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>We do not simply pierce through the curtain of illusions to reach an "other side", unfettered by the obfuscations of natural consciousness; rather we encounter reality as the objective truth of these illusions. There is nothing beyond the curtain of appearances except for what we put there. This is the essential difference between the Kantian and Hegelian dialectic. For Hegel, the antimonies produced "nothing beyond tortuous antitheses."

>... We do not simply step away from appearance to reality, from the phenomena to the things themselves. We rather learn that our propensity to illusion does not derive simply from the deficiencies of natural consciousness but is inscribed in the act of thinking - and therefore in being - as such. We move from the illusion that there is something real beyond illusion to the real of this illusion. We become disillusioned with the illusion of the dichotomy of truth and illusion.


just in awe of this gnosis lads

>> No.11539299

They could have just said

>there's no thing in itself

>> No.11539306

>>11539299
no, the thing in itself just is the inaccessibility of the thing in itself, and consequently the fantasmic operations that emerge in response

>> No.11539315

>>11539267
Where is this from?

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>>11539315

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>>11539330
based Ruda

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>>11539330
>Woman
>Anglos
I think I'll give it a miss after all

>> No.11539350

>>11539330
That book and its reading is so bullshit, and yet it's the best kind of bullshit.

>> No.11539356

>>11539343
pretty brilliant materialist reading of hegel, you can take or leave all the "primordial deadlock in the absolute" stuff but it's undoubtedly compelling

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>>11539267
So in other words, Plato was right all along?

>> No.11539362

>>11539350
what would you recommend for more metaphysical readings of Hegel, or whichever school you hang your coat in

>> No.11539365

>>11539361
the complete opposite: textbook Plato would say there is something behind the curtain, and it's more beautiful than we can ever imagine

>>11539336
ok fuck it im gonna read this

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>>11539267
So in other words, Aristotle was right all along?

>> No.11539561

Why are "in awe of this gnosis" threads always shit?

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>>11539267
So in other words, Parmenides was right all along?

>> No.11540736

>>11539564
yes no

>> No.11541756

>>11539561
>he isn't in awe of this gnosis

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>>11539267
>>11539361
>>11539365

The other side is you. Not also you, not you too, but FULLY you. Perhaps you've remembered when you woke up and quickly fell back asleep or when you sat down after a tiresome day. It's not so much transcendence but immanence, being as you truly are, indifferent to and triumphant over any and all Phenomenal vistas.

>> No.11542386

>>11542332
immanence is transcendence, provided the intensity is there