What age were you when you discovered that this text was fabricated by an intellectually dishonest pseudo-intellectual? For me, it was 21.

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Anonymous Sun Jul 29 01:36:05 2018 No.11535429 [Reply] [Original]

What age were you when you discovered that this text was fabricated by an intellectually dishonest pseudo-intellectual?

For me, it was 21.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 01:38:55 2018 No.11535436 "Fabricated," rabbi? Jews and honesty, I tell ya.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 01:51:47 2018 No.11535487 >>11535429 I for one am sick of being lied to

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:03:40 2018 No.11535519 I just read the synopsis, read "group selection" and wrote it off as a brainlet book.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:05:10 2018 No.11535520 >>11535429 This was one of the more pathetic forced memes I've seen here

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:06:27 2018 No.11535524 >>11535520 The book, right?

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:08:07 2018 No.11535531
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>>11535519
It's a very important book for whites to read. The amount of venom jews devote to denouncing it should tell you all you need to know. There's a reason why we included it in the old trilogy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:13:29 2018 No.11535550 >>11535429 >fabricated by an intellectually dishonest pseudo-intellectual tfw half of the books are like that

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:13:36 2018 No.11535552 >>11535531 It has been debunked as fuck, you got meme'd on by your own brain. Don't feel too bad, the scholar who authored this paper believed his lies upon first read too. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5942340/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:15:42 2018 No.11535560 >>11535524 yeah it's just annoying and arbitrary, its proliferation on /lit/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:20:40 2018 No.11535579 >>11535552 No, it hasn't. MacDonald's primary complaint has always been that no one will challenge it, and that there has been an academic gag order imposed on reviewing it. Stop lying, you kike. The recent Kofcas attempt got torn apart as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:36:39 2018 No.11535621 >>11535552 Will read when i have time, but tell me, is a valid critic or is just another "MacDonald is a bad person" kind of refutation

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:37:35 2018 No.11535623

>>11535429
The problem with that book is that there's a grain of truth in it. Jews are tribal, but so is every other existing group (otherwise they wouldn't be an existing group), such as Italians, Polacks, Koreans... they all practice occasional nepotism and act in ways to maximize their benefits and survival.

Are Jews on average more tribal than other groups? Probably, but that's expected given their history of persecution.

The main problem of MacD's theory though, is that Jews produced a ton of intellectual material/art etc. with very different content. People like Ezra Pound were Jewish too.
Also, claiming that Jews invented "cultural marxism" which is now destroying the West sounds silly. Frankfurt school Jews would be very critical of the contemporary American society.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:41:38 2018 No.11535640

>>11535621
Cofnas is a jew who botched his critique more than anything. He has been torn apart since it came out, but whites should read it as they should CofC.

>>11535623
>history of persecution.
This excuse stops working the second or third time you get kicked out. At 359 times, it's just a joke thinking it'll fly.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:50:08 2018 No.11535665

>>11535623
cont.
So to conclude, I'm willing to admit that Jews are more tribal and they obviously are over-represented in influential positions in the West/US.
But I still don't see this as some insurmountable problem that many people do. Jews could become less tribal in the future and they could be friendly to white nationalist ideals, with the right circumstances/political climate.
And I'm convinced that white nationalists talking about Jews are mostly using them as a scapegoat/distraction in order to hide the real problem, which is that they, as a political entity, are simply weak. It's like Democrats screeching about Trump, essentially. They need to fix their own problems before pointing fingers.

>>11535640
>This excuse
It's not an excuse, it's an explanation. Please don't be a typical neo-nazi brainlet, it won't get you anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:54:08 2018 No.11535680 >>11535665 Different guy but I'd say many Jews could be assimilated if the they were to completely abandon their Jewish culture and heritage and marry into the rest of society.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:54:21 2018 No.11535682

>>11535665
You must be new here. Nobody on /lit/ buys these jewish lies anymore so you're wasting your time repeating these absurd notions about jews being constantly kicked out because they're scapegoats, and not the truth, which is because of their behavior.

This defense of your deranged people's tribal interests will go further on reddit. Don't post here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:56:23 2018 No.11535688 >>11535680 The Egyptians said the same thing thousands of years ago. It will never happen. The Egyptians like everyone else afterward kicked them out because that's the only solution to the jewish problem: physical removal.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:58:18 2018 No.11535693

>>11535640

>I published these observations in the journal Human Nature. MacDonald released a response to me, in which—although he won’t admit it—he changed his theory. He now says that it doesn’t matter if Jews are on the opposite side of every issue, it only matters which side has more influence. He writes: “the important question…is not counting heads…but in determining where the influence lies.” Therefore, even though some of the most important leaders of the anti-Israel Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement are Jews, it doesn’t matter because the BDS movement hasn’t been successful. But whether a political movement is ultimately successful is to a large extent a matter of luck. If, as far as we can tell, Jews are just about equally likely to be leaders in all non-overtly anti-Semitic movements, this obviously favors the default hypothesis.

>MacDonald also now says that if Jews support opposing movements, it is because the Jewish community has “important diversity of viewpoint” concerning what is in the best interests of Jews. But he never explains why Jews do not tend to disproportionately back those movements that really do support Jewish interests. In The Culture of Critique he repeatedly indicates that Israel is of central importance to Jewish ethnic interests. He now says that the fact that many Jews viciously oppose Israel presents no challenge for his theory because anti-Israel Jews are acting on what they perceive to be their ethnic interests. He has very little evidence to support this claim besides his unsupported assumption that everything Jews do must be motivated by their drive to promote Jewish interests.

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Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:59:22 2018 No.11535698

>>11535693

>There are many other facts that seem to clearly contradict the predictions of MacDonald’s theory, though he attempts to spin them as actually supporting evidence. For example, I pointed out that the Jews who participated in liberal movements—namely, the secular ones—have an intermarriage rate upwards of seventy percent. This would seem to cast doubt on the claim that they are engaged in a “group evolutionary strategy.” MacDonald responded that the high intermarriage rate is part of the strategy because

>“intermarriage and conversion have benefits for the Jewish community…, including the advantages of marrying into prominent non-Jewish familiars, such as the families of presidents Trump and Clinton….Some authors have suggested that relatively high rates of intermarriage, low fertility, and the various levels of Jewish identification in the modern Western societies are highly functional for Judaism because they serve as a bridge to the surrounding culture because of family ties with non-Jews.

>This is, as philosophers of science say, not exactly an “inference to the best explanation.” Rather, as Imre Lakatos said, weakening one’s theory in the face of difficulties but without making new risky predictions is a sign of “methodological degeneration.”

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:01:33 2018 No.11535706 >>11535693 >>11535698 This is old news. Cofnas' attempted debunking was widely destroyed months ago.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:02:10 2018 No.11535707

>>11535680
Many Western Jews already have assimilated and racemixed with goyim. I'd say most white looking Jews are genetically so "European" that all they have left is the cultural aspect, which negates all those evolutionary genetic theories.

>>11535682
>jews being constantly kicked out because they're scapegoats
I never said that, though.
Maybe you're not a white nationalist, maybe it's just your hobby to obsess over Jews. In that case carry on.
But for white nationalists, I'll just say that you have way more important things to worry about. (Gee, I wonder who could be behind this post.)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:02:35 2018 No.11535708 >>11535706 And group selection was debunked decades ago. Guess the news didn't reach some hack psychologist though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:04:19 2018 No.11535715 >>11535708 Group selection is a basic, fundamental part of evolution and nature. You have no clue what you're on about.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:05:39 2018 No.11535718 >>11535715 you just shot yourself in the foot, im not going to help you figure out why or how to reverse engineer a solution, stormnigger.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:08:41 2018 No.11535727 >>11535707 >>11535718 You jews are wasting your time doing this on /lit/. This is the high IQ board and you're peddling overused tribal tropes that haven't been effective in years. People see through it now, it just doesn't work anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:11:46 2018 No.11535737 >>11535727 lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:20:05 2018 No.11535768 >>11535531 There is one good book in this image. Can you spot it?

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:20:08 2018 No.11535769

>>11535693
>>11535698
That pretty much sums up MacD and similar people. Pretty much everything Jews do or don't do is interpreted creatively to fit an agenda.

