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11573756 No.11573756 [Reply] [Original]

the greatest philosopher of all time

>> No.11573766

>>11573756
Too leftist. Try rationality and reason. Try Culture of Critique

>> No.11573776

You don't think there will ever be someone who surpasses him?

>> No.11573786

Singlehandedly solved metaphysics without the handwaving mystic wittenstein bullshit. He is the Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle of Post-Modernism. I am deleuzeanal and the future is deleuzean.

>> No.11573791

deleuzional

>> No.11573806

>>11573766
Ewwww...eww.... culture of critique is pseudo shit tier and shouldn't be mentioned in proximity with deleuze

>> No.11573807

I read his two books about cinema a while ago, definitely among my most defiant readings

>> No.11573882

Me and Nick land are among the few individuals to fully understand the implications of Deleuzean thought and achieve the BwO. It is no coincidence that we both went insane soon after. Six visits to the psych ward later after deterritorializing myself with hardcore psychedelics, I have now returned to the fold of Platonism. The ethics of difference, it would seem, end only in a padded cell or a coffin. For my mother's sake, I now adhere to virtue ethics. Kinda miss fucking bipolar scene sluts but then again that's probably how I ended up with HPV. I only hope my future wife can forgive me my immature philosophical infatuation.

>> No.11573885

>>11573776
peterson

>> No.11573896

>>11573786
>Singlehandedly solved metaphysics without the handwaving mystic wittenstein bullshit
think you'll find late witty did that just fine

>> No.11573899

>>11573766
>implying deleuze is not hyper-rational
Isshiggidigg.

>> No.11573909

>>11573885
Going back to discredited jungism from the past is the opposite of surpassing.

>> No.11573915

>>11573882
i like this pasta. novels with this aesthetic?

>> No.11573917

>>11573896
Read Logic of Sense. And Pure Immanence. He has some insights into things even late Witty didn't quite grok...

>> No.11573927

>>11573915
Fanged Noumena
Cyclonopedia
CCRU: Collected Writings
Foucault's Pendulum
Valis
The Divine Invasion
The Transmigration of Timothy Archer
A Scanner Darkly
Maze of Death
Ubik

>> No.11574102

Does anyone have that meme that says "when you skim through anti-oedipus and decide to stop taking your anti-psychotics" and is accompanied by a picture of Tetsuo from Akira saying "Take my medicine and end up shriveled up like those kids?"?

>> No.11574939

>>11574102
How high are you, kid?

>> No.11574981
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>>11574102

>> No.11575021

In all honesty, it's Buddha

>> No.11575041

>>11573756
>Deloser
>good
read Lacan faggot

>> No.11575050

>>11575041
*schniff*

*rubs nose*

>> No.11575072

>>11573756
What he doing with Deleuze?

>> No.11575180

>>11575050
Badiou, Lacan, and Zizek are all compatible.
>>11575072
The cat?

>> No.11575198

do you think his cat was called Anti-Oedipuss?

>> No.11575223

Is Deleuze unironically worth reading?

>> No.11575232

>>11575223
Yes. Deleuze is p god tier. Even if you disagree with him at times at least his philosophy is well argued and crafted. Dude was wicked smart

>> No.11575236

>>11575232
Can I jump straight from Nietzsche to Deleuze or will I be lost?

>> No.11575248

>>11575236
Probably. If you have any experience with Lacan or Freud, I'd suggest Anti-Oedipus

Otherwise read 1000 Plateaus

Repetition and Difference is also really good but a bit more dense

If you know some Leibniz or Spinoza, then Repetition and Difference is easier. His books on individual philosophers are p good

Maybe his Nietzsche book would be a good fit for you

>> No.11575264

>>11573756
*philosophical labourer. See Nietzsche.
Unironically gonna be Plato lbr.

>> No.11575973

>>11573786

>I am deleuzeanal

We've got a fucking James Joyce over here!

>> No.11575998

>>11573756
Doesn't look like a picture of Martin Heidegger

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>>11573756
If read Deleuze makes you think it is ok to have these nails, no, thank you.

