Pstart with the Psychedelica

[Anonymous No.11628483]

Beginner psychedelic books:

Huxley - Perennial Philosophy, BNW, The Island, Doors of Perception, Heaven and Hell
Leary - The Psychedelic Experience, Psychedelic Prayers, Politics of Ecstasy
Laing - Politics of Experience and the Bird of Paradise
Baba Ram Dass - Be Here Now

History of (mostly psychedelic) drugs in America:

Stevens - Storming Heaven
Lee - LSD Dreams
Torgoff - Can't Find My Way Home
Wolfe - The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test
HST - Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

Science of psychedelics:

Psychedelic Information Theory (http://psychedelic-information-theory.com/pdf/PIT-Print-Web.pdf))
William Richards - Sacred Knowledge
Michael Pollan - How to Change Your Mind
Albert Hoffman - LSD: My Problem Child
Otto Snow - LSD
Uncle Fester's Practical LSD Manufacturing
Strassman - DMT: The Spirit Molecule
Sasha Shulgin - PIHKAL and TIHKAL (recommended for newbs) or Shulgin Index (if you want hardcore chemistry)
Grof - LSD Psychotherapy
Lilly - Programming and Metaprogramming the Human Biocomputer
Frances - Drawing it Out

Plant Medicine / Shamanism:

Pendell - Pharmako Trilogy
T. McKenna - Food of the Gods, True Hallucinations, The Archaic Revival
D. McKenna - Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss
Eliade - Shamanism: Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy
Harner - Way of the Shaman
Pinchbeck - Breaking Open the Head
Narby - Cosmic Serpent

Mystical / Occult:

Castaneda - Don Juan Series
Bergier - In The Morning Of The Magicians
Jodorowski - Psychomagic, Way of the Tarot
Crowley - Book Four: Liber ABA, Magick Without Tears, Book of Thoth, Book of Lies
AOS - Book of Pleasure
Grant - The Magickal Revival, Zos Speaks!
Caroll - Liber Null & Psychonaut
Dukes - Thundersqueak
White - Chaos Protocols

Ancient Mysteries:

Wasson - The Road To Eleusis
Allegro - The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross
Uzdavinys - Orpheus and the Roots of Platonism
Graves - The White Goddess

Schizo-core:

PKD - VALIS Trilogy
D & G - Capitalism and Schizophrenia
D - Difference and Repetition, Logic of Sense
G - Chaosmosis, Schizoanalytic Cartographies
Laing - The Divided Self
Eco - Foucault's Pendulum
Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow
RAW - Illuminatus! (Fiction) and Cosmic Trigger (Non-Fiction)
Land - Fanged Noumena
Schreber - Memoirs of my Nervous Illness

Psychedelic "literature":

Baudelaire - Artificial Paradises
Michaux - Miserable Miracle
Benjamin - On Hashish
Pickard - The Rose of Paracelsus

Eight-Circuit Model:

Leary - Info(/Exo)-Psychology, Game of Life
RAW - Quantum Psychology, Prometheus Rising
Antero Ali - Angel Tech

(Psychedelic) Philosophy:

Eliade - The Sacred and the Profane
James - The Varieties of Religious Experiences
Wilson - The Outsider, The Occult
Nietzsche - Thus Spoke Zarathustra
Debord - Society of the Spectacle, Commentary on Society of the Spectacle
Vaneigem - Revolution of Everyday Life, Movement of the Free Spirit
Baudrillard - Simulacra and Simulation, System of Objects, America
Fisher - Capitalist Realism
Tsing - The Mushroom At The End Of The World

[Anonymous No.11628540]

>>11628483
this looks to be a pretty good list. thanks for the recs, op.
know of any decent fiction about DMT or ayahuasca?

[Anonymous No.11628555]

wow a trash list of trash books for trash pseuds. I like it, I hope i keeps you drug obsessed teenagers away from this website so I don't have to deal with your compensating for not having a personality besides DUDE WEED!