I consider myself an open-minded person, so I leave the possibility that Jews really are "bad" in some way. But if you can't prove it, what's the point? You're just creating a religious cult of believers, nobody will take you seriously.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:22:06 2018 No.11535778
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I don’t even know why you keep bringing this book up, it’s cherrypicking to the max and didn’t even pass peer-review. It’s not worth all the knob gobbling you give it.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:43:42 2018 No.11535862

>>11535769
It's not complicated. They are pushy, corrupt, immoral, and deceptive, and they promote their interests zealously and those interests conflict with those of whites, whose society and institutions through ethnic nepotism become more and more jewish, and get turned against the whites who built them.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:45:02 2018 No.11535865

>>11535707
I don't think it negates them as they still are a cultural-religious-ethno group, which has ingroup bias. Now they are ethnically European and therefore can be assimilated in that respect, but what about their culture and religion? Many secular Jews still marry other Jews due to that ethnic identity. Its a very complex issue.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:48:35 2018 No.11535877
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>>11535862
But there is no evidence. Sure you have a book of examples that didn’t like white people, but I can make a book that records every instance in human history where an ayran ate human shit. It would have the same academic holdings as this book does, and by your logic would be concrete evidence that all aryans eat shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:51:01 2018 No.11535882 >>11535877 The evidence is endless. The issue is you're jewish.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:53:41 2018 No.11535891
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>>11535882
Your “evidence” is bullshit. This book is a failure in every academic circle, and ca be BTFO by a couple of pretentious 20 something’s on an anonymous image board for anime. You’re just making a fool of yourself

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:54:53 2018 No.11535894

>>11535862
Jews are vastly overrepresented in positions of influence, but to claim that they use their influence to collectively wage war on gentiles is disingenuous.
Because many right-wing movements in the twentieth century have been overtly anti-Semitic, Jewish political involvement has skewed left, but Jews are still overrepresented among the leaders of all sorts of non-overtly anti-Semitic right-wing movements.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:56:06 2018 No.11535898 >>11535891 No "academic circle" has ever even addressed it. Moshe, give it up and make aliya.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:58:13 2018 No.11535905 File: 2.01 MB, 4050x5550, 1448839811773-0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11535894 >to claim that they use their influence to collectively wage war on gentiles is disingenuous. It's just a fact.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:59:45 2018 No.11535909 >>11535623 >history of perscussion i would have though after being kicked out of the 100th country they would have gone "maybe its us and not the goyim" but the went on and got kicked out of 256 more countries

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 04:05:50 2018 No.11535926

>>11535898
Burger King knockoff is literally FROM and academic circle. And he failed peer review because of his afformentioned cherry picking. If you are even going to try and deny this claim the I suggest you look up what cherrypicking means. At most he has an account of Jewish thinkers influencing society (in some cases for the better), but that is not a scientific piece of evidence to make a claim that Jewish people are manipulating or whatever. If I made a book about black thinkers and their influence on society then you could say black people control everything . You have literally nothing, just a list of Jewish people who did stuff you don’t like.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 04:10:31 2018 No.11535938

>>11535926
You are a jew whose tribal conditioning is disabling you from thinking clearly so you can come to the defense of jews. We get it. We know you have no control over it. But you still have to go. You are a fucked up race that blames everyone else for the problems you cause and your countless expulsions, as you will the one on the horizon.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 04:15:28 2018 No.11535953
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>>11535938
Is calling people Jews your only defense? My, what a pitiful thing you are. When you have real evidence and not just “oh boy the guys are Jewish” let me no, otherwise stop shitting up /lit/, you’re wasting space on the servers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 04:18:27 2018 No.11535962 >>11535905 >go look for jewish white privilege preachers >put them in a picture >"HMM wow how come all these are jewish??? pure coincidence!!"

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 04:20:28 2018 No.11535974 >>11535953 Go back to Israel and stop posting on /lit/

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 04:34:42 2018 No.11536010

Harold "I'm a g-n-o-s-t-i-c" Bloom claimed Freud was the most Jewish thinker in spirit, even though he denied it to himself, standing astride no less than Spinoza (with Heidegger the least, though this is debatable). It is simply disingenuous or uninformed to suggest Jewish memes have had negligible influence on our current set of predicaments, such as the current crop of college radicalized youth, who are far more concerned with blowing out wh*toids and undoing gender than the total surveillance state, generating an autistic reaction and even more mental illness, further dragging all public discourse down into the sewer, in a kind of perverse inverted Hegelian race to the very bottom. Unfortunately braindead shills have successfully muddied the waters with disinfo so as to retard any real discussion on this sensitive and complex taboo issue.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 04:57:58 2018 No.11536073 >>11535974 not an argument, goy

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:05:42 2018 No.11536093 >>11535623 >People like Ezra Pound were Jewish too. Not rly

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:31:26 2018 No.11536158 >>11535665 I agree. Shame there’s so many rampant anti-semites here that have no clue what they’re talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:34:33 2018 No.11536163 >>11535727 It’s ok to be nice to Jews man. You don’t have to belittle yourself like this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:38:52 2018 No.11536174 >>11535938 Your bait is getting lazier.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:06:28 2018 No.11536229 >>11536189 >The left is still unable to meme Sad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:07:30 2018 No.11536232 >>11536229 these are jews, m8.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:11:55 2018 No.11536241 >>11535429 I never read it because it's literally forced spam.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:12:56 2018 No.11536244 >>11535768 Gravity's Rainbow?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:19:52 2018 No.11536256 >>11535531 >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:40:46 2018 No.11536300 >>11536229 >>11536232 Your mothers must be ashamed of you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:45:32 2018 No.11536311 >>11536300 Textbook jewish projection/response.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:07:33 2018 No.11536370 >>11536311 You live in a sad reality. I genuinely hope you can overcome whatever demons are causing you to cling to these delusions. It must not be a pleasant life.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:12:25 2018 No.11536375 >>11536093 Fair enough, my bad. You can still find many Jews who support Trump, for example, or who are against degeneracy. Stormniggers conveniently ignore them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:13:16 2018 No.11536377 >>11535429 >fabricated Like all texts? >dishonest What is this meme? I feel like browsing /tv/ and reading shitposters saying that Blade Runner 2049 was "dishonest". It's a non-critique.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:17:36 2018 No.11536387 >>11536370 Jewish psychopathologizing 101 on display right here.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:20:56 2018 No.11536398

>>11536387
Why are you doing this? What is your goal? What it take for you to claim a moral victory? Evidence that Jews literally abduct white kids and feast on their flesh? Would that make you happy? Would the suffering of those kids fill you with joy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:21:15 2018 No.11536399 >>11536377 >>11536387 i like that these two instances of anti-knowledge statements are aligned in this way, this is good practice if you are not a soulless husk for diagnosing extreme disased souls

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:24:33 2018 No.11536403 >>11536399 You must really bask in glorious arcane knowledge for recognizing "dishonest" things that easily.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:33:10 2018 No.11536419 >>11536403 using tbat word is dishonest in this instance too, see!?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:47:21 2018 No.11536460 >>11535778 >redditor accusing other people of being redditors

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:52:59 2018 No.11536474

>>11535429
>>11535552
The most interesting thing about this Cofnas critique is that the ONLY WAY he manages to competently attack MacDonald was by essentially adopting far-right talking points about Race and IQ.

Basically for decades the suggestion that whites do better then blacks because of their genes has been thoroughly rejected by academia, to the point that people get fired over it. But when it comes to the Jews exactly this "extremely racist" notion is celebrated as a debunking of pseudoscience.

I honestly don't know who is right, but if you aren't a "race realist" and celebrate Cofnas, then you are even more dishonest then what you accuse MacDonald to be.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:54:12 2018 No.11536475 >>11536460 t. redditor

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:55:08 2018 No.11536476 >>11535953 >>11535891 >>11535877 >>11535778 Where are these filenames from? I notice on other boards obvious shills post pictures with similar filenames.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:57:52 2018 No.11536479 >>11536375 >You can still find many Jews who support Trump, for example, or who are against degeneracy. Of course, Trump is the ultimate jewlover. None of them has a problem with the USA becoming Brazil 2.0 >or who are against degeneracy. like?

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:59:11 2018 No.11536485

>>11536474
What? You're being dishonest. Cofnas is an evolutionary psychologist, so of course he would use darwinian argument. Darwinianism is not an exclusively far right thing. Maybe if you start taking words seriously, then you'll realize that there's a diverse spectrum of opinions in academia and that what you're attacking only describes a narrow range of academia.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 08:06:22 2018 No.11536504

>>11536485
>Cofnas is an evolutionary psychologist
I don't think that is true. He studied philosophy of biology as far as I know.
MacDonald is the evolutionary psychologist.

>of course he would use darwinian argument
There could be a billion others.

>Darwinianism is not an exclusively far right thing.
Granted.
But I was talking about biological racial differences between blacks and whites.
Just look at Rushton and such or the Nobel prize winner Watson who got fired from his own institute:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/11261872/James-Watson-selling-Nobel-prize-because-no-one-wants-to-admit-I-exist.html

>Maybe if you start taking words seriously, then you'll realize that there's a diverse spectrum of opinions in academia and that what you're attacking only describes a narrow range of academia.
See above.
Saying blacks do worse because of their IQ is a controversial position in academia.
Also I wasn't talking just about academia.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 08:14:38 2018 No.11536521

>>11536504
Believing in jewish genetic advantage and denying black genetic disadvantage is not inherently contradictory and is contingent on the evidence. It may appear hypocritical but it's not necessarily false. What my biggest issue with you is that you discredit Cofnas by engaging with OTHER ideas that Cofnas may or may not hold. You never actually refute Cofnas' arguments itself.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 08:24:07 2018 No.11536529

>>11536521
>Believing in jewish genetic advantage and denying black genetic disadvantage is not inherently contradictory and is contingent on the evidence.
Yes, indeed.
BUT Cofnas says that higher IQ is part of the DEFAULT HYPOTHESIS. So he is saying (and he is a race realist) that we should start out by assuming racial differences are part of the reason and then look for evidence which refutes or supports this. Something the people enraged by Watson certainly weren't comfortable with, after all, subscribing to the default hypothesis, although potentially wrong, can't be too much of a mistake, especially if you want to do research on that area.

