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*reads Dostoyevsky once*

>> No.11630309

yeah, I’m a Christian, you got a problem with that? I used to be a sinner like you but 2 years ago I found GOD. In my teens I would laugh at creationists; I would always tell my grandma that I didn’t want to go to mass; I was agnostic but not like r/Atheism. But when I GREW UP and became a man, I realised I needed to put childish things away (1 Corinthians 13:11). Why is that? Because I realized that we need Christianity to SAVE THE WEST. After I voted Trump in the 2016 election I decided to go to church again. I knew that I would find a QT pure Christian GF who I could lose my virginity to (I haven’t lost it yet because I’m saving myself for marriage, like God intended). I haven’t found her yet, but like Job I will pray and have faith in God. Then I saw Jordan Peterson talking about Christianity and I was hooked! (I don’t like him anymore though, he’s a fake Christian). I watched all his videos on the bible and realised how God reveals himself in many ways. I was on /pol/ (came from r/The_Donald during the election but I hate redditors now) Christian General and I saw /lit/ chart which had The Bible and I KNEW I found my people. Every day I see THE WEST falling because we gave up our FAITH. Well, the new Christian intellectuals are coming; We are the sons of the Crusaders and we shall not recoil before the sons of Voltaire! (Candide was shit, so is Nietzsche (haven’t read either of them)). /lit/ introduced me to Kierkegaard and I became a KNIGHT OF FAITH, so now I know that I just gotta believe and that’s TRUE bravery. I read DANTE and DOSTOEVSKY and I saw the beauty of God and true art. I’m a proud Catholic (Protestants are heretics) but I hate Pope Francis, he’s a heretic and isn’t MY Pope. /lit/ is a Christian board, and I know that if I just keep recommending the Bible, telling people to go to church, and making threads about how great God is, I will finally be able to sincerely believe in God and distract myself from the gnawing feeling that I’m a fraud. Faith ain’t easy.

>> No.11630316

>>11630309
where was he?

>> No.11630503

>>11630289
Admit it, you too would become an Orthodox Christian if it meant you'd get a qt3.14 like that by your side.

>> No.11630593

>>11630503
I would worship any deity to get a girlfriend at this point tbqh

>> No.11630608
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>>11630593

>> No.11630663

>>11630309
Wow. 4chan BTFO in one post.

>> No.11630674

>>11630309
Nice pasta, needs a bit about masturbation to be complete

>> No.11630675

>>11630503
>>11630593
you lads have it the wrong way around: this fat girl was an sjw and converted because she wanted chadstoyevsky's dick

>> No.11630681

>>11630593
This but I want a daughter instead

>> No.11630694

>>11630681
You want to fuck your daughter

>> No.11630701

>>11630503
>filioque
no anon, some things are just unforgiveable

>> No.11630702
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>>11630503
She is kind of meh, qt Asians are better desu

>> No.11630713

>>11630701
Redpill me on filioque

>> No.11630715

>>11630316
on the corner of First in Amistad

>> No.11630721
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pic related is her before she realised obedience to a man and to god is what makes a woman happy

>> No.11630724

>>11630309
Stop forcing this pasta

>> No.11630725

>>11630713
orthodox teach a heretical creed
they don't want to admit that Holy Ghost comes from Father AND Son and therefore we can never ever be friends

>> No.11630732

>>11630721
Yikers

>> No.11630745

>>11630694
I just want to father my daughter. Probably because i've had a little girl pretend to be my daughter but never had anyone pretend to be my girlfriend.

>> No.11630786

>>11630289
Is there anything more embarrassing on earth than converts?

>> No.11630793

>>11630786
Yes, atheists

>> No.11630813

>>11630793
>sing data from a U.S. study of 6,825 adolescents, the authors found that the average IQ of atheists was 6 points higher than the average IQ of non-atheists. The authors also investigated the link between belief in a god and average national IQs in 137 countries. The authors reported a correlation of 0.60 between atheism rates and level of intelligence, which was determined to be "highly statistically significant".

Ouch this must hurt dumb-dumb Christians

>> No.11630817

>>11630813
*euphoric*

>> No.11630819

>>11630813
atheist birthrates are much lower though and atheism is declining worldwide.

atheism is a maladaptive trait and intelligence isn't worth anything if it leads to genetic dead ends.

