/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11582262]

What are some works that accurately capture the 'feeling' of "Whiteness is a disease"? I'm doing a study and need to know more.

An example is this video.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m0oMrMUiWQ

No trolling, please. I'm genuinely interested since this is where 'we' are at in 2018.

LAST THREAD WAS DELETED TWICE NOW, HOWEVER THIS IS A LITERATURE RELATED DISCUSSION. WHY?

[Anonymous No.11582289]

This video is clearly satire aimed at anti-white sentiments.

Not only because the main argument - the concept of whiteness eradicating specific cultural heritages - is bullshit. White identitarian movements worldwide are all about rediscovering specific national culutural heritages, while blackness as speerheaded by Afro-Americans is all about negating these specific heritages - shit like We Wuz Kings and movies like Black Panther, that portrays African monarchs behaving like American ghetto niggers, are the most obvious examples of this tendency. The main point however that should tick you off: The power dynamics on set as portrayed in the scenes where he has doubts about what he is supposed to be saying. All of the filmmakers are black and the way they treat him is reminiscent of how black people were treated in Hollywood 50-100 years ago. He is reduced to his whiteness. In this moment it becomes clear that the filmmakers themselves are the racists that ignore all cultural specificities and use him only as a stand-in for their racist agenda.

[Anonymous No.11582296]

>Italian
>Irish
>White

[Anonymous No.11582298]

>>11582262
Mods, please delet this. It's lazy /pol/ bating and it's geting on my nerves

[Anonymous No.11582303]

>>11582289
>This video is clearly satire aimed at anti-white sentiments.
You're looking too far into something which is broadcast on a medium aimed at the lowest common denominator. Most people watching this won't know any of the related cultural phenomena which happened in the last five years - they'll just be watching it for the self-deprecating, virtue-signalling jokes: "lol look at us Whites! We ruin everything hahah! (Meanwhile literally every invention, discovery, advancement, or progress made in the last 3000 years is because of us - oh and all other cultures are absolutely horrible, barbaric, backwards and there's a reason we 'appropriate' them)".

[Anonymous No.11582307]

>>11582298
No, it isn't. Try reading.

[Anonymous No.11582311]

>>11582303
True. I thought about that, too. I am convinced that this video is a satire of the way issues of race identity are handled in popular media but most people watching it will not be able to see this - they will think of it as genuine and they will probably affirmatively enjoy it. A frightening perspective.

[Anonymous No.11582314]

>>11582289
>clearly satire
Lol no
>"Whiteness is a disease"
>Its just a joke guys haaa

[Anonymous No.11582319]

>>11582289
Not so sure about that. Certainly a valid interpretation, but it's vague enough to lend itself to both ends of the spectrum of racial interpretations. Much like that Childish Gambino video that got spammed all over the internet a few months ago. It's lazy twitter-symbolism. Nicely produced, but the actual discourse is vague and this is probably deliberate.

[Anonymous No.11582324]

The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison

[Anonymous No.11582332]

Can someone please answer OP's question?

>>11582314
Are you saying racism is off-limits for satire?

>>11582319
I think it's pretty clear, but it will be perceived as genuine by most people. The director scene makes it clear. Same goes for the Gambino vid, which is so obviously a critique of mainstream American nigger culture - it's just a tad too smart for American niggers to grasp, so they think of it as a celebration.

[Anonymous No.11582334]

>>11582319
The people who is created for don't read into it how he's claiming at all. They take it at face value. It's just something they will reference in another interaction, they might try meme that "albinism genetic" whatever the fuck.

They said, "Whiteness is a virus", that is what they will run with. They will not apply some bizarre justification as he is trying to claim. They will literally see this and say, "Yeah, white people are a disease!"

[Anonymous No.11582345]

>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.11582351]

>>11582332
sure, OP's a faget

[Anonymous No.11582357]

>>11582332
>The director scene makes it clear
I don't know about that. Do you mean the one in which the character director speaks to Jon Hamm, or the scene at the end in which the actual director is told to focus less on "whiteness" and more on "blackness". I think if anything the scene at the end shows the same type of slam-woke thinking, regardless of whether the videos satirises black racists or not, simply by virtue of validating and perpetuating the "blackness" monolith concept.
Again, vague-click-baity-twitter-tier video.
>>11582334
I was more interested in authorial intent, rather than public perception.

Maybe some insight into the the director/writer's previous work would shed some light on this.

