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/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 10:56:52 No.11738648 [Reply] [Original]

Post some reaction images or something I don't really care

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FANTASY
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Flowchart:
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SCIENCE FICTION
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
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>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:04:03 No.11738671 File: 299 KB, 500x800, monthly reading.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First! Have you started reading yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:04:16 No.11738672 >>11738648 what scifi stories include robots/cyborgs sexually conquering humans

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:15:30 No.11738718 File: 150 KB, 1024x1454, Soulcatcher_by_Mikey_Patch_(Irontree).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 3rd for waifu

Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:18:32 No.11738730
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>tfw no Amazon SF&F chart
>tfw can't discuss 85% of PKD with /lit/
>tfw more and more books I can't discuss with anyone
feels bad man

>>11738671
What is the book about?
>tfw ever-increasing backlog but plowing through it

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:19:06 No.11738732 File: 771 KB, 1024x1454, Slutcunter_by_Mikey_Balls_(irondick).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 5th for truth

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:19:45 No.11738736 >>11738672 The only book with human/robot sexuality that comes to mind is The Alchemy of Stone by Ekaterina Sedia.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:25:57 No.11738767 File: 970 KB, 853x1024, a21f213d666690296d7256be610d831a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11738718 >>11738732 Sorry lads, Amber is were the true waifus lie now.

Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:26:03 No.11738770

>>11738730
>What is the book about?
It's honestly quite unclear. It's about a huge gothic castle and it's inhabitants. I'll probably start it myself tomorrow, I'll just have to bring myself to finish the last 30 pages of the meme ass Lovecraft collection I'm currently reading first.

Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:29:12 No.11738788
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>>11738730
>>11738770
I have absolutely no idea of what the book is about myself, other than the faintest premise and that it's often praised. I'd love to dive right into it knowing little if nothing more.

I should be getting my copy sometime this week, if luck holds.

In the meantime, I'm writing again! Good pace, good start, plenty of enthusiasm and ideas, but it probably dies out before the first draft is complete. Maybe Gormenghast will help shape it further.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:31:16 No.11738795 What's some good super low gritty fantasy, like the chain of dogs in malazan or broken empire (but good), amoral bandits and mercanery companies where someone is wounded and dies of an infection and people are always losing limbs and being maimed etc

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:32:46 No.11738802 >>11738767 >Implying I'm not Dara a waifu poster as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:38:58 No.11738822 File: 1.19 MB, 853x1024, dumps of spamber.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11738767 Fixed.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:42:03 No.11738834 >>11738802 I'm not far enough to know who the red head is, but she is clearly a best. So far it's Flora

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:49:27 No.11738865 File: 94 KB, 500x321, 1525795846704.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11738822

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 12:40:19 No.11739031 File: 727 KB, 1365x2048, 40994231661_12c9cc5047_k.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11738767 Oh you disgusting little faggot. Don't you have some drawn slanty eyed school girl to worship over yonder on /a?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 12:45:38 No.11739056 >>11739031 That is far too much makeup.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 13:33:29 No.11739242 File: 20 KB, 350x241, stoneage.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any fantasy with a stone age setting?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 14:01:36 No.11739346 File: 178 KB, 318x471, 32337902.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11739242 The Legends of the First Empire by Michael J. Sullivan, it's faggy as fuck though.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 14:03:08 No.11739353 >>11739346 That doesn't look stone age...

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 14:05:04 No.11739360 >>11739056 she just fell down in the hummus machine

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 14:05:37 No.11739363 looking some experimental sci-fi

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 14:06:04 No.11739366 File: 227 KB, 276x422, 26863057.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11739353 Elves and Dwarves are in the Bronze age, Humans are stone age. That is a Dwarven port.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 14:12:08 No.11739389 >>11738795 Wagner's Kane series, Kane's so far down the antihero scale he's occasionally the flat out villain and the world is gritty enough to match

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 14:39:18 No.11739473 >>11739389 what's the first book, its hard to tell

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 14:46:59 No.11739499 >>11738730 What? PKD is reasonably popular around here. What is it you want to talk about?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 15:01:00 No.11739555 >>11739499 He's popular but people only talk about like 4 of his books let's be real. And he wrote a ton more, his short stories also go completely undiscussed.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 15:03:41 No.11739569 File: 66 KB, 340x632, galaxy_science_fiction_1952_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here OP have this vintage sci fi snap

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 15:06:40 No.11739584 Why can't people here go beyond the same 20 mainstream novels? Go and discover obscure authors. Read some forgotten pulp classics. Why read the same boring shit everyone else is reading?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 15:08:49 No.11739595 >>11739584 I'll read whatever catches my eye, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 15:14:28 No.11739629 Recommend me some good horror/thriller scifi books please.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 15:23:42 No.11739668 >>11739555 Do you have a specific short story or book you want to discuss?

Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 15:28:35 No.11739688
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>>11739473
the chronological order doesn't really matter in the Kane series, just read like two of the short stories just to get a feel for him and then read the three novellas (Bloodstone, Dark Crusade, Darkness Weaves)

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 15:41:29 No.11739739 >>11739629 Blindsight Blood Music Hull Zero Three Solaris

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 15:57:27 No.11739808 had an idea about a world where people who are cursed don't die and just rot in their bodies but then found out Dark Souls already did it. Sucks man

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 16:07:10 No.11739866 >>11739808 you should write it anyway, then call the it the dark souls of books and make millions

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 16:09:20 No.11739877 >>11739808 Don't worry about some video game having done it. Video games don't count. Planescape Torment did it before Dark Souls anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 16:13:13 No.11739892 >>11739866 >>11739877 thanks guys, you are right, migh as well try it

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 16:46:49 No.11740043 >>11739584 Mainstream means torrents or other free downloads, and availability from libraries. Meanwhile for more obscure authors I sometimes can't even buy their books on Kobo

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 16:51:42 No.11740076 >>11738671 Yes and I'm liking it a lot. I already know I'll be reading the other two books in the series and I'm only 70 pages in.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 16:54:09 No.11740096 File: 20 KB, 251x253, lopan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11740076 >only 70 pages in >70 pages in a couple days >only Well look at Mr. speedreader over here.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 16:59:54 No.11740124 File: 2.82 MB, 270x270, 1526928258266.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11740096

Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 17:01:50 No.11740133

>>11739584
Reading is a time consuming hobby. I've read about 200 SF&F books, most of them >mainstream, and it feel like I've hardly scratched the surface of mainstream SF&F. Hell, I've been reading selected books from /sffg/ for two years and I've yet to read Hyperion or Blindsight.

>Why read the same boring shit everyone else is reading?
With a more complete knowledge of the genre one can appreciate unique and original works better.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 17:03:00 No.11740140 >>11739242 Bonesetter. It is not fantasy, though, the author says re puts it into sci-fi, but in the past instead of the future. Don't really recommend it, though. It's kinda weak.

Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 17:15:07 No.11740196

>>11740133
Not that anon but I think quite a lot of posters here are avid readers of sci-fi and (ugh) fantasy.
It really gets tiring when this general starts beating on dead horses that most of us here have read and reread. Doubly so for whatever fantasy shitshow is currently popular.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 17:20:00 No.11740219 File: 6 KB, 300x168, 1532718136175.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11740196 >but I think quite a lot of posters here are avid readers of sci-fi and (ugh) fantasy. On the Sci-fi & Fantasy general?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 17:22:11 No.11740232 pls no bully but the one thing I like about GRRM and ASoIaF are the characters. Is there any other series that has a cast of mostly flawed assholes?

Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 17:23:14 No.11740233

>>11738834
The redhead is Fiona iirc but yah Flora was the most beautiful.

>>11739584
I do. But I bet no one here has read Views from the Oldest House or other Richard Grant books. One person mentioned reading Zod Wallop which I love but they didn't like it. I recommend Vurt but I think only one other person has posted about it. Etc.

