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what's the one book you would read with your significant other?

>> No.11550684

the phone book

>> No.11550707
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>>11550671
> being on /lit/
>having a SO

>> No.11550721

None, reading is a solitary activity, she can go do household stuff while I read.

>> No.11550725

dom casmurro

>> No.11550751

>>11550671
One Way Street by Walter Benjamin

>> No.11550864

Any Edna St. Vincent Millay poetry collection

>> No.11550883

On women

>> No.11550888

>>11550671
read the odyessy aloud to my gf

>> No.11550904

>>11550671
snow country

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>>11550707
>>11550721
>>11550883
>>11550888

>> No.11551096

I Am A Cat

>> No.11551434 [DELETED] 

I spoke to this cute girl today at work (Airport) who happened to be studying classics and we talked about Catallus, Homer, etc for a while and I was gonna ask for her number but then she said Plato was shit so nah

>> No.11551445

I spoke to this cute girl today at work (Airport) who happened to be studying classics at Oxford and we talked about Catallus, Homer, etc for a while and I was gonna ask for her number but then she said Plato was shit so nah

>> No.11551451

>>11550671
One Hundred Years of Solitude

>> No.11551472

>>11551445
>but then she said Plato was shit so nah
But that's objectively true

>> No.11551481

Flauberts letters

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>>11551472
Pleb detected

>> No.11551489

Anything by Gabriel Garcia Marquez

>> No.11551559

>>11551489
what would you consider to be his best?

>> No.11551567

>>11550883
based, redpilled, etc.

>> No.11551648
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>>11550671
>significant other
That would entail sexual release and that would severely undermine the ability to read books and engage in intellectually heavy work, making it a self-defeating behavior.

A significant other in this day and age is nothing more than the replacement of a previous pornography or masturbation addiction with that of a corporeal body.
The consequences of this injury are severe. It leaves a man unmotivated, tired, and fogged and pollutes his subconscious and infects his dreams and waking thoughts to be nothing more than his next biological high.

Celibacy is the true secret to intellectual success.
An actual state of celibacy entails abstinence from all forms of sex release, including masturbation.

The more chaste the individual, the greater the accomplishment.
The old adage, 'aut liberi, aut libri', rings true.

The only objective justification that makes the harms of sexual release worth it is procreation. If that is not the impetus, then it should not be done.

>> No.11551771

I read calvino's fairy tales to my girlfriend before bed

>> No.11551781

>>11551648
>t. schopenhauer

>> No.11551808

>>11551781
I'm not Schopenhauer.
What the hell would give you that idea? He's been dead for going for 156 earth years, there is no possibility I could live that long, let alone be posting here. I also am not writing in German, a far more fluid language to express complex ideas (too fluid in the case of Hegel).

>> No.11551830

>>11551808
>I'm not Schopenhauer.
You are not yourself either. You are a hollow vessel echoing ideas from the past, ideas that other people came up with, nurtured and reared.
You are not an individual, you are a sponge, if one squeezes out everything that came from the outside - you'll be almost weightless.
Different specters are haunting your mind, but the most obvious is schopenhauer, hence my first post.

>> No.11551835

read moby-dick with my ex girlfriend for not very long (it was her idea)

>> No.11551837

>>11551559
It has to be 100 years of solitude. Even tho it's a obvious answer.
But I have only read 3-4 of his books. I feel like his style fits well with GFs

>> No.11551843

>>11551648
>That would entail sexual release and that would severely undermine the ability to read books and engage in intellectually heavy work, making it a self-defeating behavior.
stop shilling this silly idea, it makes 4chan NEETs literally afraid to leave the basement and get laid.

>> No.11552043

>>11551445
>I was gonna ask for her number but then she said Plato was shit so nah

I also enjoy turning down the chance to make love to an attractive, intelligent woman in order to protect the reputation of a subpar philosopher from ancient history.

>> No.11552065

>>11551830
Damn you completely btfo'd this guy. Respect.

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>>11551808

>> No.11552374

>>11551830
Behold, the wicked shall not suffer the stony steps that rise to the temple of God. To them the dawn is but a dreary dusk; an angel's wings weigh heavy upon their hearts. These shall not know the patrimony of the Father, for they commit unholy fratricide and stain the sacred marriage bed with incestual sin. Thou art no brother but as one cast out, seeking shelter upon shadowy shores. No man but beast art thou, thy kingdom is of dust and grime.

