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Stop reading Nietzsche

>> No.11623765

>shows up for interview from Bill Maher
>directly addresses criticisms of his views
>/lit/ so BTFO they don't talk about his interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t33pow_AK4E

>> No.11623766

ass

>> No.11623792
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>>11623756
stop butchering your statistics to fit your pathetic narrative and gb2Israel
also get antifragile or else

>> No.11623806

>>11623756
le shit nigger

>> No.11623810

A S S

>> No.11623817

>>11623765
What was the point of this interview? To stroke the dick of progressivism?

>> No.11623851

>>11623817
Exactly. Neolib propaganda. An he has the audacity to argue that we're substantively reducing poverty around the globe when the UN is so assblasted that it has to keep lowering the millennium development goals so people don't catch on to how shit everything is doing

>> No.11623863

>>11623851
so you believe that the majority of humans are living worse lives now than they were 200 years ago?

Who should I believe, a harvard professor with peer reviewed sources and statistics or some asshole on the internet?

>> No.11623878

>>11623863
he's a psychology professor not an economist or sociologist though, so studying economic development is completely outside of his domain, on this topic he's no better than a journalist, possibly worse

>> No.11623890

>>11623792
based goodpost

>> No.11624027

>>11623806
based and redpilled

>> No.11624097

>>11623756
Sounds like a plan.

>> No.11624247

>>11623863
Nice appeal to authority.

>> No.11624259

>>11623863
Better is some aspects, worse in others and exactly the fucking same in a couple more.

>> No.11624269

>>11624259
i think humans always regress to some mean, sometimes things may be better or worse, but generally it always reverts back to the center

>> No.11625060

>>11623863
t. the same guy that posts the >le top 0.5%-cited scientist in Peterson threads?

>> No.11625090
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11625090

Why do a lot of detractors of Nietzsche call him 'cold'. I don't even like Nietzsche but how do you read him and think he's emotionless?

>> No.11625138

>>11623792
Based and robust

>> No.11625155

>>11625090
BECAUSE THEY DONT ACTUALLY READ HIM
Nietzsche is like the easiest ideological scapegoat next to marx maybe

>> No.11625249

>>11625090
Is Pinker threatening to rape Nietzsche's sister?

>> No.11625265

>>11623863
>Who should I believe
You should believe the truth

>> No.11625272

>>11625265
What is truth? A mobile army of metaphors, metonyms, and anthropomorphisms—in short, a sum of human relations which have been enhanced, transposed, and embellished poetically and rhetorically, and which after long use seem firm, canonical, and obligatory to a people: truths are illusions about which one has forgotten that this is what they are; metaphors which are worn out and without sensuous power; coins which have lost their pictures and now matter only as metal, no longer as coins.

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>>11623766
>>11623810

>> No.11625281

>>11625272
Good defintion of truth, so you have to distill truth from human relations, metaphors etc.

Now go, you have a lot of work to do!

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11625290

What is Nietzsche's appeal? I tried reading TSZ and while some of his writing is legitimately good I feel like his philosophy lacks substance and feels, for want of a better word, edgy. Can somebody sell me on him?

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>>11623756
Nope!

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>>11623863
https://www.globalresearch.ca/reality-denial-apologetics-for-western-imperial-violence/32066

It's not so much that in 1818 humanity was better off than today or not but that the magnitude of lost opportunities is much more immense today and why that's so [global liberal institutions such as the IMF, World Bank, etc]. Ignorance is managed today more effectively on a scale that wasn't possible historically.

>> No.11625412

Whether or not there is net progress around the world has nothing to do with the glaring inefficiencies where there is no progress.

Mobility is down in America. There seems to be an increase in rate of inflation while wages remain flat. The government is lazy and everything they have their hands in is inefficient, bloated shit.

>>11623851
Can you link something on this?

>> No.11625425

This guy is afraid of Kevin MacDonald. What a joke.

>> No.11625426

>>11623792
Based and Phoenician

>> No.11625553

>>11623756
>>11623766
>>11623806
>>11623810
>>11624027
>>11625280
based and redpilled

>> No.11625609

>>11623792
Redpilled and definitely not arab

>> No.11625653

>>11625090
A more important question: how would based N respond?

>> No.11625880

>>11623756
Filthy kike laughs at the mention of "pedophile priests".

>> No.11626099

>>11625412
Hopefully you check in and see there before the thread gets archived. I went to bed right after posting and missed your comment.
Good, brief summary of what I"m talking about
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/0
8/exposing-great-poverty-reductio-201481211590729809.html
A more comprehensive academic source
https://www.routledge.com/products/isbn/9780754678496

>>11623863
I probably shouldn't even respond to this. I'll disregard the blatant appeal to authority. As >>11625390 points out, it's not so much that poor people are living "better" lives (in the sense that those living in penury today have microwaves and refrigerators, whereas Rockefeller and Charlemagne did not) as it is that there is an incredible cap between what we are CAPABLE of doing to help the poor and what we actually are doing to help the poor. Mass education and amble production of food was inconceivable in feudal society. These are perfectly reasonable (even easy) goals today, and yet we have not reached them.