At least Zelazny has been getting some attention here lately. One of his posthumous short story collections talked about how he was in danger of being forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 17:23:54 No.11740237 >>11740196 If it bother you that people read books that you have already read that is your problem. Learn to use the filter. >I think quite a lot of posters here are avid readers of sci-fi and (ugh) fantasy lel, really?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 17:24:53 No.11740246 >>11740232 WoT, although none of them admit it or come to terms with it and I don't think Jordan meant it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 17:25:17 No.11740248 File: 85 KB, 254x191, wolfecheers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11740233 Why settle for subpar garbage when you could just reread The Book of the New Sun for the umpteenth time?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 17:47:24 No.11740366 >>11739688 Ignore this advice and read ALL the short stories and only read the full blown novels if you end up liking Kane. The novels are nowhere near as good as the short stories.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 18:01:00 No.11740437 >>11740232 Malazan, kingkiller, black company, roken empire

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 18:03:24 No.11740452 >>11740437 Is this a demonstration that asshole main characters make for really shitty stories?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 18:04:17 No.11740456 What are some modern fantasy writers who actually know how to get to the fucking point? Every book I read these days could easily lose 2-300 pages with no ill effect. Are they even edited anymore?

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Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 18:15:01 No.11740498
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>>11740219
>>11740237
I know. This general is usually awash in a sea of fantasy poo, to quote Johnny Knoxville, but from time to time some kind anon surprise you with an excellent recommendation.
It's those rare moments that make coming here worthwhile.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 18:25:00 No.11740541 >>11740232 first law

Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 18:47:21 No.11740652
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Someone posted this in the previous general so I decided to binge read it because I was thirstin for strange alien object sci-fi

This book is atrociously bad. I cannot comprehend how it won an award. The real problem is that the awfulness of the book creeps up on you so you might feel compelled to finish it after you've invested some time into it.

Don't. I've never gone on here and straight up dumped on a book but this is horribly written it has awful prose and nonsensical characters and unless there's some subtle meta fuckery I didn't catch it is just beyond redemption.

Anon... how could you name drop this turd in our holy general? :[

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 19:14:01 No.11740774 >>11739031 How big is his penis?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 19:18:29 No.11740793 Why would anyone use audible? Shit is expensive.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 19:19:16 No.11740799 File: 1.42 MB, 1530x1505, HubbleDeepField.800px.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are 5 deeper questions you would want answered about any setting you're reading?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 19:20:08 No.11740803 Scifi is masculine, Fantasy is feminine. Change my mind?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 19:21:12 No.11740807 >>11740803 Survive the Somme and get back to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 19:29:42 No.11740843 >>11740803 its the opposite just look at all the genderbendy hyperdyke shit in new scifi

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 19:34:33 No.11740862 >>11740248 that book has been for too long in my backlog, I really should give it a try as soon as possible

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 19:34:49 No.11740866 >>11740793 Did you ever buy books before ebooks game out? In my country I paid what you paid for an audible book for a paper book. And that was years ago.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 19:43:30 No.11740892 Any reccomendations for scifi+magic or a magic system similar to computer programming?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 19:49:18 No.11740921 >>11740892 >or a magic system similar to computer programming? Jack Vance's Dying Earth

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 19:50:54 No.11740927 >>11740892 Literally the premise of The Scriptlings.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 19:53:49 No.11740941 File: 185 KB, 350x350, Venom_Snake_TTP.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >gavin guile loses part of a hand, loses an eye, wears an eye patch with a piece of black stone embedded in it and has been using someone else's identity for years

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 19:56:35 No.11740952 >>11740096 How slow do you read?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 19:58:35 No.11740960 >>11739242 Try reading M.A.R. Barker's novels set in Tekumel. Its effectively a stone age mayincatec setting.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 20:05:10 No.11740983 >>11739242 Clan of the cave bear?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 20:17:56 No.11741041 >>11740843 >FTL is possible but cloning some genitals isn't okay buddy.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 20:20:05 No.11741056 >>11738648 >Reading American Gods Someone fucking kill me, this book is BORING.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 20:21:19 No.11741061 >>11741056 >reading anything by Gayman >ever

Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 20:22:59 No.11741070

>>11741061
he fooled me when he said one of his favorite books was Swords of Lahnkmar. I thought he had taste; and at least talent but fuck damn all he talks about is scenery and never gets to the fucking point. I'm 3/4ths into American Gods and there is nothing fucking happening.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 20:31:00 No.11741108 >>11739499 >PKD is reasonably popular Yes brother I too enjoy discussing the same five of his most mainstream novels ad nauseum too!

Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 20:46:22 No.11741165

>>11740892
Vurt by Jeff Noon

>>11740248
I will give Wolfe a try sometime. Honestly tho, he's been shilled hard so it would be hard to love up to the hype. And from what I know about Botns themes and characters, i doubt it's something I'm going to love

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 20:55:24 No.11741209 >>11738671 I read the summary on wiki and it sounds incredibly boring. I guess I really am more the sci-fi type.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 21:08:45 No.11741289 >>11740232 Worm.

Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 21:28:15 No.11741367
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>>11740652

I wanted it to be good so bad. It has so many things that I can't really find

>ghost planet
>oh god they're all butchered
>generation ship that has lost any real sense of purpose to the abyss of time

But no, the climax literally revolves around nobody realizing that the woman they picked up who is the sole survivor of a world killed by mysterious aliens shouldn't know the name that they called her planet.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 21:29:06 No.11741370 >>11738767 Anything else with schemey family feuds and politics? don’t say asoiaf.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 21:29:14 No.11741372 >>11739242 I have that painting on the wall above my be at this very moment.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 21:51:18 No.11741450 I see Malazan recommended often in here, is it a meme? If it is, is it a good meme?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 21:59:01 No.11741480 File: 9 KB, 318x427, 5715023.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5715023-after-life http://sifter.org/~simon/AfterLife/ I read this a couple of years ago and though it was neat.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 22:09:06 No.11741531 >>11741450 If you're a retarded pleb who's easily impressed by good world-building and lots of action, but not much else then it's good.

Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 22:39:08 No.11741653

>>11741531
I'm mostly interested in it because some people told me that there are several different races and that they actually play an important part in the plot.
That's all I want, a series in which the different races are more than just background characters.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 22:42:14 No.11741672 >>11741653 Well it has a shit ton of different races and characters from those races so if that's all you're looking for then I would highly suggest Malazan.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 22:50:41 No.11741705 i have an idea for scifi with 2 opposing ancient orders for one of the main plot but im afraid it just would turn to another shitty star wars fanfic

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>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 23:33:33 No.11741895 File: 64 KB, 720x406, abercrombie.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11740456 Nah. Most aren't as bad as Abercrombie though, who took three books to tell what could have easily fit in one.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 23:38:09 No.11741922 >>11740941 Weeks gets dumped on here, but I really enjoyed the Lightbringer books.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 23:40:37 No.11741940 >>11741370 Hmmmmm...ok. How about A Game of Thrones.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 5, 2018 23:57:26 No.11741992 >>11741370 >family feuds chinese webnovels, literally all of them have that

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 00:17:39 No.11742037 >>11740799 I'm a lot more interested in character than world building. >>11739242 Shaman by Robinson is ice age. Idk if there's a lot of magic in it tho.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 00:32:34 No.11742076
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>>11741367
The book just falls apart pathetically after they land on Antioch. Every single plot point becomes silly nonsense. All the characters behave really crazy and the writing becomes elementary school fan fiction tier. I just couldn't believe what was goin on man

FATHER VERONICA!!! FATHER VERONICAAAA!!!

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 01:13:50 No.11742150 >>11741653 could just play world of warcraft. bfa is actually good

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 01:14:57 No.11742153
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Almost finished with this. My first Jack Vance story and it's been great so far. Strange to think there was a time when the Hugo Awards mattered and they actually gave them to good stories.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 01:18:53 No.11742162 >>11739242 A lot of Edgar Rice Burroughs is technically in a stone-age setting, though not set in the stone age.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 01:29:45 No.11742186 What are some good fantasy books/series with witches as the main characters? Spells, potion making, stealing children, you know, the whole business.