>> No.11576022

>>11576019
Holy fuck, I didn't notice that. That's fucking disgusting. How can I take his ideas seriously now?

>> No.11576516

>>11576019
If he cut his nails would he die?

>> No.11576845
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>>11573756
>he doesn't recognize the true genius behind anti-oedipus
TOP JEJ

>> No.11576867

>>11576019
>he grew his nails long because of a skin disease which left his fingertips painful to the touch

>> No.11576873

>>11573776
what about mark fisher
i mean, not surpassing him but being as great

>> No.11577911
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>>11574981
Thank you anon...now someone explain

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>>11577911
it's a commentary on the nature of desire and technology: that is, capitalism. tetsuo can't (or won't) regulate his desires, which massively exceed him. where does this ultimately take him? into becoming a gigantic monstrosity.

so one question to ask is, is this what it means to be a BwO? partly yes, partly no. the idea of deleuze's thought isn't to become monstrous, but it does mean getting around whatever internal despotism exists within the subject that prevents them from becoming what they are. for land, who is a related but slightly different figure, the social aspect of this means cybernetic capitalism. but it's also what makes tetsuo (and this film in general) an interesting one: land is a visionary, but his visions are also very dark. land's own intellectual career is kind of tetsuo-like in this way: he really does provide a good description of what would happen if you really did try to deterritorialize yourself to the extreme. hence his fetishism of capital.

tetsuo represents a danger more than an exemplary case of deleuzian thought. but akira is a complex film and can be looked at in a lot of different ways. but it's because of the question and idea of limits: what are, where are, the limits? they can't be transcendentally imposed or deduced - all of this would be negativity. but what happens in the absence of this? people go wild, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes not, and sometimes both.

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>>11577974
to put it another way, i might even say that in a sense Uncle Gilles is a little bit like galadriel, and land fails galadriel's test in the most unbelievably interesting way possible.

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>>11577911
im reading cinema right now and he only mentioned anime by proxy, that Eisenstein was influenced by the framing of mangos.
also what he has to say about the out field and wholes and whatnot is exactly what i have been thinking about for a long time.
>tfw at least as smart as deleuze

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>>11577974
>getting around whatever internal despotism exists within the subject that prevents them from becoming what they are
What are Deleuze’s ideas of becoming aimed at: is it some kind of Heidiggerian fulfilment of potential or just existentialism?
Also Akira ends very spiritually, depicting a kind of Hindu cyclical apocalypse. Does Deleuze agree with this conception? I read he was a materialist atheist.

Also I agree Land is interesting in the way insane people are. I have yet to read him but I look forward to it. Anything I should watch out for?

>> No.11578138

>>11576845
Chaosmosis is dope. What should I read next?

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>>11578084
'fulfilment of potential' isn't a bad way of describing it, although he would mean this in a sense very different from how heidegger means it. for deleuze the key figure is spinoza. the BwO, the plane of immanence and so on are ways of being/becoming spinoza's panpsychic god by way of bergson and nietzsche. so it is in a sense existential, but he's very much interested in getting around anything that derives from hegel, lacan, plato and so on. *joy* is the idea. but it is of a very particular kind. so to call him a materialist atheist is really to do him a disservice: spinoza's god *is* Nature. which means that Nature as such is something other than just being materialist-atheist.

and land isn't insane. he *went* insane, inasmuch as he was going for extreme schizoanalysis. or maybe, like so many interesting thinkers do, he just has a slightly different psychic arrangement than the rest of us. again, look at nietzsche. he had brain cancer, and went mad later in life. he was also the most interesting writer ever.

anyways, if you're reading land, there's a good collection of stuff at r/theoryfiction. or track down a copy of the acclerationist reader, it will put his work in a historical perspective that you might find helpful if you're starting out.

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>>11578141
Thanks for the responses. Spinoza it is then, I’ll read him before starting with D&G. Although if joy is the idea I don’t see why he doesn’t advocate common religion or spirituality (or even just German idealism as a way to circumvent the disinclination towards institutional theism).

