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[Anonymous No.11712930]

So basically

In real life he was a pathetic frail man who had a weak stomach and was nearly blind and was extremely shy

So he just LARPed about being superman?

[Anonymous No.11712940]

>one of the youngest professors ever

Maybe rail at his accomplishments when you've finally finished undergrad kid

[Anonymous No.11712952]

>>11712940
This hasn't addressed what I said at all

[Anonymous No.11712956]

>>11712930
No he was totally open about the fact that he was a sickly autist. His philosophy was just in part about supermen.

Not to mention reaching into a philosopher's personal life to make sense of their philosophy is one of Nietzsche's innovations.

[Anonymous No.11712957]

>>11712952
You said nothing of worth. Go to the other boards to write your inane shitposts, or at least become better at it.

[Anonymous No.11712963]

>>11712956
So we should disregard everything he said if it contradicts his position in life

[Anonymous No.11712966]

>>11712957
Shut up

[Anonymous No.11713014]

>>11712930
>frail man who had a weak stomach
why does this matter to you? I mean seriously, what the fuck is up? Your goal is to be chad and fuck women? Why not go ahead and hop in your little opium den you dumb faggot

[Anonymous No.11713025]

>>11712930
he didn't say that he himself was a superman

[Anonymous No.11713039]

>>11712963
see
>>11713025
Nobody is an actual ubermensch, and that's not all his philosophy's about. Stop trying to attach the philosophy to the philosopher. Read his works and see if you find any meaning in them.

[Anonymous No.11713051]

>>11712963
No, read my post again.

My point is that him being a sickly autist doesn't actually discredit anything he said. Not to mention a large part of Nietzsche's analysis of strength and weakness is that the distinction can actually be very blurry and counter-intuitive.

[Anonymous No.11713160]

>>11712963
Maybe it's because he was a philosopher who did nothing but think read and write.

[Anonymous No.11713188]

>>11712930
So weak men shouldn't aspire to greatness?

[Anonymous No.11713204]

No, he was an absolute visionary genius mad lad who foresaw the decline of Christianity in Europe and worked his fuckin ass off to try to find a worthy replacement, only to be horrendously misinterpreted by onions boy faggots a century later who regularly accuse him of being a nihilist (he is more like an anti-nihilist desu) and a nazi (this one is just pathetically transparent poisoning the well).

Eat shit and die and be burned alongside a thousand copies of Harry Potter

[Anonymous No.11713394]

funny that ubermensch is mentioned like 7 times in nietzsche's corpus, never fleshed out, was really a peripheral quasi-idea, yet it's become the dude's legacy. I guess its just like the platonic forms that plato never even talked about.

[Anonymous No.11713429]

>>11712940

He couldn't hold the only job that has no requirements.

[Anonymous No.11713658]

>>11712930
He was more contra soi and bugmen than pro uebermenschen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

>>11713204
>nazi (this one is just pathetically transparent poisoning the well)
Had he known Jews better I think he would have agreed with the Nazis. They take the worst of liberalism and materialism and run with it until they're beyond all limits.

[Anonymous No.11713668]

>>11713658
Link should be the following:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_man

[Anonymous No.11713692]

>>11713429
umm he gave lectures

[Anonymous No.11713707]

>>11713204
>who foresaw the decline of Christianity in Europe
>foresaw
What percentage of Nietzsche readers are this historically ignorant?

[Anonymous No.11713742]

>>11712930

[Anonymous No.11714567]

>>11712966
No.

If you think will to power is about becoming superman then you have not read his works or have and have missed the point entirely. Also ignoring that a good part of that was edited posthumously.

lurk/read more fagget.

[Anonymous No.11714617]

No, his concepts (master/slave morality, will to power) are solid, and were revolutionary for his time. It has nothing to do with LARPing. Now fuck off.

[Anonymous No.11714625]

>>11713707
It hurts me every morning when I see how absolutely cucked Europe has become. As little as four decades of being godless will do it.

[Anonymous No.11714672]

>>11712930

His eighteenth-century medications were slowly killing him.

[Anonymous No.11714813]

>>11712930
All philosophy is just "muh feelings" and personal opinions. That's why I don't waste time reading it anymore.

[Anonymous No.11714849]

>>11714813
"look mom, I posted it!"

[Anonymous No.11714910]

>>11714849
I'm an adult so why would I inform my mother of my postings on 4chan? Your insults don't even make any sense. That philosophy has rotted your brain it seems.

[Anonymous No.11714979]

>>11714910
Amazing reply.

[Anonymous No.11714991]

>A person's worth as a thinker is dependent on how their physical body was
This is almost as bad as those who shit talk Schopenhauer because he "wuz an incel loser who had no gf lel'

[Anonymous No.11715040]

>>11712930
>dude has a horrible life
>falls is love with girl
>proposes and get rejected
>sick as hell
>has to stay locked up in a room for months because of sickness
>still smart likes to read a lot
>reflects a lot
>comes up with a new philosophy
>believes that a strong person is born in difficult times
>that the superman should love his fate and create his on sense of moral and ethics
>that simply hating life will get us nowhere

It makes a lot of sense if you think about it.

[Anonymous No.11715227]

>>11714910
holy....

[Anonymous No.11715235]

>>11714910
White and based

[Anonymous No.11715250]

people make assumptions about the man's philosophy without even reading him. Nietzsche's superman is not some burly man of action or oppressor but a free thinker who dictates his own values based on his own subjective (not relativistic) relation to WTP and can take the burden of living outside of society and common morality that goes along with it

[Anonymous No.11716648]

>>11713658
>Had he known Jews better I think he would have agreed with the Nazis. They take the worst of liberalism and materialism and run with it until they're beyond all limits.

[Anonymous No.11716658]

>>11712930
He never refers to himself as the Overman. He's the prophet of the Overman.

>>11713039
>Nobody is an actual ubermensch
Wrong. Nietzsche was pretty clear that the Overman was possible. He's the "whole man," who appears occasionally in history and is typically an accident if anything. Nietzsche's goal was to try and funnel the variables that would cause that accident so we could later manufacture it more reliably.

[Anonymous No.11716688]

>>11714910
A wild, free and uncaged natural attitude, whomst've'd known what it is ever like anymore?

[Anonymous No.11716841]

>>11713658
>He was more contra soi and bugmen than pro uebermenschen:
how so? the last man is given as an alternative goal to the overman, so yes, him being contra last man is him being pro overman.

[Anonymous No.11716864]

>>11713394
>Plato never talked about the Forms

lol, oke.

>Nietzsche only mentioned the Übermensch 7 times in his corpus

do you even read?

[Anonymous No.11716874]

>>11712930
Exactly. You finally got it, anon.

[Anonymous No.11716939]

>>11713039
>Nobody is an actual ubermensch
That's where you're wrong. Women have always been ubermensch.

[Anonymous No.11717954]

>>11714849

I mean as far as NEETzsche goes he's right.

[Anonymous No.11717963]

>>11712930
yes

[Anonymous No.11718924]

>>11713658
You really think you know more than Nietzsche about the jews? lmao

[Anonymous No.11719283]

>>11712930
Nietzsche said he could no longer afford to be a pessimist because he was too sickly. That's why he renounced Schopenhauerism and came up with this mental world of compensation.

Schopenhauer was a healthy rich handsome womaniser chad and could afford to explore the darkest thoughts, he was stable. Nietzsche couldn't afford anything but high spirited nonsense because coming too terms with reality would be too disastrous, as he finally proved when he had his breakdown.