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>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 01:40:14 No.11742210 recommend me some good SF anthologies

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>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 01:54:47 No.11742243 >>11741450 its good

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 02:03:53 No.11742276 >>11739242 Closest I can remember is Adrian Tchaikovsky Echoes of the Fall trilogy, which is early bronze age. For the fantasy part it involves tribes based around animal totems and each tribesmen being able to shapeshift into their totem.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 02:07:49 No.11742291

>>11742153
Aaaand finished. Yep. This was excellent. I'm also pretty sure Bakker stole his idea for the Dûnyain from this story Larson stole his idea of aliens enslaving humans and genetically experimenting on them to turn them into various soldiers from this story as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 02:18:54 No.11742318 >>11741070 >I thought he had taste Gaiman have amazing taste. His praise is the reason I read BotNS in the first time. However, while I do enjoy Gaiman, great taste does not necessarily translate into great writing.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 04:03:17 No.11742518 Anyone know any good books with a decent cast of likeable characters? Like a tightly knit group or something. The Expanse managed to scratch this itch as i ended up liking the characters and actually giving a shit about what happened to them

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 04:05:32 No.11742521
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>>11742518
As far as I'm concerned, likeable main characters are the very core of the story, what runs it and what keeps the reader turning the pages. We want to see what happens to them next, first and foremost, what they do and what challenges they face. Everything else is gravy.

I wrote my own book largely with this principle in mind. Maybe it would scratch your itch.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 05:26:04 No.11742667 >tfw Peter Watts was right >tfw consciousness was a glitch >>>/pol/184738930

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 05:35:23 No.11742688 Just finished Roadside Picnic. First book i have read in a while, it was brilliant and only took me 4 hours to read. I really enjoyed it any recommendations off this? I just ordered Neuromancer.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 06:04:08 No.11742744 >>11742688 You could try Metro 2033, it's not as literary but the feeling of the book is similar. Or just read some other book by the Strugatskys, either Hard to Be a God or The Doomed City.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 07:04:57 No.11742869 >>11742518 >cast of likeable characters? Like a tightly knit group This was David Gemmell's speciality; especially for his Drenai series. Quest for Lost Heroes might be my personal favorite.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 07:36:41 No.11742923 >>11742150 good joke

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 07:42:11 No.11742938 Is Mark Lawrence good? Which series of his to read first? What about Sanderson? Is he a meme?

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 07:47:14 No.11742949
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What are you giant faggots reading?
>Caltraps of Time
>rereading Sengoku Youko

>>11742667
>another day in which literally retarded children flip shit over a study with n = 30
I heard about that last night. I wish 4chan wouldn't discuss things they know nothing about, like empirical articles.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 07:49:17 No.11742957 >>11742949 >What are you giant faggots reading? 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, while waiting for my copy of Titus Groan to be ready.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 07:50:29 No.11742960 >>11742949 Just finished For Whom the Bell Tolls, going to start Titus Groan tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 07:50:38 No.11742963 >>11742949 Gormenghast still. I'm kind of in a reading slump right now and find it hard to focus.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 08:52:03 No.11743156

Since GoT worked out really well for HBO, how come The Chronicles of Amber hasn't gotten an adaption yet?

>>11742949
Thinking of starting either Silmarillion or The Chronicles of Amber since it finally arrived yesterday. Gonna probably finish Silmarillion by the end of this week so I can enjoy Amber.

>>11742957
Is Verne good? I read him in primary school and don't remember much.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 08:53:02 No.11743161

>>11743156
>Since GoT worked out really well for HBO, how come The Chronicles of Amber hasn't gotten an adaption yet?
Not nearly hip or popular enough.

>Is Verne good? I read him in primary school and don't remember much.
I haven't read him in years either, before now, but it holds up pretty well. Still good.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 08:53:49 No.11743165 >>11743161 Nice, gonna revisit his works eventually.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 08:55:05 No.11743167

Someone recommended me the Vatta's War series which sounded cool in concept but already I can't stand the main character's pity party. Does anyone know if it gets better or can recommend me a series that primarily takes place on spaceships, with emphasis on (good) characters, and no aliens?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 08:56:19 No.11743171 >>11743167 Legend of the Galactic Heroes

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 08:58:15 No.11743177 >>11741370 Romance of the Three Kingdom

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 09:01:52 No.11743192 File: 39 KB, 640x480, 1534104571249.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11743171 Does it all really come back to lotgh? There has to be something else out there. Something must exist to fill the void.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 09:04:07 No.11743196
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>>11743192
Not really what you're looking for, but The Wire is the only show that came close to LOGH for me. Alternatively, you could go for shit like Romance of the Three Kingdoms or War and Peace, but I bet you already read those.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 09:09:14 No.11743211 >>11743196 Damn, well I'll take what I can get. I'm not usually too into tv, but I'll check out The Wire.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 09:10:17 No.11743214 >>11742938 He’s alright, Red Queens War. Haven’t read Sanderson.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 09:11:10 No.11743218 File: 330 KB, 700x375, cheerslad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11743211 Godspeed friend.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 09:11:46 No.11743220 >>11743156 The fat guy that made the Walking dead is making an Amber series I think. It’ll probably be shot though.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 09:11:57 No.11743224 >>11743192 >>11743196 >>11743218 wasnt there remastered lotgh version?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 09:15:05 No.11743234 >>11743224 You mean the remake? The designs suck and the voices can't compare to the originals. Maybe one of these days I'll watch it, but then, why bother when I can watch the superior version?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 09:28:26 No.11743268 So I've been getting /fit/ and like to listen to stuff while I'm working out. Can anyone recommend me a good fantasy audiobook series? Preferably without any feminist "GRRRRL power" crap.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 09:30:51 No.11743273 >>11743220 >>11743161 >>11743156 The Amber tv series was mentioned 2 years ago but I haven't heard anything since.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 09:54:49 No.11743353 >>11743273 They're just working really really hard on it, it's going to be a flawless work of art. >>11743268 Chronicles of Amber

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 10:42:22 No.11743508 >>11741370 Dune has a bit of that but you have probably read it already.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 10:48:19 No.11743517 >>11742949 >What are you giant faggots reading? Colour of Magic, it's a light and fun read and I think I'll keep a couple of books from the series around as a change of pace after more difficult books.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 11:03:14 No.11743561 >>11742949 Babel-17 and Amber. Probably gonna start Titus Groan after these.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 11:12:21 No.11743588 >reading more than one series at a time How do they do it?

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 11:23:33 No.11743628

>>11743220
>>11743273
I don't want to see it get made because it would most likely suck.

>>11743224
There was a rework but I didn't watch it because I didn't like the art design, felt too shoujoish, and what I heard from a friend wasn't all that flattering. I'd rather rewatch the My Conquest Is the Sea of Stars movie + the OVA, then read the books.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 13:08:26 No.11744044 >>11742518 Read the Vorkosigan saga.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 13:22:23 No.11744101 File: 372 KB, 1038x1600, fac87172aced1f5ff3c013b8aef860b0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Neat little novel. One of the earliest to deal with themes of simulated reality. Prose is surprisingly good at times.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 13:32:54 No.11744148 Should I read the Xeelee sequence?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 13:45:02 No.11744205 File: 166 KB, 537x810, perdido-st-station-web.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That scene with the devil made me lol. It's so silly but so fitting at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 15:55:08 No.11744753 File: 66 KB, 750x500, mb02_symbols-webres.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11744148 Read Vacuum Diagrams, Timelike Infinity, and Ring, then talk about them with me.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 16:22:56 No.11744871 File: 275 KB, 1920x1080, Ken-Folletts-The-Pillars-of-the-Earth_20170823185113.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is everyone reading? I'm reading The Pillars of the Earth. And it's pretty good. But not really Sci-Fi or fantasy.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 16:36:48 No.11744928
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>>11744871
I ain't readin' dem fancy books boy.
I am playing Wasteland 2 fer some of those apocatalytic feels. The books I did try to read - those were about as bad as all this fag fantasy. That ain't no literature fer a self respecting man.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 16:42:43 No.11744955 >>11744928 What are you in this thread for?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 16:48:51 No.11744985 A Song of Ice and Fire is good

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 17:02:23 No.11745025 >>11744985 It's good up until Storm of Swords - even great at times - but it takes a real nosedive after that. I'm still going to read the rest of the story... if it ever comes out at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 17:19:30 No.11745081 Stannis is Agamemnon. The three eyed raven is tiresias.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 17:25:24 No.11745098 >>11745081 Who's Achilles?