>> No.11630820

>>11630817
>SEETHING

>> No.11630827

>>11630820
redd*t

>> No.11630837

>>11630817
>>11630819
>>11630827
>all these Christians btfo

>>11630819
Er... something tells me you're no statistician

>> No.11630845

>>11630309
Needs more things about escaping lust

>> No.11630846

>>11630289
He shouldn't be holding the icon with his bare hands

>> No.11630847

>>11630725
You're retarded. The Filioque is a proven forgery.

>> No.11630855
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>>11630813
>It is true, that a little knowledge in philosophy inclineth man’s mind to Atheism; but depth in philosophy bringeth men’s minds about to religion

Of course all the know- it- all faggots who are just conscious enough to realize that atheism is a possibility gravitate to it to make themselves feel special

>> No.11630858

>>11630847
it has always been a thing, but Church was too generous not to burn you heretics like She should have and now you blossomed into a proper cult

>> No.11630863

>>11630855
Francis Bacon was hardly a great philosopher

>> No.11630873

>>11630863
and you are?

>> No.11630917

>>11630873
I also don't know what relevance this statement has in the 21st century, their is philosophy that directly contradicts his statement

I'm writing my thesis I'll send it to you if you want

>> No.11630941

>>11630837
i'm not, but i get my info from them:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/07/why-people-with-no-religion-are-projected-to-decline-as-a-share-of-the-worlds-population/

>> No.11630962

>>11630858
The Filioque is beyond a shadow of a doubt a late 8th century addition to the Nicene creed. Not even the fucking Catholic Church disputes this anymore. They stick to it on theological grounds i.e. because it's too late to give it up now after so many theologians have written apologetics to prop up the forgery (the theology derived from its addition has a life of its own now).

>> No.11630981

>>11630917
lol if you want, I might read it but calm down buddy I know Bacon operated within a different philosophical paradigm than the one that exists (or, rather, doesn’t exist) today. I’m just shitposting on 4chan

>> No.11630987

>>11630962
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s2c1p2.htm
>The apostolic faith concerning the Spirit was confessed by the second ecumenical council at Constantinople (381): "We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and giver of life, who proceeds from the Father."71
>71 Nicene Creed; cf. DS 150.

Straight from the Roman Catholic catechism.

>> No.11630993

>>11630962
>late 8th century addition to the Nicene creed
lol is that why there are 4th century appearances of it?
>Not even the fucking Catholic Church disputes this anymore
Catholic Church is in a sorry state, please don't remind me of what it has become

>> No.11630996

>>11630981
Same - obviously I know that are religious who are incredibly intelligent and among the greatest thinkers

>> No.11630997

>>11630993
See
>>11630987

>4th century appearances of it
No such thing.

>> No.11631007

>>11630997
we all know post 60s Church and its cathecisms are a joke
>No such thing.
how are you different than jehovas witnesses remind me again

>> No.11631031

>>11631007
I refuse to believe you're serious. Go LARP as a 12th century Crusader on /pol/, not here.

>> No.11631048

>>11631031
this is in no way /pol/, but if it makes you feel better to dismiss your opponents by labeling them with ridiculous labels go for it

>> No.11631055

>>11630503
>>11630593
Islam is the answer

>> No.11631071 [DELETED] 

>>11630941
That study assumes atheism is an inheritable trait, it doesn't measure the rate at which religious people convert to non-religious or vice versa. It also correlates atheism with low fertility on the long term, even though neither of them causes the other.

>> No.11631194

>>11631055
This. Christianity is the sick man of religion.

>> No.11631224

>>11630289
I was raised Orthodox but all this time on /lit/ makes me feel like a LARPer for keeping with my own faith. Just today my mum commended my recent increase in zeal and it felt as though she just called me out for being a LARPer.
What do I do, guys?

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>>11631194
*bulldozes ancient holy sites to build Las Vegas*

Nah Christianity is fine, Islam is on the brink

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11631238

>>11630289
*reads Dostoyevsky more than once*

>> No.11631244

>>11630309
>I used to be a sinner like you but 2 years ago I found GOD
>I’m a proud Catholic

Pride is a sin, pastanon.