>> No.11552441

>>11551843
The only difference between having sex with a woman and having sex with a man is that the former has breasts and a weak jawline. Heterosexuality is just as gay as homosexuality. Every time I hear a guy say something like, "so and so has a nice ass", it doesn't matter he's referring to a man or a woman it sounds equally gay and I feel sorry for him for thinking that he is ennobling himself by insinuating that he would perform that disgusting and debasing act of copulation with another person.

>> No.11552558

>>11551830
Yeah... I'm pretty sure it was Schopenhauer.

>> No.11552600

>>11551445
Yeah, I'm sure the only reason you didnt get her number was because she disliked Plato. Stopping kidding yourself and stop trying to kid us friend

>> No.11552755
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>>11552441
Weininger is that you

>> No.11552820

>>11552312
Lost hard

>> No.11552829

>>11552043
>>11552600
brainlets extremely buttmad that a real patrician would reject them

>> No.11553426

>>11552312
Good one.

>> No.11553432
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11553432

The Bible

>> No.11553842

>>11552558
He's dead. End of story.

>> No.11553861

>>11552312
kek

>> No.11553907
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>>11550671
The Joy of Sex

>> No.11553926

>>11553907
This should be burned.
Sex doesn't bring joy. It brings ephemeral pleasure that's ultimately empty.
It's like writing a book called the joy of injecting heroin.

>> No.11553944

>>11553926
I'm just trying to get laid anon. My wives should be literate enough to not need me to read a book to them like a fancy lad from a medieval romance. Calm down and get the joke.

>> No.11553956

>>11551648
Actually virgins live a decade less on average compared to non virgins

>> No.11553957

>>11553926
Also it's an illustrated guide edited by Dr. Comfort. Like chortle for once in your life.

>> No.11553964

>>11553944
That's exactly the problem. Getting "laid" is a useless goal that undermines the intellect.
Sexual release is harmful. It ruins ambition, motivation and gives you a temporary lobotomy. Once a habit, it controls you rather than the other way around.
Unless your goal is procreation, you are a fool.

>> No.11553979

>>11550888
I use The Odyssey as an excuse not to hang out with hoes.

>> No.11553982

>>11553956
Oh wow I didn't know we had a real wizard here Harry!
I'd rather put my sword in the stone desu.

>> No.11553991

>>11553957
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Comfort
A huge degenerate.
Looks like Jimmy Savile
His books definitely should be burned and were he alive, he ought be staked into the burn pile.

>> No.11553999

>>11553964
This anon gets it.

You can tell which girls have been dicked too much after you haven’t fapped or had sex for awhile. It’s quite a peculiar thing really.

>> No.11554014

>>11553956
Celibacy and virginity are two different things.
As described in the post, celibacy entails abstinence from all sexual release including masturbation.
Priests have lower mortality rates. There is a tradeoff between life span and copulation in experiments done on fruit flys and mics. Both groups of non sexually active males live longest.

>> No.11554016

>>11553964
You got any evidence for this, Aleister?
Because atm, not only do I feel a lot smarter than you, but I'm also getting laid.

>> No.11554019

>>11554014
>mics
mice*

>> No.11554024

>>11554016
>he doesn’t know that he’s only feeling “smarter” because he’s being rewarded for “work” with fleeting pleasure

KEK

See you on the otherside faggot

>> No.11554067

>>11554024
So I should take that as a no?
Maybe you read more LaVey on your way back to /x/? He's a little more sex-positive.

>> No.11554084

>>11554016
>I "feel" smart guise
You're not only an idiot but you have no knowledge either concerning medicine by your very question.
For if you did, you would realize there is no thing as a biological free lunch free. Every action has it's penalty. The ability to create life itself more than any other.
Limited dopamine pathways are squandered getting and engaging in sexual activity. The penalty of prolactin release and the neurochemical cocktail that is orgasm, comes apace. This is just the neurochemical and hormonal side of the coin. The nutrients lost are also substantial. Worse, your mind is reduced to serving the whims of your sex drive. "Muh getting laid" becomes your sole waking thought. The mind was once a beautiful instrument with manifold dreams and ambitions and you peverted it to be nothing more than a slave to do the bidding of some primitive instinct that you peverted and reinforced.