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 17:29:17 No.11745114

>>11745098
No ASOIAF character resembles the Achilles of the iliad. Don't know about the other stories. In any case, you can rest assured that there is no single ASOIAF character or plot line that isn't borrowed from history and myth or classic sffg novels.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 17:35:49 No.11745143 >>11744871 I stopped reading PotE at half the book. Too freaking long.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 17:38:35 No.11745152 File: 43 KB, 736x552, 1535674716070.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11744955 Don't get passive-aggressive on me boy. I am here for science-fiction.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 17:43:58 No.11745187 >>11745081 Daenarys is Aeneas

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 17:46:37 No.11745195 >>11742186 discworld

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 17:50:51 No.11745217 >>11745195 Not much in stealing children, though.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:24:39 No.11745351
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>reading Kingkiller Chronicle
>thought it was weird how it suddenly turned to Not Harry Potter once Kvothe reaches the school
>was ok, still enjoyed it
>second book even better
>getting hyped after they fight the bandits
>can't wait for Kvothe to go back to the Mayer for his reward
>lol nope
>he fucks off into the forest
>nonstop chapters describing how hot Felurian is and how Kvothe is the best lover ever
>finally over after several chapters
>ok, back to the Mayer now
>nope, he goes to learn martial arts in the mountains
>book is getting tedious now
>literally skip every chapter in the mountains
>finally, back to the Mayer now
>another fucking sidequest involving the fake Edema Ruh
>Kvothe becomes Shadow the Hedgehog and murders a bunch of people with his sword
>stop reading

what the fuck happened

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:26:46 No.11745358 File: 64 KB, 600x595, 1528396612183.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11745351 >reading more than 10% of kingkiller

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:26:58 No.11745360 >>11745195 Thanks friend, I'll look into this one.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:29:09 No.11745374 File: 65 KB, 1412x274, kingkiller.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11745351

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:30:51 No.11745382 File: 70 KB, 1200x630, 26-patrick-rothfuss-feed.w600.h315.2x.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] "Woe is me, I'm living off two shitty but successful books I've made, lets playing, and going to conventions. I'm so sad :("

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:31:24 No.11745387 >>11745351 >what the fuck happened You got memed son

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:32:04 No.11745389 File: 55 KB, 620x889, bunny thinking.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11745374 I suddenly realize I may have neglected doing my research for a similar scene of my own. Drat.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:33:15 No.11745397 File: 898 KB, 1800x3285, pratchett reading order.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11745360

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:34:09 No.11745400 File: 102 KB, 500x677, bunny thinking 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11745374 I suddenly realize I may have neglected doing my research for a similar scene of my own. Oh well, they can still use his mouth.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:34:47 No.11745405 >>11745374 >username https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTIn

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:34:55 No.11745406 How much longer do we need to put up with the avataring rabbitfag?

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:37:55 No.11745417

>>11745382
Money might be able to eliminate sources of unhappiness but it cannot make one happy itself.

Consider Notch of Minecraft fame: He stole the idea from the Zachtronics guy, made a ton of money, then sold his company for another ton of money to Microsoft. He bought a mansion in LA and now sits in it alone and depressed, with only the ants eating the large bins of candy he had installed for company.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:38:47 No.11745421 >>11745382 Does Rothfuss actually do let's plays? Any good ones?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:41:45 No.11745433 Just about to start Sufficiently Advance Magic, anyone here read it? Is it fun?

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:42:07 No.11745435
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Outside of Ken Liu, Michelle Sagara, and Liu Cixin, who are the best east asian descended SFF writers? Are there any good fantasy novels that take place in classical Korea?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:43:28 No.11745441 >>11745433 Read it and find out.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 18:47:44 No.11745455 >>11745114 How many books out there aren’t like that, though?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 19:28:11 No.11745597 >>11744148 If you like abstract hard science with far future speculation then sure

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 19:48:32 No.11745689
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How do you feel about Lyonesse?
I just finished Suldrun's Garden, which is the only Jack Vance thing I have ever read. I was hoping faeries, trolls and such played a bigger part and some chapters were a bit dull but overall I quite enjoyed it, will definitively continue with the next one in the trilogy.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 19:51:04 No.11745704 >>11745689 The next installment will deliver what you want. The trilogy is my fav fantasy.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 19:54:19 No.11745717

Why is Blindopraxia considered hard sci-fi? Particularly in the second book there's all sorts of handwaved nonsense like the entirety of how Portia is supposed to work and how being really smart apparently lets you remote-control tornadoes and reprogram people's brains with tongue clicks.

The way Theseus gets energy from the Icarus array doesn't make sense. Fabbers are inches away from being full blown Star Trek replicators with some lip service to make them seem plausible, and are used for the exact same purposes. The crucifix glitch doesn't make sense. The entire concept of sentience that is expounded upon strikes me as Watts' arbitrary definition that lets the rest of his premise work out. Basically the only thing in the books that I can see fairly considered as hard sci-fi is the biology not related to neurology (which makes sense since Watts' actual field is biology), which is precious little

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 19:58:51 No.11745733 >>11745717 Because the meaning of "hard" has devolved into "good". I've seen people call the Culture series "hard sci-fi," the apparent reason being because they happen to like it.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 19:59:22 No.11745735

>>11745717
Also, I know that most of those have citations, but the problem is that the citations do not actually support what Watts is claiming. He pulled off the same shit with the psychic powers in Rifters, which he at least admitted were bullshit later on

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 20:02:23 No.11745749 >>11741922 The series has its flaws, but the overarching plot is interesting and does a good job of making you wonder who you really should be rooting for without having all the characters act schizophrenic or going full grimhurr.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 20:02:58 No.11745756
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>>11745455
Asoiaf takes it to another new level though. GRRM just outright copy-pastes things. Not saying he's bad though; he's actually quite good at this. Maybe this is one reason his characters are so iconic. They are replicas of the same figures that have intrigued human imagination for centuries.

>>11745689
It's pretty bad imo. Speaking of GRRM copy-pasting, see pic related.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 20:08:49 No.11745782 >>11745717 Before we proceed what the fuck do you consider "hard" sci-fi? Especially for a novel using themes such as nature of conscious which we still know shit all. The man has done his research on top of writing a good novel.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 20:16:38 No.11745820 >>11740960 Thanks for that post anon. Many years ago I read something about that south american middle earth opus but I completely forgot the names of author and world. Has been bugging me on and off for years.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 20:24:22 No.11745857 >>11745435 Ted Chiang is pretty kickass.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 20:32:00 No.11745904

>>11745782
Greg Egan, for one. The most iconic recent author who I consider really hard would be Andy Weir, as much as I didn't like The Martian. Clarke is generally internally consistent and clear with which parts are rooted in actual science and which are not, while still averaging harder than Watts.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 20:44:05 No.11745964 >>11745717 >The crucifix glitch doesn't make sense Why not

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 20:49:20 No.11745982 File: 96 KB, 775x1170, cknsw4463xi11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hit me with your spoopy/strange science fiction /sffg/. I want that sense of mystery and wonder from foreign environments like Rama and the torus in Blindsight

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 20:49:22 No.11745983 >>11740843 you're right you know

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 20:51:10 No.11745994 >>11745689 I didn't enjoy it as much as I was hoping from other Vance I've read, at least until book 3 which I enjoyed immensely.

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Thu, Sep 6, 2018 20:51:44 No.11745997

>>11745756
>GRRM just outright copy-pastes things. Not saying he's bad though; he's actually quite good at this. Maybe this is one reason his characters are so iconic. They are replicas of the same figures that have intrigued human imagination for centuries.
Please name a single character who is "iconic" where iconic isn't remapped to mean "I saw this on TV and so did everyone I know so now I can point to this trope and everyone else understands me without internal monologue".