[DEGENERATION STATION !VmaC06qtkU No.11628584]

Great list OP

[Anonymous No.11628615]

>>11628540
the yage letters by ginsberg and burroughs

[Anonymous No.11628621]

>>11628483
I remember when I was 16 too

[Anonymous No.11628631]

>>11628540
Wizard of the Upper Amazon for nonfiction.

[Anonymous No.11628657]

>>11628621
you're probably that one guy who never did psychedelics in his teen years out of fear and now has no way of getting some so you shit on other people who have had more/better experiences than you.

[Anonymous No.11628670]

>>11628657
>I gave myself brain damage with chemicals cooked by trailer park trash at a shitty music festival
>Because of this I have more/better experience than you
sure thing kiddo

[Anonymous No.11628677]

>>11628670
stay upset you wasted your "best" years in the mundane

[Anonymous No.11628693]

>>11628677
stay employed at mcdonalds if you can manage it when you're not too busy listening to 20 minute versions of grateful dead songs and fantasizing about the time you were a beam of light gliding across the universe ya fucking burnout degenerate

[Anonymous No.11628724]

>>11628483
bump, good list

[Anonymous No.11628733]

>>11628693
good luck being this much of a wop mate

[Anonymous No.11628732]

woah... far out man

[Anonymous No.11628745]

>>11628657
Nope, I did acid and mushrooms over a hundred times before the age of 21 in addition to trying a dozen other obscure psychs and I still do acid on occasion. but after reading a bunch of psychedelic lit I realized there was way deeper stuff out there. The very first book you listed, Huxley's Perennial Philosophy should be a hint. Despite psychs being what got him into that subject the book has nothing to do with psychedelics themselves and shouldn't even be in that list. His book despite being good is still only a shallow survey of eastern and perennial thought.

There are over a hundred thousand pages worth of Hindu, Buddhist, Daoist, Islamic and Neoplatonic texts in addition texts from other obscure schools which are all infinitely more profound and worthwhile than any book about psychedelics, and that's just counting the ones which have been translated into English. The fact that you would even include those ones in the last portion of the list under 'Psychedelic' philosophy indicates that you haven't even developed a capacity for engaging with and understanding profound ideas without somehow trying to link them to psychedelics and your experiences with them (trust me anon I did the same as a teenager). Once you read a level of study, contemplation and implementation of the aforementioned types of texts it's possible to reach a level where every waking moment from morning until night is more profound and meaningful than anything ever experienced while tripping, and you get still do psychs while going about this (without being attached to them or regarding them as overly important). Spending so much time reading different books about psychs when there is so much more profound stuff out there is pitiful IMO, but I can empathize because I did it too when I was 16.

[Anonymous No.11628791]

>>11628745
>contemplation and implementation of the aforementioned types of texts it's possible to reach a level where every waking moment from morning until night is more profound and meaningful than anything ever experienced while tripping
you really think someone would lie on the internet like that? how could you know its better have you achieved this state of being yet?

[Anonymous No.11628816]

Does anyone know a place to download the rose of paracelsus? Cant find a digital copy

[Anonymous No.11628826]

>>11628745
Projection much? These are just recommendations. No one is saying to be a burn out like you apparently used to be.

[Anonymous No.11628858]

>>11628791
>have you achieved this state of being yet?

Yes I have, but in order to reach it you have to stop being lazy and actually read and closely study thousands of pages of eastern texts in addition to acquiring self control of both thoughts+habits and also stopping all fapping/videogames/other trash. Psychedelics are just an occasionally amusing sideshow rather than being anything significant in themselves.

[Anonymous No.11628863]

>>11628816
yeah up my ass! LMAO!!!!

[Anonymous No.11628883]

>>11628858
>still uses 4chan
sure kid, I believe you.

