/phil/osophy

[Anonymous No.11529430]

Maybe Peterson is a neo-Nazi. and before you get all worked up about it, i said maybe - it's just a hypothetical, okay. Maybe he's a closet neo-nazi, maybe not. We're just doing thought experiments here...

[Anonymous No.11529433]

wow, what a good thread about literature... or philosophy...?

totally not a gossip thread about memerson

[Anonymous No.11529465]

>>11529430
Do you have absolutely anything to support that hypothesis?
If not, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.11529498]

>>11529430
>neon-nazi
Dude, the fake jewish words need to be kept on r*eddit. No one buys that shit over here where we're actually allowed to talk about jews, usually.

[Anonymous No.11529500]

calling it: mods will allow this peterson is a neonazi thread to reach the bump limit.

[Anonymous No.11529532]

Who's this guy?

[Anonymous No.11529533]

>>11529430

Then you would expect it to be trivially easy for any one of his detractors to dig up evidence for it. The fact that they haven't indicates that he isn't, and/or the people trying to tag him as such are incredibly lazy and stupid.

It would then follow, and again, we're just making assumptions and doing thought experiments, that we can probably say Jordan Peterson's detractors are morons.

[Anonymous No.11529560]

>*misreads philosophy*

[Anonymous No.11529570]

>>11529560
>muh correct interpretation
Fuck off. Peterson's right

[Anonymous No.11529582]

>>11529570
not about philosophy

also, doesn't he argue that postmodernism is bad because it compels multiplicity of interpretation?

[Anonymous No.11529628]

>>11529582
No, and you're a pseud if you don't understand his basic premise.

He argues that postmodernists were correct in pointing out that the world can be interpreted in an infinite number of ways. He often brings up the hard-AI/AI-complete problem (though he doesn't use those terms) in reference to this, since AI researchers very early on realized that object recognition is insanely difficult.

What makes human intelligence special, and by extension what makes literature special, is the fact it's completely comprehensible to us despite how limited of a description it gives about the world. The fact that I can write these words, "She laid back and let her fingers explore," and you all instantly know what I'm talking about is a goddamn miracle when you think about it.

That postmodernists don't appreciate the fact that despite this literal infinite number of ways you can interpret these words, we all converge on a single correct interpretation is mind-boggling.

[Anonymous No.11529643]

>>11529628
K what's that have to do with Peterson

[Anonymous No.11529647]

>>11529628
>No
wrong

[Anonymous No.11529649]

>>11529570
Are you implying philosophy doesn't or shouldn't have a specific meaning?

[Anonymous No.11529651]

>>11529628
>it's completely comprehensible to us despite how limited of a description it gives about the world.

wut

[Anonymous No.11529664]

>>11529651
I'm starting to realize that people really, really don't get Peterson, even though he's giving basic, babby, undergrad-tier information about the world.

Consider something even terser, the famous short short story, "For sale, baby shoes, never worn." If you were to plug that into the Google brain, it wouldn't be able to understand the context of those six words the way the human mind understands it. The fact that literally every human being can infer an entire story from those six words is incredible. You could not write a program to do this.

THAT is what Peterson is trying to say. Despite the fact there is supposedly an infinite number of ways you can interpret those six words, every single person converges on a single interpretation. How on earth is that possible?

The reason, of course, is that we all have a deep common human experience. Post-modernists pretend that this common experience doens't exist and that is why they are fucking pseuds and basically useless for the humanities.

[Anonymous No.11529666]

>>11529664
I don't know if Peterson gets himself

[Anonymous No.11529676]

>>11529664
>every single person converges on a single interpretation
false

[Anonymous No.11529754]

>>11529666
Satan's right, of course.

For Peterson, to give in to the "prestige of the written form" is, as I have just said, to give in to passion. It is passion-and I weigh my word-that Peterson analyzes and criticizes here, as a moralist and a psychologist of a very old tradition. As one knows, passion is tyrannical and enslaving: "Philological criticism is still deficient on one point: it follows the written language slavishly and neglects the living language". "The tyranny of writing," Peterson says elsewhere. That tyranny is at bottom the mastery of the body over the soul, and passion is a passivity and sickness of the soul, the moral perversion is pathological. The reciprocal effect of writing on speech is "wrong," Peterson says, "such mistakes are really pathological". The inversion of the natural relationships would thus have engendered the perverse cult of the letter-image: sin of idolatry, "superstition of the letter'" Peterson says in the Maps of Meaning, where he has difficulty in proving the existence of a "phoneme anterior to all writing." The perversion of artifice engenders monsters. Writing, like all artificial languages one would wish to fix and remove from the living history of the natural language, participates in the monstrosity. It is a deviation from nature.

[Anonymous No.11529765]

>>11529533
checkeds and reckde

[Anonymous No.11529772]

>>11529430
If Peterson is a Nazi does that make me some sort of jacked up Waffen SS Staffelführer?

[Anonymous No.11529781]

>>11529754
Drop the purple in your prose and maybe I'll read it

[Anonymous No.11529793]

>>11529628

>sharing a culture and interpreting things the same way through knowledge gained from that shared culture is mind-boggling

christ what pseud shit am I reading, was this your first acid trip or what?

[Anonymous No.11529822]

>>11529430
Intelligent people who criticize Peterson are like people who look down on Elementary school teachers for teaching basic math to children. It's not meant for you and it's good for them you goddamn assholes so shut the fuck up.

Then you have retarded people who don't like him because, like mentally challenged people who reached adulthood without learning how to count their pocket change, they resent his implication that they should, in fact, clean their goddamn filthy room. Those people should clean their penises.

[Anonymous No.11529832]

>>11529430
>maybe
>MAYBE
oh, sweatie....

[Anonymous No.11529839]

>>11529781
it's Derrida, i just replaced Saussure with Peterson

[Anonymous No.11529871]

>>11529465
hey man, it's just a thought expirience, he's not saying anything, peterson is a nazi maybe, just saying

[Anonymous No.11529890]

>>11529793
>implying culture
You're insufferable. Study after study after study shows there are things baked into the human condition. Giving up on having a child after decades of disappointment is a human universal, across cultures. Fuck off with your pseud explanations.

[Anonymous No.11529900]

>and before you get all worked up about it, i said maybe
Where? No you didn't. You can't even satirize the Memerson properly lmao

[Anonymous No.11529907]

>>11529832
>>11529430
wtf??? I hate Kermit now!!!!

[Anonymous No.11530274]

>>11529664
Someone was a collector of baby shoes but are selling their collection, thus unworn baby shoes

what interpretation did you converge on?

[Anonymous No.11530357]

>>11529430
Wendy testaburger has proven time and time again that she will do anything to pleasure her vagina. Wether it is the school football team or the janitors on break, Wendy spends her time as president on her knees or on her back taking the old in out for hours on end... or does she?

See that’s a question.

I can ask questions too.

[Anonymous No.11530385]

>>11530357
based parkposting

[Anonymous No.11530393]

>>11529664
I am growing tired of this "postmodernism means truth is relative" meme.

[Anonymous No.11530395]

>>11529676
>>11530274
You would have to be severely mentally challenged not to conclude what everyone else was thinking. We're talking 2 SDs below the average iq.

[Anonymous No.11530397]

>>11530385
It was the first thing I thought of when reading the black out text.

[Anonymous No.11530410]

>>11530395
>thinking outside the box is now an indicator of low IQ
boi

[Anonymous No.11530438]

>>11530395
Wait, so it isn't universal? It isn't an integral part of the human experience?