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Guys, please, let me understand why dytopic novels are so popular. Seems to me like almost every dystopic book out there gets well regarded. Also, people have been recommending me reading several dystopic books (and watch DT films aswell), but I never really even get the motivation to read them. They just seem so unoriginal to me.

Am I missing something? Shall I give them a try with a new mindset?

>> No.11709033

If you don't like it, don't read it faggot.
And make some new friends

>> No.11709208

>>11708765
It's called dystopia not dystopy. Dystopy is a metal band.

>> No.11709252
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>>11708765
It helps me remember Utopianism killed 100 trillion people in the 20th century alone

>> No.11709267

>>11709252
*Wild feminist appear*
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NO PLATFORM FOR FEMINISTS.

Defenders of free speech in a nutshell.

>> No.11709285

>>11708765
define 'dystopia'. is Farenheit 451 dystopian? is Infinite Jest dystopian?

>> No.11709287

>>11708765
It's shallow but appears "deep" to people who don't read a lot. We live in a society tier

>> No.11709434

OP from another device back here..

>>11709285
I read neither so can't judge

>>11709287
So is there really nothing more to it?

>> No.11709444

>>11709208
Forgive a poor non-english-speeking-country-local, please

>> No.11709570

>>11709444
Thou art forgiven.
Thou shall repent of ur sins now, fagót

>> No.11709642

>>11708765
Ok, let me try.this.

> Oxford says that dystopia is: An imagined state or society in which there is great suffering or injustice, typically one that is totalitarian or post-apocalyptic.

That's it, you shouldn't expect a happy ending or any kind of salvation of humanity. All hope is lost in these works, you can only continue living your life or, useless, try to rebel against your situation.

Even if there's some sort of "happy ending", the protagonist loses a lot, his own life, his loved ones, even his own sanity.

Why read them? The real question is: Why not? The world is not full of rainbows and unicorns, it's evil, dark, corrupt, and these novels shows how it can get even worst.
So why not read them? Sometimes you discover something about yourself and even the society you live in. Sometimes you just want to read something that won't try to fool you into the "perfect world", but tells a sincere story about how fucked up things can be.

It's not for everyone, so if you don't like these genre, you should go after something else. Maybe cyberpunk, maybe post-apocalypse, something else.

>> No.11709678

Because the characters suffer.

>> No.11709701

>>11709285
infinite jest is absolutely dystopian

>> No.11709781

>>11709285
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dystopian_literature

>> No.11709785

>>11709781
Oh yeah, there's this too: http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/dystopias

>> No.11709814

>>11708765
>They just seem so unoriginal to me
They weren't, and therefore aren't, as "originality" can only be judged by its merit at the time it was published. Their ideas seem old to you because they were influential and have been absorbed into wider culture, from which you've been presented their ideas and what they inspired.

>> No.11710608

>>11708765
>Catch 22
>Lord of the Flies
>
>
>Dystopia

>> No.11711197

>>11710608
I'm quite sure about the Lord of the Flies, but it seems I had misconceptions about Catch 22 and may actually read it now

>> No.11711204

>>11708765
they'er exciting and easy to understand. i really liked them when i was a young teenager and even at one point wondered what the appeal in non-dystopic written fiction was. they have a lot of inherent drama.

>> No.11711361

I read a lot of fiction for the characters and their dense plots. I read dystopian lit when my innate anthropologist needs to be sated. Inherent to any good dystopia is a message the author has, after all they are making a statement on what a bad society, a bad civilization is and on the flipside of the coin illustrating in silhouette what they believe a virtuous society would be.

Naturally since this is their main focus we get a wonderful picture painted for us, with the energies of the author glaring at us as they try to show us this alien, fictional world. What was fascinating about Brave New World was the brave new world.

>> No.11711406

Every dystopia book out there is well regarded? Are you braindead? Do you know how many books are published every year?

>> No.11711426

>>11711406
Give me three dystopian books that aren't well regarded.

Pro tip: you can't

>> No.11711436

>>11708765
Dystopian fiction has largely become irrelevant or a meme to me. Mainly because it trivialises their warnings through hyper exaggeration (or worse) if it's written by contemporary writers it just feels like political masturbation of the highest degree. That might be mainly because I think we're living in a time where action is crucial rather than smugly patting ourselves on the back about how we're doing so well in fighting off the cautionary possibilities written by the likes of Orwell and Huxley. The several decades we've had of telling ourselves we will not enter the worlds of We or Handmaid's tale have led to a covert rise in authoritarianism, whether it's mass surveillance or things like the Patriot act, you name it, which to me speaks volumes about the effectiveness of these scary stories and how we've engaged with the texts throughout time. That being said I don't think they're totally bad texts, but I also don't think we live in a time where they should be upheld and glorified anymore, and when I see the likes of Clinton quoting 1984, it just feels like the so called warnings themselves have been commodified and co-opted by the establishment they set out to critique.
There is also the fact that I think most of the popular ones are garbage but thats beside the point

>> No.11712895

>>11711436
>because it trivialises their warnings through hyper exaggeration
good post, it's becoming more and more of a contest to see who can out-dystope his predecessors

>> No.11712900

Nothing. I am utterly repulsed by it.

>> No.11712924

>>11711426
Almost all of YA.

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>>11709252
wash my peepee