[Anonymous No.11628896]

>20 replies
>8 posters
>that one guy who doesn't like psychedelics stays in the thread pretending to be different people
nice

[Anonymous No.11628905]

>>11628896
or more likely that one guy who does like psychedelics has given himself schizophrenia and Multiple personality disorder and is arguing among his various persona's

[Anonymous No.11628910]

>>11628693
>the time you were a beam of light gliding across the universe
This sounds frickin lit.

[Anonymous No.11628918]

>>11628910
it happened to me the first time I experienced ego death. Fucking LSD and DMT together man, heavy stuff.

[Anonymous No.11628920]

>>11628896
lol dude this is that same poster
>>11628905

[Anonymous No.11628978]

>>11628883
I mostly just come here occasionally to post and talk with other anons about the sort of texts I mentioned, but I thought I'd pop into this thread to extend a helping hand.

[Anonymous No.11628983]

Me and Nick land are among the few individuals to fully understand the implications of Deleuzean thought and achieve the BwO. It is no coincidence that we both went insane soon after. Six visits to the psych ward later after deterritorializing myself with hardcore psychedelics, I have now returned to the fold of Platonism. The ethics of difference, it would seem, end only in a padded cell or a coffin. For my mother's sake, I now adhere to virtue ethics. Kinda miss fucking bipolar scene sluts but then again that's probably how I ended up with HPV. I only hope my future wife can forgive me my immature philosophical infatuation.

[Anonymous No.11629041]

>>11628745
sounds good. Make some book recommendations then

[Anonymous No.11629060]

>>11628920
Coocoo-kachoo

[Anonymous No.11629150]

Did Heidegger do psychs? (pls no bully)

[Anonymous No.11629236]

>>11629041
Guenon can help you acclimatize to studying these texts, Coomaraswamy too. As for the actual texts; Zhuangzi, Tao Te Ching, Adi Shankara's Prasthanatrayi commentaries, Ashtavakra Gita, Avadhuta Gita, Yoga Vasistha, Avataṃsaka Sutra, Lankavatara Sutra, Lotus Sutra, Guhyagarbha Tantra commentaries, Abinavagupta's Tantrasara/Tantraloka, Mahanirvana Tantra, The writings of Ibn Arabi, Sanai's Enclosed Garden of the Truth, Attar's Conference of the Birds, Rumi's Masnavi, Kabir's poetry, Enneads of Plotinus, Philo, Meister Eckhart, Jakob Böhme, Nisargadatta Maharaj and Ramakrishna.

[Anonymous No.11629246]

>>11629236
>it's another "schizophrenic guenonfag refuses to have intelligent conversations and shills his cult books" episode.

[Anonymous No.11629425]

>>11629246
>unironically being triggered by me mentioning two of the 3 or 4 authors who were familiar with and could reference and contrast with ease most of the texts I listed among countless others in addition to standard western philosophy

[Anonymous No.11629531]

Psychedelics are the most brainlet class of drugs, prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.11629541]

>>11629531
are you counting weed as a psychedelic?

[Anonymous No.11629708]

>>11629541
a mild one I suppose, it fits better there than into any other category

[Anonymous No.11630336]

>>11628483
no Stamets?

[Anonymous No.11630387]

What is the most /lit/ drug?

[Anonymous No.11630398]

>>11630387
Jimson weed

[Anonymous No.11630457]

>using faux-spiritual enlightenmentcore tier drugs to accrue pseud points in whatever remains of your post-high school social circle
>not taking drugs that accentuate your pre-existing creativity while not turning you into a shit-for-brains preschizo who talks about nothing but a trip they had on shrooms for the remainder of their natural life

[Anonymous No.11631258]

>>11630457
>pretending to be enlightened cause too spooked by pseud-core perennialism for rational thought and hence projecting ego insecurities about irrelevant past failings of the self onto others who do not suffer any of the same problems
Really joggins the noggins.