>What my biggest issue with you is that you discredit Cofnas
No, read my post.
I have no Idea who is correct. I was arguing neither for nor against Cofnas or MacDonald, I was just saying that Cofnas's methods applied to other areas may lead to conclusions some people who support him would like to deny.
He isn't guilty of that hypocrisy, but others are.

>You never actually refute Cofnas' arguments itself.
Because I didn't even try to, as I stated in my post.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 08:37:19 2018 No.11536548 >>11536529 MacDonald use race realism to justify his arguments. Race realism disproves MacDonald's arguments. Anti-race realists can simply say that race realism is worthless and does not provide any evidence to support any conclusions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 08:39:26 2018 No.11536555 File: 303 KB, 3840x2160, D74BF417-131D-4358-AC60-1DBC8BF80B6A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I thought this quote was fake but it’s real and now I think it’s actually pretty based

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 08:46:38 2018 No.11536574

>>11536548
>MacDonald use race realism to justify his arguments
Not really. He talks about Jewish evolutionary strategy, which is supposed to explain Jewish behavior. That doesn't rely on Jews being genetically different to gentiles, although he accepts race realism and it is part of some of his arguments.
MacDonald argues that it isn't just genes.

>Race realism disproves MacDonald's arguments
Not really, Cofnas is significantly more nuanced then that.
He argued that the default hypothesis "it's just genes" (+ Jews living in more urban areas) already explains everything and that the evolutionary strategy which MacDonald claims exists, isn't there.

>Anti-race realists can simply say that race realism is worthless and does not provide any evidence to support any conclusions.
Of course, but then they have to condemn Cofnas too and drift more towards MacDonald who argues that there is something more then genes going on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 08:48:02 2018 No.11536578 >>11536476 What do you think they're from?

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 08:55:31 2018 No.11536609

>>11536548
not really. I'd prefer it if we constructed environments that didn't reward covert ethnocentricity. we should reward positive feedback loops, stability and non-disruptive strategies. building a society on a foundation of white self-flagellation isn't a good situation, it's just exploitative and unstable. we aren't actually overcoming ethnocentricity, we're merely disallowing one group to engage in it

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 09:03:13 2018 No.11536638

/ourgoy/ Richard Spencer wrote an interesting essay, which includes some thoughts about the Jews as well

>Similarly, what Nietzsche admires in the Jews’ “optimal strategy” is not their apartness in itself, but their potential to achieve “mastery over Europe” (BGE VIII: §251). Indeed, Nietzsche scolds the Jews for trying to assimilate into national cultures. Were these indestructible, nomadic people not capable of much more, for better and for worse? In making such claims, Nietzsche does not reveal himself to be a kind of “Jewish supremacist,” so to speak. The Jew, who has survived persecution and attempted annihilation—survived even national assimilation and who has built international networks—are an image, at least in part, of what a “Good European” might be.26 But the Ashkenazim’s international culture and “morality in the grand style,” which has been developed into a variety of ethical philosophies, make them particularly well suited for the governance of the continent.

https://www.radixjournal.com/2018/07/politics-in-the-grand-style/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 09:07:11 2018 No.11536651 /pol/ pls go and stay go

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 09:10:03 2018 No.11536663 >>11536651 /leftypol/ pls go and stay go Damn...i can say it too

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 09:13:33 2018 No.11536673 >>11536229 Most of them are to busy actually educating themselves. They don't have time to post le frog maymays

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 09:16:04 2018 No.11536678
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>>11536474
It's not controversial to claim that Jews tend to be overrepresented in all intellectual, political, and scientific movements that are not overtly anti-Semitic primarily because of their high IQ.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 09:20:52 2018 No.11536714

>>11536678
>It's not controversial to claim that Jews tend to be overrepresented in all intellectual, political, and scientific movements that are not overtly anti-Semitic primarily because of their high IQ.
Exactly.
But it is if you replace Jews with whites.
I already mentioned people like Watson or Rushton, who got a lot of flak for suggesting exactly that.

I also think it is absolutely false that Jews are overrepresented in academia because of their higher average IQ, they are a tiny part of their population and for almost all IQ ranges relevant to academia they are, in raw numbers, heavily outnumbered by whites. Cofnas argues a bit more then that.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:03:18 2018 No.11536846
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I honestly don't see how people can be so hypocritical as white supremacists. If white people are better then you would have never been in this position in the first place. If anything caiming the jews control everything makes them the master race. but of course you only want the horse you have stakes in to win, because you don't really care about the natural order of things, just your ego.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:10:32 2018 No.11536864 File: 12 KB, 526x268, xVTcnTx_d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11535552 The Cofnas critique was literally just Naxalt + the IQ meme. Displaying the exception is not an argument against the rule.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:13:01 2018 No.11536873

>>11536846
"White supremacism" is a strawman position which nobody actually holds. You're being confused by the language games the left likes to play. If you would listen to guys like Jared Taylor or Richard Spencer they're very clear in that they don't whites are better than everyone.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:13:17 2018 No.11536874

>>11536846
>I honestly don't see how people can be so hypocritical as white supremacists
Why are you bringing them up?
Neither Cofnas nor MacDonald believe in the supremacy of whites over other groups.

MacDonald, I believe, wants separation of whites from non whites, which is the total opposite of supremacy. He doesn't want whites to be the conquerors of the non whites hordes, he wants to leave them alone.

> If anything caiming the jews control everything
What does that have to with either MacDonald or Cofnas? Both acknowledge Jewish Overrepresentation, eg. in academia.
None claim they control everything.

Why did you post this? It is entirely unrelated.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:13:54 2018 No.11536875 >>11535769 T. has no idea what they're talking about beyond seeing a few /pol/ memes

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:14:43 2018 No.11536877

>>11535707
The western Jews racemixing thing is a total meme. Jews do have a slightly higher intermarriage rate than non-Jews, but the majority of Ashkenazi Jews are greater than 50% Ashkenazi Jewish by Ancestry. I don't know what you think you have to gain by lying about reality, but it isn't going to delay the inevitable. If Jews continue to collectively work in parasitic ways that are damaging to the host country, they will be expelled here just as they were everywhere else, taking mishlinges like myself with them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:14:56 2018 No.11536879 File: 41 KB, 800x450, brainlettttt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11536673 >this post

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:18:05 2018 No.11536889

>>11535769
This tells me you have literally no idea what you're talking about and have never actually read the book. Get the fuck out of here you lying faggot.

If you want it from another angle, read Ron Unz' (A New York Jew) Myth of American Meritocracy

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:21:23 2018 No.11536895

>>11536846
Essentially the argument is that whites are so much better that the altruism we've imbedded into our civilization - something found nowhere else in the world, the other civilizations being much more cruel - is precisely what gives it a weak spot to fifth columnists (plurality of secular jews)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:30:08 2018 No.11536917 >>11535531 Go back to r/chadright

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:43:45 2018 No.11536954 File: 160 KB, 1280x1109, 17ne88qv51v01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11536229 Lmao that meme was based off this one

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:45:17 2018 No.11536962 >>11536673 Wew lad

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:55:14 2018 No.11537005 >>11536864 > The Cofnas critique was literally just Naxalt + the IQ meme + exposing that hack MacDonald as misrepresenting sources and distorting history while posing as an arbiter of truth

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:57:20 2018 No.11537012 >>11535429 Inb4 that Polish sperglord that spams that stupid book allover /pol/ and reddit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:09:04 2018 No.11537044 >>11536879 Projection: The post

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:09:32 2018 No.11537048 >>11536954 ....hence why you can't meme

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:09:38 2018 No.11537049

>>11537012
Let me guess, loser, you still haven't even read the book.

That's alright. Even though you are stupid and inferior, I pity you and choose to help.

