is Rupi Kaur.

[Anonymous No.11756380]

>>11756373
Yea, in a way this should be inspirational. This woman has tens of thousands of followers and apparently sells books on Amazon. It's not like the bar is particularly high to be a recognized poet outside of the literary establishment.

[Anonymous No.11756392]

>>11756367
Lady Gaga excels at pop music. She is one of the best of the past 20 years at top 40 style pure pop. Very few of the people who make the charts achieve the success she did for the few years she dominated them.

The difference between Lady Gaga and the best of art rock, whatever you think is best, Dylan, the Velvet underground, i have no idea, is astronomcally smaller than the difference between the two of them and Handel or Bach.

[Anonymous No.11756398]

>>11756392
she's just one of a million female pop "artists" who can never write a song without a co-writer, usually a male, who everyone knows actually wrote the thing

[Anonymous No.11756438]

>>11756398
I dont think so there are a handful of female pop artists in the top 40 who actually artistically and lyrically direct their music. Lana del Rey, Taylor Swift, Sia, Adele for example.

There are purely manufactured singers as well, people like Rihanna, Ariana Grande, Miley Cyrus, whatever. It's not that hard to tell them apart, the former have a 'thing' the rest of them just get their songs written by Bruno Mars or whoever.

Lady Gaga had an identifiable thing, especially the way she made her choruses was extremely identifiable. They all make songs with those male songwriters that write all the stuff of course, but they also do their own stuff.

[Anonymous No.11756619]

What the fuck is with brainlet English major dropouts who think that cutting mildly incoherent sentences into lines is poetry? I think that in certain cases that technique could probably be used effectively (using it to create tension that is resolved in the next line or something) but these idiots do ONLY that with seemingly no purpose and other English undergrad dropouts eat it up.

[Anonymous No.11756646]

>>11756325
>The idea of a poem went out the window when we started to consider unbroken paragraphs of text with no rhyme scheme or meters poetry too. The word has no meaning anymore, beyond wanting to hang doilies on what amounts to prose.
The idea of a poem
went out the
window when

we started to consider unbroken
paragraphs
of text

with no rhyme
scheme or meters poetry too
The word has no meaning anymore

beyond wanting to hang
doilies
on what
amounts
to
prose

FTFY

[Anonymous No.11756656]

step aside, peons

[Anonymous No.11756664]

>>11756280
Can you actually recite a single *good* poem for heart or are you the umpteenth pseud on this board who just gets off at picking easy targets?

[Anonymous No.11756709]

no one cool on lit browses or even clicks on these threads.

[Anonymous No.11757796]

>>11756350
Hey, I couldn't write it at least.

[Anonymous No.11757808]

>>11756280
it's just shabby chic poetry for white thrash girls, nothing to be mad about

[Anonymous No.11757832]

>>11756709
that's not
true, i
just clicked on
this

and i'm very cool
that being said,
i'm leaving
shortly

[Anonymous No.11757915]

This board unironically shat on a Wallace Stevens poem posed as a Savannah Brown poem. I wouldn't trust what any y'all have to say.

[Anonymous No.11757938]

>>11757915
it was a shit one though.

[Anonymous No.11758036]

>>11756280
I love you, I always have and I always will,
now bend over little bitch and pay that fucking bill

[Anonymous No.11758040]

The time you spent being a buttblasted sperg about the latest instagram fad could be better spent browsing poetry reviews at New Criterion. And yet you are here, looking for a cheap backpat from your fellow pseuds. Sad and banal tbhfam.

[Anonymous No.11758132]

>>11756280

[Anonymous No.11758279]

>>11756373
Fuck, man, sorry. That might have been me.

I just hate how lazy people are, and how faux-deep their writing is, and then they try to pass it off as poetry. I wasn't trying to hurt your feelings or anything, man (if you are who I think you are). I was just hurt at how shit poetry has become.