[Anonymous No.11631412]

>>11629425
>lol triggered much?
I believe you are the one who got triggered originally by the mention of psychedelics and started shitposting insults to users in this thread. Nothing about using psychedelics or reading psychedelic literature is incompatible with reading ancient eastern and/or western philosophy or having a mystical practice and OP in fact provides a few traditionalist and perennialist books on his reading list. Not to mention, you admit to using psychedelics still here: >>11628745 so stop being a hypocrite.

[Anonymous No.11631508]

>>11629708
well, in that case, anon, I can't prove you wrong

[Anonymous No.11631522]

>>11630457
the anime pic really says it all

[Anonymous No.11631590]

>>11628896
>>11628905
>>11628920
Lost

[Anonymous No.11631619]

Tibetan Book of the Dead

[Anonymous No.11631667]

I had a fun psychedelic phase I'm only now coming out of. It was never really as good as those first few trips again.

[Anonymous No.11631743]

>start ordering LSD, 4-aco, DOB, 2c-b from DNMs at age 14
>fascinated by Huxley, Leary, and later Grof
>16, attempt to give myself psychedelic psychotherapy using carefully placed post-it notes designed to destabilize my ego
>psychosis
>parents dismayed
>hospitalized and diagnosed schizo
>later (19) rediagnosed with schizoaffective disorder
>stop taking (prescribed) antipsychotics
>watching the film Ex Machina triggers another psychotic episode
>currently (21) a ward of the state

[Anonymous No.11631747]

>>11631412
>Nothing about using psychedelics is incompatible with reading ancient eastern and/or western philosophy or having a mystical practice

I state as much in my post, the point was just that similar to Schopenhauer's quote about wasting time reading bad books and like the meme picture that shows you how much actual literature you could with the same amount of pages as the ASOFAI series, if you are spending time reading a dozen books about psychedelics, there is much better stuff you could be reading and as a user of psychedelics you might even be more receptive to it than the average person (hence possibly more likely to benefit from it); and I thought it was especially important to point that out to someone who throws a few token 'eastern' and 'perennial' texts into a psychedelic list implying that their experience with the subject only extends as far where it connects with psychedelics. It was joking around when I said I remember when I 16 too, but I was serious in that I honestly hope people fascinated with psychedelics who are open to eastern thought don't meme themselves into only staying within the limited domain of psychedelic /lit/.

[Anonymous No.11631980]

>>11631743
congratulations, you could convince yourself to be anything you wanted and you chose "mentally ill"

[Anonymous No.11631997]

>>11631747
>there is much better stuff you could be reading
debatable

[Anonymous No.11632007]

>>11631980
once they get the meds just right, I will reenter society and maybe finish the chamber pop album I've been writing

[Anonymous No.11632080]

>>11628555
Waste of trips desu

[December !!TY0+NRMplWe No.11632106]

>>11631667
It depends entirely on what new knowledge you've accumulated in between the trips.

I tend not to trip unless I've made some sort of academic advancement of comprehension.

[Anonymous No.11632142]

>>11632106
nobody cares

[Anonymous No.11632343]

>>11632106
>tripfag
>academic advancement of comprehension
stop posting

[Anonymous No.11632664]

DUDE

[Anonymous No.11632975]

>>11631997
Agreed. It's important to be well-rounded. Read a variety of subjects. This thread was obviously meant to simply give some good recommendations to those who are interested in the topic of psychedelics anyway.
>>11632007
Go for it! I'm sure you have some interesting ideas to express.

[Anonymous No.11633554]

>>11631747
I feel mostly the same but I felt like putting my wasted years of psychedelia to use by making a semi-useful chart of interesting and worthwhile books that help one go beyond the psychedelic experience. Like Zizek says we are always wearing the glasses of ideology a good comparison might be the green glasses in the emerald city in the wizard of oz books but I digress. Ordinary consciousness is enlightenment. Taking off the glasses. Psychedelics mess with the glass. Disturb them. Perhaps a better allusion would be the veil of maya. Psychedelics make the veil flutter which may help you see that there is really nothing there at all but a pair of glasses which you can take off at any time. This is actually the lesson of the Rose of a Paracelsus. Enlightenment is ordinary consciousness. Ordinary consciousness gives meaning to psychedelic consciousness. The author was a Buddhist monk at one point. As well as a classically educated Harvard grad.

