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>why don't trees grow here
>why do not trees grow here

Is communication fundamentally flawed?

>> No.11630665

>>11630660
No, just Angloids.

>> No.11630877

"Why do trees not grow here?"
wow that was so difficult

>> No.11630904

>>11630660
you should try russian - it has caveman sentence forms like -
Me Thomas.
Here tree.

>> No.11630924

>>11630877
>who do treesn't grow here

>> No.11630934

>>11630904
The more cavemanlike a language is, the more refined it is.

>> No.11630961

>>11630934
you mean crude, primitive, dull and shit

>> No.11630969

>>11630961
efficient

>> No.11631146

>>11630660
>Don't you dare
>Do not you dare

What a stupid language quirk

>> No.11631204
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11631204

There is a reason I never read books in english unless it is the original language.
Romance languages masterrace reporting in.

>> No.11631259

>>11631204
English is the ultimate romance language. Look at Shakespeare and Nabokov.

>> No.11631291

>>11631146
"You don't dare"
Do you have a brain?

>> No.11631343

What do you guys think of French? it sounds so soothing, im thinking about learning it

>> No.11631352

>>11631343
French is only good on Parisian girls. If you go south they all sound like trannies.

>> No.11631384

>>11630660
You only think it sounds incorrect because you've only ever articulated your speech in a syntactically rigid modern dialect. Have fun reading Dante or Milton, retard.

>> No.11631411

>>11631343
French is the ugliest sounding language.

>> No.11631959

>>11631411
eliminate your own map

>> No.11632652

>>11630969
imprecise

>> No.11632755

>>11632652
is not. only removes filler.

>> No.11632868

>>11631411
you never heard dutch?

>> No.11632888

>>11631411
and they don't even pronounce half the word

>> No.11632889

The trick is to already know why trees wouldn't be able to grow there.

>> No.11633244

>>11632868
krijg kanker

>> No.11633330

>>11632868
Dutch sounds like someone tried to develop German into English without an instruction manual, got scared halfway through and stopped, then was hit in the head several times.

>> No.11633364

>>11633330
That's sort of accurate since Dutch is a West-Germanic language like English but less corrupted by Latin and Celtic influences.

If you listen to old English it sounds a lot like Dutch.

>> No.11633369

>>11633364
>>11633330
post the funny sketch already

>> No.11633379

>>11633369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4iyvkpq9eM

>> No.11633389

>>11632868

Val neer, kankergek

>> No.11633448

>>11633379
Dutch has a funny sketch too? I'm just drunk and was thinking of Danish

well it's all the same to me anyway, i don't give a shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk

>> No.11633937

>>11632755
See how you just posted without filler words and you sounded like a complete retard? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

>> No.11633950

>>11633448
I've watched that video so many times and I'm not even nordic

>> No.11633960

>>11631146
Do not dare is a valid sentence. The you is not needed.

>> No.11633961

>>11630969
>efficient
>six cases and don't even bother learning verb conjugation

>> No.11634028

>>11630660
>Is communication fundamentally flawed?
Spoken / written language certainly isn't rigorously structured. That's not necessarily a "flaw" though, it's kind of the whole benefit to how natural language works that it's super-flexible and emerges based on how people really talk and write, in contrast with contrived attempts at pre-planned conlangs which never succeed.
There's probably an analogy to free market capitalism vs. planned central economies that you could make here. Free market capitalism isn't perfect, but it's more or less the best thing we have, and attempts to force it to be something else often backfire.
Contrast with programming languages like C++ where there isn't any tolerance at all for communicating in a way that mostly says the same thing as the official syntax would say. THAT is a rigorously defined language. For the purposes it's used, it's great, but you wouldn't want to have to use C++ as a spoken language, you need the organic flexibility of real natural languages for that purpose.

>> No.11634033

>>11634028
> C++ where there isn't any tolerance at all for communicating in a way that mostly says the same thing as the official syntax would say
Tell that to my junior devs

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>>11633937
>grug add useless words because long sentence smart

>> No.11634141

>>11631343
we learned it all throughout primary and secondary school in belgium. it's a lot of fuckery with little rules that don't always apply and stuff. French grammar is absolute shite to study

>> No.11634146

>>11634033
Syntax-wise there isn't tolerance if you write something pretty close but not exactly well formed.
That isn't to say it's impossible to have problems with any code that compiles successfully, but that's a different category of problem (or a different category of categories of problems really).

>> No.11634600

>>11633961
kek, Russianfags eternally BTFO

>> No.11634608

>>11631204
Basado. El inglés es para plebeyos.

>> No.11634693

>>11631259
>English is the ultimate romance language
what did he mean by this, lads?

>> No.11634726

>>11631204
baisé et rouge-pilulé

>> No.11634731

>>11634028
c++'s tolerance is precisely the problem with it. You can express the same thing like a zillion different and impossibly bizarre ways.