As for priests having lower mortality
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7242091/

You just have no self control and never were able to eschew this horrible habit. You notice no penalty either because you are too low IQ to practice mindfulness (essentially an NPC) or have never gone without release since puberty so you have no frame of reference.

>> No.11554129

>>11554067
>See you on the otherside faggot
I meant something more along the lines of your upcoming identity/heartbreak crises when she/he/they stop spreading their legs.

Also;
>>11554084

>> No.11554221

>>11554084
Lose 7 calories a fap.
8 calories in 4 cheetos.
I think I'll survive. Even at 200 calories that's still nothing and who worries about too few calories anymore? Lot's of starving around you?
Not being 16 anymore also helps one not think about sex all day.
Sure, the only thing different about priests is they don't have sex. Checks out~
So what amazing thing are you doing with all this brain power?

>> No.11554233

>>11554221
I hope you aren't serious. If you are, you're just validating his point more with each post.

You aren't actually this dumb are you?

>> No.11554311

>>11550671
I've never had a significant other and probably never will. I'm nearly 30-years-old.

>> No.11554494

>>11554233
Are you saying I'm losing magick-psychic energy? Because if by energy you just mean calories I think my bodyfat suggests I don't masturbate enough. (If you do mean the former, maybe you shouldn't be calling other people dumb. )
Second, the sciency jargon of your likely sick puppet's unsubstantiated fringe theories do not intimidate me. Have you considered not making up crap?

>> No.11554514

why can't you just have said girlfriend/boyfriend?
trannies aren't people

>> No.11554887

>>11552755
At least my thought is distinct enough to be compared with that of a famous philosopher, whereas you yourself are so disgustingly common that your phraseology does nothing to distinguish you from the teeming mass.

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>>11554494
My "sick puppet" is using jargon which pertains to the argument at hand. If anything, he's trying to help more than I.

See pic related and enjoy the pussy m8, until you don't.

>> No.11555065

>ctrl+f "twelve rules for life"
>no results found

i think the cancer is finally in remission

>> No.11555067

>>11555065
you are a funnymotherfucker

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>>11550671
>what's the one book you would read with your significant other?

>> No.11555237

>>11555061
Neither of you has really made much of an argument. Not one better than my palms will grow hair and hell awaits. As I'm not a child living in the 1930s, I'm not sure why you'd think those would be effective.

>> No.11555274

>>11554221
>So what amazing thing are you doing with all this brain power?
Seconding this question, what exactly has the rabid nofapper in this thread done with all that magic energy? Judging by the purple cliches of
>The mind was once a beautiful instrument with manifold dreams and ambitions and you peverted it to be nothing more than a slave to do the bidding of some primitive instinct that you peverted and reinforced.
It can't have been anything pertaining to the field of writing.

>> No.11555610

>>11554494
What a seething imbecile you are.
The loss of energy has nothing to do with calories lost.
It has to do with dopamine crash followed by prolactin release (anti dopamine hormone). This is why, most male animals generally fall asleep shortly after coitus.

Your ignorance of physiology again shows. You reduce everything down to calories and the system is more complex than that.
Some have even posited that the hormonal alterations from increased sexual activity causes obesity

https://www.medical-hypotheses.com/article/S0306-9877(08)00190-4/abstract

People with no self control like yourself cannot resist eating in much the same way they cannot resist getting aroused. You think you are in control but you're not. You're still a slave to sensual desires.

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>>11551648

>> No.11555675

>>11555237
>le current year
Arguements against sexual excesses of the 1930s were much more cogent than anyone who defends this abominable habit. Truth is, sexology has since these times been divorced from medicine and has been in the hands of social scientists who have no understanding of physiology. The arguments of the 1930s, while crude today, were never disproven by their contemporaries. That's because "muh it's harmless" retards didn't know and still don't know jack shit about medicine.
>dude it's natural
>dude lol u won't get hair palms
>repression dude
>appeal to 'authorities' such as "Dr." Ruth

In comparison, the book "Science Discovers the Value of Continence", represents the best advice anyone could have received concerning the matter.