[Anonymous No.11633593]

The fact that you chose a Grateful Dead pic tells me you're not the kind of psych user I'm interested in talking with
GD is the most brainlet music I can think of. It's worse than modern Uber-driver-core EDM

[Anonymous No.11633598]

>>11628816
if you find it post here plz

[Anonymous No.11633854]

>>11633593
>he's not dead senpai
laughinghippiegirls.png

[Anonymous No.11633869]

>>11633854
those retards helped set back psychedelics 50 years, fuck them

[Anonymous No.11633876]

>>11633869
THIS
Fuck hippies. Fuck those idiot braindead fuck-ups
Psychs may never recover and it's all because of their shitty "we're all connected" tripe

[Anonymous No.11633882]

>>11633869
Those "retards" put psychedelics on the map and most likely on your tongue if indirectly.

[Anonymous No.11633884]

>>11633869
>>11633876
>T-those damn boomers! It's their fault no one believes my drug addiction is actually deep and meaningful! I AM SMART

[Anonymous No.11633893]

>>11633884
this guy has no idea

[Anonymous No.11633897]

>>11633893
>Dude I'm not like those other hippies bro..... I'm like a serious philosopher. And stuff. Fuckin hippies...

[Anonymous No.11633910]

>>11633897
You got me man, I'm a big sad drug addict. Can't go more than 72 hours without getting the itchies for another hit of 'cid. My fiance has left me and my boss fired me. All because I made the biggest mistake of my life and tried lysergic acid diethylamide... my brain is all funny... I can't think straight... sores all over my emaciated body... and the worst part is I got Brain Damage from it. Really bad Brain Damage. The worst Brain Damage my doctor had ever seen. He said my cranial MRI scan looked like bleu cheese. Complete destruction up there. Stay away from the stuff, anon. DON'T end up like me.

[Anonymous No.11633962]

>>11633854
What's the difference between dead and rainbow family btw? I have heard both.

[Anonymous No.11633966]

>>11633598
Man's in prison for multiple life sentences for cid. Buy his book to help his legal funds so his lawyer can appeal his case.

[Anonymous No.11633976]

>>11633910
Mine's all in my spine. Every time I do yoga I have a kundalini experience. It's terrible, man.

[Anonymous No.11633981]

can someone tldr this 8th circuit model thing?

[Anonymous No.11633991]

>>11633981

[Anonymous No.11633994]

>>11633884
yes

[Anonymous No.11634005]

>>11633981
>>11633991

[Anonymous No.11634009]

>>11633991
>>11634005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw

[Anonymous No.11634011]

>>11633994
His credentials are about the same as JB Peterson's.

[Anonymous No.11634012]

>>11633991
how 2 8?

[Anonymous No.11634013]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRF9n7U1G3w

[Anonymous No.11634016]

>>11634009
https://youtu.be/7jNt3W7NtgY

[Anonymous No.11634018]

>>11634011
yeah and it's all his fault

[Anonymous No.11634023]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTbIu8Zeqp0

[Anonymous No.11634032]

>>11634012
https://jacobsm.com/deoxy/deoxy.org/8circuit.htm

[Anonymous No.11634040]

>>11634018
He was but a poor pawn who spoke eloquently of days beyond chess games.