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 20:54:47 No.11746006 >>11745435 Ted Chiang is one of my favorite writers and Story Of Your Life is possibly my favorite short story. I haven't read it myself because it's probably too dark but The Poppy War by Kuang is getting good reviews.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 20:55:05 No.11746008 >>11745382 He's butthurt over our President.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 20:56:21 No.11746012 >>11746008 Nevermind his faults, at least he triggers the libs!

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 21:05:29 No.11746035

>"kill these guys at this location"
>"nah i'd rather send my murder bot out to do that for me, thanks. why would i risk myself?"

>"oh nooooo if the bad guys catch you, you're gonna die!"
>"probably not since i've forked the software for my consciousness into several billion servers around the world and onto satellites in outer space. if i die, i'll just fork my mind into a new body."

>"why not go to the gym and work out your frustrations?"
>"no thanks i have the basic bodymod that obviates working out because i have mechanical muscles now"

transhuman worlds are worlds unprecedented ennui and retardation. there's no reason, EVER, to do ANYTHING other than SIT AT HOME, WANK OFF AND HAVE A MENTAL BREAKDOWN

EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM IN A TRANSHUMAN UNIVERSE COMES DOWN TO THIS QUESTION: "DO I HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO BE ABLE TO GET AROUND THIS PROBLEM?"

>holy shit i have to make it to the other side of the world in 1 minute to stop this explosion that will happen otherwise
"do i have enough money to fork my mind into another body on the other side of the world?"

>no, it cant be! the virus will destroy everything in 2 seconds!
"did i buy the super hacking augment with my money?"

>she won't fall in love with me :(
"did i buy the super phero sex augment? (or if i don't want to be detected did i buy the undetectable one)"

>i can't convince these people to join my side :(
"did i buy the super phero social augment? (or if i don't want to be detected did i buy the undetectable one)?"

THERE'S ONLY ONE WRITING SOLUTION TO GET AROUND THIS: "ooooh but my character can't afford that stuff so i guess we gotta do it the hard way ;)"

OH, HE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO IT?!

MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SO FUCKING BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AT LEAST IN LOW OR NO-MAGIC FANTASY THERE'S ACTUAL CONSIDERATIONS OF TIME AND WHAT'S PLAUSIBLE.

PROVE ME WRONG YOU FUCKING CANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 21:07:31 No.11746040 >>11745081 Which would make The Seven Kingdoms Helen and the Lannisters Paris which makes no sense at all.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 21:07:40 No.11746043

>>11745964
It just has no tangible basis or explanation as to its origin beyond "vampires have big visual cortexes therefore seizures from right angles", while having a HELL of a lot about the specific conditions under which it triggers

Watts is clearly very fond of his vampires. If you read his blog, he even recently mentions that he's tried to get a book entirely about the fictional evolution of vampires before but all the publishers he's talked to tell him to fuck off. He has an incredibly long slideshow about the discovery of vampires up in his website, framed as an actual in-universe FizerPharm conference. Even if you don't know his website, the paragraph upon paragraph of infodumping about vampires in Blindsight should be enough. But the vampires are a cool idea he really, really wanted to include in his book first, satirical social commentary second, a plot device third, and an actual realistic concept with scientific basis dead last

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 21:08:30 No.11746050 >>11743353 >>11743628 I want the Amber tv series to be set in the '70s when the books were written. But I do want it made so that Zelazny's books get a revival. He and Lloyd Alexander are my favorite writers and huge influences on my writing.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 21:12:43 No.11746059 >>11746035 You forgot to take your pills again.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 21:14:36 No.11746064

>>11746043
I read Blindsight and Echopraxia a long time ago so I don't remember all the deets but I recall liking that he actually tried to explain the reasons vampires hate crosses in some way. If blinking lights can trigger seizures in some people, why not certain shapes in your vision? Visual reflex seizures can be triggered by brightness, certain patterns, frequencies, and colors.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 21:16:14 No.11746072 >>11745417 you've said this before in these threads, do you know these ants personally? very suspicious. i think they're bringing his candy to you

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 21:21:20 No.11746107

>>11746043
>But the vampires are a cool idea he really, really wanted to include in his book first, satirical social commentary second, a plot device third, and an actual realistic concept with scientific basis dead last

that's every other contrived thing in Blindsight and that's why i dropped that piece of shit

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 21:29:23 No.11746143 >>11746107 t. self-aware monkey that can't handle the bantz

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 21:35:38 No.11746165 >>11746143 t. lover of contrivance and shit that would never happen

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 21:48:40 No.11746199

>>11745904
I don't get why Watts is irking you for his spin on the consciousness while Greg Egan (taking his Permutation City for an example) is based on something as fanciful as a universal computer simulation and the premise that the consciousness is Turing complete. Not to mention the techonomagical "cloud computing" which ignores latency and coherency problems (something that Freeze Frame Revolution does not).
Andy Weir (and I did like The Martian) and Clark deal with areas that we know much more about but even then they are forced to take some liberties. The Martian never mentioned how were the astronauts able to avoid the effects of prolonged space flight on their musculoskeletal system, Clark never explained how the Monolith influenced the hominids (while I am harping about consciousness), the list goes on.
The Theseus is a product of an accelerated research and development program by a bunch of idiot-savant AI's who are so far out there their findings have to be "flattened" by specially trained freaks to be usable. If the tech is almost magical, you gotta admit the reason is pretty cool.
The rest of the mind fuckery (both figurative and literal) in Blindopraxia is grounded in scientific findings, as there are quite a lot of "let's see what happens when we expose the brain to ultrasound, infrasound, powerful magnetic fields and good ol' chemical compounds that pass the blood brain barrier" studies. The effects might have been overstated but it's for the good of The Story. If you are not interested in The Story but citations you would be better off picking up something like Thomas Metzinger's Being No One.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 21:50:35 No.11746207 >>11746050 It wouldn't last very long, the first book would be 3 episodes max.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 21:57:56 No.11746238 >>11746043 >Watts is clearly very fond of his vampires And zombies. Posters like you harp about vampires but always forget about zombies.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 21:58:26 No.11746244

>>11746199
What irked me about Watts' take on sentience is not that it was wrong or unrealistic whether it actually was those things or not, it's that it was circular. Like, by any definition used by people other than Watts Rorschach is sentient, if alien and superhumanly intelligent. That already tears down most of the book's premise. You could make the argument that the *Scramblers* aren't, at most.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 21:58:46 No.11746246 File: 32 KB, 400x251, Giant Ant.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11746072 shit he's onto us boys

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 22:06:36 No.11746271 >>11746072 Got 'em >>/lit/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=notch+ants

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 22:07:27 No.11746277

>>11746238
I had no fucking idea what was going on with the zombies. I get that they're a reference to the concept of p-zombies, but the way I understood them their brains and nervous system are augmented to skip conscious thought while the switch is on. And then Bruks finds out they can talk and answer questions about themselves. That fits with actual p-zombies, but how does it work with the actual zombies in the book?

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 22:13:26 No.11746300

>>11746238
no one cares about the zombies because there's less hoops to jump through

the vampires are more offensively contrived because they:
- are cannibals
- are pale
- have big canines
- react badly to crucifixes
- sleep for long stretches of time in secluded places
- have superior healing

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 22:18:19 No.11746319 >bro the vampires lost the ability to produce protocadherin y so they have to eat humans this makes sense i have a phd bro TRUST ME

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 22:21:00 No.11746332 File: 29 KB, 616x424, zzzzzd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11746043 Excuse me? In Tor.com's "That was Awesome!" series, they told me that Sarasti is a "Credible Creature". I'm sorry, but it looks like you're getting BTFO.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 22:21:42 No.11746337 Of all the stupid fucking bullshit to argue about...

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 22:34:07 No.11746371

>>11746244
You got it all wrong. The Scramblers are intelligent but not conscious. They have no awareness of self, no identity. This is one of the main themes of the novels. And Rorschach is just a vessel, crewed by Scramblers. The difference here is that Rorschach's life support systems are rather different.

