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11522404 No.11522404 [Reply] [Original]

I need a book on the protestant reformation. I know that's vague as shit, but I've been drifting from the church for a while now and feel I need the whole background.

>> No.11522419

>>11522404
>protestant
LMAOing at your life right now

>> No.11522427

>>11522404
It wasn’t a reformation, it was a revolt. It would have been a reformation if they had reformed the Church from within.

>> No.11522434

>>11522419
I was raised catholic if that wasn't clear from my post. Also your post reeks of insincerity. Keep in mind that this is a Christian board, anon.

>> No.11522437

On Christian Liberty - Luther

>> No.11522446
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>>11522404
Will Durant's The Reformation.

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>>11522404
Also be aware of Martin Luther's regret about his part in creating many new sects full of heresies. Of course he blames the devil for it, and not himself. Pic related is an excerpt from his Letter to Antwerp.

>> No.11522621

>>11522461
Of course the Catholics can't let a single thread go that isn't about catholicism, way to show how persecuted a minority we are in Christian circles.

>> No.11522627

On the Jews and their Lies - Martin Luther

>> No.11522645

>>11522621
OP is a Catholic asking for information about the Protestant Reformation so he can be brought back to his faith, you big dummy.

>> No.11522676

>>11522645
He's asking for a book about it, to understand Protestantism better.

>> No.11522681

>>11522676
And I gave him one, Will Durant's.

>> No.11522723

>>11522446
Don't /thread your own post you absolute asshat

>> No.11522741

>>11522723
It doesnt actually end the thread, numbnuts. You can still post. It's just the best answer has been given.

>> No.11522795

Here's some stuff I read when I took a class on it that you might find interesting. Obviously the works of Martin Luther, John Calvin, and the other big name reformers should be consulted along the way if you haven't already.

>Peasant Fires: The Drummer of Niklashausen (Richard M. Wunderli)
History of an early peasant movement, a kind of fomenting dissatisfaction that you can see roots of Protestantism in. Read this first. If you can find an early document called the Reformatio Sigismundi, it's a nice companion piece.

>A Short History of Reformation Europe: Dances Over Fire and Water (Jonathan W. Zophy)
Useful in its own way, but be warned, there's a bit of a liberal/leftist bias in it. Or at least it can be a bit heavy-handed in its interest in women's roles etc. If you're interested in the perspectives of peasants and "marginal" figures it might be for you. What I like about it is how it covers a lot of different elements of society: political, economic, social, cultural, big-picture, small-picture, etc. while being brief. It compares and contrasts a lot of different places in Europe too which is handy.

>Longman Companion to the European Reformation, 1500-1618 (Mark Greengrass)
Useful for digging deep into a topic you're interested in.

>Christian Humanism and the Reformation: Desiderius Erasmus (John C. Olin)
>Discourse on Free Will (Desiderius Erasmus) [read this before The Bondage of the Will by Luther, he was replying to Erasmus in it]
Don't know how much Erasmus you've read but he's an important figure in showing how Renaissance humanism fed into reformation ideas in its own way. The Marburg Colloquy is a good read too; it shows the main differences between Luther and Zwingli's conception of the Eucharist (Luther isn't in a very good frame of mind during it though, he comes across as at very poor at argument, which is unusual because he usually was good at proclaiming his points clearly to a fault).

>Imperial Cities and the Reformation (Bernard Moeller)
Very dry reading, but it'll help you understand why imperial cities were particularly drawn to Protestantism.

>A Reformation Debate: John Calvin & Jacopo Sadoleto (John C. Olin)
Another example of Protestant/Catholic dialogue, but from a time where both traditions are further from each other than Erasmus/Luther.

>Spiritual and Anabaptist Writers (George Williams & Angel M. Mergal)
The absolute extreme end of reformation is a ton of fun to read about, I think at least. Read about the people that even Protestants wanted drowned as heretics. Sebastian Franck is an absolute trip; he sounds about 300 years ahead of his time.

>> No.11522963

>>11522645
Not necessarily. I want to find out more and then it can go either way. Lutheranism appeals to me on some level and I have several protestant relatives, including one priest who's the most knowledgeable guy I know, having read the bible in both Greek and Hebrew. He'd be very pleased if I converted.

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>>11522963
Protestant here again, I very much admire your desire to learn before you decide, it's a very valuable gift to want to understand before you choose.

Just read Luther first like I propsed here >>11522437 Anon, then read Mere Christianity to gain a proper understanding of the different types of Christian behavior, personalities, and denominations.

The Protestant version of the Bible, The Cost of Discipleship, Rock and Sand, and of course Here I Stand which is an autobiography of Martin Luther's life and the reformation from his perspective.

Good luck on your journey Anon, whatever denomination you pick, may God deliver you.

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>>11523063
I also like to ask the people who comment here about rejecting Protestantism about any possible reasons why people might be Protestant.

In my case it's for cultural reasons considering the Spanish have persecuted people for decades, forcing Catholicism onto them and publicly torturing and killing Protestants, Jews, and Atheists, so to be a Protestant was quickly seen to be a form of resistance.