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Are main characters of books alienated, isolated loners because that's what the life and personality of a writer tends to be like, or is there some other reason why alienation is so common in literature.

>> No.11705351

>>11705342

I often feel like the romantic dimensions of cyperpunk novels always suffer from the antisocial history of the author.

>> No.11705359

>>11705342
>that's what the life and personality of a writer tends to be like

Yes. Conveniently, this is also true of readers.

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>>11705359
S-shut up

>> No.11705368

>>11705351
That's ar of what makes them good tho

>> No.11705370

>>11705368
*part

>> No.11705371

>>11705342
the first reason
sociable people make self-help books, or political books, or autobiographies

>> No.11705379

>>11705359
Why am I like this?
I believe I am too conscious of my own self, life, and future that I cannot interact with others. My existence feels plastic and wrapped. I cannot meet another person without knowing that I am one of billions of plastic figures walking around.

>> No.11705385

>>11705379
Start with a breeding program for your emotions. Kill the ones rulings over you.

>> No.11705428

>>11705371
What about Oscar Wilde

>> No.11705439

>>11705351
>The sex scene in the beginning of Neuromancer
Ayyy

>> No.11705763

>>11705342
It's easier to focus on a solemn personality and mind than that of one in a storm brought by other people. You want inner dialogue and it's possible within a mind. You want interaction, and you need action.

>> No.11705909

>>11705763
Wouldn’t a chaotic mind disturbed by a storm brought by other people lend itself to more interesting inner dialogue? It would at least be different from the pretentious navel gazing inner dialogue of a loner

>> No.11705982
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MY ALIENATION IS FOURFOLD
FIRSTLY, I AM ALIENATED FROM THE PRODUCT OF MY LABOR
SECONDLY, I AM ALIENATED FROM THE ACTIVITY OF MY LABOR
THIRDLY, I AM ALIENATED FROM MY FELLOW MAN
AND LASTLY, I AM ALIENATED FROM MY SELF AS SPECIES BEING

>> No.11706411

>>11705342
In the primary, alienation cuts both ways, by superiority and inferiority, often of different attributes in the same person. Pope and Leopardi were physically wretched, while the former was a prodigy of satiric verse, and the latter a scholarly aristocrat. Secondarily, temperament is probably the deciding factor in whether alienation is boon or bane to quality of life, experiential richness or poverty. A few of the playfully absurdist writers were quite happy in their alienation, and sustained extraordinary lightness of heart their whole lives. They seem to suffer least from nightmares and the backlashings of bad conscience that augment gloom, and are shrewd enough to make their own way in life---born, as it were, with lessons few can learn. Alienation can also develop so gradually that one hardly notices it as such. We become strange to our families, actors to our friends, and charming curiosities to our neighbors, yet all goes about as well as it did before. It also depends on how just one's cause is. If you're exceptionally empathic and shrink from being ruffled by the the madding crowd's voluble moods, especially when ugly, you'd be right to reject most company, and seek solitude. If you're the opposite, and simply antisocial, misanthropic, or otherwise pathologically controlling of others as objects, they'd be right to reject you, and impose unwanted confinement.

>> No.11706989

>>11706411
Where is this from?

>> No.11707198

>>11705379
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder

>> No.11707482
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It is because everyone is alone.

>> No.11707487

>>11705342
Most people feel they are alienated in some form.

>> No.11707782

>>11705379
don't worry, someday you will meet your manic pixie gf just like in the stories.