>> No.11631249

>>11631244
This is true

>> No.11631254

>>11631048
Then you're straight up nuts. Like, literally insane.

>> No.11631264

>>11631234
On the brink of being the largest religion in the world while even churchgoing Christians don't take their own beliefs seriously.

>> No.11631281

>>11630721
>dumb people jump from cult to cult to fill the void
Who would have thought

>> No.11631293

>>11631264
Even Liberal atheists in the West are unironically better Christians than the average Islamic leader is a muslim. The Islamic world is a joke and all it has to show its faith is acting like deranged niggers

>> No.11631295

>>11631293
most muslims are way more observant than western christians

>> No.11631298

>>11630289
PROGRESS

>> No.11631308

>>11631295
Only in the most superficial ways. Give it some time and Islam will reach a point of utter collapse and unlike Christianity and even Judaism it won't have its defenders afterwards because outside the power structures it reinforces its absolute garbage as a spiritual system.

>> No.11631345

>>11630309
This but without a hint of irony

>> No.11631355

>>11631345
Same here.

>> No.11631356

>>11631254
i dont see anything insane with having religious views that differ than yours

>> No.11631364

>>11631308
>a-any day now

Demography is destiny,anon.

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>>11631364
>Demography is destiny

Yeah thats why Europe has a population of 10 billion since it kept growing at Victorian era rates

>> No.11631376

>>11631224
Become an atheist and then reconvert back into orthodoxy.

>> No.11631378

>>11630289
What's the point of all the additional arms on the cross?

>> No.11631379

>>11631281
So smart people embrace the void and live in despair?

>> No.11631380

>>11631379
Mostly yeah pretty much

>> No.11631383

>>11631380
that's retarded

>> No.11631394

>>11631378
I believe the top one is where INRI was written and the bottom one was some kind of footstand that either symbolises the two men that were crucified along with Christ or heaven and hell.

>> No.11631404

>>11631378
>>11631394
Its because they know the Roman Church is real Christianity so they had to add extra shit on to show they're a superfluous Church

>> No.11631417

>>11631380
Why not create their own meaning?

>> No.11631426

>>11631417
Because meaning without transcendental reference is nonsense and not meaning

>> No.11631456

>>11631372
Muslims have higher birthrate than non-Muslims even at the exact same level of welfare, education, developed et cetera. That's one of the interesting features of Islam, Muslims do not fall below replace rate even when prospering.

>> No.11631472

>>11631456
This is nowhere near historic fact to be called a "feature of Islam". Its arbitrary short term happenstance. Over the course of history Islam displayed tremendously slower population growth
Watch what happens when female muslims become increasingly educated and attain economic independence, they're already able to drive now in Saudi Arabia and its all rapidly downhill from here

>> No.11631517

>>11631426
So you should create your own meaning through transcendental reference?

>> No.11631528

>>11631517
If you could then its not *your* meaning, its just meaning. Thats what transcendental means you goober

>> No.11631540

>>11631356
You don't have religious views that differ from mine. You're practically a Flat Earther.
We're not talking about beliefs here. Fact: the Filioque is a forgery.

>> No.11631559

>>11631472
>Watch what happens when female muslims become increasingly educated and attain economic independence, they're already able to drive now in Saudi Arabia and its all rapidly downhill from here
That's the thing, it's female independence that ruins societies and of all societies Islam is the best at preventing this.

Of course it could very well be that even Islam buckles and humanity is fucked, but they will be the last to do so.

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>>11630289
>>11630721
Here source.

>> No.11631577

>>11631559
>and of all societies Islam is the best at preventing this.

Hardly, they're just behind the curve and I think once they snap they have nothing since at least Christianity has an ability to call for moral conscience at an individual level while without force Islam really has nothing.

Its like the controlling father vs the liberal father. The liberal father might see his kids acting out more from the get go but the controlling father can see his kids straight up reject him and become absolute turbo degenerates as a backlash

>> No.11631602

>>11631540
yes, in fact every unconventional worldview is in line with flat earth
you are not accomplishing what you think you are here

>Fact: the Filioque is a forgery
kek, longer you deny reality worse it will be orthomemer

>> No.11631638

>>11631577
>Hardly, they're just behind the curve
Proving my point.