I'm more hurt that people have come to embrace this shitty poetry in some misguided claim to feel enlightened or gifted. It's like "The Emperor's New Clothes", but in real life. That's my bad, man. I didn't mean to piss you off.

[Anonymous No.11758285]

>pop shit is awful

Alright we get it already.

[Anonymous No.11758310]

>>11758040
idk, if I were Charles Darwin, and I saw some snake oil salesman getting rich and famous before me, I'd probably be pretty pissed at him too

[Anonymous No.11758335]

>>11756656
ee cumings wrote great poems, I don't appreciate only posting his concrete poetry

[Anonymous No.11758344]

>>11756305
>literally "i'm not like the other girls"

[Anonymous No.11758396]

>I wake
>In a state of awe
>As I come back

>Four girls
>But why
>These foul ɡərls insist

>I comeback
>But only to suffer
>Suffer headaches and to Palmam ad faciem

>But yet again in here
>In here i am
>Reading this thread

>Pulling the never ending thread
>Days pass by
>Yet here I am

>Is it seclusion
>Or is it a safehaven
>Yet here I am

>But why does it feel like a prison
>Yet here I am
>As years pass by

Am I here yet?

[Anonymous No.11758645]

>>11756296
It's the fucking break in line 4, if 4 and 5 were merged it would be a terrible poem but it would be a poem, right now it's literally just a phrase with random breaks inserted. It's just so fucking jarring and there's no possible meaning behind it, except perhaps as an elaborate meta-commentary on the modern poetic form, but I really fucking doubt it because the ruse surely would have ended by now, no?

WHAT THE FUCK

>>11758344
Emily Dickinson was actually based desu. She didn't write that though.

>>11758335
ee wrote half genuine poems and half shitposts, he would have been a /lit/ poster desu

[Anonymous No.11758653]

>>11758645
you've not read ee, read his actuallites sonnets

[Anonymous No.11758671]

>>11758653
>actuallites sonnets
I searched this and didn't find anything with that name, what is it?

[Anonymous No.11758706]

>>11756380
I think it's harder than you're making it out to be unless your poems are all inane shit about love or le Drumpf, or at the very least you have some kind of angle you can play identity politics with. I tried the whole "instagram poet" thing myself and really didn't get any kind of traction whatsoever because no one gives a fuck about the actual poetry they just want to have a cutesy message delivered to them in a format that makes them feel smart and cultured.

If anyone has better ideas for publishing your stuff I'd love to here them, I just doubt there's much of an audience outside of places like /lit/.

[Anonymous No.11758714]

The
Engli
sh
Language
...
The game

[Anonymous No.11758717]

>>11758714
Brilliant capturing of how non-english speakers are forced to struggle through the language if they want to get anywhere in life

[Anonymous No.11758861]

>>11758671
uhh, look up a complete works
I think it's in the 1×1 section

[Anonymous No.11758898]

That's a poem. I could write a better one completely plastered. But that's modern society for you.

[Anonymous No.11758962]

>>11756325
w-w-whats wrong with p-prose?

[Anonymous No.11758981]

>>11756325
It's worth pointing out that you can create rhythm and musicality without following a strict meter or rhyme scheme It annoys me when people lump all free verse together, as if The Wasteland is at all comparable to OP's picture.

[Anonymous No.11759000]

>>11756280
>"instapoets"
Literally of no worth, and will not be remembered. The greats of today will be discovered in the future.

[Anonymous No.11759037]

[Anonymous No.11759067]

>>11756306
what is this meme? i love it

[Anonymous No.11759088]

>>11756306
https://youtu.be/l1hirM17l54?t=11m16s

[Anonymous No.11759107]

>>11756392
>top worm in a pile of shit that just keeps growing

[Anonymous No.11759115]

>>11756656
Amazing.
I
can now
Once
again
feel my
feelz.

[Anonymous No.11759123]

>>11757915
Post again
,
faggot.

[Anonymous No.11759154]

>>11758962
Nothing, except when it masquerades as poetry.