TOLSTOY VS DOSTOEVSKYY

[Anonymous No.11597080]

Who is better and why?

[Anonymous No.11597113]

>>11597080
Prefer Dosto by far, but overall Tolstoy has the greater legacy.

[Anonymous No.11597125]

Unrelated but Dosto's books had better titles.

[Anonymous No.11597167]

>>11597080
Dostoevsky when you're an angsty teen. Tolstoy when you're an adult.

[Anonymous No.11597171]

>>11597167
>Dosto btfos angsty teens in multiple novels

"Dostoyevsky is for angsty teens"

[Anonymous No.11597174]

>Tolsoyboy

[Anonymous No.11597178]

Tolstoy is better for those who are interested in literature for literature's sake and Dost is more for philosophical/theologically minded reads.

[Anonymous No.11597179]

>>11597080
Dosto is a more interesting characters. Tolstoy was basically a rich Russian hippie

[Anonymous No.11597207]

>>11597080
They're both fantastic, yeah? I probably enjoy Dostoevsky slightly more because I am, like most edgelords, a closeted sentimentalist. Tolstoy has never made me cry, though he has made me shiver with awe

[Anonymous No.11597255]

>>11597080
Tolstoy’s style is more quiet and contemplative. When I read him I feel close to beauty and goodness. And he writes small, seemingly uninmportant moments that I remember long time after and I get chills.
Dostoyevsky in the other hand spots the cynicals and nails him; Stavroguin, Raskolnikov, Ivan, etc. He makes troubled characters in a way that no one else does. I guarantee /lit/ is Ivan Karamazov central. Also when I read him I fly through his books and never get bored.

[Anonymous No.11597284]

>>11597171
That's why you read it as an angsty teen, ya dolt.

[Anonymous No.11597349]

>>11597284
>people inherently seek out books which disconfirm their prejudices

[Anonymous No.11597359]

>>11597349
He meant that angsty teens read books that BTFO edgy teens because they see themselves as above the masses

[Anonymous No.11597371]

let me get on my skyys

[Anonymous No.11597373]

>>11597207
>Tolstoy has never made me cry, though he has made me shiver with awe
which Tolstoy book did this?

[Anonymous No.11597526]

>>11597167
>Be Tolstoy
>Age
>Dismiss all previous work
Makes ya think

[Anonymous No.11598078]

>>11597255
>Ivan Karamazov
u wot m8 i'm a dmitri
...and then I will disappear.

[Anonymous No.11598085]

Both are great is their own way.
Stop whit the video game logic of X vs Y.

[Anonymous No.11598086]

*stabs you*

[Anonymous No.11598304]

>>11598086
Wew lad. Russians don't fuck around.

[Anonymous No.11599080]

>>11597080
Which Dostoyevsky book I should start with? Crime and Punishment? The Brothers Karamazov?

[Anonymous No.11599085]

>>11598086
>>11598304
I think it's fake. I google that exact headline and get no returns.

[Anonymous No.11599091]

>>11599080
Start with Notes then Crime then Brothers then Demons

[Anonymous No.11599232]

Tolstoy has the mentality of those who commit atrocities.

[Anonymous No.11599565]

Dostoevsky is a superior artist but Tolstoy is a superior writer.

[Anonymous No.11599591]

>>11599085

[Anonymous No.11599721]

I just don’t get Tolstoy. I’m trying. But it’s wooden.

[Anonymous No.11599730]

Anna Karenina is the best book I've ever read but I haven't read TBK yet so I guess I'll get back to you after that

[Anonymous No.11600046]

dosto like gets me man

[Anonymous No.11601477]

only read crime and punishment

and tolstoy was aristocratic

so dosto of course :)

[Anonymous No.11601487]

>>11599721
Try the short stories called Master and Servant, and The Devil.
Right now I'm reading Anna Karenina, it's really good but from time to time Tolstoy runs crazy and decides to waste a page or two on stupid descriptions of nature.