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>>11578198
well, for me at least, i find that the thing i want to read the most after having spent years and years thinking about land is religion, even if neither deleuze nor land reference that stuff very much.

german idealism is indeed a very workable bridge between. hegel is no joke, and i do think there is a lot of interesting correspondence between hegel and acceleration. and it is in a way sort of a place where you can learn all of your various problems or questions with religion (lacan really is a genius).

as for starting with spinoza before D&G, go nuts. i didn't, personally, and i didn't find AO or ATP all that hard to understand without having done so. i suspect many only find themselves reading AO after having been exposed to lacan already by way of zizek, and then maybe if they're interested going ahead into deleuze and other stuff. but who knows?

anyways, it's all fascinating reading, however you do it. so good luck then. and if you find any interesting stuff come back and share it with /lit/, the land threads are usually pretty gnarly. cheers.

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>>11578212
Cheers anon, hope to see you around in those land threads

>> No.11578421

Any suggestions on books to read to help me understand Difference and Repetition? I didn't have much trouble with Capitalism and Schizophrenia, but D&R is easily the hardest book I've ever read.

Already read Nietzsche and Philosophy (as well as every book N has written) and I'm about to read Spinoza's Ethics. Another anon mentioned Leibniz being central and I figure the Monadology would be a good start, but what else?

WHY IS D&R SO FUCKING DIFFICULT? GOD DAMN

>> No.11578556

>>11578421
Try watching John David Ebert’s videos on it

>> No.11578637

>>11577974
Lands truly significant realization is much more simple and banal. His conceptualization of non-human entities (for him mostly capitalism) as agents within the human inhabited space is incomplete and leads him to deityfy one of them without grasping the multitude of giant creatures walking amongst us.

>> No.11578672

>>11573766
>too leftist
>provided the framework that would accidentally become the alt-right and nrx
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Almost like you never read Deleuze.

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>>11578421
Try reading this bad boy to help.

>> No.11578895

>>11578637
Capitalism as egregore.

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>>11573786
>solved metaphysics
>solved
Do you really think that? Maybe we can say that he has given one of the best metaphysical analyses to date, but it would be negligent to assume that he has ""solved"" the nigh unsolvable.

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>>11578637
>the multitude of giant creatures walking amongst us

what giant creatures are you referring to? metaphysical concepts? something else?

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>>11578895
today i learned a new word, thanks anon

>>11578888
and a new book too

my cup runneth over gents

>> No.11579493

>>11578990
Metaphysics is only unsolvable when analysed incorrectly. Deleuze provides the solution to the problems of traditional metaphysics.

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>>11578421
Read everything Deleuze wrote up to D&R. Also read his courses on Leibniz for the only proper simple explanation of the dx/dy stuff he keeps bringing up but never properly explains. tl;dr it's a relation independent of its terms, but it's interesting how he got to its independence.

DeLanda helps a lot with the science stuff (singularities, multiplicities, virtual etc.) and it also helps to read some interviews and essays from the collections. Also there's like 3 or 4 English books alone that explain D&R.

Have a pasta:

A decent short summary / intro to D&G:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EHnrE3j9kg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lajsoQJ0V6A

A lot of the stuff here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4CtHPqv6eKr8pYqe8qEoEA/videos?disable_polymer=1

Everything by Manuel DeLanda:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=manuel+delanda

A bit more on the Nietzsche-Deleuze relation through Klossowski (who dedicated his book about Nietzsche to Deleuze):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7l7ZAKZZZU

More on the Deleuze-Nietzsche relation (the entire series is fascinating if you're into Nietzsche):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFFxnf92XqY


The Deleuze for the Desperate series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS35vUMhww4

Derrida's lecture about Deleuze (mistitled, it's about Stupidity not Forgiveness):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_r-gr3ccik

There's probably a lot more, there are Vimeo videos as well which don't feature on Youtube.

Pirate Deleuze's Abecedaire (it should have English subtitles) as I can't find it streamed in full online anywhere.