>>11746277
I think it's again a case of intelligence without consciousness. They are intelligent, they can talk and reason and they are not just a bundle of murderous reflexes. But the consciousness is in some far away place. That's actually a selling point.

>>11746300
Have you actually read the book? About the evolution of a nightly (hence pale) predatory (hence the wolf teeth) subspecies (cannibalism being a pretty standard ecological interaction) with low density target population (hence hibernation) and bad wiring up there in the noggin (so that they can't watch Pokemon intros or they would start foaming at the mouth). Compared to the usual genetically modified baddies one encounters in bad sci-fi, Watts'es vampires are hard as diamonds as far as science goes and 100% natural.
If seems that the very idea of them is offensive for you in which case tough shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 22:36:39 No.11746381 >>11742200 well played anon, well played.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 22:46:42 No.11746417

>>11746371
>Have you actually read the book? About the evolution of a nightly (hence pale) predatory (hence the wolf teeth) subspecies (cannibalism being a pretty standard ecological interaction) with low density target population (hence hibernation) and bad wiring up there in the noggin (so that they can't watch Pokemon intros or they would start foaming at the mouth). Compared to the usual genetically modified baddies one encounters in bad sci-fi, Watts'es vampires are hard as diamonds as far as science goes and 100% natural.
>If seems that the very idea of them is offensive for you in which case tough shit.

i said "contrived"

i never said the author didn't justify himself extensively. i said that you can essentially see the author's greasy cheetos fingerprints all over it and it pulls me out of the story because something arose that JUST SO HAPPENS to do this thing and that thing and this other thing

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 22:47:55 No.11746426
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>The bloody light of Reddawn spilled across the morning landscape. Lurid shadows, black against red, stretched away from gaunt trees limned against the sky, and incicles flamed crimson as they caught the dim light. Overhead, aurorae pulsated, dim with the coming dawn but still visible.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 22:54:43 No.11746452 >>11746426 Is that the Eye of Argon?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 22:57:58 No.11746465 File: 222 KB, 715x433, asdasdasd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11746452

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 23:02:10 No.11746483

>>11746417
So drop the book. I don't understand why are you getting so worked up. The author offered a consistent and interesting premise which did not meet your expectations. There's nothing more to talk about.
I find the crucifix glitch less surprising cause for extinction compared to laziness - https://www.livescience.com/63308-homo-erectus-laziness-extinction.html.. If this somehow found it's way in the novel you would be foaming at the mouth from rage.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 23:03:12 No.11746486 >>11746465 protip: literary awards rarely are anything other than circlejerks.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 23:04:30 No.11746492 >>11746483 >So drop the book. I don't understand why are you getting so worked up. The author offered a consistent and interesting premise which did not meet your expectations. There's nothing more to talk about. ah bloo bloo i already did

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 23:07:02 No.11746500

>>11746371
Again, by any definition not penned by Watts, someone in the relationship between the Scramblers and Rorschach has to be sentient. Maybe they don't have identity or consciousness in the way we do, but at worst you can say that it acts EXACTLY as if it was self-aware and intelligent, but somehow isn't. It's definitely capable of analyzing, precisely emulating and altering subjective experience (as shown by its constant tampering of the crew's brains and Portia). The difference between that and actual "understanding" is semantics.

Further, the Chinese Room argument which he repeatedly brings up in Blindsight was originally a thought experiment about AI. The setting has hard AI, and the debate of their sentience is still ongoing in-universe. The fucking protagonist calls himself a Chinese Room, and he's definitely sentient. Rorschach is at least as sentient as a hard AI and maybe slightly less so than Siri Keeton, or Sarasti, for that matter (if we assume that he is still a "real" vampire in some level and not just a puppet to the Captain). Even if Rorschach, the Scramblers as a group or individual Scramblers are not capable of subjective experience, all indicates to the system they compose being capable of it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 23:08:39 No.11746511 >>11746426 >lurid >limned >crimson they went there

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 23:14:16 No.11746527 >>11746035 you can also write and respect limits to the technology, you know...

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 23:15:28 No.11746535 >>11746426 >incicles

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 23:22:04 No.11746568 >>11746035 Yikes

Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 23:32:54 No.11746620
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>>11746426
>Did you ever read what they call Science Fiction? It's a scream. It is written like this: "I checked out with K19 on Adabaran III, and stepped out through the crummaliote hatch on my 22 Model Sirus Hardtop. I cocked the timejector in secondary and waded through the bright blue manda grass. My breath froze into pink pretzels. I flicked on the heat bars and the Bryllis ran swiftly on five legs using their other two to send out crylon vibrations. The pressure was almost unbearable, but I caught the range on my wrist computer through the transparent cysicites. I pressed the trigger. The thin violet glow was ice-cold against the rust-colored mountains. The Bryllis shrank to half an inch long and I worked fast stepping on them with the poltex. But it wasn't enough. The sudden brightness swung me around and the Fourth Moon had already risen. I had exactly four seconds to hot up the disintegrator and Google had told me it wasn't enough. He was right."

>They pay brisk money for this crap?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 6, 2018 23:41:00 No.11746647 >>11746620 >and Google had told me it wasn't enough. He was right." Fucking time travelers

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 00:04:06 No.11746698 >>11746647 You guys have never steered me wrong, just finished reading Abercrombie's books, what should I read next?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 00:05:15 No.11746703 >>11746698 >You guys have never steered me wrong Time for you to read Sanderson then

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 00:27:51 No.11746760

>>11746207
That's fine tho. What I don't want is for them to extend it to 9 seasons by delaying the conclusion with added new material and characters with a single mention in the books getting backstories and arcs. (Like what happened in the second Amber series.)
Make a miniseries with 12 episodes and then it's done.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 00:37:12 No.11746795 >>11746035 Based

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 00:56:06 No.11746860 File: 28 KB, 524x336, feh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >hard sci-fi

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 01:02:52 No.11746875 >>11746703 Mistborn, stormlight, read them all. Sanderson made WoT readable at the end. Any other recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 01:15:21 No.11746898 >>11746703 Incidentally, Sanderson is my favorite author.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 01:17:09 No.11746901 >>11746875 Read The Black Company

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 01:24:45 No.11746916 >>11746860 Pleb

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 01:33:08 No.11746937 >>11746860 Tell me what your problem with it is and I'll find you something in the genre that lacks it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 01:35:17 No.11746941 well i just got blackpilled off this JRE / Elon podcast someone recommend me something that has nothing to do with evil AI

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 01:42:54 No.11746955
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>get dick cut off with rusty knife, have it shoved down your throat and bleed out
>get resurrected the following day remembering every second of it like it happened moments ago

heh this series is alright

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 02:19:03 No.11747036 Why is every fantasy series these days always jumping between dozens of characters and constantly switching POV? Is the art of writing a fantasy story focusing on a single character dead because everyone wants to make the next Game of Thrones?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 02:40:28 No.11747100 >>11747036 >these days That shit started with LOTR and became even worse with ASOIAF. Also you're reading epic fantasy. If you're tired of that shit move on to vastly superior fantasy genres like heroic fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 03:41:38 No.11747230 >>11745820 Glad I could help, I suffered from that exact same problem for a few years until the Choice of... series got me caught up.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 03:46:50 No.11747234

>>11745997
There's this problem of people thinking that something being popular in the modern world immediately translates to it being bad. Achilles, Agamemnon, Antigone, and Aeneas, these figures had captivated and awed the plebs for hundreds of years, yet no one would venture to dismiss them because they once were popular with the uncultured.
Popular doesn't always equal bad.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 04:05:43 No.11747265 >>11745982 >I want that sense of mystery and wonder from foreign environments Midworld by Alan Dean Foster maybe? The description of life in the atmosphere of a gas giant in "The Algebraist" by iain M. Banks are also pretty great.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 04:11:51 No.11747278 >>11745982 The Straggler's Mask is set on a moon hovering around a gas giant, and gets some weird weather patterns and seasons out of this. It's still pretty soft and mostly fantasy, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 04:17:53 No.11747287 >>11747278 i swear to god juho...