>Its like the controlling father vs the liberal father. The liberal father might see his kids acting out more from the get go but the controlling father can see his kids straight up reject him and become absolute turbo degenerates as a backlash
But Western society is filled with absolute turbo degenerates and has the most 'liberal father' of all.

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>>11631602
>yes, in fact every unconventional worldview is in line with flat earth
>you are not accomplishing what you think you are here

>Fact: the Filioque is a forgery
>kek, longer you deny reality worse it will be orthomemer

>> No.11631700

>>11631684
the moment you post brainless wojak meme is the moment when you lose every shred of credibility left

>> No.11631715

>>11631638
>But Western society is filled with absolute turbo degenerates

What do you think the Saudi elite get up to? On the contary the recent generations of Westerners have become moralistic dry wet blankets in comparison

>> No.11631729

>>11631700
>a flat earther claims the higher ground on credibility
Hilarious.

>> No.11631745

>>11631569
>nun Catharine
Begone schimatic

>> No.11632040

>>11631715
What do you think the Western elites get up to?

Saudis as a people in general are far less degenerate than Westerners. There are laws in place against degeneracy. In the West you get celebrated for it.

>> No.11632116

>>11630289

Dostoyevsky is a deep motherfucker.

>> No.11632150

>>11630593
>>11630675

Y'all incel motherfuckers need to grow up and stop complaining

>> No.11632619

>>11630309
Listen you son of a bitch, what the fuck's your problem? You wanna sit here and say that I'm a god damn fuckin heretic? You get in my face with that I'll beat your god damn ass you son of a bitch. You piece of shit, you fuckin god damn fucker. Listen fuckhead, you have fuckin crossed the line, get that through your god damn fuckin head. Stop pushin your shit, you're the people who have fucked this website over and gangraped the shit out of it and lost an admin, so stop shooting your mouth off and claiming that I'm the enemy. You got that you son of a bitch? Fill your hand, sorry but I'm done. You start callin me a heretic, those are fuckin fightin words, excuse me.

>> No.11632629

>>11630503
>>11630593
Latvian Orthodox, to be precise.

>> No.11632642

>>11632150
i'm volcel and not complaining

>> No.11632762

>>11630289
>holding the icon bare handed

>> No.11632830

>>11631517
>create your own meaning
This age is truly pathetic. No one is able to believe in something greater than themselves, and what is the proposed solution? "Dude, just create your own meaning!". A fittingly stupid answer for a hyper-individualistic age unable to look past its own navel.

>> No.11633014

>>11631426
Believing in transcendence creates the void in the first place. Just find yourself a productive passion and some ambitious entertainment.

>> No.11633160

>>11630593
The man that thinks he would fail, doesn t even try, and therefore fails.

>> No.11633223

>>11633160
*snap*

>> No.11633259

>>11632762
Elaborate and provide source please.

>> No.11633312

>>11631569
Nun Catherine a shit

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>>11630593

>> No.11633380

>>11633014
>Believing in transcendence creates the void in the first place.

Absolutely looney horseshit. You may as well just kill yourself because existing creates pain in the first place.

>> No.11633500

>>11630715
Underrated

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>>11632619
>You piece of shit, you fuckin god damn fucker.

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>>11630309
atheists can't meme

>> No.11633918

>>11630503
Ah no, only slav fuckers become Orthodox Christians, for me and the rest of the world it Catholicism and Protestantism.

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>>11631007
>tfw God is about to cleanse the Catholic Church so righteously that by the time he's done it will be much smaller but also much more devout

It's happening, bros. Buckle up.

>> No.11634078

>>11630819
well yeah christians gotta have kids so their priests can diddle something

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>>11634066
checked
based and redpilled

>> No.11634114

>>11630503
>change religion for a pussy
pathetic beta male, if you're gonna become religious, do it for the right reasons

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>>11630702
meh, the true top tier waifu material qts are muslim girls from the Caucasus region.

>> No.11634134

>>11634078
meanwhile imaams have one to four wives

darwinistically superior memeplex

>> No.11634137

>>11631224
Be a good Orthodox man as you should be. Stop worrying that it's LARPing, it's not, you're not assuming someone else's identity when you go to church.