For compilation books, start with the essay and interview collections (in no particular order): Dialogues, Negotiations, Desert Islands, Two Regimes of Madness, Essays Critical and Clinical. "Letter to a Harsh Critic" in Negotiations is short (about 7 pages) and tells you how to read his texts.

As for books written by Deleuze, start with Nietzsche and Philosophy (read the intro as well). Deleuze's courses are also pretty accessible and translated in several languages: https://www.webdeleuze.com/


A decent bibliography:
https://immanentterrain.wordpress.com/biblio/

If you're in the mood for a light read pick up Francois Dosse's Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari: Intersecting Lives for their biographies.

>> No.11579721

>>11573791
Underridated post

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>>11578421
Also, if you're into Leibniz, DO NOT start with Deleuze's book on Leibniz. It's his last published book and it's Deleuze's equivalent of being on speed, crack and meth at the same time.

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>>11573882
hi everyone im new!!!! *holds up rhizome* my name is giles but u can call me T3H B0dY W1tH0uT 0RgANs. as you can see im very nomadic!!!! thats why i came here 2 meet nomadic people like me _... I'm 50 years old (im young for my age tho!!) i like to read spinoza (im neovitalist if you dont like it deal w/it) he is our favorite author!! bcuz its SOOOO panenhenic. he is deleuzian 2 of course but i want 2 meet more deleuzian people =) like they say the more the merrier!!!! lol…neways i hope 2 make alot of freinds here so give me lots of commentses!!!!
NOMADISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <--- me bein deleuzian again _^ hehe…toodles!!!!!

love and rhizomes,

T3H B0dY W1tH0uT 0RgANs

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>>11575041
>read Lacan faggot

I found that famous lack Lacan talks about. Pic related.

>> No.11581032

>>11579726
I thought Pure immanence was his final work...

>> No.11581628

>>11579747
based

>> No.11581635

>>11573806
>Ewwww...eww....

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>>11575041
>read Lacan
lmao

>> No.11581829

>>11573766
>too leftist
>try reason
If your reason for condemning an intellectual is on the basis of the political leanings of his thought, you left reason behind some time ago, or never knew it at all.

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>>11581032
The book Pure Immanence was just a compilation of older essays + the last one he published which gave the book its name.

>> No.11581835

>>11573756
I am only familiar with Deluze by name. Please, give me a short summary. Place him in the context of his time and philosophy as a whole, and give me a run-down of his thought in general. I'm sure I'm not the only anon who would benefit.

>> No.11582146

>>11581835
M8, you're asking us to sum up a 2000+ ages work in a post, for free.
Let's say out of the great post-structuralists, Deleuze was the only one who didn't want to abandon ontology. Read a short intro, I believe the Todd May one to be very accessible. Deleuze is very complex, there's a reason the guy had to create a good part of his vocabulary.

>> No.11582182

>>11576516
It would be extremely painful

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yes, cats and animals in general are the best illustration of what any real philosophy should be.

>> No.11582210

>>11582182
He's a big guy

>> No.11582305

>>11582210
For (you)

>> No.11582335

Does anyone have any content of Deleuze on Spinoza? I could find but they were all in french.

>> No.11582404

>>11582335
https://monoskop.org/images/d/d8/Deleuze_Gilles_Spinoza_Practical_Philosophy.pdf

>> No.11582760

>>11582146
Oh please dude. I don't need you to explain all of philosophy, only his fucking work in context. William Barret could do it in 20 fucking pages, and I'm not even asking for that level of depth. Whatever tho, make a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge claim and then puss out on the explanation.

>> No.11582956

I have very little patience for continental philosophy. I'd like to pretend that wasn't the case, that I was as equally open to the ideas of Sartre, Derrida, Baudrillard and Deleuze as I am to the ideas of Wittgenstein, Putnam, Quine and Davidson, in the spirit of intellectual openness and alethic responsibility. But the fact is after reading about 10 pages of any of the former group's work I end up thinking "Shit, I'm getting nothing out of this", stop and start reading something else.