[Anonymous No.11582359]

>>11582311
>everybody's stupid but me

must be rough

[Anonymous No.11582360]

>>11582332
Not at all, but within this context, and the *intention* of the piece does not matter, really. It will be taken at face value. Not that some jokes don't have a hint of truth to them, etc, they do, but even so... you know when something is meant as a joke, generally.

Imagine Goebbels just stood up and said, "It was all satire" re his propaganda, doesn't matter does it? Is it too much of a stretch to say that this video may cause death? It could certainly influence someone in that way. They are literally saying "Whiteness is a virus", a quote from the video: "Accept your cultures and races mortality", or whatever it was. What the fuck is funny about that, to anyone?

Comedy is comedy, you can generally sense when someone is joking. Even the harshest stand ups... You might go watch a stand up comedian who says harsh shit, but you know he's a comedian.

Is this video a 'joke', is it even meant to be 'comedy'?

[Anonymous No.11582363]

>>11582360
>doesn't matter does it
no, because they actually killed a bunch of people and were earnest, there's a difference

[Anonymous No.11582369]

This is some dehumanizing shit. But I guess thats le point its le satire hehe

[Anonymous No.11582374]

>>11582369
go be butthurt on pol i guess

[Anonymous No.11582375]

>>11582363
You think this video and the general 'idea' of the video won't get people killed? You think people haven't already been killed? Take a look at SA, if you doubt.

This is Nazi Germany tier levels of propaganda.

Consider this picture:
The video is number 4.

[Anonymous No.11582378]

>>11582375
uh no it's just a video on HBO.

[Anonymous No.11582381]

>>11582374
>>11582351
Awwww look at him

[Anonymous No.11582385]

>>11582381
stay assblasted, /pol/yp

[Anonymous No.11582388]

>>11582378
>Uh no its just a propaganda piece put out by a billion dollar corporation who have enough to fund this so as that it is everywhere
What's the difference? It's propaganda

[Anonymous No.11582389]

>>11582357
Hmm. I mean the scene in which the director speaks to Jon Hamm. Perhaps it is my own cultural background as a non-American but I can't imagine this scene to be anything other than satire - the power structures are so obvious, the things the black director says to him are so obviously bigoted - but perhaps I'm just a little too naive. Perhaps the creators really think of the director's words as justified.

>>11582359
You can't imagine :(

>>11582360
Jud Süß doesn't have a scene in which the 4th wall is broken and a Jew explains the problems with the stereotype he is forced to enact, how Jews are culurally diverse etc, only for the director to explain the political agenda of the film.

[Anonymous No.11582391]

>>11582385
Awww hehe preripped skinny jeans i'm a rebel now hehe i bought 100 dollar converse shoes because im a rebel hehe

[Anonymous No.11582393]

wew

[Anonymous No.11582394]

>>11582388
Because HBO isn't looking to get a bunch of people rounded up and killed for the purpose of more living space. It's just a satire with a political agenda you don't like, stop whining.

[Anonymous No.11582395]

Why do people conflate American culture with "whiteness"? I am an immigrant to the US and I saw that what most determines "whiteness" is not the color of your skin but the bank account of your parents. And I am also not white, btw.

[Anonymous No.11582398]

>>11582391
okay

[Anonymous No.11582402]

>>11582389
I don't know what you are referencing unfortunately so I cannot comment on that specifically

[Anonymous No.11582403]

>>11582311
You would have to be completely delusional to believe this

[Anonymous No.11582406]

>>11582403
you don't get it, he's from pol and has been properly redpilled to see the truth!

[Anonymous No.11582407]

>>11582394
You mean the owners of HBO, in your opinion, don't? Do you have any proof of this? Because if anything this video is enough to say they don't mind funding propaganda that is labelling a race a "virus".

I'll wait

[Anonymous No.11582409]

>>11582395
People don't conflate American culture with whiteness, at least non-Americans don't. We conflate it with melting pot race ideology and capitalism.

>>11582403
To believe what?

[Anonymous No.11582411]

>>11582406
Read what you're replying to retard, lmao. You're so upset but why?

[Anonymous No.11582412]

>>11582407
It's a free country man, people can say what they want.

HBO has never made it it's mission statement to kill people, do YOU have any proof that they are?

[Anonymous No.11582414]

>>11582406
I'm not from /pol/. I'm from [s4s].

>>11582402
It's a nazi anti-Jewish propaganda film, that's all you need to know.