>> No.11634142

>>11631264
>even churchgoing Christians don't take their own beliefs seriously.
that's where you're wrong

>> No.11634153

>>11631569
Good for the girl. Glad to see such changes happen.

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>>11634126
>not central asian muslim girls

>> No.11634196

>>11630289
dude, dostoyevsky is, like, so deep, so profound... maaan, ya know, i used to be an edgy atheist like you, i used to think that christianity is just a myth and all that stuff.. but, dude, what if, like, what if doesn’t matter if it’s just a “myth”, ya know what im sayin? what if we, like, need myths for our society to function? maaan, religion gives us meaning, it gives us morality, it unites us.. those russians, bro, im tellin you, they have such deep souls..

>> No.11634214

>>11630309
Cringed and bluepilled. Never has a pantheist or theist copypasta been used this excessively while still netting a dozen replies per thread. The absolute state of underage litards

>> No.11634222

>>11634196
>t. never read Dostoevsky and just seen /lit/ meme him

>> No.11634237

>>11634222
I’ve read all of Dostoyevsky’s novels in Russian

>> No.11634238

>>11634142
most catholics i met don't even know their own professed doctrine.

>> No.11634260

>>11634066
>tfw the news about Cardinal McCarrick and the Pennsylvania grand jury report came within a month of each other

Buckle up indeed.

>> No.11634272

>>11634238
most americans i've met can't even cite article 200.15-b of the US penal code. what a bunch of hypocrites

>> No.11634297

>>11634222
post your stacks faggot

>> No.11634337

>>11633918
that's where you're wrong m8

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>>11634156
she qt alright, but I wouldn't wanna breed with an asian, no need for more fuel for r/hapas. Besides the white-looking caucasian muslimas are way more beautiful

>> No.11634356

>>11634196
you just described kermit b peterson, not Dostoyevski

>> No.11634528

>>11633259
No source, but experience. If you're moving an icon a short distance then it's ok, like taking it off the wall to clean (with clean hands and after saying a short prayer). But if you're moving it further and holding it for a long time, like during a funeral, then a clean cloth is used.

>> No.11634544

>>11630289
tfw muslim

>> No.11634560

>>11634272
most americans don't take citizenship seriously, you're only proving my point.

>> No.11634634

>>11634196
Holy...I want more.

>> No.11634669

>>11634353
Yeah, but I can’t compete with Chechen Chads in terms of masculinity, so the Caucasian Muslimas are completely out of my league.

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>>11634066
its happening. The church will be the size of a mustard seed once again

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>>11630309
>>11634196
I'm not sure how to feel about these pastas. When you analyze what they're actually saying, they sound alright, only once it's all together you end up constructing an unflattering image of the archetype that must be saying all this and you recoil from what once seemed valid just so you would have less in common with this mental boogeyman.

>> No.11635034

>>11633905
>implying no non-Christians would post this

>> No.11636070

She still uses discord regularly
t. finding it weird to see a random e-girl posted here

>> No.11636143

Tfw I have been reading book by a orthodox monk Serafim Seppälä called Freedom. Now I'm intrested about orthodox christianity, but live in small town so I have no chance to begome ordodox.

>> No.11636171

I'm a protestant, but my grandparents are orthodox(finnish karelia). What should I read to get into orthodoxy?

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>>11632619

Nicely adapted Alex Jones rant

>> No.11636345

>>11634066
It's likely that the people who remain will be gullible idiots in denial that the Catholic Church ever had a pedophile priest mafia in its midst.

>> No.11636510

>>11633380
Physical pain? Doesn't matter except of extreme cases, you can be happy with it being around. Mental? Well sure, if you were raised to believe that our world is just sinful, inferior version of world after death, or some other thrash like that.

>> No.11636739

>>11636510
Absolute fucking retard

>> No.11637308

>>11631380
>Dude, like, you gotta abandon all those silly emotions and needs and thoughts to be truly smart
>Yeah dude, it's obvious that all an intelligent person should do is cry and moan like a nitch about the fact he's gonna die and stay inside all day
>this is real intelligence