[Anonymous No.11601528]

i've only read Dosto (C&P, Notes from Underground and The Double.)
Today I bought Brothers Karamov and War & Peace so i can see for Tolsto compares :))

[Anonymous No.11601539]

>>11599080
I started w Crime & punishment then read Notes and i think that was a good place to begin desu

[Anonymous No.11601574]

>>11600046
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.11601584]

Someone post the Chad vs Virgin meme for these two, I know you have it.

[Anonymous No.11601592]

>>11601528
the editing on this photograph is disgusting

[Anonymous No.11601681]

>>11597080
Tolstoy is a better writer, Dostoevsky is a better thinker. Tolstoy is more pleasant, Dostoevsky is more worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.11601839]

>>11599565
>>11601681
??????

[Anonymous No.11601857]

>>11601487
>stupid descriptions of nature
Hey, don't say that. Those are some of my favorite passages.

[Anonymous No.11601864]

>>11599080
They're both fine, I read Brothers Karamazov first, then C&P. Just keep in mind that Brothers Karamazov is a larger time sink and takes some dedication.

[Anonymous No.11601880]

>>11601864
(That is to say, it takes a long time to set up before the story gets truly interesting.)

[Anonymous No.11602035]

>>11599080
Notes from the Underground

[Anonymous No.11602372]

>>11598086
You fucking with me right this is like if 4chan leaked out of the internet

[Anonymous No.11602427]

Hard to compare, I've only read novellas and short stories by Tolstoy which I adored but I've read most of Dostoevsky's novels and they've all been excellent but with flaws.

I've found Tolstoy the more enjoyable of the two but if I read his novels I'd probably place them more equally.

[Anonymous No.11602496]

>>11597080
Sometimes I imagine breaking plates and chairs over Tolstoy's head.

[Anonymous No.11602504]

>>11599080
Demons, go all in FEEL THE FIRE

[Anonymous No.11602603]

>>11601477
Read BrothersK and please calm down on the imagefagging, you're doing Ridley Scott a disservice.

[Anonymous No.11603908]

>>11598086

the follow up is even better
>reads C&P once

[Anonymous No.11605259]

>>11597080
Dostoevsky for when you want to learn about individuals
Tolstoy for when you want to lean about groups


Dosto: Psychology
Tolstoy: Sociology

[Anonymous No.11605302]

>>11601857
ahah, sorry. I must admit that reading Anna Karenina really wipes out most of my preconceived ideas about Tolstoy. He definitely deserves as much respect as Dosto.

Also there's one point that goes unnoticed too often : Dosto was insane. That is, mentally ill. He was crazy. Several things that we relate to "genius" are indeed consequences of plain and simple insanity.

[Anonymous No.11605333]

They're just so different. Tolstoy's characters are stable and realistic, more like people who you could meet in every day life. Dostoyevsky's characters are 50% bat shit insine and exaggerated, which is also his appeal. Tolstoy was rich, Dosto was poor and traumatized. Tolstoy was more of a spiritual guru who had a lifelong battle with existential questions and attempted to solve these. Dosto was severely traumatized, drank and gambled a lot and found peace in Orthodox Christianity. I think Tolstoy was born to be a god tier writer, a real natural talent and an extremely intelligent man. Dostoyevsky was moulded into becoming a god tier writer after he went to hell (mock execution and Siberia for seven years) and came back. Dosto is the living evidence that severe suffering can make someone into a great artist.

[Anonymous No.11605636]

>>11597255
>/lit/ is Ivan Karamazov central
No. /lit/ is Smerdyakov

[Anonymous No.11605642]

Chekhov

[Anonymous No.11605823]

I am not Russian so I cannot judge either on their prose, but one thing I can say that Tolstoy does better is characters. I have only read his War and Peace but I have never encountered such lifelike characters anywhere else

[Anonymous No.11606313]

We need Virgin vs Chad of Tolstoy and Dostoevsky.