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Joyce and Wallace are just brainlet versions of this frenchman.

>> No.11580715

>>11580683
Except Joyce's writing is more complex, intelligent, and beautiful than Rabelais'?

>> No.11580723

>>11580683
You're right.

>> No.11580725

>>11580715
wrong

>> No.11580758

>>11580683
>>11580715
>>11580723
>>11580725
you guys are all based and redpilled bless kek

>> No.11581304

>>11580683
french people are just the brainlet version of Pynchon

>> No.11581967

>>11580683
nerd

>> No.11581995

>>11580683
French people are just a gayer version of British Victorian writers and honestly Emily Bronte would be a better wife than this big nose fast n bulbous lol

>> No.11582055

>>11581304
Rabelais > Pynchon

>>11580715
Most definitely not.
https://fr.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Le_Tiers_Livre/1

>> No.11582084

>>11580683
>the fight scene with hand gestures
>throwing the ram off the ship
>the lion stuffing moss into the woman's "hatchet wound" with his tale
Epic, simply epic

>> No.11582094

Everyone is just a brainlet version of a frenchman.

>> No.11582279

>>11580715
You'd know this to be wrong if you could read Rabelais

>> No.11582297

>>11582279
I have, genuinely, I enjoyed Gargantua and Pantagruel immensely, genuinely brilliant writing far ahead of its time. But genuinely don't know how anyone can read them and think they are superior to Ulysses. They lack structure and are at times rather juvenile in their fixations and thematically, which is not necessarily a bad thing, but a distinction nonetheless. There is a great mastery of language at times, but again, not comparable to Ulysses, for my money. That's ok, very little compares to Ulysses, Gargantua and Pantagruel are fantastic books nonetheless

>> No.11582304

>>11582297
So much genuinely, genuinely sorry about that

>> No.11582321

>>11582297
Joyce, too, can be rather juvenile.

>> No.11582354

>>11582297
The main cause of your preference for Joyce is sophistication. Rabelais does fine sculpting out of clay, even if he didn't shit all that clay himself. No arguing about structure, though the relevance of structure to what Joyce is doing is ever overstated.

>> No.11584069

I bet you don't even read French

>> No.11584074

anglo culture is pretty brainless.

>> No.11584119

french people continue to be dumb and plug inferior hacks
if they were born English perhaps they'd understand how dumb they sound when they make threads like these or the 'b-b-but mallarme is better than shakespeare!' ones

>> No.11584155

>>11582354
Overstated, sure, but also incredibly important to the work, in a way that magnifies the other aspects and makes them shine brighter

>> No.11584220

>>11584119
>when they make threads like these or the 'b-b-but mallarme is better than shakespeare!' ones
You're projecting here. With that being said, Mallarmé can match any 19th century poet.

>> No.11584232

>ITT: euro basedboys trying to dunk on the anglos and americans

>> No.11585799

>>11584074
compared to Francophone yes. Lusophone culture as well.

>> No.11585809

>>11580683
Pynchon is much more Rabelaisian than Wallace

>> No.11585963

>>11582055
> Rabelais > Pynchon

Oh yeah, do you think so? Can he write about a gorilla on fire who is manically smashing random percussion instruments that sound like they come from cartoons?

>> No.11585973

>>11585963
>Can he write about a gorilla on fire who is manically smashing random percussion instruments that sound like they come from cartoons?
No, but I guess Walt Disney could.

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11585984

>>11585973
I had a chuckle