[Anonymous No.11582419]

>>11582411
poltards won't stay on their containment board

>>11582414
Jud Suss is tits, MUCH better than the english one

[Anonymous No.11582421]

>>11582262
asd

[Anonymous No.11582423]

>>11582409
To believe that it could be some sort of super meta satire behind 3 layers of subtle irony

It’s just an angry nigger who went to art school and was picked up by some Jews who want to prep to genocide white people in the next 40 years

There’s 0% comedy in that video. The Jew hides behind the black man because you can’t attack the black man due to slavery. They use them as a propaganda shield while they destroy the west and prepare for white genocide

[Anonymous No.11582424]

>>11582412
No, they just funded propaganda that is literally on the way to genocide instead. Hmm but their title isn't 'politician' so I guess it doesn't matter ha!

[Anonymous No.11582426]

>>11582423
at last... I truly see

[Anonymous No.11582429]

>>11582357
>Maybe some insight into the the director/writer's previous work would shed some light on this.

Welp, just had a look at the creator's (Terence Nance) twitter feed. The video is certainly NOT satirising black-woke culture and how its become racist. It is actually to be taken at face value. Wow.

[Anonymous No.11582430]

>>11582419
I don't think anyone is a 'poltard' in this thread
You're just a raging limp wristed weakling who can't handle other ideas

Go back to your safespace and fuck off

[Anonymous No.11582432]

>>11582424
It's just a gag bro. Poor whitey can't handle being called out lol this is like a shoah but for white people!

[Anonymous No.11582434]

>>11582432
Goebbels was just a gag too in that case, because tell that to the whites being murdered in South Africa right now

[Anonymous No.11582436]

>>11582430
this is a /pol/thread

>You're just a raging limp wristed weakling who can't handle other ideas
when the whole point is some nazi whining because HBO aired some political things he disagreed with

get a grip

>>11582434
No, Goebbels was serious and a massive cunt.

[Anonymous No.11582441]

>>11582436
>genocidal rhetoric is a normal political opinion why do you agree with it

Be honest, are you a Jew or a nigger? Both probably

[Anonymous No.11582442]

>>11582436
you're mad and not contributing to the discussion other than saying "Hurr durrr le POL tard xD"
fuck off gimp

[Anonymous No.11582451]

>>11582441
I think you're taking it a little too seriously, it's just a prank bro. HBO isn't setting up rallies to try to topple the government and make way for the ZOG. Im white and technically Catholic.

>>11582442
Im not mad, you fags just need to stay on your own board

[Anonymous No.11582455]

>>11582442
He’s a minority and he liked the video, simple as that

The establishment is prepping for violence against white people. They’ve been doing it for a while. Doesn’t surprise me they released this the same day they started deplatforming right wing media off of the internet

[Anonymous No.11582459]

>>11582451
HBO doesn’t do rallies, they make propaganda

The video is meant to inspire rallies and violence against white people. You’re not taking it seriously enough, or your a nigger.

[Anonymous No.11582462]

>>11582451
Ofc not, the neolib cabal has their claws in deep. This is just to remind you to stay in line and not question anything.

[December !!TY0+NRMplWe No.11582464]

Is there any reason this thread is still up?

Maybe the mods and jannnies are third worlders.

[Anonymous No.11582465]

>>11582459
no, they make TV shows

[Anonymous No.11582469]

>>11582462
proofs?

>>11582464
>tripfag

[Anonymous No.11582470]

>>11582465
>tv shows aren’t propaganda

[Anonymous No.11582471]

>>11582409
>People don't conflate American culture with whiteness, at least non-Americans don't.
Do you mean that the so-called "white" behavior of Americans could be also seen in Europe?

[Anonymous No.11582472]

>>11582464
Because it's literature related. Can you not read? Fuck off out of the thread if you don't like the discussion

[Anonymous No.11582473]

>>11582470
nope

[Anonymous No.11582475]

>>11582465
>Tv shows can't be propaganda
Hmm I guess movies can't be either then! Wow! That changes a lot!

Who owns HBO? It's not a robot, is it? it's not no one.

[Anonymous No.11582477]

>>11582472
except it isn't

[Anonymous No.11582480]

>>11582477
Except it is. Can you not read? Then why are you here?

[Anonymous No.11582483]

>>11582475
I didn't say that, but you seem to be under the impression that all TV shows are propaganda

stay assblasted, lmao

[Anonymous No.11582487]

>>11582480
to try to drive faggots like you off the board

[Anonymous No.11582491]

>>11582487
I've been here longer than you, moron. It's time for you to fuck off.
>>11582483
Not all of them, but this is.

