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Should I read The Fountainhead before I read Atlas Shrugged? Should I read any other of Ayn Rand's books before I read Shrugged or any other books in general? I'm a very new reader so I'm just wondering.

>> No.11679532

>>11679530
you shouldn't read either. the're both garbage

>> No.11679533

>Should I read The Fountainhead before I read Atlas Shrugged?
Yes. Then you can read Atlas Shrugged.

>> No.11679538

>>11679533
Would you recommend anything else beforehand as well?

>>11679532
Then why is it frequently recommended here + everywhere else?

>> No.11679544

>>11679538
>Would you recommend anything else beforehand as well?
Not really no, just start with The Fountainhead to have a grasp at Rand's ideology.

>Then why is it frequently recommended here + everywhere else?
Ayn Rand is hated on 4chan for some reason, most of these people didn't even read her works.

>> No.11679553

>>11679538
people on /pol/ read her wikipedia page and think she's based. Then pretend to have read her to look cool. you can agree with her ideas, but the fact is that this bitch can't write

>> No.11679559

>>11679553
>muh /pol/ boogyman
shoo shoo, back to r*ddit

>> No.11679562

>>11679553
>but the fact is that this bitch can't write
Why do you say that? I think her prose is decent.

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>>11679530
Atlas Shrugged is fine to do first. It's just long as hell, plenty dry at times, and repetitive.

It does a good job hitting her general philosophy from every possible angle, using characters who are more archetypes than actual people to elaborate via discussion.

She's not a great writer, but I still found it a fun read since the world itself was pretty amusing, and the character dialogue, even when rather absurd ('bad' characters will make it 1000% evident they are bad and stupid) it was pretty fun to shoot through.

While there are dry parts, at least to me, describing the awe of technology and human achievement, other parts of the primary plot had me excited to keep reading.

Go for it bruh.

>> No.11680342

>>11679559
Reddit hates her too

>> No.11680771

>>11679530
Don't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j56IiLqZ9U

>> No.11681869

>>11679530
I read 400p of AS and it was like kinda cool at first because the characters were unlike anything I'd read before. Due to this I forgave her boring prose. BUT THEN it's just so repetitive like all the characters are:
>I'll RIGHTEOUSLY do it myself, without the government!
endlessly for the next 350 pages like goddamn no wonder asshole Young Republicans like this drivel

additionally I hate her unnecessary comma usage

>> No.11681898

>>11679538
the talmud

>> No.11681904

>>11681869
It gets less bad as the story pieces fall together and the plot continues to unravel.

But it's definitely repetitive.

>> No.11681939

>>11679530
I'd rather read the fucking dictionary cover to cover.

>> No.11682296

>>11679533
This. I think the Fountainhead is a better novel in many ways.

I suppose the themes and political beliefs expressed in the two novels are about the same but I think most of the political stuff is only made explicit in Atlas Shrugged.

Fountainhead seems more focussed on the stuff I really care about, namely the nature of virtue, creation as a virtue, or as the expression of one's virtues. Something like that.

Atlas Shrugged goes over the virtue of creation more quickly but then goes on to discuss the justice of ownership of one's creations.

So perhaps the Fountainhead is better because it focusses on its characters more than Atlas Shrugged, whereas the latter is more polemical and uses characters to make a point.

Perhaps I am rambling.

>> No.11682337

>>11679538
The people who don't want you to read Atlas are the people who know Galt's speech irrevocably eviscerates their ideology. Or decidedly lack of one.

>> No.11682343

>>11680771
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axk9o80V7m4

>> No.11682382
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>>11680771
Please PLEASE constructionpaper cartoon tell me what to think.

>> No.11682395

>>11679530
More than anything Atlas Shrugged lays out perfectly the meta of the blue pill and why people choose it.

>> No.11682408

>>11679544
>Ayn Rand is hated on 4chan for some reason
On /lit/ it's an infestation of r/philosophy dipshits and muh jews faggotry on the site in general

>> No.11682456

>>11679530
Watch these and know there is an even bigger logical bombshell waiting in Galt's Speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1-_k6mKSxk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_EaVWMMoqM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ2_ZxveT6U

>> No.11683324

>>11679530
I'd recommend it yeah. Though conversely if you only want to read one; it should be Atlas.

>> No.11684523

>>11682337
>not having an ideology is a bad thing
>how will I know what to think if nobody tells me?

>> No.11685633

>>11684523
Why do you equate having an ideology with others telling you what to think?
Not having ANY ideology whatsoever is a disintegrative mentality. Don't the fallacy that is centrism tell you otherwise.

>> No.11685689

>>11679530
Read "Anthem" (short story length) first. Style aside: if you don't like the philosophy, you won't like either of the megabooks.

>> No.11685767

>>11679532
Fpbp

>> No.11685821

>>11679553
Most people on /pol/ dislike her you idiot.

>> No.11686882

>>11679532
fpbp

>> No.11686983

Just read Anthem. All of the novels are just Anthem rewritten with less subtlety and more boring characters.

>> No.11687027

Fpbp.

>> No.11687052

>>11686983
>>11685689
this.

>> No.11687320

>>11684523
Projecting

>> No.11687350

>>11679532
based