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>>11582335
His courses on webdeleuze.com

Look up Practical Philosophy and Expressionism in Philosophy on libgen. Those are Deleuze's two books on Spinoza.

>>11582956
Start with Nietzsche & Philosophy. Once you get why the pluralistic differential ontology (or whatever you want to call it) is important for interpretation and evaluation in philosophy and in everyday life, you'll be able to read most of Deleuze and get a lot out of it (especially his work with Guattari).

>>11581835
>>11582760
Pic related is something I found on here, although the extreme nominalism thing can be a bit misleading.

If you want details check the summary videos in the pasta (here >>11579707).

Basically, Deleuze was a classical metaphyisician unlike most of his generation (poststructuralists). He spent a long time around left Nietzscheans and wrote some influential texts on the matter. He emphasized a metaphysics of pure relations independent of their terms (aka pure difference) which have their own becoming through repetition with variation. He was initially close to psychoanalysis and distanced himself from it in time, culminating with a critical text written with Guattari called Anti-Oedipus which was nonetheless very much an attempt to compromise with Lacan and get them on their side. The second volume, A Thousand Plateaus clarifies a great deal on what D&G want instead of psychoanalysis (pragmatic fluid assemblages where language is only one component among others rather than the main focus). While Deleuze's own work can be quite abstract, his work with Guattari is much more practical even though it's still very difficult to read due to their rhizomatic style of fluid connections between concepts (made possible by said philosophy of relations).

See the pasta above for details on how to start and what to watch / read.

>> No.11583501

>>11575072
Kek. Took me a few days, but I got the joke.

>> No.11583568

>>11581697
THE ERECTILE ORGAN

>> No.11583798

>>11583568
Is imaginary ;)

>> No.11584256

>>11582404
>>11583046
thank you very much

>> No.11584733

>>11578672
Whut?

>> No.11585316

>>11583046

What are infra-empiricism and type a theory of time?

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>>11583046
How can he be an anti-representationalist without collapsing in Rortyism? Does he not take his metaphysics, for example, as a correct representation of the world?

>> No.11585355

>>11585353
Continental philosophers don't appreciate these kinds of questions, bro.

>> No.11585688

>>11583046
Yes. Trolling gets results.

>> No.11585868

>>11585353
he doesn't.

>> No.11585982

>>11573756
wasnt he a fag? probably a numale atheist

>> No.11586093

>>11585353
He is the metaphysics of anti-metaphysics. The metametaphysic.

>> No.11586146

>>11575223

It is not an easy read, not as convoluted as Kant, but will still take a while to digest.

>> No.11586334

>>11575223
yep, he's still got the belt right now

>> No.11586411

Deleuze was a hack. Should have been charged with jargon abuse

>> No.11586425

>>11576873
K-Punk is great. He's very scattered but very smart and fun to read. He also didn't write in post-structuralist gibberish, which is rare for a member of CCRU.

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I think OP is in need of a neck massage

>> No.11586673

>>11573756
Why are continental threads filled with larping. Why is it this cringey

>> No.11586716

musically deleuzian ting rasclaat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y6IbLbypWo

>> No.11587105

>>11573766
Kill yourself faggot

>> No.11587106

>>11585982
He was married and had two kids. If he was gay, he was good at hiding it.

>>11585316
Infra afaik refers to several things at once here: both experience beyond images and a focus on the relations between objects, both amounting to the same thing for Deleuze. Hume, Russell and Whitehead all had their own theories about relations which vaguely fall under this category, but for Deleuze the relations were not the regular observable ones (the cat is on the table) but rather the type that for example quantum mechanics tries to understand.

>>11585353
The term does not refer to how his philosophy represents the world, but rather taking representations as a starting point (as Descartes does with the candle wax for example). Deleuze was against it because objects are already composites so you can't go beyond them if you allow them to dictate your entire ontology.

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>>11587106
Actually I should have given an example like "Paul is taller than Peter" to give you a better idea of relations. The cat one is a different category usually.