[Anonymous No.11582495]

>>11582491
>but this is.
no, it's just a gag with a political message you don't like.

[Anonymous No.11582496]

>>11582483
Most television shows are propaganda of some kind

You didn’t read Edward Bernard did you. Hollywood was designed to push culture in the direction they want it to go. It was always propaganda, and now it’s in overdrive

[Anonymous No.11582501]

>>11582496
>and now it’s in overdrive
oh no!!!

[Anonymous No.11582503]

I wonder how can anyone be white and leftist at the same time when the left clearly hates whites

[Anonymous No.11582508]

>>11582503
Imagine coming to /lit/, where people actually read, to push some half-assed lamebrain bullshit like that

[Anonymous No.11582511]

>>11582508
>/lit/, where people actually read

[Anonymous No.11582513]

>>11582511
yep

[Anonymous No.11582514]

>>11582503
They have to make up excuses about how it’s “just a joke” or it’s “totally meta!!”

To be a white leftist at this point is to be manically suicidal

[Anonymous No.11582521]

>>11582514
It is just a joke

[Anonymous No.11582528]

>>11582495
So was Hitler

[sauce(dead)pan No.11582529]

>>11582521
does it really mean anything

black people did this twenty years ago.

[Anonymous No.11582533]

>>11582528
Yes, but Hitler was an idiot

[Anonymous No.11582535]

>>11582514
This. If I'm not mistaken its like the Freudian death drive or w.e. he said but its somehow extended to they want to be totally wiped out genetically now. they don't reproduce, they want to disappear completely

[Anonymous No.11582536]

>>11582533
Hm. Explains why he went from living in a homeless shelter to running his country to becoming the most infamous man in history

Woah so deep!

[Anonymous No.11582539]

>>11582536
yeah pretty much

[Anonymous No.11582540]

>>11582262
E. Michael Jones, because he tells you that "whiteness" literally doesn't mean anything and these are terms that started after WWII and with the destruction of urban environments in America.

[December !!TY0+NRMplWe No.11582543]

>>11582472
No it's not.

Are you really going to tell me that it's possible to write a piece of literature to the quality of that which is routinely discussed here (not well, but discussed at least) which centers on the idea that white people are a disease?

You know what, I'll grant you it might exist; this fabled book.

But I haven't seen it presented.

Go and fetch it for me, peasant.

[Anonymous No.11582546]

>>11582495
>youre a virus

Wow what a gag

[Anonymous No.11582553]

>>11582546
It's rough being white these days

[Anonymous No.11582556]

>>11582553
Hi Tyrone

[Anonymous No.11582561]

>>11582556
Take the redpill out of your ass

[Anonymous No.11582594]

>>11582514
It really is a big problem with the left now. They just cant act genuine and hide behind snark and lairs of irony.

[Anonymous No.11582597]

>>11582543
I'm asking for works, never said works that I would consider good, or you would consider good, or whatever.

[Anonymous No.11582604]

>>11582543
Isn't that what Genesis is about?

[December !!TY0+NRMplWe No.11582612]

>>11582597
Well, I can field that.

No.

In the entire history of the human race, no person, non-white, white, male, female, genius or idiot has ever constructed an argument, with even the minimal necessary competency to be taken as anything other than a degenerate joke by a degenerate joke of a person or a degenerate joke of a people, as to the implicit or explicit inferiority of the European Caucasian White race in contrast to any other peoples.

Every single second that this thread exists is a testament to the god almighty impotent fury of the leftist cultural Marxist postmodernist ideologues who have invested this once great website, and once competent moderation team.

[Anonymous No.11582620]

>>11582612
I'm the opposite, you moron. I'm asking for works which I'll likely disagree with, but I'm asking regardless. Wtf are you babbling about pseud

[Anonymous No.11582622]

when's white genocide finally gonna happen
sick and tired of paleskins desu

[December !!TY0+NRMplWe No.11582623]

>>11582620
The answer is no.

You can't capture that which doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.11582648]

>>11582622
the left are the ones phasing themselves out, so you're only going to have the right wingers... enjoy

[Anonymous No.11582651]

>>11582622
Its already happening

[Anonymous No.11582652]

>>11582389
Jud Süß isn't satire. It's a literal parody. It's "based on" a philosemite novel (I think the novel was even written by a Jewish man but can't recall). There is definitely a heap of irony in the film version but it isn't recognized because of the disgusting nature of the regime that made it overshadowing its subversive intent coupled with ignorance of the source material.