(Save as text or HTML to read on an ereader)

http://antisex.info/en/contin.htm

>> No.11555681

>>11555675
>An opinion has gained ground in modern times, not only among the general public, but also among physicians, that the belief in the physiological value of continence belongs to the dark ages of religious superstitions and scientific ignorance, and is incompatible with physiological knowledge. Certain pseudosexologists, have exploited this idea to their commercial advantage and have created in the public mind a phobia in regards to continence, which is regarded as a cause of nervous and mental diseases and a positive health danger. On the basis of this belief, physicians and psychoanalysts have looked on continence for the cause of the nervous ailments of youth and have advised young men to visit prostitutes and risk venereal infection as a lesser evil than the assumed hazards of abstinence.

>A careful reading should, however, convince any open-minded reader that the above view is false, and that continence per se can never do harm, but is always beneficial; and that when trouble occurs in an individual not practicing normal sex relations, the fault is not continence but some vicarious means of sex expression, excessive nocturnal emissions, etc. In view of the richness of the semen in lecithin, cholesterol, phosphorus and other constituents of nervous and brain tissue it is clear that it is incontinence, or loss of these valuable nerve- nourishing substances which, by promoting undernutrition, is responsible for disturbed functioning of the nervous system and brain, and never true continence, contrary to the unscientific views of the psychoanalysts.

>We have seen that the internal secretions of the sex glands stand at the basis of the individual's physical and mental vitality and that sex hormones are present in the external as well as in the internal secretions of the gonads. Many of the effects attributed to such hormones, as we have seen, are due to the physiological effect of resorbed semen. Conservation of semen means conservation of sex hormones and increased vigor, while loss of semen means loss of hormones and diminished vitality; also chronic deficiency of such hormones leads to the symptoms of senility, which Voronoff and Steinach strove to overcome by increasing the amount of sex hormones in the blood.

>> No.11555690

>>11555643
what is this from?

>> No.11555736

>>11552755
I'm not fucking Weininger.
What the hell would give you that idea? He's been dead for going for 115 earth years, there is no possibility I could live that long, let alone be posting here.

>> No.11555872

>>11550671
my gf was interested in platos republic when she saw I was reading it but she only got through the first fifty pages of it and dropped it because she didnt like the kindle she was reading it on. She went on to read some sherlock holmes instead

what is the deal with women and mystery crime novels?

>> No.11555890
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>>11555690
It's an orthodox monk from my country
https://youtu.be/E-p1DmddP_I

I love to watch documentaries on orthodox monks, monasteries and hermits.
They have some of the best words of wiadom

>> No.11555926

>>11555890
Thanks, looks good.
I give monks the most admiration. They didn't choose it for renown, prestige or money. They gave up everything in pursuit of tranquility and what they believe to be the truth

>> No.11556078

>>11550671
Whatever I am reading at that moment is the best choice. Why bother grabbing something else?

>> No.11556984

>>11555610
Lots of conclusions you are drawing there from a source that just says, "In conclusion, we hypothesize that increased sexual activity may possibly be a causative factor in gaining body weight."
("May possibly" strong language, researchers. )

>>11555675
And you, my God man, what kind of source is this? Pretty sure that's written by a Russian schizophrenic. When I want the advice of an eastern orthodox crazy person, I'll ask for it.
Is this the new Russian troll plan to rule the world? Convince westerners to stop having sex. Ha, it's not the Jews. It was the Russians all along!

tl;dr. Thanks for the classic example of the Dunning–Kruger effect.

>> No.11557185

>>11556984
Yeah that's sorta kinda the whole point of the word "posited".

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>>11550671
The 5th canto of the Inferno

>> No.11557209

>>11554311
damn, magical powers soon.