>> No.11587156

>>11573786
And it will seem that way until the next swinging dick on the sidewalk publishes his first work 60 years from now that autistically and meticulously (say that five times fast) deconstructs his work on a line by line basis. Not to mention ontology is unsolvable, almost by definition

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>>11587156
>starting sentences with And and Not
ouch

>> No.11587539

>>11573882
>Kinda miss fucking bipolar scene sluts
same, anon. same.

>> No.11587923
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>>11587156
> Not to mention ontology is unsolvable, almost by definition

It's more a matter of getting as close as possible, at least in Deleuze's case. Still, if he is right, we haven't even come close to a science that can understand pure difference. Still, given that it's based on fluctuations and undulations and stuff like that, maybe we are getting quite close since sound plays a great importance, not just as a model. These days sound is a weapon as well as a promising cure (sound is used to destroy bacteria now, although not in a medical way yet).

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>>11582196
Not sure if sarcasm.

>> No.11588561

>>11584733
Read Deleuze

>> No.11588567

>>11588561
Why alt-right and NRx?

>> No.11588598

>>11578141
Poor axiom II

>> No.11588612

>>11586673
Because contentinal "philosophy" survives on propaganda.

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>>11588612
Name a good philosopher.

>> No.11589278

>>11588567
It's just a dumb meme, D&G were leftists and only butthurt Maoists and alt-trolls claim otherwise.

>> No.11589280

Yer a wizard, lil deleuzean

http://razorsmile.org/archive/deleuzeandsorcery.pdf

>> No.11589642

Hot take: Badiou killed Deleuze

>> No.11590021

>>11588598
>E1: AXIOM. 2. That which cannot be conceived through anything else must be conceived through itself.

checks out i guess

>> No.11590035

>>11589642
hotter take: capitalism killed deleuze and badiou just announced it

>> No.11590896

нe тoнeм

>> No.11590922

>>11590896
Tы oхyeл? Moжeт ты eщё и oп этoгo тpeдa? Baм oднoгo пoлyмёpтвoгo нa cocaкe мaлo?

>> No.11590935

>>11590922
хeх
пoйдy бaмпaнy тoт yютный тpeдик :3

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пoшeл cпaть, вceм cлaдких cнoв, oбнял

>> No.11591008

>>11573756
Dave Cohen

>> No.11592518

bump

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>>11573756
Kitties make pretty good philosophers, because they are so chill

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>>11590971
>>11590935
>>11590922
>>11590896
Deleuze was not Russian.

>> No.11593402

>>11588676
Me.

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*blocks your path*

>> No.11593506

>>11593381
He knew Russian language.

>> No.11593688

>>11579747
holy kek that picture

>> No.11593719

>>11586146
I'm reading the CPR and I find it infinitely clearer than Différence et Répétition. Sometimes I wonder if he's really saying anything at all. Maybe I chose the wrong book of his to start with.
Has anyone read his book on Kant?

>> No.11593732

>>11593719
Yep. You're absolutely right. I dont know how anon got that idea

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>>11583046
>He emphasized a metaphysics of pure relations independent of their terms
Stupid. A body and the ground matter as well as their relation through gravitational attraction and eight stories of air.

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>>11593797
A body and the ground are made of relations as well. Deleuze was only inspired by the Anglo tradition of relation ontology, he didn't believe that starting from representation (already constituted objects) was the right idea.

>>11593473
Kek. Wouldn't it count as not blocking your path in Deleuze's case?

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>>11592531
Deleuze didn't really like pets sadly. Or maybe he didn't like the fact that people treated them in a silly manner. Seeing poodles and chihuahuas and the like makes me understand how he feels.

>> No.11595884

deleze is the most overrated thinker. nothing but a meme.

>> No.11595890

>>11595884
deLOSE
the LOSE

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>>11593506
Did he? I'm genuinely curious about that.

>> No.11596314

>>11596253
just another cultural marxist.

>> No.11596389

>>11596314
>cultural marxist

wow, quite the adept and well thought out criticism, your understanding of the source materials just shines

10/10