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11601315 No.11601315 [Reply] [Original]

How did Dante write the comedy?

What kind of paper did he used?

Had he enough material to make sketches and scribble lines of verse that he might not end up using?

Where there some form of rhyme dictionaries already in that time?

How long it took him to write?

Is there any report of his routine (what time he rise, how many hours he read, what he read, where he sit down to write)?

>> No.11601367

>>11601315
Abstained from sex and masturbation. Celibacy can move mountains.

>> No.11601450

>>11601315
not much is known except that he was a confirmed /r9k/ poster

>> No.11601488

>>11601315
This is such a stupid thing to ask. I mean, what are you even trying to accomplish by this? Do you think that if you follow exactly what this master of verse did you too will be able to write like me? Just stop, it's pointless. Dante was a genius and could've used toilet paper to write the Commedia, and it would still be better than anything you, or any 21st century writer, or Cavalcanti would be able to write.

And it doesn't matter what my routine was anyway since it would be impossible to replicate nowadays. Just give up asking about it.

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>>11601488
>my

>> No.11601817

>>11601315
The man read incessantly for a while before he started writing much

>> No.11602842

>>11601315

bump

>> No.11602890

>>11601450
I browsed that for the first time today. Went there through catalog, then looked at default page, then back to catalog and decided I will never return.
People who post there should be shot.

>> No.11602904

>>11601488
this is a schizo huh

>> No.11603495

>>11601315
It took him a long time to write it.
Some of it, almost all of Paradiso, he wrote in exhile.
I recommend you read Michele Barbi's "Life of Dante". It's a small book but gives you a good overview of his work.

>> No.11603500

>>11601315
He didn't write. He dictated.

I think only his signature is the only surviving piece of his handwriting.

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>>11601488
>My

>> No.11603629

>>11601315
We won't make your homework, Kevin.

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>>11601488
>And it doesn't matter what my routine was anyway

>> No.11605682

>>11603500

Although there isn’t any surviving Dante manuscript I doubt that he dictated the work. He most probably wrote it, then maybe after that dictated, but not simply came up with it directly in his head and then look for a scribe.

I need a source on your claim.

>> No.11605698

>>11601367
you tell yourself that, you impotent subhuman.

>> No.11605703

>>11601315
this short video should answer your questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCpiG5cT6gw

>> No.11606532

>>11605682
I remember reading about it.
Let me look for it.

>> No.11606615

>>11606532

Thank you

>> No.11606632

>>11605698
>t. Masturbation addict justifying his habit
Not impotent. If I didn't abstain, I would be doing it at least twice a day. All it does is leave me fatigued and pollutes my mind with sexual thoughts which subdues creativity.

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>>11601488
well versed my friend

>> No.11606664

>>11605703
>Clicked
And I'm by no means dissapointed

>> No.11606672

>>11601488
s-sorry M-Mr. Alighieri

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>>11601488
Someone make a Dante version of this with this post.

>> No.11607566

>>11606615
I need to make a deeper investigation because I can't recall right now the source.
Tomorrow or the day after tomorrow I will make a thread with the name "composition of the Commedia".
Please don't think I'm trying to get away from backing my claims, but I need to review my reading on the subject before quoting specific sources.
Believe me, I enjoy these conversations and had the great fortune of having an italian medievalist as a teacher at a seminar on Dante during college.
He provided us with lots of source material.

>> No.11607826

>>11607566

Thank you so much, Anon, really, thank you. If your teacher can point us out some bio books about Dante and critical studies of the Comedy I would be very grateful.

Take your time, there’s no hurry.

>> No.11607867

>>11601367
He made glorious 'metaphysical' love to Beatrice at least three times a day throughout the duration of his life.

>> No.11608165

>>11607826
Right now I can tell you Michele Barbi's "Life of Dante" is a good one.
Also Auerbach's "Dante, poet of the secular world" is another good one, though it focuses more on ideological rather than philological aspects. He also has two essays on his book "Mimesis" about the Commedia, both worth reading.
In the spanish language realm, there's a famous Dantologist called Angel Crespo. He's aan argentinian poet and his translation is one of the best in spanish. He has a book called "Dante and his work" (Dante y su obra). I recommend you also read that one.
Borges has a book called "Nueve ensayos dantescos". That's a very good book, if you like Borges. To me it's a perfect combo.
You could also read Dante's letter to Can Grande de la Scala, where he explains to him how the Commedia can be read through different layers of meaning. It is an unbeatable guideline for getting through his work.

I will get back to you later with the affair of his composition and writing method.

>> No.11608191

>>11607826
>>11608165
I forgot Mandelstam's "Conversation about Dante".

That's a great poet discussing the greatest poet.

>> No.11608273

>>11601450
What's it like? I'm not dealing with them.

>> No.11608774

>>11601488
i look for the baddest anons all around, are you the one im looking for

>> No.11609015

>>11601367
Why do Americans seem to think Dante was a celibate? Where on earth did this myth come from?

Dante was a man of the world, a politician, an ambassador, a friend of political conspirators and an enemy of pope Boniface. He was married and had kids, one of whom was the first to write a book explaining the more obscure points of the Commedia. According to Indro Montanelli, he had a few lovers too.

Dante was so much a man of the world that he died because of it, due to having contracted a disease (cholera, if I remember it well) while on a work-related travel.

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>>11601488
>my routine

>> No.11609137

>>11601488
Dante I'm really enjoying your Inferno but sometimes it's really a bit too much cryptic