Here is the link.

https://archive.org/details/TheCultureOfCritiqueAnEvolutionaryAnalysisOf

Think you are clever enough to click it without drooling too much?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:11:12 2018 No.11537056 >>11537044 >He's defending that autism Yikes

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:15:17 2018 No.11537074 >>11537049 Read the book, then read Cofnas' critical analysis that completely shreds any skerrick of credibility that MacDonald ever had using pure logic and fact based evidence.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:15:58 2018 No.11537080 File: 413 KB, 800x800, 1531346903781.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11537049 Here he is, straight at it with childish ad hominem attacks making absolutely zero attempt to justify why anyone should ever consider reading that drivel

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:21:03 2018 No.11537103

>>11536609
You can't avoid innate advantages that certain ethnicities confer to them. The enthocenterism is unavoidable. The only way to break it is to shatter the innate preference for the ingroup. You could try eugenics but I suppose that's not something that antiracerealists will do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:26:00 2018 No.11537128 Shit book. Read E. Michael Jones instead

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:38:51 2018 No.11537183

>>11537005
Get out of here. Cofnas literally talks about Noam Chomsky and Karl Marx as being "Anti-Jewish" and then accuses MacDonald of Cherry picking/misinterpreting sources. If you think Noam Chomsky or Karl Marx are anti-Jewish you're a fucking moron or are purposely lying.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:40:49 2018 No.11537193 >>11537074 Cofnas' analysis is intentionally misleading and he does the exact things that he is accusing MacDonald of doing. Misrepresentations of sources and evidence are literally everywhere in his critique.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:43:22 2018 No.11537200 >>11537183 Bizarre post. Noam Chomsky is one of the more prominent critics of Israel, and Karl Marx held extremely anti-Jewish views.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:49:58 2018 No.11537225

>>11537200
Noam Chomsky is critical of Israel, but he is not critical of the Jewish moral paradigm. The same goes with Marx, he's critical of Jews to the extent that they are the bourgeois, but then proposes a system that embraces Judaic morality and Talmudic argumentation at its core.

A perfect world as imagined by Marx or Chomsky would still have Jews in the primacy of power, as their entire world views are dictated by an adherence to a morality that is Jewish to its core.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:50:02 2018 No.11537226 >>11537193 >no you! Lol.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:51:06 2018 No.11537231 >>11537183 I'm literally a natsoc and even I know Marx was very anti semitic

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:53:43 2018 No.11537237 >>11537225 >A perfect world as imagined by Marx or Chomsky would still have Jews in the primacy of power What kind of world wouldn't have Jews in power, seeing how they (at least the Ashkenazis) are smarter and better educated?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:55:42 2018 No.11537254 >>11537225 >he is not critical of the Jewish moral paradigm Wasn't it just yesterday when Noam Chomsky claimed that Israeli interference in US elections were far worse than anything Russia may have done.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:55:46 2018 No.11537255

>>11537231
Marx was anti-Semitic to the extent that Jews were the bourgeois. He had no issues basing his entire moral system on talmudic discourse, and the anti-strength Jewish morality, and it was almost entirely Jews who picked up and ran with his work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:57:24 2018 No.11537260 >>11537237 Do you actually want an answer or are you just posturing? I could go into it in detail and suggest further readings, but you likely aren't actually speaking in good faith.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:58:11 2018 No.11537264 >>11535552 (((debunked))) Yeah im sure you are right, Ismael

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:59:15 2018 No.11537269 >>11537264 ad hom

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:00:40 2018 No.11537275

>>11537254
Being anti-Israel is not the same as being Anti-Jewish. There have always been anti-Zionist Jews, and none of them have been opposed to a universal application of Jewish morality to non-Jewish people and the Judiazation of American institutions. He postures about opposing Israel, but then advocates for fundamentally Jewish global bolshevism, and seems to have no problem with Jewish over representation in nearly every hall of power in America.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:02:01 2018 No.11537281 >>11537275 >advocates for fundamentally Jewish global bolshevism, and seems to have no problem with Jewish over representation in nearly every hall of power in America. link me to the source :^)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:02:30 2018 No.11537283 >>11537226 Oh, so exposing how he projects the very things he is doing (a very Jewish thing to do) onto MacDonald isn't allowed?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:03:08 2018 No.11537286 >>11537283 point them out, i'll wait

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:05:13 2018 No.11537296 >>11536846 Classic jewry.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:07:03 2018 No.11537303 >>11537260 Please, do tell.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:07:31 2018 No.11537306 >>11537269 On phone, cant waste time arguing with a jew. Or worse. A non jew defending jewry.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:11:40 2018 No.11537318

>>11535429
Its a pretty uneven book which is obscured because people just respond to it politically. Some chapters are better than others (Jews really are behind Mass immigration).

His deficiencies follow from his method/the nature of Evopsych claims. He, and evopsych more generally, tend to retreat from depth psychology while offering only a pseudo-account of how society shapes people. The acknowledgment that it does is used to paper over the gap of "how". Group Evoloutionary strategy is just Freudian Second-Nature but read as first-nature (nature-nature).

Because Macdonald retreats from depth psychology and he because he needs to make the case that this group evolutionary strategy is biological and thus in a certain sense innate, he ends up advancing psychologically simplistic readings of many of the intellectuals. Theyre either linearly employing the group-evolutionary strategy or doing so with false consciousness. As a result he downplays how the various thinkers understood their own project in a way that caricatures them and their influence.

He really doesn't get Freud (I would urge Macdonald fans to read Philip Rieff's The Triumph of the Therapeutic for a better take on Psychology's undermining of the west.). His New York Intellectuals chapter is misleading as a bunch of those Jews became conservative as success came and reverse their earlier views. The Frankfurt school chapter is alright on the Authoritarian personality as what Macdonald finds objectionable is how that book was accepted Talking about the Frankfurt school as a unified organization, rather than a series of working disagreements suggests he didn't read them. Its important to note that several of the other volumes in the "Studies in Prejudice" series directly contradict one or another aspects of the Authoritarian Personality -something noted by the authors of books Macdonald cites but ignored by him.

White Nationalism doesn't really need Kevin Macdonald's account of Jews to ground itself and the diehard defense of it is silly.

Cofnas' challenge is fine. Cofnas is mostly interesting because he accepts Racial Differences -though it remains to be seen how fixed he believes those differences to be- but doesn't seem to accept the politics that people take as following from the *fact* of racial difference/ Which is mildly interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:13:56 2018 No.11537331 File: 90 KB, 1056x869, 1485407767622.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11537306 >tfw too smart to debate you Are /pol/tards even capable of arguing or can they only spew internet memes?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:15:45 2018 No.11537343 >>11537255 You should read more Marx. I would never maintain that antisemitism is somehow essential to Marx's thought, but Marx was personally antisemitic.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:23:23 2018 No.11537379

>>11537343
While being the nephew of a Rabbi and becoming the ideological basis for the movements of primarily Jewish intellectuals. Sure. He wrote "On The Jewish Question" where he identifies the capitalistic world as being integrally linked with Judaism, but then his views conveniently became adopted by primarily Jewish thinkers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:27:42 2018 No.11537409 >>11537331 JIDF please go

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:29:24 2018 No.11537416 >>11537409 Either post an actual argument or fuck off back to your safe space

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:29:54 2018 No.11537421 >>11537331 >>11537409 >literally proves the meme >the both of you do

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:30:24 2018 No.11537424

>>11535623

>Are Jews on average more tribal than other groups? Probably, but that's expected given their history of persecution.

in order to be a fucking jew you have to chop a piece of your dick off, of course they're more tribal than anyone else you idiot

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:31:10 2018 No.11537427

>>11537379
Once again, I am not insisting that Marx's antisemitism is essential to his thought because it isn't. Saying that it different than saying that Marx is personally antisemitic -which he was. Learn to keep thinking even when the word jew appears.
Wikipedia faggot

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:31:21 2018 No.11537429
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>>11537303
Firstly, it assumes that the current position of high influence is actually the result of meritocratic efforts. The American Myth of Meritocracy by Ron Unz' has significant data to suggest otherwise. Even relative to the Jewish number of "high achieving high school students" (which around 3x more likely to be, due in no small part to the IQ difference) Jews are over represented in the institutions of the elite by 200-400% depending on the institution.

www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/

The system without undue Jewish influence would likely be fairly similar to the US pre-1960. There would likely be more ethnic segregation, localized traditional culture, an understanding of rights being a localized phenomena requiring a collective to protect it (rather than some unjustifiable universalist thing as many Jewish intellectuals believe), and likely racialized collectivization would be present for whites as it was prior to the ascent of Judaism in America post-WW2.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:31:55 2018 No.11537431 >>11537416 That is my argument. Also the talmud.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:32:56 2018 No.11537434 >>11536638 Richard Spencer is a homosexual Marxist deep state operative

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:33:03 2018 No.11537435 >>11537431 So you're just shitposting then? Okay

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:34:53 2018 No.11537446 >>11537379 Even assuming that his anti-Semitic views were adopted by primarily Jewish "thinkers", which they weren't, that doesn't make those views any less anti-Semitic.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:35:16 2018 No.11537449

>>11537427
I haven't stopped thinking when the word "Jew" appears. Contrary to that, I have learned to examine why it is we consider it normal for a population of less than 3% to have a majority of Journalists, massive over-representation in Academia, massive over-representation in finance and corporate executive positions, 4/9 of the supreme court, and enough extra governmental influence via NGO's and PACs like AIPAC and ZOA to shift the American republic into a kafka-esque kritarchy where the court is the ultimate sovereign and people genuinely believe that constitutional rights are applied to non-citizens.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:35:41 2018 No.11537452 >>11537429 What do you think of historian Chrisopher Lasch? If you have not already read it I recommend you check out "The True and Only Heaven"

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:37:24 2018 No.11537464

>>11537446
I'm saying it is not a real attempt at critique. It is like neoliberal and progressive Jews who say "I don't like Israel" while not meaningfully addressing the question of why it is considered legitimate for them to have an explicit ethnostate, while any suggestion of a white homeland is fundamentally immoral.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:39:26 2018 No.11537476 >>11537452 I don't know very much about Christopher Lasch. I'll check out the book when I'm done reading my current stack.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:40:14 2018 No.11537481 >>11537449 Sure, and those are all reasonable concerns. They're also totally irrelevant to my point the fact remains that you collapsed the distinction between Marxism and Marx as soon as it was offhandedly remarked that Marx was antisemitic.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:42:41 2018 No.11537495 [DELETED]

>>11537464
>“What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money... An organization of society which would abolish the preconditions for huckstering, and therefore the possibility of huckstering, would make the Jew impossible”
That is an inherently anti-Semitic view.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:02:28 2018 No.11537577

>>11537481
Marx wrote "On The Jewish Question", which is the only source of his "anti-semitism" that I've ever seen demonstrated, very early into his career. He then later went on to associate with the Communist League, International Workingmen's Association, and wrote for the New York Tribune (all of which had significant Jewish associations and financing). His moral outlook and his materialism in his later (and more important) works were both significantly influenced by his Jewish outlook if we are to believe modern Marx Scholars like Terry Eagleton in his book "Why Marx was Right".