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 04:26:36 No.11747301
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>>11747287
When YOU finally publish that fantasy novel you've been working on for years and are really proud of, you too can shill it however much you want and I won't complain one bit.

Hey, somebody bought one yesterday! Business is booming.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 05:34:07 No.11747417

>>11746500
It's not semantics. Is it so hard to accept that an alien species can act intelligently while not being self-aware? That even without an ego, intelligence can act in order to satisfy it's needs and solve practical problems. Everything related to the Chinese Room is the consequence of them not being self aware. They are more than intelligent enough to break down the functioning of a language of a conscious species (aka us) but they do not understand it as semantics is completely beyond them.
The premise of Scramblers is that without all that consciousness cruft, they are far more intelligent. That indeed consciousness is a costly computational aberration compared to more focused and efficient non-sentient species. It's dark and pessimistic in that patented Watts manner.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 06:43:25 No.11747543
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>>11746043
It triggers a seizure. It's not just flashing lights IRL, a bunch of shit fucks people's shit. It's not outside of possibility to have a tribe that has the same epileptic tendency, a tendency with a specific triggering mechanism (right-angles isn't the most outlandish sounding one either, a tone would also work).

I agree Watts isn't Egan, but it's not Space Opera either. It fits in the niche as like eight notches harder than Liu and twelve notches from Egan.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 07:28:24 No.11747625 Just finished The Emperor's Blades and working on Providence of Fire now. Really like the Kettral as a unit. Also really liked Hull's Trial.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 09:30:30 No.11747939 >>11746417 >because something arose that JUST SO HAPPENS to do this thing and that thing and this other thing So literally every scifi book in the existence. Maybe you should stick to fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 10:00:00 No.11748044 >>11747625 >female special forces

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 10:43:28 No.11748246 >>11747100 Who writes heroic fantasy these days? I've already read Conan, Elric, Gay Mouser and the other memes

>>	Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Fri, Sep 7, 2018 10:43:33 No.11748247 >>11747234 >invents a strawman to argue with out of whole cloth Okay but I'm still waiting for an iconic character created by GURM.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 10:45:05 No.11748254 >>11748247 Cersei

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 10:45:09 No.11748255
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Any chance one of you could help me remember the title of this novel series?

The premise is that a small team of people is chosen to be copied into machine bodies, and identical versions of the team sent on numerous slower than light ships to investigate nearby stars. The book follows one team member, and the world his ship arrives on is visited by silent but benevolent aliens who construct several towers, each containing a gift, including a transparent spacesuit and a small faster than light ship. Shortly after, the entire planet is destroyed by starfish-shaped alien ships. Protagonist barely escapes in the tiny ship and heads for earth.

At earth he finds humanity has turned most of the solar system into a megastructure and most people exist as hive minds of many copies of their individual bodies. After making contact with one of the bodies belonging to the original of one of his team members, he learns he is the only copy of his original that didn't go insane and die.

It's revealed the starfish ships are following the benevolent aliens and destroying any civilization they contact, which now includes earth thanks to the protagonist's ship. The protagonist and his team mate's original barely escape the destruction of the solar system in the FTL ship and embark on a quest to find out who the starfish ships are and why they do what they do.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 10:46:44 No.11748259 File: 240 KB, 1400x2128, 71rFZYDTvUL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11748246 Son of the Black Sword is pretty good. Sequel's coming out soon.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 10:46:53 No.11748260 File: 79 KB, 322x322, bunny gun.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11748246 I love heroic fantasy, write heroic fantasy even at this moment, and published heroic fantasy a couple months ago.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 10:49:53 No.11748278 File: 263 KB, 600x900, stop.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11748260 Stop avatarfagging.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 10:52:23 No.11748295
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>>11748278
I'll stop once the waifufag stops posting Soulcatcher, the guy posting gym women stops dissing fantasy, the fruitcake guy makes a thread, Brandon Sanderson is no longer brought up, or you throw me into that briar patch.

>>	Thiskillsthedarkelf Fri, Sep 7, 2018 10:52:38 No.11748298 >>11746955 That sounds pretty cool.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 10:52:50 No.11748300 >>11746955 >heh this series is alright >a litrpg saga I wish I could agree with you. It may even have some interesting plot, I don't know. But I just can't bring myself to read about leveling up.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 10:54:18 No.11748305 >>11748295 throws you into the tar pit

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:02:49 No.11748347 >>11748295 >the guy posting gym women The least you could do if you are going to avatarfaggot is do it like him. Maybe post some girls in bunnysuit, huh?

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:03:13 No.11748350
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Can someone recommend a book/series with a cute aryan tomboy female protagonist who is occasionally put in compromising positions and has to wear revealing clothing? Thanks

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:06:19 No.11748360 >>11748350 The Steel Remains

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:06:50 No.11748362 I punch my pet rabbits everytime he posts.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:07:37 No.11748367 >>11748350 She looks like Vivec.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:08:01 No.11748368 File: 224 KB, 665x1024, Lori.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11748347 Fair enough.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:09:00 No.11748372 >>11748347 You moran

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:16:32 No.11748401
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>>11748368
I meant it more along these lines. But if you rather post cartoons, I think there's much better ones around, dude.

You have no idea how hard it is to find regular bunnysuit that is not asian or anime on the web. WTF, what's with japan's obsession with it?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:18:28 No.11748411 >>11748360 >Protagonist is a fag No thanks.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:19:34 No.11748412
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>>11748401
I know, right? You'd think that with Playboy and everything, we'd all have a thing for bunny girls. But apparently the east overtook us at some point, by some bizarre and esoteric fetishistic sorcery or some shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:19:42 No.11748413 >>11748401 Look at her dead eyes.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:22:03 No.11748424 >>11748411 Should be a good fit for you tho

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:23:42 No.11748430 >>11748347 >>11748368 >>11748401 >>11748412 At least pretend your pics/comments have something to do with the topic. This isn't a random tit-posting board.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:24:36 No.11748433
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>>11748367
Who’s that?
>>11748360
Thanks, are there several main characters? First character mentioned in the plot synopsis is a guy. How prominent is the female protagonist?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:25:41 No.11748439 >>11748430 >acting like this is your own fiefdom This isn’t redd*t, kiddo

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:27:43 No.11748450

>>11748430
I can look up some fantasy bunny girls for the next time.

Really, though, I try to keep the avatarfagging at a minimum - only when my identity's relevant, like when I shill my book and don't want you to think that someone else might have actually read it - and it's gotten a bit out of hand at this time. I'll stop now.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:28:52 No.11748455 File: 901 KB, 1365x2048, 9682106290_0c9dec31a0_k.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11748368 >>11748401 The fuck?

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:31:25 No.11748466
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>>11748430
Relax dude, it's not like we'll hit the datacap and run out of threads. But since you asked,

I am reading The Pride of Chanur right now, and it's fucking boring. I never thought I'd say this, but I wish this book had more POVs. The main catgirl (fucking furries should just kill themselves t.b.h) is not at all bad, but there's so much more that could be explored on the ship but all we view is her. The relationship of the human and the crew could be much better explored. I am not sure I'll finish this book, at least not any time soon.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:39:45 No.11748506

>>11748439
It was a gentle reminder friend.
>>11748466
>but I wish this book had more POVs
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>The relationship of the human and the crew could be much better explored.
That would fight against the entire point of making him seem alien to them.
>I am not sure I'll finish this book, at least not any time soon
Well, it's pretty short, and ties things up such that you'll be fine not reading any sequels.

Also, how dare you!?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:43:59 No.11748527 >>11748506 >That would fight against the entire point of making him seem alien to them. You can explore relationship without humanizing everyone involved.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:50:05 No.11748551
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>>11748506
>That would fight against the entire point of making him seem alien to them.
I don't think so. So far, he's just background noise. He could become more alien by actually showing contrast with the crew, not by fading on the background. I am not even talking about adding him as a POV, but maybe Chur, that's with him all the time. Or Hilfy, the apprentice.