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>>11625880
>got bummed by a priest
kek

>> No.11626901

>>11625090

Cold in that NEETzsche never had proactive vigor to look to the systematic even if only to reject it, and instead chose to ooze lukewarm diarrhea for his whole life, not even bothering to make the most basic container for it. It got cold.

>> No.11626929

>>11626901
Ah yes, examining abstractions, the very definition of ardent life affirmation.
Untermensch.

>> No.11627000

>>11626929

Small puddles caked over by an autumnal glaze, the room temperature shouldn't be this low, his soles so imbibed with shit in various stages of decomposition that he doesn't even notice stepping in them, the bits of glaze retain their structure for a few steps before being reincorporated into the fetid sediment he calls a floor and the miserable slabs of sludge that were once his feet, for an instant he remembers, but the warmth of a single tear is futile against the icy Gehenna of his excrement.

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>>11623863
The global population is way too large and growing, so that's bad.

Then again, that problem existed as a manifest problem in Europe in 1818, and as a latent problem globally. Now it is a problem that is manifest everywhere and will worsen everywhere before it gets better anywhere, except for a few low birth rate countries that aren't run by pro-immigration zealots (e. g. Japan)

>> No.11627014

>>11627000
Brutal

>> No.11627161

>>11623863
I'd address the problem with this (if it were Pinkerton, who I know dislikes the USSR) by asking him how he would react if the party suggested poverty was steadily being reduced in the USSR, which was true. You could even argue it was vastly reduced in Russia itself to a degree that even most other economies at a comparable starting point would envy. Would he say "wow, I guess we are on the perfect path?" I doubt it, because he has a vision for something more substantial. That is one of the basic criticisms of his constant meme statistic that poverty is being reduced globally, which he uses like a crutch everywhere he speaks publicly. I've probably been made aware of a dozen videos of Pinkerton referencing global poverty reduction as a reason for not doing anything different.

>> No.11628179

>everything i like is the enlightenment

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>>11624247
>>11626099
>appeal to authority
>has anything to do with quality of argument

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>>11627161
Could Pinker even hope to address Kaczynski's critique of modernity?

>> No.11628288

ass

>> No.11628351

ass..

>> No.11628386

>>11628271
Yes. You see there are less people living in poverty than there were before.

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>>11625272
no no no no no NO NO NO NO NO
I HATE POSTMODERNISM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.11628398

>>11628271
the semi-ironic veneration of this clown is the most juvenile thing about this board

>> No.11628417

>>11623792
based and Aryan

>> No.11628448

>>11628398
ok, noob

>> No.11628469

>>11628398
t. bugman

>> No.11628493

>>11623765
Do you actually watch Bill Maher? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.11628495

>>11628398
He makes interesting and substantive arguments. Not a clown.

>> No.11628525

>>11623863
So do you have to agree with all of Noam Chomsy's far left political beliefs because of his major achievements in linguistics?

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>>11628495
>He makes interesting and substantive arguments

>> No.11628572

>>11628271
ultimately, all responses to criticism of industrial consumer capitalism will be refuted by ecological collapse

>> No.11628575

>>11625090
make this an anime

>> No.11628582

>>11623765
>quantitative life expectancy, universal education, "poverty", injury is all that matters
so this is the power of liberalism

>> No.11628618

wow the whole thread of commie fuckbois is absolutely SEETHING they can't refute Pinkers facts and stats.

must feel bad.

>> No.11628648

>>11628525
TBF, a lot of those make sense too.

>> No.11628737

>>11628572
This. Pinker is so obsessed with how bad things were in the past he is unable to foresee the impending tragedies of the future. This is the failure of all neoliberals

>> No.11628853

>>11623792
Based and Strong.

>> No.11629422

>>11623792
>could make this argument while dead-lifting
Let it through!

>> No.11629429

>>11625249
wtf i love pinker now

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>>11623756
No, I won't, I still respect your work though.

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>>11623756

>> No.11629494

>>11626099
>links
Saw it. Gathered enough info for future googleing etc. Thanks

>> No.11629503

>>11623792
undeniably arab and indubitably bashful

>> No.11629775

>>11625553
>>11623756 (OP) #
>>11623766 #
>>11623806 #
>>11623810 #
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>>11625280 #

https://youtu.be/hQ1F9aVz2-E

>> No.11630155

>>11623756
I kinda like stiev pinfer.
He is brave and doesn't afraif of anything.

>> No.11630205

>>11623765
What if you'd rather live a shorter, more physically precarious life than live a meaningless life?

>> No.11630796

>>11623863
People don't just live on medical advances and neat technology alone.

https://samzdat.com/2017/06/01/the-meridian-of-her-greatness/

>> No.11630802

>>11623792
My deadlift gained 20 pounds from this post

>> No.11630836

>>11628398
post face

>> No.11630888

>>11628737
This

>> No.11631856

>>11630888
>>11628737
>This
wow so this is the power of commutards

>> No.11631874

>>11623756
>110 KB