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11553554 No.11553554[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

So what if there is a god?

>> No.11553559

there is a god. we only need to argue about what the word "god" means now.

>> No.11553578

>>11553554
Read the bible and find out

>> No.11553585

then we need to abolish him

>> No.11553628

>>11553585
This.
I didn't get to vote so it doesn't count.

>> No.11553671

>>11553559
This. I accept that there must be a prime mover but how can I determine the nature of such a thing?

>> No.11553723
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11553723

i am apu i pet cat yay

>> No.11554306

>>11553671
Aquinas goes over this in the Summa, though I don't buy into a lot of it. Most of it rests on the contention that the prime mover must be simple.

>> No.11554323

>>11553554
he more than likely hates you. He hates me too, but only because I keep telling everyone his secrets

>> No.11554372

>so, what if there is a god?
>so what, if there is a god?
>so what if there, is a god?
>so what if there is, a god?

>> No.11554379

>>11554372
what if there is a god? if there is a god? is a god? a god?

>> No.11554380

>>11553723
wassup apu! good to see you again. tell the cat i say hello

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11554412

>>11554372

The best post I've seen on /lit/ in a few months.

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>>11553628
Children don't get to vote in the realm of men, so why should man vote in the realm of God

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11554427

Fuck off little frog, you human retard. I hate you.

>> No.11554445

then he will have to beg for my forgiveness

>> No.11554451

and he is one of my two remaining enemies.

>> No.11554460

>>11554416
Because there's many men and only one god, war now.

>> No.11554502

>>11554451
1. God
2. Chad

>> No.11554520

>>11554502
God is a being of pure perfection. God = Chad.

>> No.11554537

>>11553578
Just read it. There isn't one.

>> No.11554582

Whether God exists or not doesn't matter
What matters is the idea of god

>> No.11554600

God is Infinite Spirit, ever present with loving intelligence.

>> No.11554618

>>11554306
I think the arguments for divine simplicity are pretty straight forward. I think a lot of misunderstanding comes from the word "simple". A lot of people think it means that God is somehow not omnipotent or something like that.

>> No.11554626

>>11554412
That image is so stupid. American education at its peak.

The bottom image would best be described as "We invited the strippers: JFK and Stalin."

>> No.11554755

>>11554618
I agree that divine simplicity is straight forward. I just don't know if what it entails lines up with the God attested to by the Bible. I haven't thought on it enough to be certain either way though.

>> No.11556057

>>11554445
based

>> No.11556163

>>11554537
Read again brainlet

>> No.11556198

>>11554618
Why should the simplest, most fundamental, least built up ground level of reality prior even to the beginning of our own observable universe have conscious awareness?
That would make the billions of years of evolutionary history leading up to brains complicated enough to support conscious awareness pretty fucking inane and pointless.
I do think there is some oceanic, fundamental state of reality that never had a beginning which universes like our own bubbled up from, but I really don't think this state of reality would have any sort of cognition. Cognitive processes are way too dependent on massive amounts of very gradually emerged convoluted physical substrates. In fact if I had to go with an example of the *least* plausible thing a most fundamental state of reality is apt to have as a quality, I think cognition is a pretty good choice. Cognition only seems like it's fundamental from our perspective because we ourselves are cognition driven organisms. It's certainly not a fundamental part of physics (inb4 some deepak chopra reading shitposter tries to abuse a horrible popsci misunderstanding of quantum physics by bringing it up in this discussion).

>> No.11556251

>>11556198
>i'm smarter than Penrose and von Neumann
you're dumber than Chopra