>> No.11557212

>>11551771
comfy

>> No.11558119

I almost experienced sexual release with a girl in February 2014. I will skip over the introductory details which would provide some context to the situation, but in short we were in her flat (where she lived alone), and were both nude in her bed, the lights turned off. I unfortunately had become limp upon putting on (or half putting on) the condom, and lay beside her, furiously masturbating while kissing her and trying not to let her realize I could not revive my erection. She obviously did realize however, and kept reaching down to bat away my hand, and may even have said "Don't" or "Stop" at some point to dissuade me from doing it, but I continued, arching my lower half away from her on the bed while continuing to kiss her, alas to no effect. Previously, I had asked her if it was normal for people to "French kiss" these days, and if she wanted to do it, but she gave no definite answer and we didn't "tongue" (as I had done at the age of around twelve, an experience I still recall in great detail). Anyway, my erection not forthcoming, she did indeed try to "tongue" with me, but I merely flinched and by that point had all but given up, and laid on my back. She kept kissing my neck and ear, and asked what was wrong, but I said nothing and immediately tried to placate her by kissing her and resuming my frenzied masturbation under the sheets, sweating uncontrollably all the while (which I didn't notice until later on). Eventually we "spooned" and I, having removed the condom, became erect and said "See, it's ok when I'm not wearing a condom" but she pretended to be asleep or at least very tired. She eventually left the bed, quite honestly admitting without words that the experience had proved dissapointing. After waiting for her to return for about fifteen minutes, I quickly dressed and said aloud that I was leaving. She emerged from the bathroom (with her phone, I noticed to my dismay) and half-heartedly encouraged me to stay, but I left, leaving my side of the bed absolutely soaked with perspiration, and leaving the barely used condom in the tiny bin in her bathroom. We never saw each other again, though I did rather pathetically try to initiate conversation via text several times. It was the height of my sexual life, and will probably mark the final time I became intimate with a girl (the first time too). I don't even mind any more. I have read some of the private writings of Kafka, and I have read about Lovecraft and Leopaldi, and I have come to understand Kierkegaard and Kant, and I know now that my failing to become erect in her presence, and to penetrate her vaginal opening with my penis (I did prod in that general area, but it was dark and she said I was aiming too high) was a sign that my life is to be one of immense cerebral undertakings, a life of the mind and not of the body, as though I were (and am) a purely intellectual force drifting high above the terrain of instinct and desire.

>> No.11558329

>>11558119
Where is this from?

>> No.11558433

How can you unironically not be over relationships by the age of 25?

>> No.11558456

>>11557209
They changed it to age 40 because too many people have been getting wizard powers

>> No.11558526
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>>11557209
You don't get magical powers unless you abstain from masturbation and sexual thoughts themselves.

>> No.11559835

Something you could both enjoy, in my case it was Interview with the vampire, Sidhartha, and Jurassic Park. I’ve done this with my so a few times now, we have recommended books to each other and read them at the same time. As we go we have something to talk about and share our thoughts and feelings throughout the stories we share with eachother. The ability to have these discussions has really helped us get to know each other on a much more intimate level by allowing us to reveal our deepest feelings and engage in deeper dialouge. I think everyone should do this with their so. Also, sometimes it is fun to read different books about similar topics (she once read a book on One cultures creation myths while I read about another’s creation myths ) and afterwards we tak about the two and compare

>> No.11560213

>>11551445
The subtle distinction between real-life-NPCs and critical thinkers: "[person] is shit" vs. "[idea] is shit, because..."

Who an idea comes from makes absolutely no difference. Think about this: Hitler surely had some very good ideas, and Mother Teresa surely had some very bad.

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>>11550671
This book is a god given gift to read together with a lady!

The pace is somewhere between a dream and enlightenment, but played out on a very low-lit background.

>> No.11561323

>>11550671

The Illiad/Oddyssey but she reads a lot faster than me so it'd probably be hard.

>> No.11561367

>>11555890
This is really made me feel better.

>> No.11561395

My girlfriend and I read Gene Wolfe's Wizard Knight series on a road trip. Can't stand audio books - much prefer to read aloud with another person.

>> No.11562675

>>11551445
when I studied there, my GF second year was doing Classics. had some really nice conversations on her subject which made me sorta regret doing PPE

then third year I broke up with her to get with a hotter girl who studied Geography

wish I hadn't done that, I only realized after graduating that cute nice girls who give a fuck about classics aren't exactly something you can take for granted

appreciate what you have, /lit/