I will go on to read Xanth right now, and maybe I'll get back to this later.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 11:59:13 No.11748586

>>11748551
You won't get that in the first book. IIRC there's single scene from Haral's POV that takes place away from Pyanfar. In the trilogy that follows you get Hilfy POV and some Tully relationship exploration, but I don't know if it would be enough for you. I think you'd enjoy Chanur's Legacy more, and you don't technically need to read the others for it, though I'd be sad for you.
I just can't believe you aren't enjoying my favorite book.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 12:03:29 No.11748603 >>11748350 >>11748433 Sauce?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 12:28:10 No.11748670 >>11742688 Just finished Neuromancer and I don't get what all the hype is about.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 12:29:12 No.11748677 >>11748670 It's aged poorly.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 12:31:48 No.11748692
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>>11748586
Oh, btw, am I retarded or is the book written in a really weird way? Sometimes the sentences go straight over my head and the syntax makes absolutely no sense to me.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 12:32:28 No.11748698 >>11748670 Read Snowcrash instead. >>11748677 No, it was always bad.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 12:34:20 No.11748713 >>11748698 Snow Crash is even worse.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 12:36:29 No.11748719 >>11748713 You must not like fun.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 12:36:33 No.11748720 File: 153 KB, 1600x900, a rare picture of fedora man without his hat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11748713 Duel me, you plebian scum!

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 12:40:10 No.11748733
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>>11748719
I like fun, but Snow Crash is fun the same way Kung Fury is, i.e. the lowest and shallowest form of fun where you just throw dinosaurs and shit on the screen to make everyone scream "WOW, LOOK AT HOW EPIC THIS SHIT IS!".

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 12:43:44 No.11748746

>>11748692
I don't think so? Cherryh taught Latin and some of her stuff can be kinda dense, though she's no prose lyricist like Vance. The Pride of Chanur is one of her more accessible works.
>>11748733
Snow Crash is good because cyberpunk is a terrible genre.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 12:45:16 No.11748753

>>11748733
>you just throw dinosaurs
Books with dinosaurs? I tried reading the The Many Colored Land, but aside from being at the wrong epoch, there was a stupid rule that every female would have to be sterile. Talk about lame, didn't actually get past that.

Alternatively, any giant animals will do.

>>11748746
>I don't think so?
So you don't think I am actually retarded? Wew, that's a relief.

>>	Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Fri, Sep 7, 2018 12:46:16 No.11748757 File: 29 KB, 545x443, Jack Vance with Cat & Dog.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Catfag, at least post kitthots if you're gonna be arguing with these Rabbitors.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 12:54:43 No.11748793
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>>11748753
>So you don't think I am actually retarded? Wew, that's a relief.
You might just need to challenge yourself more anon. Everyone improves.
>>11748757
I posted them a couple threads back. I don't keep much supply. Have a fantasy Janeway and her pair of bearfoxes

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 12:58:51 No.11748812 >>11748698 Maybe I feel this way because I already did read SC (and love Neal S) >>11748746 He may have a point about the genre, it's more about fun than being high brow prosaic >>11748733 People thought KF was epic? We took it to be more of a parody

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 13:00:22 No.11748819

>>11747417
Again: Rorschach acts exactly as if it was self-aware and fits most definitions of sentience. Everything else, like "consciousness being a costly computational aberration compared to more focused and efficient non-sentient species" only holds water if you accept the likely incorrect premise that Rorschach isn't sentient in the first place when you do not define sentience in the specific way Peter Watts does.

To be clear, not saying that Rorschach and the Scramblers weren't good. I'd still easily recommend the series if people asked me for good sci-fi horror or for books with really "alien" life.

Still, it's easy to think otherwise given the themes in Blindopraxia, but Watts has no qualifications in neurology, psychology or psychiatry . His PhD is in marine biology. There is literally no reason to take his ideas so seriously, interesting as they may be to ponder

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 13:08:41 No.11748860

>>11747625
Well, true, but with the slarn enhancements its acceptable. Also there's the scene with the female soldier getting her shit kicked in by two male soldiers.

Then there's the specialty roles like controlling the bird, demolitions, and sniping. All within the realm of possibility.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 13:28:21 No.11748964

>>11748300
felt the same way before I bought it(was on sale and figured what the Hell)

next thing I know I really like it, think because it's played totally straight so it comes off as a standard fantasy world. Also gives me a shit ton of old school Everquest vibes and that hits me squarely in the nostalgia

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 13:52:57 No.11749067 >>11748295 It’s that time of the thread again fruitcake.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 13:54:40 No.11749073 File: 55 KB, 620x889, bunny thinking.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11749067 We're only on page 4. If I have to make the next thread I swear I'll make it bunny-themed.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 13:58:39 No.11749089 >>11749073 I'm concerned that you, as a finn, are reciting br'er rabbit. How deep goes the rabbit hole?

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 14:02:12 No.11749103

>>11748964
>it's played totally straight
I don't get what you mean by it. Are you saying that it doesn't have game elements, or that the book takes the game elements in it very seriously and not as a parody? Because the second option sucks ass and the first isn't really litrpg.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 14:05:03 No.11749115

>>11748753
>there was a stupid rule that every female would have to be sterile
Looking back now, that rule is even stupider than I realized at first. Its reason is supposed to be so that the females that did go back in time were not treated like animals and pleasure slaves, but that is dumb because females don't need to be able to produce offspring to be treated as such in the first place.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 14:28:09 No.11749223

>>11749115
Maybe it's so that said females wouldn't end up producing offspring and starting a whole new lineage in the past, which could well fuck up the timeline on a grand scheme of things?

Although that'd still raise a question on how men are allowed to just go and fuck a bunch of women in the past...

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 15:04:28 No.11749373 >>11749223 Nah, they weren't worried about the past fucking up the present at all. I think it's just the author's way of protecting his ass from fridge logic.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 15:06:23 No.11749381 how do we make science fiction and fantasy great again?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 15:07:39 No.11749387 >>11749381 We write some great science fiction and fantasy ourselves, anon. What you think is great, you write. Or if you can't write, then tell people to read the stuff you think is great.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 15:24:30 No.11749462 >>11749381 Wait for the second coming of Tolkien.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 15:36:20 No.11749515 >been homeless for the past 2 years >finally got a flat >can now buy a bookcase and my own books what should be the first book I ever buy for my collection lads?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 15:38:17 No.11749527 >>11749515 lotr

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 15:38:21 No.11749529 >>11749515 A Memory of Light by Brandon Sanderson, my man

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 15:38:30 No.11749530 File: 131 KB, 1920x1080, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11749515 Mistborn

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 15:38:59 No.11749531 >>11749515 The Hobbit. I think there's a pretty great boxed set of that and The Lord of the Rings that you could buy if you can afford it, but The Hobbit is where it all started.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 15:44:04 No.11749559 File: 1003 KB, 1842x2458, 91gWfIYwKTL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11749515 Leatherette-bound edition of The Hobbit. Looks nice without being too expensive (~$25)

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 15:52:05 No.11749588 >>11749381 >>11749462 specifically, we need someone who does to sci-fi what tolkien did for fantasy

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 15:52:24 No.11749591 >>11749559 >>11749527 >>11749529 >>11749530 cool, I will get The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 15:53:07 No.11749596 >>11749588 We already had Dune.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 15:56:27 No.11749604 >>11749588 Someone who inspires so much fanfiction it kills the whole genre?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 15:57:14 No.11749608 >>11749596 >Doon

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 16:10:40 No.11749658 >>11749604 yes. can't have a Renaissance until then.

>>	Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Fri, Sep 7, 2018 16:16:25 No.11749691 It's my turn to host the tea party, ladies. Right this way, if you please: >>11749687 >>11749687 >>11749687

Anonymous Fri, Sep 7, 2018 17:48:07 No.11750017

>>11747939
I think what he tried to say is that the author went "I want vampires, let me jump through hoops to justify my image of them" rather than "what if there was a subspecies thriving on blood, let me explore the possible consequences".

I haven't read the book though.

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