[Anonymous No.11634067]

>>11634023
no thank you

[Anonymous No.11634088]

>>11634016
https://youtu.be/QWNsF-DgaYo

[Anonymous No.11634100]

>>11634067
wake up sheep

[Anonymous No.11634498]

>>11630387
Mexican brick weed

Accept your trailer trash humble beginnings and smoke the cheap mans cigar. A big baggie of dirt, seeds, stems, animal waste, urine, fertilizer, and goat semen, yours, yes yours, for only 50$ from ya mexican homie, you know big T, cop ya quick at the Walgreens senpai himme up

[Anonymous No.11634719]

>>11634013
https://youtu.be/khL3l2G9Iow

[Anonymous No.11634722]

>>11634719
I fucking love this dude

[Anonymous No.11634763]

>>11634719
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[Anonymous No.11634778]

>>11634719
>here come the hieroglyphs
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.11635012]

>everyone ITT

https://youtu.be/JKqV_ybCS-I

[Anonymous No.11635103]

>>11628483
Based list OP, is this yours?

[Anonymous No.11635213]

>>11635103
Ya. I am a veteran of the psychic wars.

[Anonymous No.11635492]

>>11635213
https://youtu.be/jGKNaIXtBZQ

[Anonymous No.11635929]

>>11634719
>the dome is in your face all the fuckin time

[Anonymous No.11635968]

>>11628978
Is it really that good? Your life, that is.

[Anonymous No.11636961]

>>11635968
Judging by the shitposting he appears unemployed.

[Anonymous No.11637009]

>>11628615
this desu

[Anonymous No.11637538]

>>11631743
Similar story here but not as detrimental
>buy psychs on dnms frequently from 2010-2012 (age 16-18)
>synthesize dmt (great experience)
>do 2ce 1-2 times a week for a year, while also doing shrooms, lsd, 2cp, 25c, dmt, ket, 4aco regularly
>2ce is the only one that makes me feel legitimately insane but keep doing heroic doses way too often because we always had an abundance in my friend group and I was a dumb 16/17 year old
>immediate effects on sober consciousness are noticeable but not too bad
>3-4 years later, 2015
>intense depersonalization and mild schizo tendencies surface
>flashbacks to the very specific feeling the 2ce-induced crippling anxiety are a regular occurrence
>get scared but think "crazy people dont know they're crazy...right...ha..ha"
>go off on tangents that feel normal to me but make even my oddball burnout psychonaut friends give me weird and concerning looks
>intrusive thoughts of murdering loved ones constantly occupy my brain
>shit
>go to therapy but hold back too much, they just see me as depressed and the depersonalization as a symptom of that
>refuse to go on meds
>fuck this, work through it on my own and having been doing much better this past year

Part of this is probably natural (as in, would have happened anyway), but I'm certain 2ce played a role in it, I did way too many 40+mg doses and even now 6+ years after my last dose I feel lingering effects of it

[Anonymous No.11637995]

>>11635968
Yes, psychdelics have helped me greatly but are ultimately childs-play compared to the deeper stuff. The extent to which I ever stop experiencing immense bliss and tranquillity only occurs to the degree that I make a concious destract to distract myself from what I already know.

>Inb4 someone accuses me of egosim

There's fundamentally no difference between me and anyone or anything else.

[Anonymous No.11637999]

>>11637995
*concious decision

[Anonymous No.11638933]

>>11628483
Don't forget this one.

[Anonymous No.11638939]

>>11638933
or this one, either.

[Anonymous No.11639602]

I enjoyed this book quite a bit.

[Anonymous No.11639632]

>>11639602
This one is also a good read for anyone interested in entheogens.

[Anonymous No.11639634]

Am I making the right choice avoiding McKenna? What I know about him triggers all of my "pseudoscientific loon" alarms

[Anonymous No.11639649]

>>11639634
people embellish these kinds of insights with all kinds of crap, you can read him and try to figure it out what he is really trying to say while ignoring the garbage

[Anonymous No.11639659]

>>11639634
Food of the Gods is an enjoyable read and its theory may even be 10%-25% true but most of his stuff is DUDE DMT HYPERSPACE TIMEWAVE ZERO MACHINE ELVES LMAO