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11600243 No.11600243 [Reply] [Original]

Imagine a story where the main character would know he is in a book, and would know that the narrator is controlling everything. So he would get madder along the story goes and would try to kill himself to stop all of this, but the narrator would keep saving him to not let the story end...

>> No.11600250

sounds like a certain italo calvino novel

>> No.11600264

>>11600243
stolen. thanks OPa!!!

>> No.11600266

>>11600250
Don’t know this author but i did a quick research on him, his work seems great! Thank you!

>> No.11600285

>>11600264
Which book? This is super great if i can read that kink of story!

>> No.11600327

Do you think the protagonist would begin to hate the narrator? What if the protagonist was aware that there was a part of his existence where he was not caught within some narrative structure and realizes that the narrator does not know all he should know? That the narrator's omniscience is defined by the parameters of the narrative? Can a main character be smarter than the narrator - or at least more well informed? How would this be relayed by a narrator who likely does not believe he is less informed than the protagonist? What would it be like to have one's existence developed and articulated by an idiot?

>> No.11600343

Demoralizing. It would be demoralizing. Some childish hack has superseded God in one's life.

>> No.11600440

>>11600264
You want to make a remake of the movie "Stranger than Fiction"?

>> No.11600451

>>11600327
Yeah deep, but maybe this side of the story could be narrated only in the end of the book, because the narrator would in the beginning narrate only what the main character wants him to narrate. Then the narrator would see the trick and would abandon.

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>>11600343
It's beautiful isn't it? Literally peak post-modern

>> No.11600512

But the character is written by the author, same with the narrator, so essentially neither of them are actually making their own choices, only the author.

>> No.11600535

>>11600512
So the narrator and the main character would «fight» each other in the beginning and in the end figure out that they both are controled by the author.

>> No.11600564

Mist of Unamuno

Sorry bro, your idea is not new

>> No.11600596

This is a pretty cool idea depending on how its done, imagine the character randomly deciding on a new banal subject of interest to speak to his friends about, just to make the author research it until he's bored, deciding how much control he needs to exert over his character, to maintain the illusion of control that's really all the character has in the first place.

just don't take it to it's logical conclusion and realize that you're just a character that someone is writing

>> No.11600628

>>11600440
That's the name. It was pretty good if I recall. >>11600243 feel free to remake this movie.

>> No.11600725

>>11600512
From what life has shown me, I find your statement about the author's final authority to be false. Most authors are scribes rather than self-possessed architects of fate. Plagiarists even. Where did all these prestigious sheep come from? Why are none of them able to direct their own worlds but wait, wait for you to act?

Again, most demoralizing.

>>11600596
A lot of creatives are writing me. A muse can actually determine a lot about a creative by how the muse finds himself splintered into multiple characters.

Don't be delusional, anon. You don't write real people into existence. My god, the conceitedness. You copy the world about you and peddle it as your own. That's it. And what happens when your muse goes on strike?