The archetype of the self-hating Jew has been around for quite some time, and yet Jews still have a significantly stronger ethnic identity than non-Jewish whites, and Jews are never at the forefront of examining Jewish power.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:20:13 2018 No.11537647 do you not like the jews? that fucked up, dont you know they were the ones in the holocaust?

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:25:36 2018 No.11537670

>>11537286
There are a few. Let's look at his quotation of Rousseau and his implication that it was in fact Gentiles who brought forth and popularized the myth of the "Noble Savage". His interpretation of Rousseau's passage as suggesting that Rousseau was anti-Western civilization, or suggesting "civilization was a mistake" is purposefully misusing Rousseau's thought. Discourse on inequality doesn't consider civilization to be a mistake, but rather an understanding of how natural self-interest led to the development of "private property ethics" and consequently the development of society. Rousseau's critique was that civilization was pointed in the wrong direction, leading towards further distancing of man from his natural pity towards others, and that society should be oriented towards gradual progress towards "equality". Cofnas's use of Rousseau, and haphazardly linking the French Revolution to MacDonald's accusation of Boas' "Romantic Primitivism" is either poorly thought out or intentionally misleading.

When Boas became a leading figure in anthropology, he quickly rose to prominence specifically because his views were so against the contemporary ideas of what he declared "scientific racism". His views didn't become the primary opinion of Academic Anthropology until after WW2 and the distancing of American Anthropologists from previous works on eugenics. He personally had influence, but it was the works of his students in the 1950s and 1960s which established the current position of the American Anthropology Association of race denial and racial social constructivism.

Cofnas points to the gentiles who influenced Boas' but doesn't at all acknowledge where he differs from the majority of classical liberal thinkers who supported race science as it was then understood, including some of the thinkers who he directly cites.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:40:04 2018 No.11537730

>>11537286
He also does this bit where he takes Jews who are anti-zionist and conflates that with being "Anti-Jewish interests". Anti-Zionism does not mean anti-Judaism. Hannah Andret, (which is probably the closest example he can cite to anti-Judaism among the 15 Jews he mentioned in "Freud and Psychoanalysis") worked directly for the German Zionist Organization and had her first American works published through the journal "Jewish Social Studies". This conflation of Anti-Israel with "Anti-Jewish" cannot be anything other than intentional. Many Jews throughout history have been Anti-Israel, yet the ones who are are not antagonistic to the existence and propensity towards power aggregation of the Jewish diaspora. In fact most of them promote it as a means of proliferating the Jewish materialist morality, and as a means of securing safety from the potential to exclusionary practices that follows being a minority in another host country.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:41:52 2018 No.11537741 >>11537281 sweate he doesn't have to do your research for you xD

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:41:54 2018 No.11537742 >>11537435 Read>>11537449 and come back

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:44:06 2018 No.11537749

>>11537647
I just found out about it yesterday. How could those Germans be such ASSHOLES to attack the Jews for LITERALLY NO REASON! He pushed them out of society and into camps, and the next thing you know 2 to 300,000 of them DIED of Typhus and starvation. A DUH, WHO WOULD LET THAT HAPPEN???? WHY WASN'T HE STOPPED EARLIER????

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:45:10 2018 No.11537753 >>11537647 nice snipe post, idiot

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:46:01 2018 No.11537755 >>11536479 >like? Dennis Prager

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:46:03 2018 No.11537756 >>11537647 Wait really? Aw man now I take back everything. I love jews now

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:50:11 2018 No.11537771

>>11537281
His stated position of "Anarcho-Syndaclism" is nonsensical irreality.
In speeches like this, he talks about wanting a "better solution to global equality", but his solution towards fixing "structural inequalities" within the global world order, would require significant global government influence over markets, if not direct planning to achieve equity on fundamentally unequal peoples.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Iq5K7X9UA

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 14:03:46 2018 No.11537834 >>11537756 JEWS ROCK!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 14:07:15 2018 No.11537845 >>11537449 >>11537742 >have a majority of Journalists, massive over-representation in Academia, massive over-representation in finance and corporate executive positions Then post actual statistics to prove this and not muh anecdotal evidence

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 14:39:28 2018 No.11537944 https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2018/04/24/the-jewish-question-an-empirical-examiniation/

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 14:53:37 2018 No.11538006

>>11536714
It's a numbers game. The simple fact that there are so many more white people than Jewish people means that there would be more high IQ whites than high IQ Jews, even if Jews have a higher average IQ. Something besides IQ accounts for the over representation of Jews in certain fields. Jewish in-group preference and ethnic networking isn't a far-fetched hypothesis.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:03:34 2018 No.11538061

>>11538006
>Jewish in-group preference and ethnic networking isn't a far-fetched hypothesis.

Is there any proof of this, not trying to argue I'm just curious. Haven't jews begun to be discriminated against by elite universities along with asians due to their overrepresentation?

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:05:41 2018 No.11538077
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>>11538061
>Is there any proof of this, not trying to argue I'm just curious. Haven't jews begun to be discriminated against by elite universities
Jews are 67% of Harvard graduate school students.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:07:27 2018 No.11538087

>>11538061
>Haven't jews begun to be discriminated against by elite universities along with asians due to their overrepresentation?
Pretty sure Jews are categorized as "whites" in that case, which as a category is being discriminated against, but Jews should still be significantly over-represented.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:13:21 2018 No.11538112

>>11538077
I'm not denying that jews are overrepresented, but I dont see any explanation other than the fact they have higher iqs. Affirmative action has caused both jews and asians to be less likely to get into elite schools, even if they are still overrepresented.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:14:40 2018 No.11538116 >>11538087 Oh, that makes sense now. Still it hardly seems like its because of in group preference

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:18:57 2018 No.11538144 >>11538112 Are you retarded? You think jews are 67% of Harvard grad students due to high IQs? There are way more high IQ whites, this is blatant nepotism by tribal people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:20:32 2018 No.11538150 >>11538144 >Then what's your explanation anon?

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:20:44 2018 No.11538152

>>11538061
>>11538077
I think Ron Unz (who's Jewish) wrote a detailed article several years ago discussing the over representation of Jews in admissions to Ivy League universities. I'll get around to reading it later when I'm bored.

http://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:23:26 2018 No.11538170

>>11537845
Well, there is a bit of difficulty in direct statistics, as nobody seems to actually be taking them, but I'll see what we can do.

>Jewish Television Media Executives:
David Levy, President of Turner Broadcasting Systems (CNN)
Brian Roberts, CEO of Comcast (NBC)
Bob Iger CEO of Disney (ABC), received the position from Michael Eisner in 2007
Dana Walden CEO of Fox, born Dana Freedman to a Jewish Family in LA in 1965
Ronald Meyer, Chairman of NBC Universal
Haim Saban, Owner of Univision
Leslie Moonvies, CEO of CBS

>Jewish Newspaper involvement
>NYT
Arthur Sulzberger Jr. (Half Jewish) CEO of NYT
Arthur Gregg Sulzberger, Publisher of NYT, son of CEO
James Bennet, Editorial Board of NYT
Michael Slackman, International Editor
Jason Stallman, Sports Editor
Will Shortz, Crossword puzzles department head (though that probably isn't particularly relevant desu)
Jake Silverstein, New York Times Magazine
David Brooks, Columnist
Ross Douthat, Columnist (Ethnically jewish though a practicing catholic)
Thomas Friedman, Columnist
Michelle Goldberg, Columnist
Paul Krugman, Columnist
Bari Weiss, Columnist
Bret Stephens, Columnist
(7/12 of their full time columnists are Jews)
Erik Asimov, Food critic
Peter Baker, White House correspondent (Half Jew)
Jesse Green, Theater Critic
Michael Grynbaum, Media Correspondent
Maggie Habberman, White House Correspondent
(This is taking a while, sorry)
Michael Kimmelman, David E Sanger, Charlie Savage, part time correspondent

I'm getting kind of bored of it but you get the point, if you look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_New_York_Times_employees there is a massive amount of Jewish representation, and that's just public facing employees. That doesn't include board of directors which 7/12 of them are Jews or half jews.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:23:30 2018 No.11538171 >>11538150 Fuck, I'm not even in the right thread

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:25:51 2018 No.11538184

>>11538150
Blatant nepotism and the establishment of a moral hierarchy which privileges behavioral patterns more common among Jews than Gentiles. The allowance of a Jewish identity as a valid concept and a point of pride while White Identity is considered to be hateful and racist.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:27:11 2018 No.11538194

>>11538152
I have read that. He agrees. Jews are nepotistic desert people, they are not meritocratic like whites, so when they get a foot in the door they fill it with their tribesmen.