[Anonymous No.11582653]

>>11582652
>There is definitely a heap of irony in the film version but it isn't recognized because of the disgusting nature of the regime that made it overshadowing its subversive intent coupled with ignorance of the source material.
Yes, same for OP video

[Anonymous No.11582654]

>>11582620
>>>/r/

[Anonymous No.11582659]

"Pathological whiteness" is a phrase popular among progressives, so read anything popular with them about race. George Yancy and Derrick Bell are probably as good a place to start as any.

[Anonymous No.11582664]

>>11582654
>>>/r/eddit

[Anonymous No.11582666]

>>11582664
yeah you would know ;)

[Anonymous No.11582683]

OP, /lit/ eunuchs don't want to be reminded that self-hatred and anti-white academic conformity is utterly repulsive. This would lower the chances of becoming a sheltered academic and the other sheltered academics wouldn't like it very much and think them dumbdumb!

[Anonymous No.11582694]

>>11582683
exactly, please keep it to >>>/pol/

Thx!

[Anonymous No.11582695]

This whining by white people on the internet is becoming annoying.
If whites don't care that there are literal niggers walking around in their countries, why do you think they'll be persuaded by some weird youtube video?

[Anonymous No.11582706]

>>>/pol/181444737

hmm

[Anonymous No.11582711]

>>11582694
>argh dont mock us
but its funny to.

[Anonymous No.11582712]

hmm

[Anonymous No.11582717]

>>11582711
so you admit this is a shitposting thread, got it.

[Anonymous No.11582726]

>>11582706
>>11582712
This thread was deleted twice. It predates that thread

Idiot

[Anonymous No.11582731]

>>11582717
>transgressive critique of the culture industry is only okay if it doesnt upset me
yep. your posts, and career, are shit.

[Anonymous No.11582732]

>>11582262

What are some threads that very thinly disguise that the OP is an attention-whoring /pol/poster who posts /pol/posts on other boards than /pol/ to satisfy his faggot hunger for attention, a faggot hunger for attention that is no doubt something that is constitutive of his psychology because he came to 4chan from plebbit during gamergate, and, while drunk on anonymity and how it allows him to type out "nigger" without social consequences, still crave the attention and recognition that anonymity precludes?

Indeed, what are some works that explore how a total faggot with no understanding of a culture tries and fails spectacularly to ingratiate himself in that culture with no grace whatsoever, causing nothing but ire from the members of that culture? Are there any works specifically about how a deluge of these attention-seeking faggots can ruin a culture, sort of like how the post-gamergate plebbitpol culture has ruined 4chan? Especially with the perspective of the attention-whoring ingratiating faggots believing that the ire they draw from the community they are ruining is proof that they are necessary? I'm thinking The Cossacks by Tolstoy is somewhat up this alley, but I am interested in other suggestions.

[Anonymous No.11582733]

>>11582726
yeah, because it's shitty /pol/bait

[Anonymous No.11582738]

>>11582731
Go outside.

[Anonymous No.11582747]

>>11582738
tried it, didn't like it. i'm something of a book man myself

[Anonymous No.11582758]

>>11582747
doesn't sound like it

[Anonymous No.11582762]

>>11582732
no one read this
>>>/r/eddit

[Anonymous No.11582772]

>>11582733
No but it isn't
Who the fuck are you? I think you're shitty pol bait. Go fuck your mother
>>11582758
>Le nadseees
Get out of this thread if you are not contirbuting to the discussion
Cya, bye bye, fuck off

[Anonymous No.11582777]

>>11582772
>No but it isn't
lol

don't be a nazi if you don't want to be called one, sweetie :)

[Anonymous No.11582782]

>>11582758
i mean i've read more than just the verso starter pack, you should try it. another reason you people are funny because you've all come to all the wrong conclusions almost all of the time then act haughty

[Anonymous No.11582784]

>>11582782
okay

[Anonymous No.11582837]

>>11582777
ok call me one then idc loser

[Anonymous No.11582840]

>>11582762

Nice comeback, plebbitfaggot. It actually reveals that anon is correct. "You didn't get any attention!" is the worst insult you have. Just fuck off back to /pol/eddit. You'll get all the (you)'s you so desperately lust for.

[Anonymous No.11582854]

>>11582840
Hehe