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How do you cope with the fact that everything has already been written?

>> No.11547256

>>11547253
read Gide
>Everything that needs to be said has already been said. But since no one was listening, everything must be said again.

>> No.11547262
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11547262

>>11547253
self destructive behavior

>> No.11547263

Writing something new

>> No.11547265

>>11547253
Can you show me a bestiality version of Lolita? No? Then shut the fuck up you uncreative mong.

>> No.11547268

>>11547253
You should write about new things. This is why scifi is the only good genre.

>> No.11547281

>>11547253
fugging brainled xD

>> No.11547287

>>11547265
>he thinks the internet lacks loli-bestiality erotica
Or are you complaining about the prose?

>> No.11547291

>>11547253
One idea I've had is to write about the history of science and religion metaphorically in a work of fantasy. Has that been written before? Or doesn't it count, since I'd just be adapting historical works to a new format?

>> No.11547292

I take every written book in history and break their individual words into square cells, stacking them on top of each other to form a grid of words where every book written is represented in one of the rows, and can be read from left to right.
I then take the first word in the first row, and think of a word that is different than it. I move down to the second word in the second row, and think of a word that is different from it, while still grammatically flowing from the previous word I came up with. I move on to the third word in the third row, fourth in the fourth, etc, and fill in the first unfilled row at the bottom of my grid with these words as I continue onward.
Thus I am eventually given a novel written out in the bottom-most row that is defined by its being different from every other written book in at least one place

>> No.11547321

>>11547253
my diary is still going desu

>> No.11547401

>>11547287
Not only that, but also asking about a work that already exists, while simply putting a bestiality angle to it.

>> No.11547481

>>11547287
Lolita isn’t erotica brainlet. I’m asking for something that takes on bestiality and legitimately tries to make it artful and nuanced.

>> No.11547505

>>11547281
>>11547265
I bet nobody has written these combinations of letters before. you've been proven wrong again, OP.

>> No.11547511

>>11547505
OP fucking B T F O

>> No.11547521

>>11547292
based, no replies because even the stemfags which browse /lit/ are brainlets, or perhaps especially the stemfags

>> No.11547535

>>11547505
All these letters bring up things that already exist. If you ask for a bestiality fanfic of Lolita, you're proving my point because you're asking something that already exists, with a random twist on it, taking something that already exists and trying to find a new way of telling it.

>> No.11547615

>>11547535
I assure you, only brainlets like you run out if new things to write about.

>> No.11547617

>>11547535
I agree that a carbon copy with ”Lolita” replaced with ”Mr Snuffles” wouldn’t be worth much, but is there even a book that explores the mind of a beastophile in an artful and non-erotic manner? That is actually good? If not, get working in it OP.

>> No.11547622

>>11547617
fuck off furfag

>> No.11547624

>>11547292
Beautiful

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11547629

>>11547292
by gum...

>> No.11547631

Thats like saying every song has been made

>> No.11547638

>>11547622
t. eww no i haven’t read lolita im not a pedo lol

>> No.11547648

>>11547615
You're too busy trying to insult me to realize the point is that all themes have already been written, and not literally the exact same version of every single possible story.
Quite ironic.

>> No.11547660

>>11547648
When exactly did we run out of original stories? What was the last book that wrote one?

>> No.11547677

>>11547660
How would I know, and why should it matter?

Sell me three original story themes, as in they have never existed before in literary history.

>> No.11547700

>>11547648

>all themes

Shoddy reasoning mate. That you can badly interpret any story and with that bad interpretation reduce several stories to a single theme, does not mean originality is impossible. I've never read a story that couldn't be butchered into an interpretation about a loss of innocence, but that doesn't mean that the stories were the same, which necessarily follow if your shitty reasoning about thematic resemblance and lack of originality actually held up.

>> No.11547713

Nullipreter dey unifolthered pæobilutation op kijara

>> No.11547722

>>11547700
Interesting how you chose to ignore everything I said.

Still waiting for themes that have never been written before. Here, I'll only ask one. Just one, tell me one theme that has never been written about before.

>> No.11547733

>>11547677
>in the dystopian future of 2018 anon on an anonymous forum named "fourchan" is looking for story ideas and finds much more than he's bargined for
>in the dystopian future of 2018 anon on an anonymous forum is trying to get somebody to write a novel about his furry fetish (but like lolita so nonsexual) and he finds himself a target of a vigilante group named "right wing death squads"
>in the dystopian future of 2018 anon on an anonymous forum unsuccesfuly tries to make a funny post and quits in shame, deciding instead to pursue masturbation

>> No.11547735

>>11547677
>How would I know, and why should it matter?
Well shouldn’t you know roughly, at least? I mean if it was virtually unnoticeable that literature ran out of themes then why is it even a cause for concern?

>> No.11547748

>>11547291
Idk I feel like this is a pretty good idea. I’d read it to see what it’s like.

>> No.11547750

>>11547253

Your OP is shitty. Should have specified >>11547648 initially, that you were looking for themes.

How do I cope with that? There's no need to cope with that. Repeated themes in art throughout history shows perennial problems that we have always dealt with. It gives me a sense of historical continuity and belonging that is very reassuring in an atomized age. Because of these perennial themes that are still prevalent to the humans of today, I can feel kinship with all of humanity throughout history. Feels pretty good.

I see absolutely no issue with your sense of "everything has already been written", when qualified by this post >>11547648. What's your problem with it?

>> No.11547751

Anyone here heard of the library of babel? Pretty sure everything than can be written has been written there

>> No.11547753

>>11547733
I'd read it

>> No.11547758

>>11547253
with the knowledge that it hasn't. You fucking idiot.

>> No.11547773

>>11547750
Yeah I realized after I posted but I guess you can get the meaning anyways?

>What's your problem with it?
That there can't be something new, that we're going to be writing about the same things trying to find new spins over and over again.

>> No.11547789

>>11547773
So? There is a limited number of chord progressions, but you somehow still listen to music having heard them all, don't you?

>> No.11547795

>>11547789
Of course, and you can still enjoy it, but it's a bummer that, for example, there will never be new notes. And that gets worse with time.

>> No.11547813

>>11547773
>That there can't be something new
I might sound like a hippie here but every single person that writes about anything will bring something new because it’s a new person writing about it. And I think the reason people still write serious literature is becase they think something hasn’t been conveyed in the way they feel like it should/could be. If it’s worth reading is a completely different question, but I really don’t agree with thinking of themes as blocks and going well Homer wrote about wrath so I guess that’s done and done now

>> No.11547826

ask the guys in the late 19th century decrying the same
or Goethe
or perhaps Ecclesiastes?

>> No.11547860

just critique everything that has been written

there are also a lot of math problems that havent been solved

>> No.11547872

>>11547722
but if told you how can I be the one?