Unz is a jew who is aware that jewing will inevitably lead to the coming jewish expulsion.

http://age-of-treason.com/2018/07/17/ron-unz-on-jewing/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:28:14 2018 No.11538200 File: 590 KB, 690x5604, 1531491457278.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11538170 Here's some more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:37:47 2018 No.11538271 File: 97 KB, 455x648, (((Monster))).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11537845 The Boomer Meme is just a guerilla marketing campaign

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 16:02:39 2018 No.11538397 >>11537944 Interesting stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 16:09:01 2018 No.11538427 File: 27 KB, 320x265, I6LqXf4DpsCJcxaBgHqH1h9FenV1bZql9quAP3LNs-A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where were you when Zizek eternally BTFO MacDonald? http://www.unz.com/isteve/slavoj-zizek-on-kevin-macdonalds-culture-of-critique/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 16:53:11 2018 No.11538643 >>11538427 Err, doesn't look like it. Good find though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 17:41:09 2018 No.11538871 >>11538200 >the jew leaves the thread once Hard evidence is provided Again, jewry at Best

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 18:13:56 2018 No.11539029 File: 120 KB, 996x720, 1515294212494.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11535429 >mfw I thought this thread was about the the society of the spectacle the whole time

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 18:16:57 2018 No.11539046 File: 84 KB, 850x400, quote-my-main-interest-right-now-is-to-expose-the-jews-this-is-a-lot-bigger-than-me-they-re-not-just-bobby-fischer-228926.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bobby Fischer was right

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 18:24:34 2018 No.11539081

>>11538427
Why does this always happen. Why does Zizek make a perfectly reasoned right-wing argument, write some pithy sentence at the end with no counter-argument, and everyone yells 'BTFO!'? Why is this? Why is it that entirely dismissing right-wing argument rather than arguing against them is considered the ultimate display of intellect?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 18:42:54 2018 No.11539144 >>11539081 Because he doesnt have a counterargument.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 18:47:05 2018 No.11539162 >>11536476 they're UUIDs which means a script was used to store them with a unique name in whatever shared filesystem or dropbox the shills are posting from

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 18:49:43 2018 No.11539173 >>11537005 > misrepresenting sources and distorting history while posing as an arbiter of truth stop the presses (literally, please)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 18:55:22 2018 No.11539196 >>11535429 The articles on The Occidental Observer about Nietzsche are quite retarded, so I've lost interest in even wanting to read this book.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 19:00:12 2018 No.11539212 >>11535706 >Cofnas' attempted debunking was widely destroyed months ago. Where?

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 19:02:55 2018 No.11539224

>>11539212
Here, for one,

https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/05/on-the-kevin-macdonald-nathan-cofnas-debate-part-1/

https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/05/on-the-kevin-macdonald-nathan-cofnas-debate-part-2/

https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/05/the-macdonald-cofnas-debate-part-3/

https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/05/macdonald-cofnas-debate-part-4/

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 19:16:15 2018 No.11539270

>>11539224
>Cofnas challenges CofC as a work of scholarship in two primary ways, one I would describe as fair, and the other as unfair. Cofnas’ fair objection involves proposing what he calls the “Default Hypothesis.” According to Cofnas, the phenomena MacDonald describes can be more parsimoniously explained by high Jewish IQ and the high concentration of Jews in urban centers. In Cofnas’ words (emphasis mine), “Because of their above-average intelligence and concentration in influential urban areas, Jews in recent history have been overrepresented in all major intellectual and political movements, including conservative movements, that were not overtly anti-Semitic.”

>Of course, all theories should be measured against a simpler, more elegant default theory which explains the same thing, but with less effort. In the spirit of Occam’s Razor, the simplest explanation is likely the best one, and this has played out countless times in the past. As such, Cofnas does not have to work as hard as MacDonald, who admits that his theory is more ambitious than Cofnas’. In a sense, this debate resembles a race in which one runner has to run 500 yards (MacDonald) while the other has to run only 100 yards (Cofnas). If it seems unfair, it’s not. This is exactly the approach one should take when suspecting a theory is more complicated than it needs to be.

>Cofnas’ unfair challenge to CofC involves his resorting to universalism when MacDonald never intended his work to be interpreted in such a manner. MacDonald limited his treatment of Jews to a handful of highly influential twentieth-century intellectual and political movements and explicitly ruled out all other movements that may have been dominated or populated by Jews. Cofnas, on the other hand, attempts to refute MacDonald by bringing these other movements into the discussion and showing how they undermine MacDonald’s central thesis. In other words, he’s criticizing a book MacDonald didn’t write. He seems to view CofC as flawed scholarship not so much because its conclusions are not logically derived from specific sets of evidence (although there is some of this in Cofnas’ approach) but because MacDonald never adopted a universalist approach to begin with.

This sounds more like he sort-of agrees with Cofnas but has sour grapes about someone not agreeing with him.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 19:37:46 2018 No.11539347 >>11538061 They were for a little while, but once a critical number of Jews were reached, Jews began to discriminate in favor of other Jews.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 19:42:16 2018 No.11539366

>>11539270
Not sure what you mean, but Cofnas' rebuttal was weak and mostly involved naxalt or outlier examples that weren't even really outliers since they too could also be explained in tribalistic terms.

Anyone who has studied jews in depth understands how everything is done to benefit the tribe, and how every decision they make is filtered through that scope. It's how they are wired and how they were selected to behave. And it's not even controversial or complicated, which is why MacDonald's most fundamental premises are more or less irrefutable and obvious.

It's nature.

The argument involves whites pointing out obvious things along the lines of: "the giraffe evolved a long neck so that it could more easily reach food in high places."

And the jewish counter-argument as: "you can't PROVE that and show the giraffe's neck literally growing."

And with jews, as a small, urban group of itenerants incapable of defending themselves, they evolved to deceive, corrupt, and subvert host peoples as a strategy to gain resources, frequently through crypsis -- pretending to be members of the host group in order to divert resources to itself, and attack it by promoting things that are bad for the host group.

It's not that complicated.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 19:57:38 2018 No.11539416

>>11539366
The rest of your post beyond the first sentence is some shitty generalization of the argument at hand so I'm just going to ignore it.

>Not sure what you mean, but Cofnas' rebuttal was weak and mostly involved naxalt or outlier examples that weren't even really outliers since they too could also be explained in tribalistic terms.
I would like to see how these outliers could be explained in tribalistic terms, please enlighten me

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:04:16 2018 No.11539447 >>11539416 summation* not generalization

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:15:46 2018 No.11539505 >>11537318 Weird how nobody has replied to this. How does MacDonald misunderstand Freud?

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:16:24 2018 No.11539509

>>11539416
It doesn't sound like you're actually interested in learning about the jewish problem. Cofnas failed rebuttal of MacDonald's work is old news now and you're more or less pouting like a girl with a bad attitude and demanding others go over it with you while making it clear that you already have your mind made up.

Not very conducive to discourse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:18:32 2018 No.11539519 >>11539509 I allowed you to make your case and you give me nothing, the only person to blame here is yourself.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:24:04 2018 No.11539555
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>>11539505
Chapter 4.

>>11539519
What are you talking about? You're asking people to explain things to you while showing no interest in actually understanding the material. Be a big boy and start reading if you want to take part in the discussion here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:40:35 2018 No.11539617 >>11539555 I allowed him to make his point about outliers being explained in tribalistic terms, something which the link he provided does not explain.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:50:02 2018 No.11539653 >>11539617 So you read all 4 parts, and have read the Culture of Critique before?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:56:06 2018 No.11539676 >>11539653 I have skimmed through all four parts of the links but they don't seem to bring up the subject

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 21:01:51 2018 No.11539692 >>11539676 Have you read the Culture of Critique and are you by chance jewish?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 21:06:44 2018 No.11539710 >>11539692 I am not jewish and i haven't read the CoC, although it seems that MacDonald does not address what i posted in it since Cofnas brought it up in his rebutal

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 21:26:20 2018 No.11539782 >>11539710 Why are you interested in the rebuttal debates if you aren't even familiar with the work? Read CofC first.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 21:52:37 2018 No.11539882 >>11536485 >narrow range >psychology >sociology >pol sci >criminology >economics

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 21:53:39 2018 No.11539888 >>11536485 >diversity of opinion https://heterodoxacademy.org/research/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:04:33 2018 No.11539919 >>11539782 I was simply replying to his claim that the outliers can be explained in tribalistic terms.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:05:03 2018 No.11539925 >>11539888 >linking to fucking Peterson as an argument ...lad

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:16:39 2018 No.11539956

>>11539919
This is a common jewish argument technique anyone familiar with the JQ has seen over and over. Part of the jewish strategy involves taking a position on a side not aligned with jewish interests and subverting that thing into working for jewish interests. Like the neocons. They weren't right wing at all, they were pretending to be right wing so they could mold the right wing into a thing that worked for them.

