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Was it autism?

>> No.11615713

>>11615697
yes

>> No.11616412
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11616412

>tfw relate to Holden in some ways

>> No.11616482

>relating to holden at all
>feeling anything other than pity for holden
damn nigga looks like you gonna die a virgin

>> No.11616496

>>11616412
this is an 18+ website

>> No.11616548

>>11616482
Thank God for that.

>> No.11616583

>>11616482
>not wanting to protect the innocence of children

>> No.11616592

it was pedophilia

>> No.11616749

>>11615697
it's a reminder that even in the 50s things were still so bad that people who hate the world couldn't skirt by, and things are much much worse now.

>> No.11616831
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11616831

>Be 21 years old
>Still identify with Holden Caulfield
>tfw have autism

>> No.11616838

It was judaism
>pedophilia
>rape
>juvenile narrator
All boxes checked.

>> No.11616846

>>11615697
yeah these
>>11616592
>>11616838
Salinger was a real sicko
but what do you expect from a Mason

>> No.11616851

>>11616749
best post.

>> No.11617041

>>11616838
Been years since I read it. Where is rape and paedophilia in it?

>> No.11617052

Privileged white boy, to edge for school and other people the book.

>> No.11617055

>>11617052
>boy
>not boi

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11617250

was it autism?

>> No.11618305

>>11617041
Holden Caulfield mentions that he was sexually molested on several occasions as a child when that teacher guy was about to molest him while Holden was trying to sleep.

It explains psychologically a lot of Holden's behaviour and his overprotective nature towards his sister Phoebe - he doesn't want her to experience what he went through. People erroneously believe that this means Holden is the creep/pedophile, but this is not the case, he simply wants to protect her.

>> No.11618309

>>11617250
no but in "the idiot" it was

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>>11616583
>not wanting to _take_ the innocence of children

>> No.11618377

>>11618305
why would being overprotective lead people to assume he's a creep/pedo? I mean it's not even like it's a random kid, it's his sister. Is any interest in kids considered creepy pedo shit nowadays?

>> No.11618401

>>11618377
I've never met a guy who was as obsessed with his sister as Holden was with Phoebe. Holden is also a placeholder for Salinger, who really only enjoyed spending time with young people, only wrote about young people, and did his only interview ever with some high school girl.

>tfw 2 of the best authors of the 20th century were obsessed with fucking little girls

>> No.11618421

>>11615713
/thread

>> No.11618462

>>11615697
I honestly think worse of people who liked this book.
It's possible to sympathize with Holden, but identifying with him is a sign that you've fucked up your own life.

>> No.11618904

>>11618462
>>11616482
>>11616496
spotted the plebs

>> No.11618909

>>11618401
>Salinger >best
no nigga

>> No.11618930

>>11618401
holden was obsessed with the purity of children, that is a very prominent theme in the book, i think to do with his brother dying, and naturally that compounds with his affinity for his sister

>> No.11618979

>>11618904
spotted the child

>> No.11618987

>>11618462
Holden is OG and had the right idea.

Adulthood is a fuck, phonies can suck my dick.

>> No.11618993

>>11618462
i didn't sympathize with holden even as a teenager, because i never got the 'phony' thing. I mean yes social interaction is 'phony' but it's a necessity to make things run smoothly and there are plenty of honest moments as well.

I did really empathize with him though, i saw him as a kind of broken person who wanted a beautiful world that doesn't exist, and I liked him and the entire book a lot. I really get where he's coming from, i think he just obsesses over it because he's not well. He ends up in a mental institution at the end, so it's clear it's not just teenage angst, the kid is genuinely fucked up. I just felt very bad for him

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>>11616831
>25

>> No.11618997

>>11618979
Wouldn't have it any other way, my man.

>> No.11619012

>>11618994
>23
>know perfect kids
>know their innocence will slip away from them and dread the day it happens

>> No.11619017

>>11619012
>perfect kids
you don't know any kids at all then. Kids are little demonic-angelic schrodingers, it's like they are all bpd chicks except amazingly dumb and uninformed as well

>> No.11619024

>>11619017
you probably have a dysgenic family. Plenty of kids with bad dispositions exist. the ones i'm close to are all angels, any pouting comes from a pure place.

However i'm sure they have been thoroughly subverted by modernity already, it just hasn't manifested itself yet.