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>hate irony
>love sincerity
>write the most ironic, least sincere books of all times
How ironic

>> No.11575211

>>11575200
idk man i thought the point of IJ is that it seems really ironic at first but its actually very sincere

>> No.11575212

>>11575200
This is the very reason why he couldn't finish The Pale King. He wanted to write a book about the virtues of plainness and earnesty but couldn't resist pushing his gimmicky ideas into it.

>> No.11575220

>>11575200
whats ironic about it?

>> No.11575328

>>11575211
Wrong. The sincerity was performative, making it ironic

>> No.11575334

>>11575328
wrong, he was sincerely concerned about the main themes brought up in the book, infusing them in places with humor and goofyness or exaggeration doesnt make the core sincere messages void or ironic

>> No.11575340

>>11575328
this sounds like what a 10th grade girl who just graduated with her english degree from tumblr university would say after learning the word performative....and yes im being sincere, ironically

>> No.11575342

>>11575200
I was listening to his This is Water speech the other day and there's a bit where he describes how most people's lives are boring and repetitive and going to the supermarket and how the cashier had the "ultimate voice of death". The crowd laughed at this part but you could tell in his voice that he was dead serious, which made me realize the fact that he's always been serious, in other words sincere, yet people find humor in his work somehow.

>> No.11575354

>>11575334
>>11575340
unironically wrong posts

>> No.11575441

>>11575220
this answer this, OP.

>> No.11575577

>>11575354
>unironically wrong posts
listen, I dont talk to women often so I wont call you a bitch, but, listen lady, everyone can see that you failed to properly express why I am incorrect for saying what I did to you, everyone knows and sees that you just saying "uhh, umm, huh.. err..ok... alright...um... youre...youre...wrong...ok..." is meaningless and worthless. Attempt to propose an appropriate response or stop embarrassing yourself

>> No.11575646

It's like rain on your wedding day

>> No.11575680

>>11575577
lmao

"wrong"

>> No.11575697

>>11575354
>>11575680
2 strikes kiddo
>>11575577
>Attempt to propose an appropriate response or stop embarrassing yourself
that is an underhanded slow pitch, swing batter batter

>> No.11575700

>>11575342
>which made me realize the fact that he's always been serious, in other words sincere, yet people find humor in his work somehow.
its almost like just because we are 1 dimensional brainlets doesnt mean one of the greatest writers of this century was

>> No.11575704

>>11575342
Life and the Universe are a series of absurdities.

That something is absurd is often the deepest core of a sincere sentiment.

The Butter Battle Book is a good example from children's literature. People killing and dying over fucking modest differences in opinion.

People shooting up their school because none of the girls want to fuck them.

People creating huge violent criminal empires because they had it rough growing up and wanted not just a better life for their kids but a better life than any other living thing.

>> No.11575706

>>11575700
All of his good work was done in the 90s though

>> No.11575717

>>11575700
>entirely missing the point

>> No.11575781

>>11575717
I was specifically responding to this and only this:
>yet people find humor in his work somehow.
More specifically, this:
>somehow
I bet you couldn't parse why.

I bet you couldn't tell me in what way I missed the point.

I bet your response will be proof in my favor of both those statements.

>> No.11575798

>>11575781
I misread your post, my bad.

>> No.11576504

This is why I always felt bad chuckling when I read IJ. DFW said in all his interviews that it was meant to be a sad book.

Seriously though the Father diddling his retard mask wearing daughter had me in stitches.

>> No.11576523

The only sincere thing dfw ever did was vote for reagan twice

>> No.11576539

>>11576523
Pretty sure there was another sincere thing he did near the end there

>> No.11576544

>>11576539
K E K

>> No.11577782
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11577782

>>11576504
>Seriously though the Father diddling his retard mask wearing daughter had me in stitches

>> No.11577799

>>11576539
you mean giving the wife instructions to publish his soon-unfinished book?