Jews are not ideological. They will take any position then mold that position into something that's best for jews. Everything they do is tribal and can be explained in those terms.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:24:36 2018 No.11539988

>>11539956
I'm Hispanic. Also i have no idea what you're trying to say with this post, are you implying that i am some sort of Jewish covert for simply questioning one of his claims? It is unfair that you can just claim someone is biased in this site when most users are anonymous.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:31:19 2018 No.11540016 File: 106 KB, 1024x940, 1532777079257.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11535552 Oh gawd goyim dont read it! It's been debunked I swear!! McDonald is a vile antisemite!!!!11

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:32:42 2018 No.11540023 >>11539988 He is jealous his tribal group is supposedly losing, while claiming tribality is bad while jews do it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:36:09 2018 No.11540036 >>11539988 That was most definitely not implied, but since you're a nonwhite you're irrelevant anyway. You'll be peaceably sent back home after the jews are dealt with.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:38:18 2018 No.11540041 >>11540023 Not true. The issue isn't that jews are tribal, there's nothing wrong with that; it's that they are allowed to live in the west at all.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:39:56 2018 No.11540046

>>11540036
I am very skeptical of any ethnostate, Isreal is already a shithole as it is and it's not even fully committed to the idea. It's baffling to me how white supremacists think they will be in charge of some utopia, as if they are perfect beings of some sort.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:42:08 2018 No.11540051 >>11540041 And why is that? Whites did move to America, why they don't go back too?

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:44:23 2018 No.11540055

>>11537670
Rousseau claimed that civilisation is NOT the natural human state and felt that civilisation corrupted man, which was in stark contrast to the classical view, notably that of Aristotle. You are being disingenuous to state that his critique was only with the "direction" of civilisation.
The most effective “Boasians” were NOT Jewish, and MacDonald conceded to this fact. Even if we accept that Boas’s commitment to Jewish interests biased his science and made him critique Western society and promote environmentalist, culture-based explanations of human behavior, both Benedict and Mead were strong-willed, charismatic iconoclasts who seemed to be self-directed. It is disingenuous to say that they were just puppets of Boas without any evidence to support this, there is no evidence indicating that they had ever distorted or obscured their findings for ideological ends.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:45:05 2018 No.11540060 Sometime after I figured out that “intellectualism” and intellectual honesty “ are total nonsense. Book is still shit.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:46:57 2018 No.11540064

>>11540046
Jews are gypsies who have never run their own nation. But their failure in such an endeavor has nothing to do with whites who have been successfully running white states and global empires for millennia. Brown people make white nations worse.

>>11540051
Whites did not "move" to America, they created America. There was no America before whites made it.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:50:48 2018 No.11540075

>>11540055
They were rewarded for their behavior because it advanced jewish interests. Jews are not creative, they do not develop intricate plans to fool the goyim. What they are good at, however, is recognizing what is good for them and bad for the host, and guiding or incentivizing those things in directions that are beneficial for their interests and bad for those of the host. That's what people mean when they talk about jewish subversion.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:51:51 2018 No.11540079

>>11540064
>whites who have been successfully running white states and global empires for millennia.
And eventually all those empires fell. You also don't seem to have answered my thoughts on this idea of white perfection; eventually problems will show up in the population of these ethnostates.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:51:55 2018 No.11540080 >>11535429 Never, because I don't read books that /pol/tards recomend.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:54:15 2018 No.11540087 >>11540064 >Whites did not "move" to America, they created America. I'm sure there weren't people in the American content before the Europeans came...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:55:06 2018 No.11540090 >>11540079 They fell because of jews and jewish ideologies, like Christianity in Rome. No one is saying whites are perfect, but we can regulate our own and deal with those problems when they arise, we don't need to import them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:56:22 2018 No.11540099 >>11540064 >Whites did not "move" to America, they created America. There was no America before whites made it We are going to discuss semantics now? Very jewish of you

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:57:20 2018 No.11540103 >>11540087 You mean the people eating each other's hearts who had no awareness of what a continent or a content or anything else was? We fought them and we won.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:08:46 2018 No.11540130 >>11537771 Globalization is not a Jewish conspiracy sweetie.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:10:07 2018 No.11540136

>>11540090
>No one is saying whites are perfect, but we can regulate our own and deal with those problems when they arise, we don't need to import them
I fail to see how whites can solve a problem like say, homosexuality without causing distrust in the government in some capacity.

>>11540103
Yeah because Christians weren't primitive as well at times. You're also dismissing all the tribesmen that fought alongside the Europeans, showing that there was some interest to change this society. If Europeans hadn't put their hands all over it who can say what that society would be like now?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:12:06 2018 No.11540141 You make me wish your Jewish conspiracy was real so we could have an actual white genocide. You fucking people make me sick.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:15:01 2018 No.11540147

>>11538144
>You think jews are 67% of Harvard grad students due to high IQs?
Yes. If the high IQs didn't get them in directly, they at least took advantage of the system which allowed for the nepotistic behavior that did. They certainly aren't physically strong as a group, so there's no other way they would have exploited such a system other than using their brains and their patience over a long span of time.

But I don't support the dominance of any particular race besides the technically skilled elite. This is why I can't really get behind anti-Jewish movements: they are right in pointing out and wanting to combat Jewish nepotistic behavior, but they are wrong in what they consider to be the solution, because they've framed the problem incorrectly. It is not solely Jewish nepotistic behavior, but all nepotistic behavior which is not framed around the technically skilled elite. All such behavior leads to the propagation of mediocre types and is a poor plan for proper eugenics.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:16:07 2018 No.11540151 >>11540103 And jewish supposedly is winning now, and the demographic of America is taking it's rightful course now, that's dialectics for you

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:16:30 2018 No.11540153

>>11540136
>I fail to see how whites can solve a problem like say, homosexuality without causing distrust in the government in some capacity.
???
Your low IQ mestizoness is showing. Whites handled that and many other problems fine for many thousands of years. We'll be fine, thanks for your concern.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:17:37 2018 No.11540159 >>11540153 >Whites handled that and many other problems fine for many thousands of years. ????

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:18:04 2018 No.11540160 >>11540151 You can't even speak English, you won't be taking over jackshit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:20:45 2018 No.11540169 >>11540160 Who cares, soon english will be forgotten as it should be.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:24:48 2018 No.11540185

>>11540153
>Whites handled that
There were some white gays or closeted gays in the course of history, such as Oscar Wilde.

>But Irish people aren't white!
Then that throws a whole other problem with a "White" ethnostate: deciding who is "White" between Europeans and who isn't

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:33:07 2018 No.11540208 >>11540185 No, it doesn't. That's a jewish division meme. Irish were always considered white, and if they were not, they wouldn't have been allowed into the US prior to 1965 when only whites were allowed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:36:59 2018 No.11540220 >>11540208 Alright, so what will be done about homosexuals in white communities and what will be done about those who oppose them?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:37:18 2018 No.11540223 >>11540208 >prior to 1965 when only whites were allowed But there were Asian Americans in the US at the time of Pearl Harbor who were incarcerated temporarily in response to the attack.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:40:47 2018 No.11540230 >>11540220 It'll go back to how it was before. >>11540223 Those were special cases and involved very few people. Asians weren't coming in through Ellis Island, there were occasional boat loads pardoned and given limited working rights, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:43:45 2018 No.11540242 >THIS BOOK IS STUPID AND WRITTEN BY A BRAINLET! >A manifesto written by a NEET about how economics should be run?? BRILLIANT! t. /lit/

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:44:53 2018 No.11540245

>>11540230
>It'll go back to how it was before.
How was it before? Christian suppression of the subject? This won't deal with closeted gays and it won't deal with the degeneracy that comes with the suppression of said subject, like piss tubs and leather gimps. You'll be repeating the Sexual Revolution when these groups eventually gain some sort of traction.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:48:21 2018 No.11540259 >Despotism and tribalism is bad when whites are not winning. t./pol/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:48:51 2018 No.11540261 >>11536229 >I don't find things that go against your worldview amusing, what a revelation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:50:54 2018 No.11540267 >>11540245 Removal of jews then nonwhites is the main priority, the homo question is very low on the list of concerns.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:52:49 2018 No.11540269

>>11540245
Furthermore it is way more possible for a gay person in a more open society to deal with these degenerate tendencies through say, therapy (which there is already skepticism about in white nationalist circles, especially talking about the negative consequences of power structures in relationships which could lead to something like pedophilia, although not always.) instead of corporal punishment. It could also be possible that this movement would gain straight sympathizers thinking the methods used to be too rough, causing discord between the population.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:55:07 2018 No.11540273 >>11540267 And said concern is going to cause the downfall of this society because it won't be properly accounted for. I haven't even gotten to small things like bullying (which whites have shown to not take very lightly).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:55:19 2018 No.11540275 >>11540269 We're talking about jews itt, rabbi, stop sidetracking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:59:57 2018 No.11540287 >>11540275 My issues pertain to the wanting of a white ethnostate, which is part of the subject.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 00:13:48 2018 No.11540342 >>11540259 >it's okay if whites aren't winning in white countries t. psuedo-intellectual chomsky-ist

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 01:02:17 2018 No.11540463 File: 365 KB, 2000x1153, 25e96fb770a6e5e19b0469a351339bc255abf015e7d877a1f5bdd0f01830d0c0.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:58:54 2018 No.11540896 has /pol/ come up with an argument that hasn't been strategically dismantled using facts and logic yet?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:08:31 2018 No.11540922 >>11540896 Your judaism must be clouding your judgment. Facts and logic are on the side of those bringing the JQ to light for others, hence the ever increasing awareness of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:15:33 2018 No.11540940 >>11540922 You people consider the Protocols of the Elder of Zion to be a real jewish plot for fuck sake.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:18:27 2018 No.11540946 >>11540940 Not him, but the book in question here explicitly calls the Protocol of the Elders of Zion a fake.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:31:48 2018 No.11540965 >>11540946 If C of C is this vehemently hated then it has inherent value to be read - even if just to understand the hatred for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:38:19 2018 No.11540983 >>11540965 It's definitely an important book for whites to read. It will click pretty fast for those who pay attention to current events and culture, but brace yourself because the implications ain't pretty.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:39:37 2018 No.11540984 >>11540342 > white countries Please, Europe has been occupied by Muslim empires, Mongolian hordes, and Viking heathens. It’s basically been a used up whore that decided to enter an open relationship

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:48:53 2018 No.11541005

>>11540946

It's still one of the most recommended antisemits book I see recommended along coc. It's even worse then if you're only recommending books that agree with your antijewish bias.

>>11540965
Twilligth was hated too, I wouldn't call it a worthy read.

>>11540983
>get proven coc is worthless shit
>ignore it

Funny how what Hitler said about the jews can be applied to antisemits.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:54:08 2018 No.11541019 >>11541005 Jews cause antisemitism. And the Protocols have never been proven false btw.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:55:23 2018 No.11541023

>>11541005
>It's even worse then if you're only recommending books that agree with your antijewish bias.
I don't get it. Why can't anyone say that one book is good and another one bad.

>Twilligth was hated too
No it wasn't. It was an enormously popular books, which got memed by the internet. If CoC gets a movie adaptation call me.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:08:42 2018 No.11541062

>>11541019
Even if they weren't stolen from another book about Napoleon III (which they were) they're still ridiculous. They read like someone gloating knowing someone that people who disagree with them will read their speech. It's a cartoon plan with nothing serious. No one ever say what to do beside some vague global actions.

>>11541023
It was popular among its target audience, young girls and lonely women but it was still fairly hated.

CoC is extremly popular among its target audience too.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:15:15 2018 No.11541081

>>11541062
>It was popular among its target audience, young girls and lonely women but it was still fairly hated.
>CoC is extremly popular among its target audience too.
And a book about mathematics can be popular among it's target audience too.
So is that book automatically bad/wrong?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:19:29 2018 No.11541098 >>11541081 No I'm saying that it's not because something is hated that it's worth looking into.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:32:08 2018 No.11541135 >>11538170 And what are the actual percentages? A huge list means nothing if the NYT has hundreds of employees. Where is your hard data?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 11:29:43 2018 No.11541159 >>11540230 >It'll go back to how it was before. Ah, the pipe dream of all decadents / traditionalists.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 13:43:30 2018 No.11541701

>>11538152
Ron Unz wrote that he “understands the argument” that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion ”might deserve a place alongside Plato and Machiavelli as a classic of Western political thought.” https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-bolshevik-revolution-and-its-aftermath/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:41:44 2018 No.11541956 >>11541701 So?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:47:26 2018 No.11541981 >>11538271 >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 14:49:20 2018 No.11541989 File: 17 KB, 220x323, Henry Ford.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why read a book by some nobody when you can read a book created by one of the greatest minds in american history

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:43:08 2018 No.11542223 >>11537424 Abrahamic circumcision is very mild stuff compared to the rituals found amongst primitives.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:46:47 2018 No.11542234 >>11542223 >oy vey those niggers will literally enslave rape and eat you >let us skin your dick with our coke nails and give you head until it stops bleeding

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 15:49:14 2018 No.11542242 >>11542234 Just saying, the peoples of Eurasia would be well served by the reintroduction of scarification and mutilation-based ritualism. It is the hallmark of primitive warrior cultures.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:31:07 2018 No.11542407 >>11535623 The jews were a plague to society to begin with. You really think jews were persecuted for absolutely no reason at all?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 16:32:55 2018 No.11542415 >>11542407 > you think she was just raped for no reason what so ever >she was literally asking for it >look what she's wearing! Convincing people takes more than "you really don't think x do you?"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:10:12 2018 No.11543050 >>11542415 They were kicked out for doing the same things they are now that are about to get them kicked out again.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:08:06 2018 No.11543265

>>11539925
its legit research you dumb nigger

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Klein, D. B., & Stern, C. (2009). By the numbers: The ideological profile of professors. In R. Maranto, R. E. Redding, & F. M. Hess (Eds.), The Politically Correct University: Problems, scope, and reforms. Washington D.C.: The AEI Press.
Langbert, M., Quain, A.J., & Klein, D.B. (2016). Faculty voter registration in economics, history, journalism, law, and psychology. Econ Journal Watch 13 (3), 422-451.
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Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:09:08 2018 No.11543270

>>11539925
https://heterodoxacademy.org/resources/library/#1517426935037-4e655b30-3cbd
Martin, C.C. (2016). How ideology has hindered sociological insight. The American Sociologist 47: 115–130.
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Reyna, C. (2018). Scale creation, use, and misuse: How politics undermines measurement. In J.T. Crawford and L. Jussim (Eds.), The Politics of Social Psychology.
Stevens, S.T., Jussim, L., Anglin, S.M., Contrada, R., Welch, C.A., Labrecque, J.A., et al. (2018). Political exclusion and discrimination in social psychology: Lived experiences and solutions. In J.T. Crawford and L. Jussim (Eds.), The Politics of Social Psychology.
Stevens, S.T., Jussim, L., Anglin, S.M., & Honeycutt, N. (in press). Direct and indirect influences of political ideology on perceptions of scientific findings. To appear in B.T. Rutgens & M.J. Brandt (Eds.) Belief Systems and the Perception of Reality.
Tybur, J.M. & Navarrete, C.D. (2018). Interrupting bias in psycholocial science: Evolutionary psychology as a guide. In J.T. Crawford and L. Jussim (Eds.), The Politics of Social Psychology.
von Hippel, W. & Buss, D.M. (2018). Do ideologically driven scientific agendas impede understanding and acceptance of evolutionary principles in social psychology? In J.T. Crawford and L. Jussim (Eds.), The Politics of Social Psychology.
Winegard, B.M., Winegard, B.M., & Deaner, B.O. (2014). Misrepresentations of evolutionary psychology in sex and gender textbooks. Evolutionary Psychology, 12, 474-508.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:24:17 2018 No.11543317 So are we allowed to talk about this book here now without some kike mod deleting the thread?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:29:32 2018 No.11543338 >>11543265 Hey, don’t use that word

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:37:48 2018 No.11543366 >"The author is retarded, and here's why" >"You're just a Jew! The Thread. Why do people even bother talking to stormlards. They aren't interested in facts, nor reality.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:45:32 2018 No.11543396 >>11543366 This was a great thread and your summary is way off, schlomo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:47:01 2018 No.11543400 >>11535487 antisemite

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:47:20 2018 No.11543402 >>11535623 >People like Ezra Pound were Jewish too. Ezra Pound wasn't Jewish, bro

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:50:22 2018 No.11543410 >>11543270 >Evolutionary psychology Next time try citing a field that isn't entirely unfalsifiable conjecture

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:24:26 2018 No.11543773
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>>11543410
Evolutionary psychology is very straightforward and obvious in terms of logically explaining human behavior, including group behavior, like that of jews.

Whites should read this book.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:26:57 2018 No.11543780 >>11543366 So true

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 00:14:46 2018 No.11544204 >>11543780 Your damage control isn't going to work, too many people know about the jewish problem now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 04:27:15 2018 No.11544877 >>11541989 Yeah the greatest mind who believed in the Elder of Sion lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 06:32:58 2018 No.11545303 Bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 06:57:40 2018 No.11545380 >>11545303 i think everybody has given up trying to reason with /pol/yps

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